FCC issued wrong license
 

I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database, I see
that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm surprised it
was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call was
issued instead of Amateur Extra.

Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see if it
gets "fixed" in the database?

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:42:00 GMT DesignGuy wrote:

| I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
| paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database, I see
| that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm surprised it
| was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call was
| issued instead of Amateur Extra.
|
| Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see if it
| gets "fixed" in the database?

It's not likely to get fixed by itself. It could be an error at either the
FCC or the VEC. Call both.

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wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:42:00 GMT DesignGuy wrote:

| I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
| paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database, I see
| that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm surprised it
| was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call was
| issued instead of Amateur Extra.
|
| Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see if it
| gets "fixed" in the database?

It's not likely to get fixed by itself. It could be an error at either the
FCC or the VEC. Call both.

I'd call the VEC first since they are the ones who filed the
paperwork.

In the mean time, I assume they issued you a CSCE (Certificate of
Successful Completion of Examination) for all applicable elements. You
didn't mention the 5WPM code test but I assume when you said "all
exams" you meant that too.

If you didn't do the Morse part, Technician is all you will get
for now unless you pass Element 1 within 365 days of the CSCE date, or
unless the FCC rules on 05-235 to allow you to operate without it since
you passed the writtens.

As long as you have the CSCE showing successful completetion of
ALL elements for Extra, and the FCC has issued you a callsign, you can
legally operate with your Extra privileges using the Extra
"identifier", for example "KZ4ZZZ / AE" in Morse or teleprinter, and
"KZ4ZZZ Stroke Alpha Echo" on voice.

Congratulations!

73

Steve, K4YZ

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:42:00 GMT DesignGuy wrote:

| I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
| paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database, I
see
| that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm surprised
it
| was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call was
| issued instead of Amateur Extra.
|
| Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see if
it
| gets "fixed" in the database?

It's not likely to get fixed by itself. It could be an error at either
the
FCC or the VEC. Call both.


Thanks... I called the FCC and the paperwork was filed electronically. The
personal I spoke with at the FCC did mention a "modification" that she
though had to be filed after the original Tech application was submitted.
I'm not sure if this is the case, but I'm in process of contacting the VEC.

"K4YZ" wrote in message
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I'd call the VEC first since they are the ones who filed the
paperwork.

In the mean time, I assume they issued you a CSCE (Certificate of
Successful Completion of Examination) for all applicable elements. You
didn't mention the 5WPM code test but I assume when you said "all
exams" you meant that too.

If you didn't do the Morse part, Technician is all you will get
for now unless you pass Element 1 within 365 days of the CSCE date, or
unless the FCC rules on 05-235 to allow you to operate without it since
you passed the writtens.

As long as you have the CSCE showing successful completetion of
ALL elements for Extra, and the FCC has issued you a callsign, you can
legally operate with your Extra privileges using the Extra
"identifier", for example "KZ4ZZZ / AE" in Morse or teleprinter, and
"KZ4ZZZ Stroke Alpha Echo" on voice.

Yes, I passed elements 1, 2, 3 and 4 same day. Was hoping for a shorter
callsign since I'd like to do some QRP/CW work as my Morse skills progress
beyond 5wpm. Perhaps a new call will be issued with the license "upgrade",
or maybe I'll have to go the vanity call route. Remains to be seen. I knew I
could use the AE privileges with a Tech license (it was a question on the
exam) with a CSCE and proper ID... now I just need a transmitter.... heh.

Congratulations!

Many thanks :)

DesignGuy wrote:
wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:42:00 GMT DesignGuy wrote:

| I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
| paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database, I
see
| that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm surprised
it
| was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call was
| issued instead of Amateur Extra.
|
| Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see if
it
| gets "fixed" in the database?

It's not likely to get fixed by itself. It could be an error at either
the
FCC or the VEC. Call both.


Thanks... I called the FCC and the paperwork was filed electronically. The
personal I spoke with at the FCC did mention a "modification" that she
though had to be filed after the original Tech application was submitted.
I'm not sure if this is the case, but I'm in process of contacting the VEC.

I think that what may have happened is that since you're a totally new
licensee, they may have issued the Tech as the first action, then input
the
Extra as an upgrade (which FCC calls a modification). In that case,
the licenses could arrive days or even weeks apart.

Welcome to ham radio!

--

This raises a question about "new licenses" numbers. If in Design Guy's
case,
FCC first issued a Tech and then modified it to Extra, even though he
passed
all four elements at one go, the numbers may show his new license as
Tech
rather than Extra.

I wonder how many others who went straight to General or Extra have
been classified that way.

73 es GL de Jim, N2EY

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DesignGuy wrote:
wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:42:00 GMT DesignGuy wrote:

| I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
| paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database, I
see
| that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm surprised
it
| was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call was
| issued instead of Amateur Extra.
|
| Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see if
it
| gets "fixed" in the database?

It's not likely to get fixed by itself. It could be an error at either
the
FCC or the VEC. Call both.


Thanks... I called the FCC and the paperwork was filed electronically. The
personal I spoke with at the FCC did mention a "modification" that she
though had to be filed after the original Tech application was submitted.
I'm not sure if this is the case, but I'm in process of contacting the VEC.

I think that what may have happened is that since you're a totally new
licensee, they may have issued the Tech as the first action, then input
the
Extra as an upgrade (which FCC calls a modification). In that case,
the licenses could arrive days or even weeks apart.

Welcome to ham radio!

--

This raises a question about "new licenses" numbers. If in Design Guy's
case,
FCC first issued a Tech and then modified it to Extra, even though he
passed
all four elements at one go, the numbers may show his new license as
Tech
rather than Extra.

for prehaps a few days, affecting a few number here and there

Your point if you please?

I wonder how many others who went straight to General or Extra have
been classified that way.

73 es GL de Jim, N2EY

"DesignGuy" wrote in message
news:Ie0Ne.37133$084.32934@attbi_s22...
I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database, I see
that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm surprised
it
was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call was
issued instead of Amateur Extra.

Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see if it
gets "fixed" in the database?

Did you also pass the code? If not, all that they will issue is a
Technician no matter how many writtens you've passed. If you did pass the
code, you should contact the VE team that administered the test and quite
possibly the VEC as someone did not enter it correctly. You should contact
them immediately. The FCC has no way to correct the situation until the VEC
submits the proper entry.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"DesignGuy" wrote in message
news:2v5Ne.262556$_o.243963@attbi_s71...

"K4YZ" wrote in message
ups.com...

I'd call the VEC first since they are the ones who filed the
paperwork.

In the mean time, I assume they issued you a CSCE (Certificate of
Successful Completion of Examination) for all applicable elements. You
didn't mention the 5WPM code test but I assume when you said "all
exams" you meant that too.

If you didn't do the Morse part, Technician is all you will get
for now unless you pass Element 1 within 365 days of the CSCE date, or
unless the FCC rules on 05-235 to allow you to operate without it since
you passed the writtens.

As long as you have the CSCE showing successful completetion of
ALL elements for Extra, and the FCC has issued you a callsign, you can
legally operate with your Extra privileges using the Extra
"identifier", for example "KZ4ZZZ / AE" in Morse or teleprinter, and
"KZ4ZZZ Stroke Alpha Echo" on voice.

Yes, I passed elements 1, 2, 3 and 4 same day. Was hoping for a shorter
callsign since I'd like to do some QRP/CW work as my Morse skills progress
beyond 5wpm. Perhaps a new call will be issued with the license "upgrade",
or maybe I'll have to go the vanity call route. Remains to be seen. I knew
I
could use the AE privileges with a Tech license (it was a question on the
exam) with a CSCE and proper ID... now I just need a transmitter.... heh.

Congratulations!

Many thanks :)

Once they have issued the call sign, they won't change it as part of
correcting the database. You don't have to go the vanity route though.
Once the database is correct for license class, you can get a new Extra
class sequential callsign simply by submitting a request for a sequentially
issued call. However, it won't be much shorter than what you have now as
all that is available this way are the 2x2 calls beginning with A. If you
want a short call, you'll have to search for ones no longer used and submit
a vanity application.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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DesignGuy wrote:
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:42:00 GMT DesignGuy
wrote:

| I just passed all exams (up through Extra) this past weekend, and my
| paperwork was submitted to the FCC. After checking the FCC database,
I
see
| that I have been issued a Technician license and callsign. I'm
surprised
it
| was issued so quickly, but more surprised that a Tech license/call
was
| issued instead of Amateur Extra.
|
| Should I call the FCC # on the CSCE form or wait a few days and see
if
it
| gets "fixed" in the database?

It's not likely to get fixed by itself. It could be an error at either
the
FCC or the VEC. Call both.


Thanks... I called the FCC and the paperwork was filed electronically.
The
personal I spoke with at the FCC did mention a "modification" that she
though had to be filed after the original Tech application was submitted.
I'm not sure if this is the case, but I'm in process of contacting the
VEC.

I think that what may have happened is that since you're a totally new
licensee, they may have issued the Tech as the first action, then input
the
Extra as an upgrade (which FCC calls a modification). In that case,
the licenses could arrive days or even weeks apart.

Welcome to ham radio!

--

This raises a question about "new licenses" numbers. If in Design Guy's
case,
FCC first issued a Tech and then modified it to Extra, even though he
passed
all four elements at one go, the numbers may show his new license as
Tech
rather than Extra.

I wonder how many others who went straight to General or Extra have
been classified that way.

73 es GL de Jim, N2EY

It's not that common an error. I only know one person to whom that has
happened. Normally they will issue a license at the highest level earned
and issue the appropriate call sign. i.e. if you test all the way from
nothing to Extra at one session, they issue an Extra class license from the
get go.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE