SATERN = SALVATION ARMY TEAM EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK

http://www.satern.org/

What We Do
Emergency communications etc. etc.
-----------------------------------------
LAT exposé: "The Red Cross money pit" - The TRUTH at last!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/25/95628/8554

-----------------------------------------

It has always been my personal opinion that the Salvation Army is a MUCH
better organization than the Red Cross / Red Crescent . Organizations like
the Red Cross / Red Crescent have enormous overhead, including high-paid
executives and posh offices.

Ace - WH2T



"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
link.net...

"TOM" wrote in message
...
The future of the National Traffic System
http://www.eham.net/articles/12198

[snip]
For those of you who may not know, the National Traffic System (NTS)
consists of a carefully choreographed collection of section, region, and
area nets designed to relay messages throughout the US. In a sense it's
the
second "R" in ARRL. NTS has a long and honorable history and has some of
the
best operators in the world as its membership.

The recent hurricane season has raised serious doubts for me about the
role
that NTS plays in the current ham-radio environment. I did not hear a
single
health-and-welfare message during the disasters. In bygone times, NTS
would
have been buzzing with activity.
[snip]


Tom,

I hate to break your ham hating crusade but the NTS can't run any traffic,
if none is sent to it. I had the exact same complaint. I did manage to
handle a few messages, but NOTHING like I was expecting.

I have since found that the American Red Cross, for WHATEVER REASON
decided that ham radio was not good enough to use. Other than for a VHF
Telephone network between shelters that is.

Not our bad Tom. We were there, ready, willing, and able.

Dan/W4NTI

Dr.Ace wrote:
SATERN = SALVATION ARMY TEAM EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK

Yup, I listened to SATERN a good bit during the crisis.


http://www.satern.org/

What We Do
Emergency communications etc. etc.
-----------------------------------------
LAT exposé: "The Red Cross money pit" - The TRUTH at last!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/25/95628/8554

-----------------------------------------

It has always been my personal opinion that the Salvation Army is a MUCH
better organization than the Red Cross / Red Crescent.

Yup.

Organizations like
the Red Cross / Red Crescent have enormous overhead, including high-paid
executives and posh offices.

The Red Cross also had other ideas on what to do with the money donated
for the 9/11 attack victims and families.

Nice folks.

- Mike KB3EIA -

You got that right Dr. Ace. I've been a SATERN member for a while now. Did
some work up on 14.265. Great group of folks.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dr.Ace" wrote in message
...
SATERN = SALVATION ARMY TEAM EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK

http://www.satern.org/

What We Do
Emergency communications etc. etc.
-----------------------------------------
LAT exposé: "The Red Cross money pit" - The TRUTH at last!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/25/95628/8554

-----------------------------------------

It has always been my personal opinion that the Salvation Army is a
MUCH better organization than the Red Cross / Red Crescent . Organizations
like the Red Cross / Red Crescent have enormous overhead, including
high-paid executives and posh offices.

Ace - WH2T



"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
link.net...

"TOM" wrote in message
...
The future of the National Traffic System
http://www.eham.net/articles/12198

[snip]
For those of you who may not know, the National Traffic System (NTS)
consists of a carefully choreographed collection of section, region, and
area nets designed to relay messages throughout the US. In a sense it's
the
second "R" in ARRL. NTS has a long and honorable history and has some of
the
best operators in the world as its membership.

The recent hurricane season has raised serious doubts for me about the
role
that NTS plays in the current ham-radio environment. I did not hear a
single
health-and-welfare message during the disasters. In bygone times, NTS
would
have been buzzing with activity.
[snip]


Tom,

I hate to break your ham hating crusade but the NTS can't run any
traffic, if none is sent to it. I had the exact same complaint. I did
manage to handle a few messages, but NOTHING like I was expecting.

I have since found that the American Red Cross, for WHATEVER REASON
decided that ham radio was not good enough to use. Other than for a VHF
Telephone network between shelters that is.

Not our bad Tom. We were there, ready, willing, and able.

Dan/W4NTI

Dr.Ace wrote in message
...
SATERN = SALVATION ARMY TEAM EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK

http://www.satern.org/

What We Do
Emergency communications etc. etc.
-----------------------------------------
LAT exposé: "The Red Cross money pit" - The TRUTH at last!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/25/95628/8554

-----------------------------------------

It has always been my personal opinion that the Salvation Army is a
MUCH
better organization than the Red Cross / Red Crescent . Organizations like
the Red Cross / Red Crescent have enormous overhead, including high-paid
executives and posh offices.

Ace - WH2T

Sounds like an interesting group---I'll check them out. Yes... I often
heard unfavorable remarks made about the Red Cross---especially from
servicemen (including my father after the WWII) but consistent praise for
the Salvation Army.

I recall the Red Cross blood drives of 9/11---then blood thrown away because
there were no storage facilities available; some doctors wondered why all
the blood since there was no need for it. The story made the national news
for a couple of days then forgotten.

I hear good words about the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) as
providing excellent service during disaster relief; however, I don't know of
their communications needs.

If the Red Cross is 'particular' then the heck with them; better to
concentrate efforts elsewhere and make a good showing---the word will get
out.

"TOM" wrote in message
...

Dr.Ace wrote in message
...
SATERN = SALVATION ARMY TEAM EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK

http://www.satern.org/

What We Do
Emergency communications etc. etc.
-----------------------------------------
LAT exposé: "The Red Cross money pit" - The TRUTH at last!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/25/95628/8554

-----------------------------------------

It has always been my personal opinion that the Salvation Army is a
MUCH
better organization than the Red Cross / Red Crescent . Organizations
like
the Red Cross / Red Crescent have enormous overhead, including high-paid
executives and posh offices.

Ace - WH2T

Sounds like an interesting group---I'll check them out. Yes... I often
heard unfavorable remarks made about the Red Cross---especially from
servicemen (including my father after the WWII) but consistent praise for
the Salvation Army.

I recall the Red Cross blood drives of 9/11---then blood thrown away
because
there were no storage facilities available; some doctors wondered why all
the blood since there was no need for it. The story made the national
news
for a couple of days then forgotten.

I hear good words about the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) as
providing excellent service during disaster relief; however, I don't know
of
their communications needs.

If the Red Cross is 'particular' then the heck with them; better to
concentrate efforts elsewhere and make a good showing---the word will get
out.





Thats right Tom. You hit it right on the head mate.

Dan/W4NTI