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Browsing the FCC internet site the sheer number of reply comments by one Californian caught my eye.
One quote was particularly petulant --- "Based on the twenty items discussed and comment on them, this commenter would urge the Commission to ignore ARRL desires..." Perhaps, based on his tens of thousands of posts on the usernet, we should urge the Commission to ignore Leonard H. Anderson desires. The Man in the Maze QRV from Baboquivari Peak, AZ |
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:21:51 +0000, Iitoi
wrote: Browsing the FCC internet site the sheer number of reply comments by one Californian caught my eye. One quote was particularly petulant --- "Based on the twenty items discussed and comment on them, this commenter would urge the Commission to ignore ARRL desires..." Perhaps, based on his tens of thousands of posts on the usernet, we should urge the Commission to ignore Leonard H. Anderson desires. why? becuase you don't like Him? The Man in the Maze QRV from Baboquivari Peak, AZ _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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Browsing the FCC internet site the sheer number of reply comments by one Californian caught my eye.
8 in all on WT Docket 05-235. :-) But, only ONE is a Comment. All the subsequent ones are REPLIES to Comments. One quote was particularly petulant --- "Based on the twenty items discussed and comment on them, this commenter would urge the Commission to ignore ARRL desires..." Not quite verbatim, but close enough for government work. :-) Perhaps, based on his tens of thousands of posts on the usernet, we should urge the Commission to ignore Leonard H. Anderson desires. It's ALREADY been done long ago. See WT Docket 98-143 for 25 January 1999...search ECFS for surname "Robeson." BTW, it's "USENET," an acronym for 'university network' that grew out of the old ARPANET long ago...so long it was before the Internet went public access (in 1991). ARRL can do NO wrong? To speak against them is heresy? Sunnuvagun, if the English Department of a west coast university wants to "vote" for code testing...and twenty Tennessee law students can use WT Docket 05-235 for Moot Court practice, fine, PROHIBIT all they want! "ARRL is thy savior, thou shall not want in ham land..." |
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From: Dave Heil on Nov 8, 4:41 pm
His Royal Pompousness forgot Iitoi's attribute here wrote: Browsing the FCC internet site the sheer number of reply comments by one Californian caught my eye. 8 in all on WT Docket 05-235. :-) But, only ONE is a Comment. All the subsequent ones are REPLIES to Comments. One quote was particularly petulant --- "Based on the twenty items discussed and comment on them, this commenter would urge the Commission to ignore ARRL desires..." Not quite verbatim, but close enough for government work. :-) Perhaps, based on his tens of thousands of posts on the usernet, we should urge the Commission to ignore Leonard H. Anderson desires. It's ALREADY been done long ago. See WT Docket 98-143 for 25 January 1999...search ECFS for surname "Robeson." BTW, it's "USENET," an acronym for 'university network' that grew out of the old ARPANET long ago...so long it was before the Internet went public access (in 1991). It isn't from "university network", Len. Sorry, your Royal Pompousness, ARPANET connected a number of universities and defense industry locations back in the 70s and 80s. Not a great many, nowhere the size of the Internet of today, but enough to justify the ARPANET experience. The nominal user throughput in those days was 100 Baud or equal to 100 WPM (earlier times by TTY machinery, later by "dumb" electronic terminals). "High speed" then was 300 Baud or 300 WPM. :-) For someone who has been around as long as you claim, you'd think you'd get this one right. Tsk, tsk, tsk. No doubt you will pull up some "modern-day" claim that ARPANET (standing for Advanced Research Projects Agency NETwork) isn't what I say it is? :-) I'm using the OLD naming conventions, your Royal Pompousness. ARRL did NOT invent "USENET" nor was it involved in that network before 1991 and Internet going public. ARRL has NOT been a member of ARPANET. This isn't even the first time you've been corrected. Tsk. You've TRIED to correct me but all you've done is to attempt forcing the pro-code-test-advocate opinion as the ONLY "correct" one. Total PCTA Effluence, your Royal Pompousness. It looks as if you've made another of your frequent factual errors, Leonard. No, your Royal Pompousness. I was on it back then. You were NOT. I began in HF radio communications in early 1953...using no less than three dozen HF transmitters having minimum RF power outputs of 1 KW...the station operating 24/7 as a primary node of the worldwide U.S. Army communications network. You tried to say that I "lied" in describing that station and the Army network. I didn't lie. I was briefly on ARPANET in the 70s, doing defense contractor work and using the just-born USENET for that defense work purpose. In the quarter century since then a number of NAMES have changed to reflect the changing nature of human activity. ARPA became DARPA and grew in size and scope. USENET changed much more and became a mainstay of the Internet once Internet went public in 1991. Now you are busy, busy, busy with your little gardening Bobcat trying to build a mountain of "error" out of the origin of USENET molehill? Why? Neither the Internet nor USENET *is* amateur radio nor is anyone required to be "licensed via taking a morse code test" to be on them. ARRL can do NO wrong? To speak against them is heresy? Everyone should listen to you? Tsk, tsk, your Royal Pompousness. My rhetorical question had NOTHING to do with *me*, ONLY the ARRL. Just a plain, simple fact: ARRL supports the PCTA opinion of WHAT SHOULD BE IN AMATEUR RADIO. Why should they? ARRL is a MINORITY group. Their membership is only 1 in 5 licensed U.S. radio amateurs. ARRL does NOT represent 4 out of 5 licensed U.S. radio amateurs. YOU are telling US that some elite, self-defined "leader" of a hobby activity MUST Tell All How Ham Radio SHOULD BE?!? Of course you are. You are a BELIEVER in the "leadership" of the ARRL. ARRL is sacred, is untouchable. PBthpbthththththt. You know how amateur radio should be because...? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Your Royal Pompous Effluent Orifice is sore? WT Docket 05-235 is about the elimination of the code test for GETTING INTO amateur radio through FCC licensing. GETTING INTO. That's a simple concept. But, to those all wrapped up in their patriotic (invisible) bunting of ARRL "official" colors and morsemanship as the extra-super-special-skill for amateurs (as the ARRL has preached and lobbied)...you cannot see that simple concept. Your abject HATRED of certain personalities in here blinds you to what others can plainly see. Sunnuvagun, if the English Department of a west coast university wants to "vote" for code testing...and twenty Tennessee law students can use WT Docket 05-235 for Moot Court practice, fine, PROHIBIT all they want! I see. Don't listen to the ARRL; listen to an uninvolved party with an ax to grind. Brilliant! It must be "brilliant" if Joe Speroni wants to include an English teacher at a university (west coast, of all things) who states openly that she is NOT getting any amateur radio license, as "for" morse code testing as an entry exam for something she is NOT INVOLVED IN! Speroni is absolutely PCTA, an old morseman with an "axe" to grind for that singular mode. The AH0A website shows that. The Speroni "analysis" page shows that "English department" ID at the top of his icon-filled "chart." Speroni has a number of FACTUAL ERRORS in his INTERPRETATION of WT Docket 05-235 filings. I've pointed out some of them, have not exhausted that list. You WANT Speroni's pro-CW viewpoint to persist and rule, plus you want any anti-code-test viewpoint to be shut up, eliminated, thrown away by any force you can use. You SHOW that in NOT remearking about anyone else negatively but my comments. So far, your Royal Pompousness, all you've done is engage in pure, simple, factual Character Assassination of me and several other NCTAs in public. Can't call it anything else...you want to PROHIBIT discussion and dictate that all should follow ARRL in anything...not just in licensed amateur radio, but in all things. Enjoy your elitist exclusivity while it exists. It won't be so forever. If you can't get any Oriongasms now, go play with your big classic johnson. Turn it on and see if it turns you on. Sieg heil, |
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From: Dave Heil on Nov 8, 4:41 pm His Royal Pompousness forgot Iitoi's attribute here wrote: Browsing the FCC internet site the sheer number of reply comments by one Californian caught my eye. 8 in all on WT Docket 05-235. :-) But, only ONE is a Comment. All the subsequent ones are REPLIES to Comments. One quote was particularly petulant --- "Based on the twenty items discussed and comment on them, this commenter would urge the Commission to ignore ARRL desires..." Not quite verbatim, but close enough for government work. :-) Perhaps, based on his tens of thousands of posts on the usernet, we should urge the Commission to ignore Leonard H. Anderson desires. It's ALREADY been done long ago. See WT Docket 98-143 for 25 January 1999...search ECFS for surname "Robeson." BTW, it's "USENET," an acronym for 'university network' that grew out of the old ARPANET long ago...so long it was before the Internet went public access (in 1991). It isn't from "university network", Len. Sorry, your Royal Pompousness, ARPANET connected a number of universities and defense industry locations back in the 70s and 80s. Not a great many, nowhere the size of the Internet of today, but enough to justify the ARPANET experience. The nominal user throughput in those days was 100 Baud or equal to 100 WPM (earlier times by TTY machinery, later by "dumb" electronic terminals). "High speed" then was 300 Baud or 300 WPM. :-) Why are you wandering all over the place? The term "usenet" does not come from "university network". It really is as simple as that. For someone who has been around as long as you claim, you'd think you'd get this one right. Tsk, tsk, tsk. A tsking, a tasket Len has blown a gasket. No doubt you will pull up some "modern-day" claim that ARPANET (standing for Advanced Research Projects Agency NETwork) isn't what I say it is? :-) ARPANET wasn't the issue. Your incorrect defintion of the term "usenet" is the issue. I'm using the OLD naming conventions, your Royal Pompousness. Oh. The "OLD" naming conventions which others don't use. I see. ARRL did NOT invent "USENET" nor was it involved in that network before 1991 and Internet going public. ARRL has NOT been a member of ARPANET. I wrote nothing of the ARRL inventing anything. I wrote that your definition of the term "usenet" is incorrect. It turns out that the fellow you were correcting had it right after all. This isn't even the first time you've been corrected. Tsk. You've TRIED to correct me but all you've done is to attempt forcing the pro-code-test-advocate opinion as the ONLY "correct" one. Total PCTA Effluence, your Royal Pompousness. I've TRIED and succeeded in correcting your factual errors on a number of issues. My opinion on morse testing is not relevant to your error. It looks as if you've made another of your frequent factual errors, Leonard. No, your Royal Pompousness. I was on it back then. You were NOT. Whoopty-do. If you went around telling others that "usenet" came from "university network", you were wrong then too. Tsk. I began in HF radio communications in early 1953...using no less than three dozen HF transmitters having minimum RF power outputs of 1 KW...the station operating 24/7 as a primary node of the worldwide U.S. Army communications network. What has all that to do with your error in defining "usenet"? Your tale of your military communications experience of better than fifty years ago is as irrelevant to the definition of "usenet" as it is to amateur radio. You tried to say that I "lied" in describing that station and the Army network. That is simply incorrect. I didn't lie. Good for you. You've made up for it in other postings. I was briefly on ARPANET in the 70s, doing defense contractor work and using the just-born USENET for that defense work purpose. In the quarter century since then a number of NAMES have changed to reflect the changing nature of human activity. ARPA became DARPA and grew in size and scope. USENET changed much more and became a mainstay of the Internet once Internet went public in 1991. That's nice. You still made an error in stating that "usenet" came from "university network". Now you are busy, busy, busy with your little gardening Bobcat... My little gardening Bobcat? What are you smoking? ...trying to build a mountain of "error" out of the origin of USENET molehill? Quit trying to pass yourself off as an expert in areas where you are obviously not an expert. You got it wrong. You made an error. Why do you need multiple lengthy paragraphs to attempt misdirection. Accept that you goofed. Why? Neither the Internet nor USENET *is* amateur radio nor is anyone required to be "licensed via taking a morse code test" to be on them. Then why are you prattling on about it? You attempted to correct another's use of a term only to incorrectly define the term yourself? ARRL can do NO wrong? To speak against them is heresy? Everyone should listen to you? Tsk, tsk, your Royal Pompousness. My rhetorical question had NOTHING to do with *me*, ONLY the ARRL. My non-rhetorical statement had to do with you. Why should anyone listen to your views about where amateur radio should be headed? After all, you have no amateur radio experience and you have no stake in amateur radio. Just a plain, simple fact: ARRL supports the PCTA opinion of WHAT SHOULD BE IN AMATEUR RADIO. What's up with all the caps? Are you losing control of yourself? Why should they? Why shouldn't the ARRL reflect the views of its membership? ARRL is a MINORITY group. The NAACP has done pretty well for itself. The ARRL is by far, the largest amateur radio organization in the United States. No other amateur radio organization in America has anywhere near the ARRL's membership. I know it chafes you, but them's the facts. Their membership is only 1 in 5 licensed U.S. radio amateurs. Show me another amateur radio organization in the United States with a ..5 in 5 ratio. Show me one with .25 in 5. The League, as much as it bugs you, is the strongest amateur radio voice in this country. ARRL does NOT represent 4 out of 5 licensed U.S. radio amateurs. You don't represent any U.S. radio amateur. YOU are telling US that some elite, self-defined "leader" of a hobby activity MUST Tell All How Ham Radio SHOULD BE?!? I like the League's ideas much, much more than I like yours. You aren't a radio amateur. You don't represent a single radio amateur. You're simply some goofy geezer with a lot of time to devote to flooding the FCC with multiple comments and replies. You're fixated on something in which you do not participate. Of course you are. No, I've changed my mind and have decided to pick up your banner and follow you, Len....not. You are a BELIEVER in the "leadership" of the ARRL. ARRL is sacred, is untouchable. PBthpbthththththt. ....and you are an elderly goofball. You know how amateur radio should be because...? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Your Royal Pompous Effluent Orifice is sore? You grow more peculiar by the day. Tsk, tsk tsk. Poor baby. WT Docket 05-235 is about the elimination of the code test for GETTING INTO amateur radio through FCC licensing. GETTING INTO. You aren't getting into. You've told us that you aren't getting in. Then again, that has changed with the breezes. That's a simple concept. But, to those all wrapped up in their patriotic (invisible) bunting of ARRL "official" colors and morsemanship as the extra-super-special-skill for amateurs (as the ARRL has preached and lobbied)...you cannot see that simple concept. You aren't in. You aren't getting in. You've taken not a single step during your self-declared decades of "interest" in amateur radio, toward obtaining an amateur radio license. You're simply an elderly geezer with time on his hands and an amateur radio fixation. Your abject HATRED of certain personalities in here blinds you to what others can plainly see. I don't hate you, Len. You amuse me. You are certainly a personality, and not a pleasant one. Sunnuvagun, if the English Department of a west coast university wants to "vote" for code testing...and twenty Tennessee law students can use WT Docket 05-235 for Moot Court practice, fine, PROHIBIT all they want! I see. Don't listen to the ARRL; listen to an uninvolved party with an ax to grind. Brilliant! It must be "brilliant" if Joe Speroni wants to include an English teacher at a university (west coast, of all things) who states openly that she is NOT getting any amateur radio license, as "for" morse code testing as an entry exam for something she is NOT INVOLVED IN! Speroni is absolutely PCTA, an old morseman with an "axe" to grind for that singular mode. The AH0A website shows that. The Speroni "analysis" page shows that "English department" ID at the top of his icon-filled "chart." So? You've made eight or so submissions to the FCC on 05-235. How does Speroni count your submission? After all, you've stated openly that you aren't getting an into amateur radio. It is something you aren't involved in. Speroni has a number of FACTUAL ERRORS in his INTERPRETATION of WT Docket 05-235 filings. Has he? You two will find that you have something in common. I've pointed out some of them, have not exhausted that list. You WANT Speroni's pro-CW viewpoint to persist and rule, plus you want any anti-code-test viewpoint to be shut up, eliminated, thrown away by any force you can use. You SHOW that in NOT remearking about anyone else negatively but my comments. What do you SHOW, Len? So far, your Royal Pompousness, all you've done is engage in pure, simple, factual Character Assassination of me and several other NCTAs in public. Why is character assassination capitalized, Len? Your character hasn't been assassinated by me. I'd think that you'd want to be careful of what you accuse others. After all, Google has a splendid archive of the things you've written of others. You aren't a victim; you're a perpetrator. Can't call it anything else...you want to PROHIBIT discussion... Why, Leonard H. Anderson! You've just made a deliberately false statement. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor baby. ...and dictate that all should follow ARRL in anything...not just in licensed amateur radio, but in all things. You may be on to something. I think the League should diversify--maybe get into the oil business. Why, with that and the ARRL stake in gambling (as handled by the "Field Organization"), we could control a huge chunk of the action. :-) :-) Enjoy your elitist exclusivity while it exists. Oh, I shall, Leonard. I shall. I assume that you mean the exclusivity of being a licensed radio amateur, something which has eluded you. It won't be so forever. I'm going to lose my license? I'm going to forget morse code? If you can't get any Oriongasms now, go play with your big classic johnson. What is an Oriongasm? Oh, and you've made yet another factual error. The term is "big, classic Johnson". Turn it on and see if it turns you on. I have and it does. Does your tiny Johnson turn anyone on? Sieg heil, Sieg anderson. |
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![]() Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: Dave Heil on Nov 8, 4:41 pm cut electronic terminals). "High speed" then was 300 Baud or 300 WPM. :-) Why are you wandering all over the place? The term "usenet" does not come from "university network". It really is as simple as that. your evidence? and why does Len need YOUR license to wander as he chooses? it is as unsupprted as Al Gores claim to have invented the iterent For someone who has been around as long as you claim, you'd think you'd get this one right. Tsk, tsk, tsk. A tsking, a tasket Len has blown a gasket. just another of the Dave and Stevie ppersonal attack responses almost as much fun as Stevies' "lair lair pants on fire" **** cut ARRL did NOT invent "USENET" nor was it involved in that network before 1991 and Internet going public. ARRL has NOT been a member of ARPANET. I wrote nothing of the ARRL inventing anything. nor did Len state you had ,but in any case you are being deceitfull in making a stament that implies he said you made such a statement (no doubt the poor fellow will claim he can't follow a complex sentence) I wrote that your definition of the term "usenet" is incorrect. It turns out that the fellow you were correcting had it right after all. preahps that is ture but it has not been shown by you This isn't even the first time you've been corrected. Tsk. You've TRIED to correct me but all you've done is to attempt forcing the pro-code-test-advocate opinion as the ONLY "correct" one. Total PCTA Effluence, your Royal Pompousness. I've TRIED and succeeded in correcting your factual errors on a number of issues. My opinion on morse testing is not relevant to your error. well that only shows you have not been following the arguement in here Dave, the contention that along withe the ProCode test babagage comes other issues is something you choose to overlook, but instaed you continue to pile on the evidence that something more than just being proCode is wrong with the proCoder's suggesting that the position on Code testing is just an outcrop of a deeper problem cut Tsk, tsk, your Royal Pompousness. My rhetorical question had NOTHING to do with *me*, ONLY the ARRL. My non-rhetorical statement had to do with you. Why should anyone listen to your views about where amateur radio should be headed? After all, you have no amateur radio experience and you have no stake in amateur radio. and you just told another Lie dave. Len has a stake in Ham radio. everyone does. everyone on the planet ( and it is not limited to the earth assuming that life exists out there) has a stake in how the airwaves are used I comend Len on his public spirt in showing scuh interest and attetnion to this public matter The Airwaves don't belong to us as Hams Dave, they belong to the people of them and it is the duty of regulators to try and serve the PUBLIC interest not the narrow interest of Some hams like yourself You are selfish and decietful which are very human properties I have them myself as does everyone, but at Least I see them for what they are. You and Stevie trun your selfis and deeictfull positions to your own wand refuse to even adknowledge ythem as human failing that you are subject to. that is why I am in my own eyes, and other a better persons than you, I know my flaws you try to pretend your flaws are your virtues lying in very deep and dangerous way you lie to yourself Just a plain, simple fact: ARRL supports the PCTA opinion of WHAT SHOULD BE IN AMATEUR RADIO. What's up with all the caps? Are you losing control of yourself? he choose AS IS HIS RIGHT, to use them Why should they? Why shouldn't the ARRL reflect the views of its membership? becuase the ARRL claims to LEAD one cannot lead and follow at the same time, this a comon failing these days affect the ARRL, Bill Clinton and others cut represent 4 out of 5 licensed U.S. radio amateurs. You don't represent any U.S. radio amateur. YOU are telling US that some elite, self-defined "leader" of a hobby activity MUST Tell All How Ham Radio SHOULD BE?!? I like the League's ideas much, much more than I like yours. your prevledge You aren't a radio amateur. ture but so what You don't represent a single radio amateur. A lie Dave You're simply some goofy geezer with a lot of time to devote to flooding the FCC with multiple comments and replies. or a public minded fellow who takes his civic duty seriously something you should encourage You're fixated on something in which you do not participate. you fixate on thing you do not particpate (at least so you claim) and that don't affect you at all, and are of zero relavance to Ham radio and therfore this newsgroup, the subejct reffered to? My sex life cut WT Docket 05-235 is about the elimination of the code test for GETTING INTO amateur radio through FCC licensing. GETTING INTO. You aren't getting into. another lie the public takes the ride along with us len stake in this matter is merely defferent than yours or mine but not zero You've told us that you aren't getting in. Then again, that has changed with the breezes. Unlike you Dave Len has an open mind he thinks even changes his mind only a non thinking "person" like yourself would call open minded though a bad thing cut I have and it does. Does your tiny Johnson turn anyone on? focousing on His sex life too cut |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:27:59 -0500, John Kasupski
wrote: On 8 Nov 2005 16:10:45 -0800, wrote: "ARRL is thy savior, thou shall not want in ham land..." Inspired by the above line, here is the 23rd Psalm Revisited: The League is my shepherd; I shall not beep. It maketh me to operate Field Day in green pastures: it leadeth me to sign MM upon the still waters. It reneweth my license: it leadeth me in the paths of propagation for it's name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of QRM; I will fear no solar flares; for thou art with me; thy repeaters and thy no-code licenses they comfort me. Thou preparest a table for me in the middle of local hamfests: thou annointest my dummy load with oil; my logbook runneth over. Surely DX and moonbounce shall follow me all the days of my life; and I will dwell in the house of the Board for ever. John Kasupski, Tonawanda, New York Amateur Radio (KC2HMZ), SWL/Scanner Monitoring (KNY2VS) zIRC #monitor Admin ouch very painfull for some folks I am sure _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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