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My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24.
It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". McElroy states that "Hydra was operated by former hams, recruited by Camp X administrators who went looking ofr them specifically, using prewar government listings to locate the best quality Amateur Radio operators. He goes on to name some of them and goes on to quote Lynn-Philip Hodgson, author of the book "Inside Camp X": "...an amateur radio operator was an ideal candidate for handling clandestine radio activity of any description, be it interception or the actual transmitting of traffic. the radio amateur liked and understood his hobby, he was good at solving technical problems and keeping equipment running without seeking outside assistance. He was already capable of sending and receiving Morse Code efficiently, and needed only to be trained in the specialities of handling clandestine radio messages". A number of photos are included in the article. The caption of one of them should prove galling to the factually challenged Leonard Anderson. It reads, "Bill Hardcastle VE3RY (right) reads the May 1942 issue of QST at Camp X while Bob Rowan consults 'The Radio Amateur's Handbook'." Today's mail brought the January, 2006 copy of CQ. An article on the various voice modes mentions Fessenden's 1906 amplitude modulation feat. The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Happy New Year, Mr. Anderson. Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote:
An article on the various voice modes mentions Fessenden's 1906 amplitude modulation feat. Make that "feats", Dave, 'cause RF did a number of them. The one most remembered is his Christmas Eve 1906 "broadcast" of voice and music, which was received by both land stations and ships at sea. That broadcast was repeated on New Year's Eve.100 years ago tonight! But RF also had 2 way transatlantic voice communication working even earlier. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. Oh NO, Dave! You didn't! You mentioned....REALITY! The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Funny how certain members of RRAP show up in QST and CQ on a fairly frequent occassion discussing "policy" issues while others just spam RRAP. Sheeeesh. 73 and Happy New Year. Steve, K4YZ |
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Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". An article in QST states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all." Why am I not suprised? McElroy states that "Hydra was operated by former hams, recruited by Camp X administrators who went looking ofr them specifically, using prewar government listings to locate the best quality Amateur Radio operators. "Prewar government listings?" I thought Bush was the only President guilty of such profiling? "Best quality Amateur Radio operators?" The A-1 Operators was a government list? Yikes! That must have been in an ERA when the Democrats trusted "thier" government. Oh, wait, wasn't that when the Dems had full control of the government? He goes on to name some of them and goes on to quote Lynn-Philip Hodgson, author of the book "Inside Camp X": "...an amateur radio operator was an ideal candidate for handling clandestine radio activity of any description, be it interception or the actual transmitting of traffic. the radio amateur liked and understood his hobby, he was good at solving technical problems and keeping equipment running without seeking outside assistance. He was already capable of sending and receiving Morse Code efficiently, and needed only to be trained in the specialities of handling clandestine radio messages". Secret Agent Man! A number of photos are included in the article. The caption of one of them should prove galling to the factually challenged Leonard Anderson. It reads, "Bill Hardcastle VE3RY (right) reads the May 1942 issue of QST at Camp X while Bob Rowan consults 'The Radio Amateur's Handbook'." Why wouldn't an amateur be reading an amateur publication? Do you thnk QST would have included the photo where he's reading "Life?" Would an amateur centered publication be posting the names of the professional engineers associated with the project? Maybe that wouldn't be self-serving? Today's mail brought the January, 2006 copy of CQ. An article on the various voice modes mentions Fessenden's 1906 amplitude modulation feat. The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Happy New Year, Mr. Anderson. Dave K8MN Steve will do anything to get hisself into the spotlight, even forge postings on RRAP. You would have thought he would have left all that attention seeking behind when he left the orphanage, but its just a part of who he is, now. |
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K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. Oh NO, Dave! You didn't! You mentioned....REALITY! The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Funny how certain members of RRAP show up in QST and CQ on a fairly frequent occassion discussing "policy" issues while others just spam RRAP. Sheeeesh. 73 and Happy New Year. Steve, K4YZ But it's not even a little bit funny when one RRAP member forges, "Raped an old friend." Why didn't you include that in your letter to CQ Magazine? |
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On 31 Dec 2005 06:35:16 -0800, "Major Dud" wrote in
.com: snip Steve "Yellow Dog" Robeson, K4YZ Who's your lawyer, Dud? From http://www.llrx.com/features/cyberstalking.htm; "There are some ways to help stop cyberstalking: self-regulatory, ignore the stalking, and self-protection. Self-regulatory and self-protection practices can include turning off the computer, changing your email address a few times a year, or dropping out of discussion groups." ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. Oh NO, Dave! You didn't! You mentioned....REALITY! yes Stevei reality a concept you are in contactwith even as DX The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Funny how certain members of RRAP show up in QST and CQ on a fairly frequent occassion discussing "policy" issues while others just spam RRAP. maye becuase RRAP is fiarer furm less baisied We might inquire of Carl on the "Fairness" of the ARRL Sheeeesh. 73 and Happy New Year. Steve, K4YZ |
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Frank Gilliland wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 06:35:16 -0800, "Major Dud" wrote in .com: snip Steve "Yellow Dog" Robeson, K4YZ Who's your lawyer, Dud? Steve has a lawyer? That'll be news to Mark. All Mark wants is an apology and Steve's promise not to bring up a person's sexuality on RRAP. All Steve has to do is come through. Instead he's going to drag his name through the mudd on RRAP and in the Michigan courts. |
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dave just how did any of that have anything to do with your title a bad
week for leonard? Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". cut |
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Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? 1942 was, ummm, SIXTY THREE YEARS AGO! Heh, I'd say that was "antique." :-) It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". An article in QST states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all." Why am I not suprised? "Camp X" was a Canadian spy school near Ottawa. "Hydra" station was intended to keep communications with England during WW2. It ceased operation in the 1960s. It sounds terribly GLAMOROUS, donut? :-) More can be found under the Canadian Communications and Electronics Branch website (as Branch History) under: http://www.img.forces.gc.ca/commelec...ory/cont_e.htm ...and select "Chapter 5" McElroy states that "Hydra was operated by former hams, recruited by Camp X administrators who went looking ofr them specifically, using prewar government listings to locate the best quality Amateur Radio operators. "Prewar government listings?" I thought Bush was the only President guilty of such profiling? Dubya, not Herbert Walker... :-) "Best quality Amateur Radio operators?" The A-1 Operators was a government list? Yikes! That must have been in an ERA when the Democrats trusted "thier" government. Oh, wait, wasn't that when the Dems had full control of the government? It was a Canadian operation. He goes on to name some of them and goes on to quote Lynn-Philip Hodgson, author of the book "Inside Camp X": "...an amateur radio operator was an ideal candidate for handling clandestine radio activity of any description, be it interception or the actual transmitting of traffic. the radio amateur liked and understood his hobby, he was good at solving technical problems and keeping equipment running without seeking outside assistance. He was already capable of sending and receiving Morse Code efficiently, and needed only to be trained in the specialities of handling clandestine radio messages". Secret Agent Man! "Secret Agent Ham," soon to be an action-filled TV series starring Patrick Macgoohan as "X" the camp leader... :-) A number of photos are included in the article. The caption of one of them should prove galling to the factually challenged Leonard Anderson. It reads, "Bill Hardcastle VE3RY (right) reads the May 1942 issue of QST at Camp X while Bob Rowan consults 'The Radio Amateur's Handbook'." Why wouldn't an amateur be reading an amateur publication? Do you thnk QST would have included the photo where he's reading "Life?" Most everywhere else during WW2 the troops would be reading about pretty girls and movie stars and pretty girls and sports stories and about pretty girls. But, those at the not-very-famous "Camp X" near Ottawa were of the clandestine amateur persuasion 62 years ago... Besides, the big station at WAR (in MD outside of DC) was doing its high-power HF multi-circuit thing with the UK and other places back then. For heavy traffic they used RTTY even back then. Would an amateur centered publication be posting the names of the professional engineers associated with the project? Maybe that wouldn't be self-serving? Nah. Amateurs did it all and did it better...in the imaginations of other amateurs... Today's mail brought the January, 2006 copy of CQ. An article on the various voice modes mentions Fessenden's 1906 amplitude modulation feat. The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Steve will do anything to get hisself into the spotlight, even forge postings on RRAP. You would have thought he would have left all that attention seeking behind when he left the orphanage, but its just a part of who he is, now. Major Dud will probably claim some sort of "assistant" NCOIC status with the RCAF marine detachment at Camp X. :-) Geez, this is getting better than the old "reserve colonel" telling about his son over in the Persian Gulf during the 1990-1991 first Gulf War "behind the lines sending intel to Hq via CW!" :-) |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: on Sat, Dec 31 2005 7:05 am Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? 1942 was, ummm, SIXTY THREE YEARS AGO! Heh, I'd say that was "antique." :-) But you seldom get much right. To be considered an antique, something generally needs to be at least 100 years old. :-) :-) cut again what di you diatribe have to do with the title you gave it dave? a bad week for Leonard |
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From: Dave Heil on Sun, Jan 1 2006 11:42 pm
wrote: From: on Sat, Dec 31 2005 7:05 am Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? 1942 was, ummm, SIXTY THREE YEARS AGO! Heh, I'd say that was "antique." :-) But you seldom get much right. To be considered an antique, something generally needs to be at least 100 years old. :-) :-) Who the fork are YOU, Heil? Webster? Obviously you've never been to all those many east coast "antique shops." It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". An article in QST states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all." Why am I not suprised? "Camp X" was a Canadian spy school near Ottawa. That's what the article says. So, that isn't right? I was reading direct from CANADIAN history, not some rewritten blurb in an amateur magazine. "Hydra" station was intended to keep communications with England during WW2. It ceased operation in the 1960s. That's what the article says. So, that isn't right? I was reading direct from CANADIAN history, not some rewritten blurb in an amateur magazine. More can be found under the Canadian Communications and Electronics Branch website (as Branch History) under: http://www.img.forces.gc.ca/commelec...ory/cont_e.htm Thanks, Leonard. One can also read the QST article and/or the the other books it references. I'd rather go to the SOURCE for history information...such as the Communications and Electronics Branch of the Canadian military. By the way, "non-antique," the CANADIAN HISTORICAL information ALSO contains a bibliography of books on that subject. Those were compiled earlier than the QST "article." Hello, can we say "re-write" and "cribbing" by the QST article author? Secret Agent Man! "Secret Agent Ham," soon to be an action-filled TV series starring Patrick Macgoohan as "X" the camp leader... :-) There's room for the well-known profile of your likely behavior. Your actions are accurately predicted by the profile. "Profile" all you want, Dubya Junior. But, those at the not-very-famous "Camp X" near Ottawa were of the clandestine amateur persuasion 62 years ago... Most clandestine things aren't very famous. Horse maneuvers, Dubya Junior. Go talk to James Bamford. He wrote a few books about the CIA and the NSA. Go talk to the curators of Bletchley Park museum in the UK. Go talk to David Kahn, whose best-seller (on NYT non-fiction category in the 1960s) was "Codebreakers, a History of Cryptography." Better yet, go talk to someone else who can be persuaded you are a super-extra-special "superior" person. MOST clandestine things, ops, etc. are VERY famous. Besides, the big station at WAR (in MD outside of DC) was doing its high-power HF multi-circuit thing with the UK and other places back then. For heavy traffic they used RTTY even back then. The story wasn't about WAR. Oh? Yes, this was all about "glamour" in a little known Canadian Signals installation...as done by AMATEURS. Problem you league-polishers have is NOT understanding all you think you know about the REST of radio. That includes those who were ONCE in "the foreign service." COMMERCIAL communications services of the USA and Canada were active BEFORE the UK got involved in WW2. Washington Army Radio (WAR) took the nod from them and went TTY for the majority of messaging before 7 Dec 41. Would an amateur centered publication be posting the names of the professional engineers associated with the project? Maybe that wouldn't be self-serving? Nah. Amateurs did it all and did it better...in the imaginations of other amateurs... That's not what the article says and it isn't what the book referenced says. Tsk, tsk, tsk, I KNOW the style of things done in QST...and how to write for them. That's why I do NOT try to write for them. How do you come to know so much about it? Whaa, whaa, whaa, "duh, how come you know so much," whaa, whaa... Were you there? Not in/around Ottawa, only Montreal and Vancouver. :-) I DID Signals work in another part of the globe. BIG TIME work, three-dozen-plus high-power HF transmitters on 24/7. Do you need a link to see where and what of that? :-) Steve will do anything to get hisself into the spotlight, even forge postings on RRAP. You would have thought he would have left all that attention seeking behind when he left the orphanage, but its just a part of who he is, now. Major Dud will probably claim some sort of "assistant" NCOIC status with the RCAF marine detachment at Camp X. :-) It seems that you're setting yourself up as the expert on Camp X, Leonid. :-) :-) Who's "Leonid?" Are we going to have to "profile" YOU, Dubya Junior? [it's already been done...] Geez, this is getting better than the old "reserve colonel" telling about his son over in the Persian Gulf during the 1990-1991 first Gulf War "behind the lines sending intel to Hq via CW!" :-) Do you have any reference material which demonstrates that the article is anything but true, or are you simply compelled to live up to the profile of your likely behavior? "Profile" all you want, Dubya Junior. You come in out of the black with some cribbed "article" in QST about some Canadian Signals effort during WW2 when the history, written by Canadians themselves, was openly published between 1995 and 2003 and think it is NEWS? Good grief, Secret Agent Ham, you ARE dense! Now be a good little extra and go fondle your code key. That will take you back to the halcyon days of yore when Kode was King and hams were the epitome of all radio operators...long before you existed, Secret Agent Ham. Most bestest of good fortune on that one now... |
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wrote: From: Dave Heil on Sun, Jan 1 2006 11:42 pm wrote: From: on Sat, Dec 31 2005 7:05 am Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? 1942 was, ummm, SIXTY THREE YEARS AGO! Heh, I'd say that was "antique." :-) But you seldom get much right. To be considered an antique, something generally needs to be at least 100 years old. :-) :-) Who the fork are YOU, Heil? Webster? Obviously you've never been to all those many east coast "antique shops." Can someone who's not an antique know anything about antiques? It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". An article in QST states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all." Why am I not suprised? "Camp X" was a Canadian spy school near Ottawa. That's what the article says. So, that isn't right? I was reading direct from CANADIAN history, not some rewritten blurb in an amateur magazine. Did the CANADIANS glam up the role of amateur radio operators in "thier" history? "Hydra" station was intended to keep communications with England during WW2. It ceased operation in the 1960s. That's what the article says. So, that isn't right? I was reading direct from CANADIAN history, not some rewritten blurb in an amateur magazine. Did the CANADIANS play up the role of amateur radio operators in "thier" history? More can be found under the Canadian Communications and Electronics Branch website (as Branch History) under: http://www.img.forces.gc.ca/commelec...ory/cont_e.htm Thanks, Leonard. One can also read the QST article and/or the the other books it references. I'd rather go to the SOURCE for history information...such as the Communications and Electronics Branch of the Canadian military. Did the CANADIANS shut down CANADIAN amateur radio during WWII? By the way, "non-antique," the CANADIAN HISTORICAL information ALSO contains a bibliography of books on that subject. Those were compiled earlier than the QST "article." Hello, can we say "re-write" and "cribbing" by the QST article author? Only if it serves the amateur community. Secret Agent Man! "Secret Agent Ham," soon to be an action-filled TV series starring Patrick Macgoohan as "X" the camp leader... :-) There's room for the well-known profile of your likely behavior. Your actions are accurately predicted by the profile. "Profile" all you want, Dubya Junior. Dave IS on the list of A-1 Operators that the gov't used to use to know who the very best amateur operators were. But they've not needed to look at that list in many, many years. But, those at the not-very-famous "Camp X" near Ottawa were of the clandestine amateur persuasion 62 years ago... Most clandestine things aren't very famous. Horse maneuvers, Dubya Junior. Go talk to James Bamford. He wrote a few books about the CIA and the NSA. Go talk to the curators of Bletchley Park museum in the UK. Go talk to David Kahn, whose best-seller (on NYT non-fiction category in the 1960s) was "Codebreakers, a History of Cryptography." Better yet, go talk to someone else who can be persuaded you are a super-extra-special "superior" person. MOST clandestine things, ops, etc. are VERY famous. That's how Steve learned of his famous seven hostile actions; Clandestine Clancy. Besides, the big station at WAR (in MD outside of DC) was doing its high-power HF multi-circuit thing with the UK and other places back then. For heavy traffic they used RTTY even back then. The story wasn't about WAR. Oh? Yes, this was all about "glamour" in a little known Canadian Signals installation...as done by AMATEURS. AMERICAN Amateurs on CANADIAN soil. Problem you league-polishers have is NOT understanding all you think you know about the REST of radio. That includes those who were ONCE in "the foreign service." COMMERCIAL communications services of the USA and Canada were active BEFORE the UK got involved in WW2. Washington Army Radio (WAR) took the nod from them and went TTY for the majority of messaging before 7 Dec 41. An amateur Extra, by extension, is an Expert on all things radio related. Would an amateur centered publication be posting the names of the professional engineers associated with the project? Maybe that wouldn't be self-serving? Nah. Amateurs did it all and did it better...in the imaginations of other amateurs... That's not what the article says and it isn't what the book referenced says. Tsk, tsk, tsk, I KNOW the style of things done in QST...and how to write for them. That's why I do NOT try to write for them. How do you come to know so much about it? Whaa, whaa, whaa, "duh, how come you know so much," whaa, whaa... Were you there? Not in/around Ottawa, only Montreal and Vancouver. :-) I DID Signals work in another part of the globe. BIG TIME work, three-dozen-plus high-power HF transmitters on 24/7. Do you need a link to see where and what of that? :-) Was Dave there? Was Jim there? Was the author of the QST article there? Steve will do anything to get hisself into the spotlight, even forge postings on RRAP. You would have thought he would have left all that attention seeking behind when he left the orphanage, but its just a part of who he is, now. Major Dud will probably claim some sort of "assistant" NCOIC status with the RCAF marine detachment at Camp X. :-) It seems that you're setting yourself up as the expert on Camp X, Leonid. :-) :-) Who's "Leonid?" Are we going to have to "profile" YOU, Dubya Junior? [it's already been done...] Dave fits Dave's profile. Geez, this is getting better than the old "reserve colonel" telling about his son over in the Persian Gulf during the 1990-1991 first Gulf War "behind the lines sending intel to Hq via CW!" :-) Do you have any reference material which demonstrates that the article is anything but true, or are you simply compelled to live up to the profile of your likely behavior? "Profile" all you want, Dubya Junior. You come in out of the black with some cribbed "article" in QST about some Canadian Signals effort during WW2 when the history, written by Canadians themselves, was openly published between 1995 and 2003 and think it is NEWS? Good grief, Secret Agent Ham, you ARE dense! And thick. Now be a good little extra and go fondle your code key. That will take you back to the halcyon days of yore when Kode was King and hams were the epitome of all radio operators...long before you existed, Secret Agent Ham. Most bestest of good fortune on that one now... 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wrote: From: Dave Heil on Sun, Jan 1 2006 11:42 pm wrote: From: on Sat, Dec 31 2005 7:05 am Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? 1942 was, ummm, SIXTY THREE YEARS AGO! Heh, I'd say that was "antique." :-) But you seldom get much right. To be considered an antique, something generally needs to be at least 100 years old. :-) :-) Who the fork are YOU, Heil? Webster? Obviously you've never been to all those many east coast "antique shops." Can someone who's not an antique know anything about antiques? Obviously NOT! :-) No doubt Herr Robust wants anyone speaking about antiques to be federally-licensed in the ARS...the Antique Road Show, I mean... An article in QST states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all." Why am I not suprised? "Camp X" was a Canadian spy school near Ottawa. That's what the article says. So, that isn't right? I was reading direct from CANADIAN history, not some rewritten blurb in an amateur magazine. Did the CANADIANS glam up the role of amateur radio operators in "thier" history? Not at all. On the website I showed in a link, their 7-chapter history on Canadian Signals hardly mentions radio amateurs, just radio. "Hydra" station was intended to keep communications with England during WW2. It ceased operation in the 1960s. That's what the article says. So, that isn't right? I was reading direct from CANADIAN history, not some rewritten blurb in an amateur magazine. Did the CANADIANS play up the role of amateur radio operators in "thier" history? Geez, I think Herr Robust wants to tell the Canadians what they did in the past. [why not? he tells everyone else...] More can be found under the Canadian Communications and Electronics Branch website (as Branch History) under: http://www.img.forces.gc.ca/commelec...ory/cont_e.htm Thanks, Leonard. One can also read the QST article and/or the the other books it references. I'd rather go to the SOURCE for history information...such as the Communications and Electronics Branch of the Canadian military. Did the CANADIANS shut down CANADIAN amateur radio during WWII? I'm sure they did...but the ultimate authority here is Heil, not our northern neighbor. By the way, "non-antique," the CANADIAN HISTORICAL information ALSO contains a bibliography of books on that subject. Those were compiled earlier than the QST "article." Hello, can we say "re-write" and "cribbing" by the QST article author? Only if it serves the amateur community. No problem to QST. Secret Agent Man! "Secret Agent Ham," soon to be an action-filled TV series starring Patrick Macgoohan as "X" the camp leader... :-) There's room for the well-known profile of your likely behavior. Your actions are accurately predicted by the profile. "Profile" all you want, Dubya Junior. Dave IS on the list of A-1 Operators that the gov't used to use to know who the very best amateur operators were. But they've not needed to look at that list in many, many years. Sunnuvagun! But, those at the not-very-famous "Camp X" near Ottawa were of the clandestine amateur persuasion 62 years ago... Most clandestine things aren't very famous. Horse maneuvers, Dubya Junior. Go talk to James Bamford. He wrote a few books about the CIA and the NSA. Go talk to the curators of Bletchley Park museum in the UK. Go talk to David Kahn, whose best-seller (on NYT non-fiction category in the 1960s) was "Codebreakers, a History of Cryptography." Better yet, go talk to someone else who can be persuaded you are a super-extra-special "superior" person. MOST clandestine things, ops, etc. are VERY famous. That's how Steve learned of his famous seven hostile actions; Clandestine Clancy. Good ol' Tom! :-) Oh? Yes, this was all about "glamour" in a little known Canadian Signals installation...as done by AMATEURS. AMERICAN Amateurs on CANADIAN soil. Well, there ya go! An amateur Extra, by extension, is an Expert on all things radio related. Yes, that's a given in here, any week... :-( I DID Signals work in another part of the globe. BIG TIME work, three-dozen-plus high-power HF transmitters on 24/7. Do you need a link to see where and what of that? :-) Was Dave there? No. Was Jim there? Good grief, NO! Was the author of the QST article there? Not as far as I knew. The only visitors were U.S. brass and a couple of USAF types from the 16th Communications Squadron at the old Tsukishima site (they shared the island with the Army). At the new site NW of Tokyo at Kashiwa there were dozens and dozens of farmers sharing the antenna field. No occidental visitors among them, though. It seems that you're setting yourself up as the expert on Camp X, Leonid. :-) :-) Who's "Leonid?" Are we going to have to "profile" YOU, Dubya Junior? [it's already been done...] Dave fits Dave's profile. Herr Robust thinks he "gets to me" with that "profile." Doesn't. You come in out of the black with some cribbed "article" in QST about some Canadian Signals effort during WW2 when the history, written by Canadians themselves, was openly published between 1995 and 2003 and think it is NEWS? Good grief, Secret Agent Ham, you ARE dense! And thick. "Camp X" is better known in cryptographic circles for being the debriefing place of USSR crypto clerk Igor Gouzenko after Gouzenko defected (from the USSR Embassy in Ottowa) in 1945. It wasn't made news to the world until early 1946 (that I recall) but was then a minor sensation as the first in a long line of USSR defectors to the USA and Canada. Since Davie has jabbered on and on about being "in the foreign service" I thought he would have KNOWN about another Embassy person, especially a defector. Davie never mentioned that. Len, you gotta give him credit for at least trying. Brian, the Secret Agent Ham is wayyy too trying for me. I give Davie absolutely NO CREDIT for anydamnthing but trying to heckle non-morsemen. He hasn't earned a thing in HERE. Yet. |
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wrote: "Camp X" is better known in cryptographic circles for being the debriefing place of USSR crypto clerk Igor Gouzenko after Gouzenko defected (from the USSR Embassy in Ottowa) in 1945. It wasn't made news to the world until early 1946 (that I recall) but was then a minor sensation as the first in a long line of USSR defectors to the USA and Canada. Hmmm. Sounds like secret prisons and such. I wonder if those hams were any good at "debriefing" techniques? |
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wrote: wrote: "Camp X" is better known in cryptographic circles for being the debriefing place of USSR crypto clerk Igor Gouzenko after Gouzenko defected (from the USSR Embassy in Ottowa) in 1945. It wasn't made news to the world until early 1946 (that I recall) but was then a minor sensation as the first in a long line of USSR defectors to the USA and Canada. Hmmm. Sounds like secret prisons and such. I wonder if those hams were any good at "debriefing" techniques? trust me let says stevie or jim go on and on about why Morse Coded OOK CW was vital to the US ARS and freedom and safety of the planet with subject trapped and forced to listen and I assure you get the data you need form the target indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack |
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Raped an Old underage boyfriend wrote: wrote: wrote: "Camp X" is better known in cryptographic circles for being the debriefing place of USSR crypto clerk Igor Gouzenko after Gouzenko defected (from the USSR Embassy in Ottowa) in 1945. It wasn't made news to the world until early 1946 (that I recall) but was then a minor sensation as the first in a long line of USSR defectors to the USA and Canada. Hmmm. Sounds like secret prisons and such. I wonder if those hams were any good at "debriefing" techniques? trust me let says stevie or jim go on and on about why Morse Coded OOK CW was vital to the US ARS and freedom and safety of the planet with subject trapped and forced to listen and I assure you get the data you need form the target indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack Die of your AIDS, Markie.......... |
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wrote: "Camp X" is better known in cryptographic circles for being the debriefing place of USSR crypto clerk Igor Gouzenko after Gouzenko defected (from the USSR Embassy in Ottowa) in 1945. It wasn't made news to the world until early 1946 (that I recall) but was then a minor sensation as the first in a long line of USSR defectors to the USA and Canada. Hmmm. Sounds like secret prisons and such. Nah. "Camp X" was merely secluded enough and guarded well enough to ensure privacy. Defectors are kept as comfortable as possible, unlike lawbreakers. I wonder if those hams were any good at "debriefing" techniques? Dey knew de code which must be de brief. :-) bip bip |
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N0VFP wrote: Raped an Old underage boyfriend wrote: wrote: cyt indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack Die of your AIDS, Markie.......... more of YOUR handywork steve this sort of posting your fault by your own words |
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Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: N0VFP wrote: Raped an Old underage boyfriend wrote: wrote: cyt indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack Die of your AIDS, Markie.......... more of YOUR handywork steve God, are you a ****ing idiot. this sort of posting your fault by your own words Do the world a favor and kill yourself, Markie. |
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On 2 Jan 2006 16:03:16 -0800, wrote:
Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: N0VFP wrote: Raped an Old underage boyfriend wrote: wrote: cyt indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack Die of your AIDS, Markie.......... more of YOUR handywork steve God, are you a ****ing idiot. why do you say that I am simply quoting stevie back to him this sort of posting your fault by your own words Do the world a favor and kill yourself, Markie. how is that a favor to the wolrd Amusing how you think I am importaat enough tom atter to the whole world _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:03:16 -0800, wrote: Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: N0VFP wrote: Raped an Old underage boyfriend wrote: wrote: cyt indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack Die of your AIDS, Markie.......... more of YOUR handywork steve God, are you a ****ing idiot. why do you say that I am simply quoting stevie back to him Because, DUMBASS, I'm not Stevie. this sort of posting your fault by your own words Do the world a favor and kill yourself, Markie. how is that a favor to the wolrd Goddamn, you proved my point. Amusing how you think I am importaat enough tom atter to the whole world No, dumbass, We need all the clean air we can get. |
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On 2 Jan 2006 16:13:46 -0800, wrote:
wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:03:16 -0800, wrote: Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: N0VFP wrote: Raped an Old underage boyfriend wrote: wrote: cyt indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack Die of your AIDS, Markie.......... more of YOUR handywork steve God, are you a ****ing idiot. why do you say that I am simply quoting stevie back to him Because, DUMBASS, I'm not Stevie. yu are the dumbass not learning what I am talking about first you has posted that people (todd in that case) are responible for what they inspire that is you since you enjoy helping my make my point this sort of posting your fault by your own words Do the world a favor and kill yourself, Markie. how is that a favor to the wolrd Goddamn, you proved my point. what point? that you are stupid Amusing how you think I am importaat enough tom atter to the whole world No, dumbass, We need all the clean air we can get. poor dumab ass _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". An article in QST states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all." Why am I not suprised? Hmmmmmmm...lessee...An article about Amateur Radio operators in an Amateur Radio publication... Now let's try to figure out why Brain's surprised...?!?! more lies from the asshole of RRAP he said he wasn't suprised McElroy states that "Hydra was operated by former hams, recruited by Camp X administrators who went looking ofr them specifically, using prewar government listings to locate the best quality Amateur Radio operators. "Prewar government listings?" I thought Bush was the only President guilty of such profiling? Yeah. Right. Today's mail brought the January, 2006 copy of CQ. An article on the various voice modes mentions Fessenden's 1906 amplitude modulation feat. The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Happy New Year, Mr. Anderson. Dave K8MN Steve will do anything to get hisself into the spotlight, even forge postings on RRAP. You would have thought he would have left all that attention seeking behind when he left the orphanage, but its just a part of who he is, now. Ah yes...The sock puppet of the Feeble Five spouts off. Lying, as ususal, but then we'd not know how to act if he didn't. where is the lie? the only peopple I see lying here are you and Dave Daves's lie was the title the orignal aritcle had nothing to do with Len your in every line you posted to the note except this the next And as usual, nothing abut the policy issue of the letter. which is true statement thanks to Dave lying about it having anything to with Len in the first place Steve, K4YZ |
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wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:13:46 -0800, wrote: wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:03:16 -0800, wrote: Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: N0VFP wrote: Raped an Old underage boyfriend wrote: wrote: cyt indeed I would suggest Stevei reinlist for GITMO but I have far too high a respect for human rights, Indeed there is no one I woudl comdemn to such questioning even to save another terror attack Die of your AIDS, Markie.......... more of YOUR handywork steve God, are you a ****ing idiot. why do you say that I am simply quoting stevie back to him Because, DUMBASS, I'm not Stevie. yu are the dumbass not learning what I am talking about first YOU are the dumbass who doesn't even know what he is talking, make that gibbering, about. you has posted that people (todd in that case) are responible for what they inspire "You has posted?"..Damn Michigan schools are that bad, are they, Markie? that is you No, dumbass, learn to read. since you enjoy helping my make my point Your drug addicted parents helped make the point that is on top of your soft skull, Markie. You made Whinyslit's point that you are an imbecile. this sort of posting your fault by your own words Do the world a favor and kill yourself, Markie. how is that a favor to the wolrd Goddamn, you proved my point. what point? that you are stupid Markie, you are too stupid to even realize how stupid you are. Amusing how you think I am importaat enough tom atter to the whole world No, dumbass, We need all the clean air we can get. poor dumab ass ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oh, the irony..you could cut it with a knife. |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: My mail carrier delivered the January, 2006 issue of QST on December 24. Isn't that the annual "antique" issue? It carries an interesting article "Secret Agent Hams: Remembering Camp X" by Gil McElroy VE3PKD. McElroy's piece mentions us that the camp was also the location of a high-powered radio station known as "Hydra" and the article states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all". An article in QST states "Not surprisingly, hams had a central role in it all." Why am I not suprised? Hmmmmmmm...lessee...An article about Amateur Radio operators in an Amateur Radio publication... Now let's try to figure out why Brain's surprised...?!?! Exactly! But those hams weren't acting in a hammy capacity. McElroy states that "Hydra was operated by former hams, recruited by Camp X administrators who went looking ofr them specifically, using prewar government listings to locate the best quality Amateur Radio operators. "Prewar government listings?" I thought Bush was the only President guilty of such profiling? Yeah. Right. To hear the whiney left he is. Today's mail brought the January, 2006 copy of CQ. An article on the various voice modes mentions Fessenden's 1906 amplitude modulation feat. The letters section of the same issue features one sent by Steve Robeson K4YZ. Happy New Year, Mr. Anderson. Dave K8MN Steve will do anything to get hisself into the spotlight, even forge postings on RRAP. You would have thought he would have left all that attention seeking behind when he left the orphanage, but its just a part of who he is, now. Ah yes...The sock puppet of the Feeble Five spouts off. Lying, as ususal, but then we'd not know how to act if he didn't. And as usual, nothing abut the policy issue of the letter. Steve, K4YZ Steve, you are the sychophant of the amateur magazines, but the ass of RRAP. When QST and CQ see some of your RRAP posts, you'll not be seeing your smarmy letters to the editor in print any more. Best of Luck |
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N0VFP wrote: wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:13:46 -0800, wrote: wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:03:16 -0800, wrote: cut I am simply quoting stevie back to him Because, DUMBASS, I'm not Stevie. yu are the dumbass not learning what I am talking about first YOU are the dumbass who doesn't even know what he is talking, make that gibbering, about. that "eprson is the feelow in your mirror you don't know what you talking about I don't have aids so nor anyone else can get aids from me that jerk like you are saying you can is the fualt of Stevie soo as I have said the forgeries are steve handywork wether he typed them or not indeed steve himself says that other are responible for that acts they inpire, he just lies and denies it when it is his own actions under question you has posted that people (todd in that case) are responible for what they inspire "You has posted?"..Damn Michigan schools are that bad, are they, Markie? I woul not know having never attened a michigan school that is you No, dumbass, learn to read. I read fine since you enjoy helping my make my point Your drug addicted parents helped make the point that is on top of your soft skull, Markie. more of steve handiwork wether you are steve or not You made Whinyslit's point that you are an imbecile. you mean your point since of course you are Mr Slit this sort of posting your fault by your own words Do the world a favor and kill yourself, Markie. how is that a favor to the wolrd Goddamn, you proved my point. what point? that you are stupid Markie, you are too stupid to even realize how stupid you are. wrong again Amusing how you think I am importaat enough tom atter to the whole world No, dumbass, We need all the clean air we can get. poor dumab ass ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oh, the irony..you could cut it with a knife. more lies ironay can't ever be cut by a knife |
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Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: N0VFP wrote: wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:13:46 -0800, wrote: wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 16:03:16 -0800, wrote: cut I am simply quoting stevie back to him Because, DUMBASS, I'm not Stevie. yu are the dumbass not learning what I am talking about first YOU are the dumbass who doesn't even know what he is talking, make that gibbering, about. that "eprson is the feelow in your mirror BWHAHAHAHAHAHA...Try again, Markie, you complete idiot. This time in English. you don't know what you talking about Want to bet, Markie? Your posts show what a complete ass you are. I don't have aids so nor anyone else can get aids from me You DO have AIDS, Markie. that jerk like you are saying you can is the fualt of Stevie soo as I Oh, does "Stevie" have credentials as a "voodoo doctor" and has dolls that make others post about you, Markie? have said the forgeries are steve handywork wether he typed them or not Reference above your comment that you don't know what you are talking about, dumbass. indeed steve himself says that other are responible for that acts they inpire, he just lies and denies it when it is his own actions under question Just like you said you abused underage children, Markie. And then later deny it. Hypocrite. you has posted that people (todd in that case) are responible for what they inspire "You has posted?"..Damn Michigan schools are that bad, are they, Markie? I woul not know having never attened a michigan school Markie admits to being a dropout. that is you No, dumbass, learn to read. I read fine Since when? since you enjoy helping my make my point Your drug addicted parents helped make the point that is on top of your soft skull, Markie. more of steve handiwork wether you are steve or not That probably makes sense to your drug and alcohol addled brain cell, Markie, but not to the rest of the world. You made Whinyslit's point that you are an imbecile. you mean your point since of course you are Mr Slit BWHAHAHAHA...wrong again, Markie. this sort of posting your fault by your own words Do the world a favor and kill yourself, Markie. how is that a favor to the wolrd Goddamn, you proved my point. what point? that you are stupid Markie, you are too stupid to even realize how stupid you are. wrong again You proved his point, Markie. Amusing how you think I am importaat enough tom atter to the whole world No, dumbass, We need all the clean air we can get. poor dumab ass ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oh, the irony..you could cut it with a knife. more lies ironay can't ever be cut by a knife Markie "Forrest Gump" Morgan fails to understand the concept of allegory as well as irony. |
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an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Taking time out from giving his AIDS to an underaged little boy Raped an Old underaged boyfriend wrote: more lies fro steve or mr slit or whoever cut Run away, AIDS ridden Marky. I don't have aids so nor anyone else can get aids from me You DO have AIDS, Markie. more lies Not according to the CDC, Markie. |
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