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John Smith I wrote:
wrote: John Smith I wrote: wrote: ... Happy New Year! N2EY And, HAPPY NEW YEAR! to you, sir. Don't get me wrong. You do us a service by posting these figures. Anyone can access www.ah0a.org or www.hamdata.com and get similar figures. Hmmm. You may, indeed, have more faith in the FCC figures than I do. However, I do not dispute the figures. Only wonder about them ... Don't DARE even wonder about them! If Jimmie posted them they are sacrosanct, without error! Challenge him and you may wind up being "asked why" you asked seven years from now! And, to boot, having your "motivation" challenged! :-) LA |
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wrote: ... However, if you take into account all who are looking for work AND those drawing unemployment, that figure becomes closer to 1 in 5. I am highly suspicious that those amateur statistics may be manipulated in much the same way--although I have no figures here to the contrary of what is listed or even why such manipulations would be done ... I just have a naturally suspicious nature ... been burnt by my gov't one to many times. Regards, JS I am familiar with the saying "figures don't lie,but liers can figure.And I can believe what you say about the unemployment figures being suspicious. The pols certainly have plenty to gain by keeping those figures low. But what would be the point of skewing the amateur statistics. I don't understand what the payoff would be to manipulate them on purpose. I admit when talking about numbers and stats I tend to have bouts of dumb attacks. 73 KC9IRR |
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I am familiar with the saying "figures don't lie,but liers can figure.And I can believe what you say about the unemployment figures being suspicious. The pols certainly have plenty to gain by keeping those figures low. But what would be the point of skewing the amateur statistics. I don't understand what the payoff would be to manipulate them on purpose. I admit when talking about numbers and stats I tend to have bouts of dumb attacks. 73 KC9IRR Sorry about that. Didn't mean for my paranoia to be catching ... I am just looking about for means to double check these figures. Supposed to work that way, I think, we should be looking over the gov'ts shoulder--just to keep 'em honest, mind you! The reason why they would skew figures? I really can't point a finger at anything. Like I say, I remember when YOU COULD trust your gov't, times have changed ... Warmest regards, JS |
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Date: Tues, Jan 2 2007 6:15 am Email: JohnFrom: John Smith I on Tues, Jan 2 2007 6:15 am sapper wrote: I am familiar with the saying "figures don't lie,but liers can figure.And I can believe what you say about the unemployment figures being suspicious. The pols certainly have plenty to gain by keeping those figures low. But what would be the point of skewing the amateur statistics. I don't understand what the payoff would be to manipulate them on purpose. I admit when talking about numbers and stats I tend to have bouts of dumb attacks. 73 KC9IRR Sorry about that. Didn't mean for my paranoia to be catching ... Double-checking the government isn't "paranoia." It's just a means for concerned citizens to be alert and aware. Most citizens don't give a damn as long as they can gripe and moan about "the government" doing nasty; few of those ever try to DO anything to make it "good." I am just looking about for means to double check these figures. Supposed to work that way, I think, we should be looking over the gov'ts shoulder--just to keep 'em honest, mind you! Anyone can freely access the FCC amateur radio databases over the Internet. There are two flavors: Weekly and Daily. The weekly Zip files are found at: http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/data/complete/l-amat.zip Note: If it were capitalized, the file would be "L-AMAT.ZIP" Beware on SIZE. In checking today (2 Jan 07), the weekly file for 31 Dec 06 was 80.1 MB in size! The weekly Applications file for 1 Jan 07 was 87.7 MB. If you have only dial-up service it will take hours at 56K rate. One needs DSL or faster to save time. The records fields are explained by the FCC for delimiters and content and abbreviations. To make a searchable text file suitable for sorting is a fairly easy programming task even for beginning computer programmers. The reason why they would skew figures? I really can't point a finger at anything. Not a problem for me. :-) Case in point for amateur radio is Joseph Speroni, AH0A, an obvious pro-code proponent. Speroni boosts the use of "CW" on his website www.ah0a.org and allows free download of a code cognition training program, "Morse Academy." Speroni's "statistics" have always been slanted to showing code testing in the best possible light and downgrading the no-code-test class. That happened on the release of NPRM 98-143 regarding amateur radio restructuring. A search of FCC Petitions and Comments for same will show that Speroni has made several Petitions and many comments to retain the code test, all of the Petitions eventually rejected by the FCC in following Reports and Orders. At this point, be aware that Miccolis will be champing at the bit in regards to the Speroni description above. He will - undoubtedly - be writing "that is plain and simply wrong" even though the observations I gave are quite obvious to any reader. A more honest set of statistics is provided by www.hamdata.com which apparently has no preconceived bias or mode favoritism. Maybe. Like I say, I remember when YOU COULD trust your gov't, times have changed ... Ahhhh...in seeing all kinds of "statistics" put out by everyone from non-government individuals to market companies over the last 50 years, I'll put the onus on not trusting the non-government statistics. One of the more blatant stats compilers, Neilsen (on TV viewership), is questionable based on their very low sampling rate. However, those figures (bought and paid for by broadcasters) don't seem to be questioned in regards to new programs or cancellations of programs. They don't have larger sample sizes for more accurate figures because that increases their cost and that reduces their profit margin. Neilsen and their contemporaries are selling a PRODUCT (the "statistics") and want to maximize ROI. Those TV "stats" companies have managed to convince buyers (and the general public) into believing they are absolutely "honest" and "accurate." AS IF... :-) Insofar as amateur radio data, the FCC ULS is pretty complete and its not that hard to search individuals' data. The only problem is the massive file size of the single databases. Prior to the ULS the FCC had smaller, regional databases which could, with lots of time on-line, download at 2.4K rates. Note: There are weekly and daily and quarterly data- bases on over two dozen other radio services and special radio service groups also available for free (if one has high-rate connections). Informationally yours, LA |
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"John Smith I" wrote in message ... [snip] But, what I am looking for is "someone" else keeping, or claiming figures/records, not gov't, not pro-coders, not anti-coders ... These are the only people even interested in the data. The only entity that has the original records is the government. Everyone can download the raw data. Thus anyone who wants to can cross check the information presented. I've no issue with anyone's presentation so long as they clearly define what was included and excluded and why. Dee, N8UZE |
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146 From: John Smith I - view profile Date: Tues, Jan 2 2007 6:15 am Email: JohnFrom: John Smith I on Tues, Jan 2 2007 6:15 am The reason why they would skew figures? I really can't point a finger at anything. Not a problem for me. :-) Case in point for amateur radio is Joseph Speroni, AH0A, an obvious pro-code proponent. Speroni boosts the use of "CW" on his website www.ah0a.org and allows free download of a code cognition training program, "Morse Academy." Nothing wrong with that. Speroni's "statistics" have always been slanted to showing code testing in the best possible light and downgrading the no-code-test class. How? Exactly how can the number of licenses be "slanted" to show any testing in a good or bad light? That happened on the release of NPRM 98-143 regarding amateur radio restructuring. A search of FCC Petitions and Comments for same will show that Speroni has made several Petitions and many comments to retain the code test, all of the Petitions eventually rejected by the FCC in following Reports and Orders. Does posting license numbers somehow bar the person posting them from his Constitutional right of free speech? It seems to me that what you are saying, Len, is just a version of the old ad-hominem fallacy. What you are saying is that a pro-code person's numbers cannot be accurate, even though you have absolutely no evidence that they're not 100% accurate. A more honest set of statistics is provided by www.hamdata.com which apparently has no preconceived bias or mode favoritism. Maybe. Exactly how can the number of licenses be "slanted" to show any testing in a good or bad light? The hamdata.com numbers are derived from the same FCC database as the AH0A numbers and the ones I post. The big difference is that the hamdata.com numbers include current unexpired licenses *and* licenses that are expired but still in the 2 year grace period. They also include club, military and other station-only licenses. The numbers I post do not include expired licenses that are in the grace period, nor club, military and other station-only numbers. This is done so that the numbers indicate how many currently-licensed-by-FCC amateurs are out there - just as is explained in the postings I make with the numbers. The AH0A numbers are derived by methods explained on the website. www.ah0a.org All three sets of numbers are equally accurate *IF* you know and keep in mind what they include and exclude. Insofar as amateur radio data, the FCC ULS is pretty complete and its not that hard to search individuals' data. The only problem is the massive file size of the single databases. Prior to the ULS the FCC had smaller, regional databases which could, with lots of time on-line, download at 2.4K rates. Don't you have a connection faster than dialup, Len? Even I don't use dialup anymore. |
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wrote: Yanno Len, there is much in what you posted here, give me a bit to digest it ... But, what I am looking for is "someone" else keeping, or claiming figures/records, not gov't, not pro-coders, not anti-coders ... But, but, but...we're still morally obligated to that good old Latin phrase: Quis custodiet, ipsos custodes. (more or less, been a lonnnng time since my Latin classes). Translated to English: "Who watches the watchers?" Not to worry...ALL pro-coders are implicitly 'honest.' It is those nasty, evil NCTAs who are the trouble-makers! :-) [according to "informed sources"] LA |
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Dee Flint wrote:
"John Smith I" wrote in message ... [snip] But, what I am looking for is "someone" else keeping, or claiming figures/records, not gov't, not pro-coders, not anti-coders ... These are the only people even interested in the data. The only entity that has the original records is the government. Everyone can download the raw data. Thus anyone who wants to can cross check the information presented. I've no issue with anyone's presentation so long as they clearly define what was included and excluded and why. Dee, N8UZE So, you say, in effect is, "We are GOD (meaning the "good 'ole boys"), look no further!" See Dee, that is what I am pointing out to you, those people who have taken you "ear as hostage" can't be trusted. Naaa. The real world is hardly ever the way people would present it to 'ya. But then, I warned 'ya, I believe in conspiracies--and for good reason!, I construct some of my own ... but I DON'T believe 'em, don't believe others--if you do anything, construct your own, or are you? Warmest regards, JS |
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... I have a bad habit of leaving out words, darn it! When I said, "So, you say, in effect is, "We are GOD (meaning the "good 'ole boys"), look no further!" I should have stuck, "what " in between "So, " and "you"--but you already knew that ... Regards, JS |
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"John Smith I" wrote in message ... Dee Flint wrote: "John Smith I" wrote in message ... [snip] But, what I am looking for is "someone" else keeping, or claiming figures/records, not gov't, not pro-coders, not anti-coders ... These are the only people even interested in the data. The only entity that has the original records is the government. Everyone can download the raw data. Thus anyone who wants to can cross check the information presented. I've no issue with anyone's presentation so long as they clearly define what was included and excluded and why. Dee, N8UZE So, you say, in effect is, "We are GOD (meaning the "good 'ole boys"), look no further!" No that is not what I said. I said anyone can cross check the data on their own. None of us has to settle for someone else's interpretation. Dee, N8UZE |
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wrote: ... What do you wonder about? They are simply the number of licenses in the FCC database. ... Well, let me give you an example which I am familiar with: Take the unemployment figures. Here in california, in past decades (pre 1975?), the numbers of unemployed were based on those who were looking for work, if you registered as being such--you were counted on the unemployment roles. Today it is much different. Today, the unemployment roles ONLY list those who are DRAWING unemployment. Somehow, these figures are even manipulated to keep the unemployment rate hovering at, or around, 5%, or 1 in 20. However, if you take into account all who are looking for work AND those drawing unemployment, that figure becomes closer to 1 in 5. I came into knowledge of these figures when I was creating software utilities to monitor these statistics. The avg. guy in the general public just sees the 5% figure on the news and thinks it is real ... Of course - what they do is to carefully define what "unemployed" means so that the numbers aren't too worrisome. Sounds to me like what is done in CA is to eliminate those who have no job and have exhausted their unemployment benefits, those who have no job and have given up looking, those who are "underemployed" (say, working part time because it's all they can find right now) etc. There's nothing wrong with defining "unemployed" a certain way *IF* the definition is clearly stated so that we know who is included and who isn't. I am highly suspicious that those amateur statistics may be manipulated in much the same way--although I have no figures here to the contrary of what is listed or even why such manipulations would be done ... I just have a naturally suspicious nature ... been burnt by my gov't one to many times. FCC amateur license figures may be checked by anyone who bothers to download the database and go through it. I don't see any way for govt. to manipulate those license figures. The database contains all current licenses and all licenses in the 2 year grace period. --- It's clear why someone would want to report a low unemployment rate - makes the economy, and the current administration, look good. It's also clear why someone would want to report a high unemployment rate - makes the economy, and the current administration, look bad. But why would someone want to manipulate amateur radio license numbers? Overstating the numbers would make amateur radio look bigger than it is, while understating them would make amateur radio look smaller than it is. Who would benefit? Right now there are about 655,000 current unexpired FCC-issued licenses held by individuals. Do you think that number is high or low? |
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wrote: ... Len: Ever see the movie "Die Hard?" Yes, good action film... Too bad they didn't hear about N2EY, from his performance here, he would have been a much better actor for that role ... NO WAY! Miccolis could NEVER equal the performance of Alan Rickman as "Hans Gruber!" Well, maybe Heil could if he had lost many pounds... John, I'm taking you off the list of guest hosts on Ebert & Roeper. :-( Film at eleven... LA |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:22:20 -0800, John Smith I
wrote: Dee Flint wrote: "John Smith I" wrote in message ... [snip] But, what I am looking for is "someone" else keeping, or claiming figures/records, not gov't, not pro-coders, not anti-coders ... These are the only people even interested in the data. The only entity that has the original records is the government. Everyone can download the raw data. Thus anyone who wants to can cross check the information presented. I've no issue with anyone's presentation so long as they clearly define what was included and excluded and why. Dee, N8UZE So, you say, in effect is, "We are GOD (meaning the "good 'ole boys"), look no further!" No, what she's saying, in effect, is that the Major League Baseball Players' Association (for example) doesn't bother keeping track of the license data because they couldn't possibly care less. The FCC and we hams are the only people who are interested in the data at all. :-) John Kasupski, KC2HMZ |
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John Smith I wrote: wrote: ... John, I'm taking you off the list of guest hosts on Ebert & Roeper. :-( Film at eleven... LA Len: :( OK, make that phlegm at eleven... Koff, koff, wink LA |
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Jeff: now that's funnyL.O.L. And I'll second that!!!!
Just one of those pesky old soon to be New Bee. I wonder what my new number will be/?????? Jimmie the 52" year old New Bee "Jeffrey Herman" wrote in message ... In article , we do which is why we want to end the dummbing by ending the mode welfare that exists in it And with that, I propose a mandatory test for internet privileges. No 73 for you, Jeff KH6O -- *Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard, Dept. of Homeland Security* *Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System* |
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These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of January 15, 2007: Novice - 23,423 (3.6%) [decrease of 25,906] Technician - 290,646 (44.4%) [increase of 85,252] Technician Plus - 32,321 (4.9%) [decrease of 96,539] General - 130,825 (20.0%) [increase of 18,148] Advanced - 69,651 (10.6%) [decrease of 30,131] Extra - 108,219 (16.5%) [increase of 29,469] (percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding) Total Tech/TechPlus - 322,967 (49.3%) [decrease of 11,287] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 308,695 (47.1%) [increase of 17,486] Total all classes - 655,085 (decrease of 19,707) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. By May of 2010, the number of Technician Plus licenses will drop to zero, because all of them will have been renewed as Technician or allowed to expire. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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These are the numbers of current, unexpired FCC-issued
amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of February 1, 2007: Novice - 23,298 (3.6%) [decrease of 26,031] Technician - 291,992 (44.5%) [increase of 86,598] Technician Plus - 31,728 (4.8%) [decrease of 97,132] General - 130,671 (19.9%) [increase of 17,994] Advanced - 69,441 (10.6%) [decrease of 30,341] Extra - 108,389 (16.5%) [increase of 29,639] (percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding) Total Tech/TechPlus - 323,720 (49.4%) [decrease of 10,534] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 308,501 (47.1%) [increase of 17,292] Total all classes - 655,519 (decrease of 19,273) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. By May of 2010, the number of Technician Plus licenses should drop to zero, because all of them will have been renewed as Technician or allowed to expire. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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These are the numbers of current,
unexpired FCC-issued amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of February 14, 2007: Novice - 23,020 (3.5%) [decrease of 26,309] Technician - 293,023 (44.7%) [increase of 87,629] Technician Plus - 31,193 (4.8%) [decrease of 97,667] General - 130,322 (19.9%) [increase of 17,645] Advanced - 69,183 (10.6%) [decrease of 30,599] Extra - 108,263 (16.5%) [increase of 29,513] (percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding) Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,216 (49.5%) [decrease of 10,038] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 307,768 (47.0%) [increase of 16,559] Total all classes - 655,074 (decrease of 19,718) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. By May of 2010, the number of Technician Plus licenses should drop to zero, because all of them will have been renewed as Technician or allowed to expire. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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This is an extra listing of the ARS license numbers,
in preparation for the rules changes of Feb 23, 2007. These are the numbers of current, unexpired FCC-issued amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice- 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of February 18, 2007: Novice - 22,995 (3.5%) [decrease of 26,334] Technician - 293,233 (44.8%) [increase of 87,839]Technician Plus - 31,092 (4.7%) [decrease of 97,768] General - 130,303 (19.9%) [increase of 17,626] Advanced - 69,150 (10.6%) [decrease of 30,632] Extra - 108,263 (16.5%) [increase of 29,513] (percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding) Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,325 (49.5%) [decrease of 9,929] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 307,716 (47.0%) [increase of 16,507] Total all classes - 655,036 (decrease of 19,756) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice,Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. By May of 2010, the number of Technician Plus licenses should drop to zero, because all of them will have been renewed asTechnicianor allowed to expire. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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This is an extra listing of the ARS license numbers,
in preparation for the rules changes of Feb 23, 2007. These are the numbers of current, unexpired FCC-issued amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice- 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of February 20, 2007: Novice - 22,893 (3.5%) [decrease of 26,436] Technician - 293,177 (44.8%) [increase of 87,783] Technician Plus - 30,881 (4.7%) [decrease of 97,979] General - 130,092 (19.9%) [increase of 17,415] Advanced - 69,040 (10.6%) [decrease of 30,742] Extra - 108,205 (16.5%) [increase of 29,455] (percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding) Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,058 (49.5%) [decrease of 10,196] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 307,337 (47.0%) [increase of 16,128] Total all classes - 654,288 (decrease of 20,504) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. By May of 2010, the number of Technician Plus licenses should drop to zero, because all of them will have been renewed as Technician or allowed to expire. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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This is an extra listing of the ARS license numbers,
in preparation for the rules changes of Feb 23, 2007. These numbers are the last ones before the FCC rules change dropping all Morse Code testing went into effect. These are the number of current, unexpired FCC-issued amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice- 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of February 22, 2007: Novice - 22,896 (3.5%) [decrease of 26,433] Technician - 293,508 (44.8%) [increase of 88,114] Technician Plus - 30,818 (4.7%) [decrease of 98,042] General - 130,138 (19.9%) [increase of 17,461] Advanced - 69,050 (10.5%) [decrease of 30,732]Extra - 108,270 (16.5%) [increase of 29,520] (percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding) Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,326 (49.5%) [decrease of 9,928] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 307,458 (47.0%) [increase of 16,249] Total all classes - 654,680 (decrease of 20,112) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. By May of 2010, the number of Technician Plus licenses should drop to zero, because all of them will have been renewed as Technician or allowed to expire. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
ARS License Numbers March 9 2007
These are the number of current,
unexpired FCC-issued amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains. Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding. These totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period, nor do they include club, military and other station-only licenses. Effective April 15, 2000, FCC no longer issued new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced class licenses, so the numbers of those license classes have declined steadily since then. Also since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. On February 23, 2007, the last Morse Code test element, the 5 wpm receiving test, was eliminated as a requirement. The ARS License Numbers: As of May 14, 2000: Novice- 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of February 22, 2007: Novice - 22,896 (3.5%) Technician - 293,508 (44.8%) Technician Plus - 30,818 (4.7%) General - 130,138 (19.9%) Advanced - 69,050 (10.5%) Extra - 108,270 (16.5%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,326 (49.5%) Total all classes - 654,680 As of March 9, 2007: Novice - 22,725 (3.5%) Technician - 291,312 (44.5%) Technician Plus - 30,243 (4.6%) General - 132,863 (20.3%) Advanced - 68,837 (10.5%) Extra - 108,789 (16.6%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 321,555 (49.1%) Total all classes - 654,769 Changes: From May 14, 2000, to February 22, 2007: Novice - decrease of 26,433 Technician - increase of 88,114 Technician Plus - decrease of 98,042 General - increase of 17,461 Advanced - decrease of 30,732 Extra - increase of 29,520 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 9,928 Total all classes - decrease of 20,112 From May 14, 2000, to March 9, 2007: Novice - decrease of 26,604 Technician - increase of 85,918 Technician Plus - decrease of 98,617 General - increase of 20,816 Advanced - decrease of 30,945 Extra - increase of 30,039 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 12,699 Total all classes - decrease of 20,023 From February 22, 2007, to March 9, 2007: Novice - decrease of 171 Technician - decrease of 2,196 Technician Plus - decrease of 575 General - increase of 2,725 Advanced - decrease of 213 Extra - increase of 519 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 2,771 Total all classes - increase of 89 73 de Jim, N2EY |
ARS License Numbers March 22 2007
These are the number of current,
unexpired FCC-issued amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains. Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding. These totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period, nor do they include club, military and other station-only licenses. Effective April 15, 2000, FCC no longer issued new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced class licenses, so the numbers of those license classes have declined steadily since then. Also since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. On February 23, 2007, the last Morse Code test element, the 5 wpm receiving test, was eliminated as a requirement. The ARS License Numbers: As of May 14, 2000: Novice- 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of February 22, 2007: Novice - 22,896 (3.5%) Technician - 293,508 (44.8%) Technician Plus - 30,818 (4.7%) General - 130,138 (19.9%) Advanced - 69,050 (10.5%) Extra - 108,270 (16.5%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,326 (49.5%) Total all classes - 654,680 As of March 1, 2007: Novice - 22,841 (3.5%) Technician - 293,031 (44.7%) Technician Plus - 30,566 (4.7%) General - 130,969 (20.0%) Advanced - 68,977 (10.5%) Extra - 108,462 (16.6%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 323,597 (49.4%) Total all classes - 654,846 As of March 14, 2007: Novice - 22,665 (3.5%) Technician - 290,131 (44.3%) Technician Plus - 30,069 (4.6%) General - 134,124 (20.5%) Advanced - 68,752 (10.5%) Extra - 109,075 (16.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,200 (48.9%) Total all classes - 654,816 As of March 22, 2007: Novice - 22,565 (3.4%) Technician - 289,520 (44.2%) Technician Plus - 29,722 (4.5%) General - 135,235 (20.7%) Advanced - 68,604 (10.5%) Extra - 109,230 (16.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,242 (48.7%) Total all classes - 654,876 Changes: From May 14, 2000, to February 22, 2007: Novice - decrease of 26,433 Technician - increase of 88,114 Technician Plus - decrease of 98,042 General - increase of 17,461 Advanced - decrease of 30,732 Extra - increase of 29,520 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 9,928 Total all classes - decrease of 20,112 From May 14, 2000, to March 1, 2007: Novice - decrease of 26,488 Technician - increase of 87,637 Technician Plus - decrease of 98,294 General - increase of 18,292 Advanced - decrease of 30,805 Extra - increase of 29,712 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 10,657 Total all classes - decrease of 19,946 From May 14, 2000, to March 14, 2007: Novice - decrease of 26,664 Technician - increase of 84,737 Technician Plus - decrease of 98,761 General - increase of 21,147 Advanced - decrease of 31,030 Extra - increase of 30,325 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 14,054 Total all classes - decrease of 19,976 From May 14, 2000, to March 22, 2007: Novice - decrease of 26,764 Technician - increase of 84,126 Technician Plus - decrease of 99,138 General - increase of 22,558 Advanced - decrease of 31,178 Extra - increase of 30,480 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 15,012 Total all classes - decrease of 19,916 From February 22, 2007, to March 1, 2007: Novice - decrease of 55 Technician - decrease of 477 Technician Plus - decrease of 252 General - increase of 831 Advanced - decrease of 73 Extra - increase of 192 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 729 Total all classes - increase of 166 From February 22, 2007, to March 14, 2007: Novice - decrease of 231 Technician - decrease of 3,377 Technician Plus - decrease of 749 General - increase of 3,986 Advanced - decrease of 298 Extra - increase of 805 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 4,126 Total all classes - increase of 136 From February 22, 2007, to March 22, 2007: Novice - decrease of 331 Technician - decrease of 3,988 Technician Plus - decrease of 1,096 General - increase of 5,097 Advanced - decrease of 446 Extra - increase of 960 Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 5,084 Total all classes - increase of 196 73 de Jim, N2EY |
ARS License Numbers March 22 2007
wrote:
Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 5,084 Total all classes - increase of 196 It will be most interesting to see the final tally for March in another week. Thusfar, all that has appeared to happen is a huge number of upgrades from Tech to higher license classes. I'm still waiting for the "flood" of technically-savvy people who would 'get licensed but can't/don't want to/(insert excuse here) pass the torturous/nasty/evil/oppressive/(insert adjective here) code examination promised to us by the No-Code Agenda. 73 kh6hz |
ARS License Numbers March 22 2007
On Mar 24, 12:15?pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote: Total Tech/TechPlus - decrease of 5,084 Total all classes - increase of 196 It will be most interesting to see the final tally for March in another week. My plan is to post the totals once per month, on or about the 22nd. Those posts, like this one, will include totals for the first, 14th and 22nd of each month (or thereabouts). Thusfar, all that has appeared to happen is a huge number of upgrades from Tech to higher license classes. I disagree! The total number of US hams had been slowly declining for a couple of years before the rules change. Since the rules change, the decline has stopped and we have a growth rate of about 1/3 of one percent per year. Of course that's based on one month of data. Whether the trend will continue is unknown. Extrapolating one month's results may not be valid at all. When the rules changed in 2000, we had a couple years of growth - and then the numbers peaked about 2003. When the "price" of something declines, there is usually a surge of "sales", which may or may not be sustained. I'm still waiting for the "flood" of technically-savvy people who would 'get licensed but can't/don't want to/(insert excuse here) "don't have time" pass the torturous/nasty/evil/oppressive/(insert adjective here) code examination promised to us by the No-Code Agenda. Don't hold your breath. Consider our resident "retired from regular hours radio-electronics PROFESSIONAL" who finally got his license out of the box. Do you think he'll be homebrewing any radios for his amateur station? Writing any technical articles for amateur radio publications or websites? Using any new modes or methods? And hey, Mike - *you* are part of that NoCodeTest agenda, too! I read your 1998 Comments. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
ARS License Numbers March 22 2007
wrote:
The total number of US hams had been slowly declining for a couple of years before the rules change. Since the rules change, the decline has stopped and we have a growth rate of about 1/3 of one percent per year. Thru the end of February, we saw a decline of 32,383 hams (687,860, 04/03 to 655,477 02/07) in 3.83 years. That's a decline of 8455 hams/year on average, or 704/mo for the past 46 months. During that time period, we also saw a few 'statistical outliers' where the number of licensed hams temporarily increased for 1 or more months (for example, Nov 03, Aug 04, Sept 05) but then the downward trend continued. A final March tally of 1/3rd of 1% would be consistant with prior blips. 687,860 Of course that's based on one month of data. Whether the trend will continue is unknown. Extrapolating one month's results may not be valid at all. There's an old saying I teach my statistics students: One observation does not equal a trend. However, I think my 0-1% decline prediction will hold true in the end. When the "price" of something declines, there is usually a surge of "sales", which may or may not be sustained. Like I've always said, the numbers game is a losing proposition for amateur radio. It is in our interest to focus on quality over quantity. Do you think he'll be homebrewing any radios for his amateur station? Writing any technical articles for amateur radio publications or websites? Using any new modes or methods? I've been listening regularly for "CQ de AF6AY" on 20m CW to no avail :( And hey, Mike - *you* are part of that NoCodeTest agenda, too! I read your 1998 Comments. No, I got kicked out when Carl Stevenson had my No-Code International membership revolked because he didn't like me and my postings to RRAP. Now I'm a No-Code Gypsy, wandering around without a home. 73 kh6hz |
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