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Joe Bento May 4th 09 10:23 PM

"All American Four" Guitar Amp - "aa4.JPG" yEnc (1/1)
 
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Jeffrey D Angus May 5th 09 11:01 PM

"All American Four" Guitar Amp - "aa4.JPG" yEnc (1/1)
 
Buck Frobisher wrote:
Hi, Joe.

There are not so many people that can get the binaries any more,
and from what I hear, few of those who do read them do not use yEnc.

I know that if you can post in yEnc, you could also post in regular
jpeg format. Why not stick to that to get the widest audience?


Uh, buck, it IS a jpeg. The "encoding" method is yEnc. What would
be the correct suggestion is that Joe sets the news program to use
either mime or UUENCODE to send the images with.

Jeff

Joe Bento May 5th 09 11:49 PM

"All American Four" Guitar Amp - "aa4.JPG" yEnc (1/1)
 
On 2009-05-05 16:01:13 -0600, Jeffrey D Angus said:

Buck Frobisher wrote:
Hi, Joe.

There are not so many people that can get the binaries any more,
and from what I hear, few of those who do read them do not use yEnc.

I know that if you can post in yEnc, you could also post in regular
jpeg format. Why not stick to that to get the widest audience?


Uh, buck, it IS a jpeg. The "encoding" method is yEnc. What would
be the correct suggestion is that Joe sets the news program to use
either mime or UUENCODE to send the images with.



I'm on OS-X (Mac) using a newsreader called Unison. It will
automatically embed the image within the message, and I cannot see
where there is a setting to change the encoding format. I've sent an
email off to the Unison support people to see how I can change this.

Thanks!

Joe


Joe Bento May 6th 09 05:19 AM

yEnc vs MIME encoding
 
On 2009-05-05 16:01:13 -0600, Jeffrey D Angus said:

Uh, buck, it IS a jpeg. The "encoding" method is yEnc. What would
be the correct suggestion is that Joe sets the news program to use
either mime or UUENCODE to send the images with.


I think there is an issue of learning how this newsreader handles
files. I can upload a file, which apparently is encoded with yEnc.
OR... I can attach a file as part of a message, such as this. This
should be in mime format. Please let me know if otherwise. This is
another guitar amp made with a 50L6 and 12AX7.


Michael A. Terrell May 6th 09 05:50 AM

yEnc vs MIME encoding
 

Joe Bento wrote:

On 2009-05-05 16:01:13 -0600, Jeffrey D Angus said:

Uh, buck, it IS a jpeg. The "encoding" method is yEnc. What would
be the correct suggestion is that Joe sets the news program to use
either mime or UUENCODE to send the images with.


I think there is an issue of learning how this newsreader handles
files. I can upload a file, which apparently is encoded with yEnc.
OR... I can attach a file as part of a message, such as this. This
should be in mime format. Please let me know if otherwise. This is
another guitar amp made with a 50L6 and 12AX7.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Image]



It came through as a normal .jpg file. The header says "Multi-part
message in MIME format". I can't copy the source and paste it without a
lot of extra steps, but it does work.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Joe Bento May 6th 09 06:16 AM

yEnc vs MIME encoding
 
On 2009-05-05 22:50:54 -0600, "Michael A. Terrell"
said:

It came through as a normal .jpg file. The header says "Multi-part
message in MIME format". I can't copy the source and paste it without a
lot of extra steps, but it does work.


Thank you.

Joe


Jeffrey D Angus May 6th 09 06:44 AM

yEnc vs MIME encoding
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
It came through as a normal .jpg file. The header says "Multi-part
message in MIME format". I can't copy the source and paste it without a
lot of extra steps, but it does work.


Nods, here's a snippet from the header:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
----------------1036932043430841833
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


Jeff

Michael A. Terrell May 6th 09 01:44 PM

yEnc vs MIME encoding
 

Joe Bento wrote:

On 2009-05-05 22:50:54 -0600, "Michael A. Terrell"
said:

It came through as a normal .jpg file. The header says "Multi-part
message in MIME format". I can't copy the source and paste it without a
lot of extra steps, but it does work.


Thank you.



You're welcome. Take care.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Alan Douglas May 7th 09 12:20 AM

yEnc vs MIME encoding
 
It opens like a normal .jpg here, with a very old version of Free
Agent. It says "base64" rather than "uuencoded", that's the only
difference.

Alan

Paul Crawford May 9th 09 04:15 PM

"All American Four" Guitar Amp - "aa4.JPG" yEnc (1/1)
 
On Tue, 05 May 2009 09:04:47 -0400, Buck Frobisher wrote:

Hi, Joe.

There are not so many people that can get the binaries any more, and
from what I hear, few of those who do read them do not use yEnc.

I know that if you can post in yEnc, you could also post in regular jpeg
format. Why not stick to that to get the widest audience?


I used to use Thunderbird for newsgroups, but its support for yEnc sucks
big time. However, I now use Pan and that works very well for text and
yEnc/UUencoded data and its free (both "as in beer" and "as in speech").

For Ubuntu LINUX (and a few others) you can install Pan directly from the
system's Package Manager (the prefered option). For other systems where
that is not an option, and for Windows, check out the web site:

http://pan.rebelbase.com/

Regards,
Paul

Joe Bento May 9th 09 08:15 PM

"All American Four" Guitar Amp - "aa4.JPG" yEnc (1/1)
 
On 2009-05-09 09:15:02 -0600, Paul Crawford said:

I used to use Thunderbird for newsgroups, but its support for yEnc sucks
big time. However, I now use Pan and that works very well for text and
yEnc/UUencoded data and its free (both "as in beer" and "as in speech").

For Ubuntu LINUX (and a few others) you can install Pan directly from the
system's Package Manager (the prefered option). For other systems where
that is not an option, and for Windows, check out the web site:

http://pan.rebelbase.com/


I use a Mac, and the selection is much more sparse than for Windows.
OS-X can run most any Linux / Unix programl, however. Unison is what
I'm currently using, and I really like its interface. As long as I
remember to embed any binary file within a message, it looks like it
uploads in mime. If I chose to do strictly a binary transfer, it
uploads in yEnc. Panic, the makers of the Unison newsreader say they
are looking into making the digital transfer user selectable.

Is there a definitive standard for binary transfer? Is yEnc a newer /
older protocol? Or might it be a Unix based protocol upon which OS-X
is derived?

Joe


Paul Crawford[_2_] May 9th 09 11:49 PM

"All American Four" Guitar Amp - "aa4.JPG" yEnc (1/1)
 
On Sat, 09 May 2009 13:15:19 -0600, Joe Bento wrote:

I use a Mac, and the selection is much more sparse than for Windows.
OS-X can run most any Linux / Unix programl, however. Unison is what
I'm currently using, and I really like its interface. As long as I
remember to embed any binary file within a message, it looks like it
uploads in mime. If I chose to do strictly a binary transfer, it
uploads in yEnc. Panic, the makers of the Unison newsreader say they
are looking into making the digital transfer user selectable.


If you are very brave you could try compiling pan for the Mac!

Is there a definitive standard for binary transfer? Is yEnc a newer /
older protocol? Or might it be a Unix based protocol upon which OS-X is
derived?


I think (but I am not an expert) that the first was uuencoding (Unix to
Unix by text transfer methods) and it became the standard for email, and
so was used for newsgroups as well. However, yEnc is more efficient by a
small amount so became prefered by some for posting the bigger images,
etc, seen in the '.binary' type of newsgroup.

Quite why it was never properly implemented in Thunderbird and so on I
don't know, maybe just the relative lack of newsgroup interest by the new
generation of users of t'Internet.

Regards,
Paul


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