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ToeJam November 8th 06 04:26 AM

My Take on CW
 
The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams still
use CW? I think technical knowledge far outweighs the CW requirement.
If it's eliminated, more people will PROBABLY take the test, however,
you must also understand that it takes a lot of money to set up a proper
station, and an operator that's devoted to the hobby. I don't think you
will see a lot of folks running out purchasing $1000 Yaesu's and
Kenwoods to get on the air if CW is eliminated. The FCC eliminated the
requirement for a fricken CB license (KABE 1356) long ago and you sure
don't see folks yapping away on CB's. They have cell phones now to
communicate and GPS' to know where they are going. I have a couple
GMRS/FRS radios and even paid the $80 FCC license fee. I believe in
being legal. It doesn't pay to get caught and fined.

Therefore, if CW is eliminated, I do not think it will harm Ham Radio
one bit. Things change with time. There won't even be an exam to talk
on Ham frequencies in the future either. You young folks may see that
happen. The cost of equipment will keep those that only want to screw
around away from the hobby, believe me. Cost is one of the reasons I
haven't got a ticket. I had a good friend of mine that had a Technician
Class license (WB7RFL Tom Buckner, deceased) that was willing to teach
me what I needed to know. However, the sheer cost of equipment kept me
out of it. Anyone looking for a couple Cobra CB's? One is SSB.

Besides, what are all of you Ham operators afraid of? Sure you had to
take the CW test and passed. Like I said, things change with time. Take
a young person interested in the hobby and teach them the proper way to
operate and pass the exam. QRT.

PowerHouse Communications November 8th 06 12:10 PM

My Take on CW
 
Who cares! CW doesn't belong in a SCANNER group. Discuss it in a more
appropriate group; there are MANY of them, and this is not one of them!


"ToeJam" stuck his ToeJammed bigfoot up his ass and
wrote in message ...

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams still
use CW? SNIP



ToeJam November 8th 06 03:11 PM

My Take on CW
 
PowerHouse Communications wrote:
Who cares! CW doesn't belong in a SCANNER group. Discuss it in a more
appropriate group; there are MANY of them, and this is not one of them!


"ToeJam" stuck his ToeJammed bigfoot up his ass and
wrote in message ...

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams still
use CW? SNIP



You could have fooled me. From what I see here, there are more Ham
related postings than Scanner postings. Are you jummping all over the
other folks that are posting Ham related material too? Or did you just
get up on the wrong side of the bed? I'm not new to Usenet and don't
normally post off topic material, but when I see more postings
concerning a subject not related to the newsgroup, I figure maybe folks
gyrated from scanners to Ham. So don't go preaching to me with your
****ty attitude. You could have phrased your response a bit kinder
instead of being an asshole about it. I'll lurk and see how you
personally deal with the other Ham related postings. And FWIW, Scanners
are strongly related to Ham radio, always have been and always will be.


Slow Code November 9th 06 12:45 AM

My Take on CW
 
ToeJam wrote in :

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams still
use CW? I think technical knowledge far outweighs the CW requirement.
If it's eliminated, more people will PROBABLY take the test, however,
you must also understand that it takes a lot of money to set up a proper
station, and an operator that's devoted to the hobby. I don't think you
will see a lot of folks running out purchasing $1000 Yaesu's and
Kenwoods to get on the air if CW is eliminated. The FCC eliminated the
requirement for a fricken CB license (KABE 1356) long ago and you sure
don't see folks yapping away on CB's. They have cell phones now to
communicate and GPS' to know where they are going. I have a couple
GMRS/FRS radios and even paid the $80 FCC license fee. I believe in
being legal. It doesn't pay to get caught and fined.

Therefore, if CW is eliminated, I do not think it will harm Ham Radio
one bit. Things change with time. There won't even be an exam to talk
on Ham frequencies in the future either. You young folks may see that
happen. The cost of equipment will keep those that only want to screw
around away from the hobby, believe me. Cost is one of the reasons I
haven't got a ticket. I had a good friend of mine that had a Technician
Class license (WB7RFL Tom Buckner, deceased) that was willing to teach
me what I needed to know. However, the sheer cost of equipment kept me
out of it. Anyone looking for a couple Cobra CB's? One is SSB.

Besides, what are all of you Ham operators afraid of? Sure you had to
take the CW test and passed. Like I said, things change with time. Take
a young person interested in the hobby and teach them the proper way to
operate and pass the exam. QRT.



You're just Lazy.

Good ops aren't lazy ops.

SC

Allan9 November 12th 06 10:09 PM

slow crapathon conitues
 
Had to learn CW in 1956. Last time I used it was 1956.
Al

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:45:43 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

ToeJam wrote in :

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams still
use CW? I think technical knowledge far outweighs the CW requirement.




honestjohn November 12th 06 10:25 PM

slow crapathon conitues
 

"Allan9" wrote in message
...
Had to learn CW in 1956. Last time I used it was 1956.
Al

I had to learn CW in 1972. Last time I used it was 1972.

H.J.



Slow Code November 14th 06 12:55 AM

slow crapathon conitues
 
"honestjohn" wrote in
:


"Allan9" wrote in message
...
Had to learn CW in 1956. Last time I used it was 1956.
Al

I had to learn CW in 1972. Last time I used it was 1972.

H.J.



When was the last time you two used you're brains, 56 & 72?

SC

Allan9 November 14th 06 04:21 AM

slow crapathon conitues
 
That wasn't necessary.
Al

"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...
"honestjohn" wrote in
:


"Allan9" wrote in message
...
Had to learn CW in 1956. Last time I used it was 1956.
Al

I had to learn CW in 1972. Last time I used it was 1972.

H.J.



When was the last time you two used you're brains, 56 & 72?

SC




PowerHouse Communications November 14th 06 03:33 PM

My Take on CW
 

"ToeJam" wrote in message
...
PowerHouse Communications wrote:
Who cares! CW doesn't belong in a SCANNER group. Discuss it in a more
appropriate group; there are MANY of them, and this is not one of them!


"ToeJam" stuck his ToeJammed bigfoot up his ass and
wrote in message ...

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams still
use CW? SNIP



You could have fooled me. From what I see here, there are more Ham related
postings than Scanner postings. Are you jummping all over the other folks
that are posting Ham related material too? Or did you just get up on the
wrong side of the bed? I'm not new to Usenet and don't normally post off
topic material, but when I see more postings concerning a subject not
related to the newsgroup, I figure maybe folks gyrated from scanners to
Ham. So don't go preaching to me with your ****ty attitude. You could
have phrased your response a bit kinder instead of being an asshole about
it. I'll lurk and see how you personally deal with the other Ham related
postings. And FWIW, Scanners are strongly related to Ham radio, always
have been and always will be.


No offense, but I don't see the other HAM related postings... All that
off-topic crap is filtered out by my newsreader... Sorry, I didn't mean to
make you feel like I was singling you out, I just don't see the other crap,
there for I don't have a need to "deal" with it...




ToeJam November 15th 06 05:47 PM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
PowerHouse Communications wrote:
"ToeJam" wrote in message
...

PowerHouse Communications wrote:

Who cares! CW doesn't belong in a SCANNER group. Discuss it in a more
appropriate group; there are MANY of them, and this is not one of them!


"ToeJam" stuck his ToeJammed bigfoot up his ass and
wrote in message ...

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams still
use CW? SNIP


You could have fooled me. From what I see here, there are more Ham related
postings than Scanner postings. Are you jummping all over the other folks
that are posting Ham related material too? Or did you just get up on the
wrong side of the bed? I'm not new to Usenet and don't normally post off
topic material, but when I see more postings concerning a subject not
related to the newsgroup, I figure maybe folks gyrated from scanners to
Ham. So don't go preaching to me with your ****ty attitude. You could
have phrased your response a bit kinder instead of being an asshole about
it. I'll lurk and see how you personally deal with the other Ham related
postings. And FWIW, Scanners are strongly related to Ham radio, always
have been and always will be.



No offense, but I don't see the other HAM related postings... All that
off-topic crap is filtered out by my newsreader... Sorry, I didn't mean to
make you feel like I was singling you out, I just don't see the other crap,
there for I don't have a need to "deal" with it...




No offense taken. And yes, if you turn your filer off or use another
reader, you will see a flood of HAM related material here, more so than
scanners. It actually took me by surprise to see so much. I usually
try to stay on topic on Usenet but with this newsgroup, it's hard to
tell what the on topic discussion should be about. Later.

Slow Code November 16th 06 12:30 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
ToeJam wrote in :

PowerHouse Communications wrote:
"ToeJam" wrote in message
...

PowerHouse Communications wrote:

Who cares! CW doesn't belong in a SCANNER group. Discuss it in a
more appropriate group; there are MANY of them, and this is not one of
them!


"ToeJam" stuck his ToeJammed bigfoot up his ass
and wrote in message ...

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams
still use CW? SNIP


You could have fooled me. From what I see here, there are more Ham
related postings than Scanner postings. Are you jummping all over the
other folks that are posting Ham related material too? Or did you just
get up on the wrong side of the bed? I'm not new to Usenet and don't
normally post off topic material, but when I see more postings
concerning a subject not related to the newsgroup, I figure maybe folks
gyrated from scanners to Ham. So don't go preaching to me with your
****ty attitude. You could have phrased your response a bit kinder
instead of being an asshole about it. I'll lurk and see how you
personally deal with the other Ham related postings. And FWIW,
Scanners are strongly related to Ham radio, always have been and always
will be.



No offense, but I don't see the other HAM related postings... All that
off-topic crap is filtered out by my newsreader... Sorry, I didn't
mean to make you feel like I was singling you out, I just don't see the
other crap, there for I don't have a need to "deal" with it...




No offense taken. And yes, if you turn your filer off or use another
reader, you will see a flood of HAM related material here, more so than
scanners. It actually took me by surprise to see so much. I usually
try to stay on topic on Usenet but with this newsgroup, it's hard to
tell what the on topic discussion should be about. Later.



No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and will
improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're involved with.
A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the services and
hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC

Brian Denley November 16th 06 01:10 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
So, in other words, if you don't know how to develop film, you have no
business doing digital photography? Brilliant!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and will
improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're involved with.
A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the services and
hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC




[email protected] November 16th 06 03:08 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
You know, CW may be obsolete, but having to learn the code instilled a
bit of discipline and sense of purpose in getting a ham license. Of
course things like mathematics, science and such that require mental
discipline are no longer politically correct so are generally not
required in education today because we certainly don't want to bruise
anyone's ego or tax their MTV indoctrinated brains. So, I guess the
code will have to go.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson

Brian Denley wrote:
So, in other words, if you don't know how to develop film, you have no
business doing digital photography? Brilliant!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and will
improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're involved with.
A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the services and
hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC



Brian Denley November 16th 06 03:47 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
Increase the theory test requirements. Kick some life into the hobby!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

wrote in message
ups.com...
You know, CW may be obsolete, but having to learn the code instilled a
bit of discipline and sense of purpose in getting a ham license. Of
course things like mathematics, science and such that require mental
discipline are no longer politically correct so are generally not
required in education today because we certainly don't want to bruise
anyone's ego or tax their MTV indoctrinated brains. So, I guess the
code will have to go.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson

Brian Denley wrote:
So, in other words, if you don't know how to develop film, you have no
business doing digital photography? Brilliant!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and
will
improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're involved
with.
A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the services and
hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC





Radiosrfun November 16th 06 04:01 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
wrote in message
ups.com...
You know, CW may be obsolete, but having to learn the code instilled a
bit of discipline and sense of purpose in getting a ham license. Of
course things like mathematics, science and such that require mental
discipline are no longer politically correct so are generally not
required in education today because we certainly don't want to bruise
anyone's ego or tax their MTV indoctrinated brains. So, I guess the
code will have to go.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson


It isn't so much the "code" being removed which has dumbed it down, it used
to be you "had" to know electronics to get a license. Blame it on the Study
Guides which really don't teach ****.

Personally, instead of seeing this CODE argument going on forever and not
solving a damned thing, using the above post of the other necessities of
life - if you intend to get anywhere - let's argue - and understandably so
and more welcome than the code argument - why the classes are being dumbed
down for our kids! Around here, the schools are wanting to build near
professional sports arenas and I'm speaking "millions of dollars" - for the
"Football" games - to hell with the studies. They "used" to give you basic
supplies when you went to school, now you buy your own. The "School Board"
seats are more hotly contested than some of the "State and Local" government
seats. Yet the education level isn't improving.
No child left behind? Eh, not if they're foot ball players. IF NOT - they're
screwed.

Just my 2 cents.



[email protected] November 16th 06 04:22 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
I know this is getting OT, but I agree. Ever see the stats on what the
school board people and administrators get paid compared to teachers?
Ever look at the ratio of school board administrative staff to
teachers? In New York some years ago investigative reporting indicated
that there were approximately 7 administrators per teacher and most had
"company" cars. Now we know where the money goes and why real
education doesn't matter.

Frank


Radiosrfun wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
You know, CW may be obsolete, but having to learn the code instilled a
bit of discipline and sense of purpose in getting a ham license. Of
course things like mathematics, science and such that require mental
discipline are no longer politically correct so are generally not
required in education today because we certainly don't want to bruise
anyone's ego or tax their MTV indoctrinated brains. So, I guess the
code will have to go.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson


It isn't so much the "code" being removed which has dumbed it down, it used
to be you "had" to know electronics to get a license. Blame it on the Study
Guides which really don't teach ****.

Personally, instead of seeing this CODE argument going on forever and not
solving a damned thing, using the above post of the other necessities of
life - if you intend to get anywhere - let's argue - and understandably so
and more welcome than the code argument - why the classes are being dumbed
down for our kids! Around here, the schools are wanting to build near
professional sports arenas and I'm speaking "millions of dollars" - for the
"Football" games - to hell with the studies. They "used" to give you basic
supplies when you went to school, now you buy your own. The "School Board"
seats are more hotly contested than some of the "State and Local" government
seats. Yet the education level isn't improving.
No child left behind? Eh, not if they're foot ball players. IF NOT - they're
screwed.

Just my 2 cents.



[email protected] November 16th 06 03:33 PM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
"guess you have forgotten the antics of the 80 m crowd all code tested"

Well, I guess this proves there are assholes in every group! You can't
beat 80M for this.

Frank



wrote:
On 15 Nov 2006 19:08:37 -0800,
wrote:

You know, CW may be obsolete, but having to learn the code instilled a
bit of discipline and sense of purpose in getting a ham license


guess you have forgotten the antics of the 80 m crowd all code tested

. Of
course things like mathematics, science and such that require mental
discipline are no longer politically correct so are generally not
required in education today because we certainly don't want to bruise
anyone's ego or tax their MTV indoctrinated brains. So, I guess the
code will have to go.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson

Brian Denley wrote:
So, in other words, if you don't know how to develop film, you have no
business doing digital photography? Brilliant!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and will
improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're involved with.
A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the services and
hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC

http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



[email protected] November 16th 06 03:56 PM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 

Radiosrfun wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
You know, CW may be obsolete, but having to learn the code instilled a
bit of discipline and sense of purpose in getting a ham license. Of
course things like mathematics, science and such that require mental
discipline are no longer politically correct so are generally not
required in education today because we certainly don't want to bruise
anyone's ego or tax their MTV indoctrinated brains. So, I guess the
code will have to go.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson


It isn't so much the "code" being removed which has dumbed it down, it used
to be you "had" to know electronics to get a license. Blame it on the Study
Guides which really don't teach ****.


Regarding testing for a ham license, I think that is a good idea. I
just think we should be testing for skills that show some ability by
the operator to set up and operate a rig safely. And we should test
his ability to communicate effectively and courteously in a widely
used form of communication that can be understood by emergency
responders: voice.



Personally, instead of seeing this CODE argument going on forever and not
solving a damned thing, using the above post of the other necessities of
life - if you intend to get anywhere - let's argue - and understandably so
and more welcome than the code argument - why the classes are being dumbed
down for our kids! Around here, the schools are wanting to build near
professional sports arenas and I'm speaking "millions of dollars" - for the
"Football" games - to hell with the studies. They "used" to give you basic
supplies when you went to school, now you buy your own. The "School Board"
seats are more hotly contested than some of the "State and Local" government
seats. Yet the education level isn't improving.


I don't know about your area, but mine has two distinct tracks for
kids. Those that are headed for a college education receive various
levels of advanced classes based on ability (more or less). Those that
are on the vocational track receive math and english at a level to get
them past NCLB requirements and the equivalent of shop classes. The
stadiums are for the most part outdoor with bleachers looking over a
multipurpose playing field that has a running track around it. And
this is one of the higher income areas of the country.

I do agree that sports in high school and college can be taken to
absurd levels of importance. In many locations, especially urban ones
the high school is essentially a farm club for colleges which are a
farm club for major league sports. I would love to see the system
taken back several notches but there is too much money at stake for
that to happen.


No child left behind? Eh, not if they're foot ball players. IF NOT - they're
screwed.

Just my 2 cents.



Radiosrfun November 16th 06 07:17 PM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
wrote in message
oups.com...

Radiosrfun wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
You know, CW may be obsolete, but having to learn the code instilled a
bit of discipline and sense of purpose in getting a ham license. Of
course things like mathematics, science and such that require mental
discipline are no longer politically correct so are generally not
required in education today because we certainly don't want to bruise
anyone's ego or tax their MTV indoctrinated brains. So, I guess the
code will have to go.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson


It isn't so much the "code" being removed which has dumbed it down, it
used
to be you "had" to know electronics to get a license. Blame it on the
Study
Guides which really don't teach ****.


Regarding testing for a ham license, I think that is a good idea. I
just think we should be testing for skills that show some ability by
the operator to set up and operate a rig safely. And we should test
his ability to communicate effectively and courteously in a widely
used form of communication that can be understood by emergency
responders: voice.



Personally, instead of seeing this CODE argument going on forever and not
solving a damned thing, using the above post of the other necessities of
life - if you intend to get anywhere - let's argue - and understandably
so
and more welcome than the code argument - why the classes are being
dumbed
down for our kids! Around here, the schools are wanting to build near
professional sports arenas and I'm speaking "millions of dollars" - for
the
"Football" games - to hell with the studies. They "used" to give you
basic
supplies when you went to school, now you buy your own. The "School
Board"
seats are more hotly contested than some of the "State and Local"
government
seats. Yet the education level isn't improving.


I don't know about your area, but mine has two distinct tracks for
kids. Those that are headed for a college education receive various
levels of advanced classes based on ability (more or less). Those that
are on the vocational track receive math and english at a level to get
them past NCLB requirements and the equivalent of shop classes. The
stadiums are for the most part outdoor with bleachers looking over a
multipurpose playing field that has a running track around it. And
this is one of the higher income areas of the country.

I do agree that sports in high school and college can be taken to
absurd levels of importance. In many locations, especially urban ones
the high school is essentially a farm club for colleges which are a
farm club for major league sports. I would love to see the system
taken back several notches but there is too much money at stake for
that to happen.


No child left behind? Eh, not if they're foot ball players. IF NOT -
they're
screwed.

Just my 2 cents.



Regarding the "education". They teach "some" college level prep classes. As
to those with lesser ambition/grades, they have "classes" - period. There is
"Vo Tech" - but you had to have a certain grade average to get in "there".
As to shop, one school I know of - sold all their shop equipment years ago -
that being the same school "I" went to and got my start in electronics
training. I've never heard much of other schools having "shop" class around
here. The "stadiums" at some of these schools here reach into the "millions"
of dollars, upping the taxes on all who live there. Those stadiums are
damned close to being equivalent to a "Pro" Field. Hell, our local "state"
University doesn't even match some of them. That is pathetic. Yes, kids need
sports to teach sportsmanship and competition, but come on - "EDUCATION"
being "reading, writing, arithmatic" and so on are more important. AND as I
said, they fight for school board seats hotter than some local and state
government races. It is "sickening".

They've eliminated the "Wood, Electronics, Metal (including welding) and
Electrical" shops here. Now, I realize "Electronics" may not be as hot to
some as it once was, but it still has value in our country. So too does
"Electrical" systems/wiring, "Welding", etc. Do we not need "skilled" labor
anymore? No wonder this country is going to hell. Pretty soon all other
countries will out smart us in every field. Those who were pushing "no child
left behind" - need to get things back on track for "develpment" of
"marketable" skills."
We're still going to need things wired, welded, soldered, electronics to
mainain the "cell phone craze" and so on.

I realize most parents are working and unlike the past - at least one parent
made sure we did our chores, studying and so on..... things have changed
dramatically. They need to change dramatically again. Get these kids
interested in something. Even computers seem to be falling out of grace with
a lot of them - aside from chatting. I guess they equate computers to
"work".



Slow Code November 17th 06 12:55 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
"Brian Denley" wrote in
:

So, in other words, if you don't know how to develop film, you have no
business doing digital photography? Brilliant!

--
Brian Denley



Right, That why there is CB. You don't have to know how it works you just
get on it and act stupid. We can't have ham radio be like that, we want
skill. Quality, not quantity.

I know a lot of you don't like that because it means more work, but we get
a higher quality operator.


"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and
will improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're
involved with. A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the
services and hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC







U-Know-Who November 17th 06 01:32 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 

"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Brian Denley" wrote in
:

So, in other words, if you don't know how to develop film, you have no
business doing digital photography? Brilliant!

--
Brian Denley



Right, That why there is CB. You don't have to know how it works you just
get on it and act stupid. We can't have ham radio be like that, we want
skill. Quality, not quantity.

I know a lot of you don't like that because it means more work, but we get
a higher quality operator.


"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and
will improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're
involved with. A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the
services and hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC




But at the end of the day SC, no one wants to talk to you. 10-4 good buddy?



Slow Code November 18th 06 01:20 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
"U-Know-Who" wrote in
:


"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Brian Denley" wrote in
:

So, in other words, if you don't know how to develop film, you have no
business doing digital photography? Brilliant!

--
Brian Denley



Right, That why there is CB. You don't have to know how it works you
just get on it and act stupid. We can't have ham radio be like that,
we want skill. Quality, not quantity.

I know a lot of you don't like that because it means more work, but we
get a higher quality operator.


"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it
by improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most
will agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled
hobbiest and will improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service
you're involved with. A valuable knowledge base for those of coming
into the services and hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC



But at the end of the day SC, no one wants to talk to you.



Why talk at all? Skilled operators know CW.

SC

[email protected] November 20th 06 12:52 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
Well, I'm excited about learning code. I have been given some great
websites for practice. And I'm going to try to test in January 2007.
I don't know if I can be ready that quick - but I'm going to give it a
shot. Also, I have been encouraged by several hams to learn the
sounds as complete thoughts instead of learning just letter
recognition. A bit like learning to read, I guess - so I will try that
method. Thanks for the hints.
Slow Code wrote:
ToeJam wrote in :

PowerHouse Communications wrote:
"ToeJam" wrote in message
...

PowerHouse Communications wrote:

Who cares! CW doesn't belong in a SCANNER group. Discuss it in a
more appropriate group; there are MANY of them, and this is not one of
them!


"ToeJam" stuck his ToeJammed bigfoot up his ass
and wrote in message ...

The need for CW has been waining for many years now and technology has
eliminated a need for it. Why do we still need CW? How many Hams
still use CW? SNIP


You could have fooled me. From what I see here, there are more Ham
related postings than Scanner postings. Are you jummping all over the
other folks that are posting Ham related material too? Or did you just
get up on the wrong side of the bed? I'm not new to Usenet and don't
normally post off topic material, but when I see more postings
concerning a subject not related to the newsgroup, I figure maybe folks
gyrated from scanners to Ham. So don't go preaching to me with your
****ty attitude. You could have phrased your response a bit kinder
instead of being an asshole about it. I'll lurk and see how you
personally deal with the other Ham related postings. And FWIW,
Scanners are strongly related to Ham radio, always have been and always
will be.



No offense, but I don't see the other HAM related postings... All that
off-topic crap is filtered out by my newsreader... Sorry, I didn't
mean to make you feel like I was singling you out, I just don't see the
other crap, there for I don't have a need to "deal" with it...




No offense taken. And yes, if you turn your filer off or use another
reader, you will see a flood of HAM related material here, more so than
scanners. It actually took me by surprise to see so much. I usually
try to stay on topic on Usenet but with this newsgroup, it's hard to
tell what the on topic discussion should be about. Later.



No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and will
improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're involved with.
A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the services and
hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC



Slow Code November 21st 06 12:55 AM

My Take on CW - for Powerhouse
 
wrote in
ups.com:

Well, I'm excited about learning code. I have been given some great
websites for practice. And I'm going to try to test in January 2007.
I don't know if I can be ready that quick - but I'm going to give it a
shot. Also, I have been encouraged by several hams to learn the
sounds as complete thoughts instead of learning just letter
recognition. A bit like learning to read, I guess - so I will try that
method. Thanks for the hints.




Good luck with it. :) We love helping people that want to good hams get a
license. That's a good point on learning CW. As you get better and
faster at it, you don't hear individual letters, you hear and your mind
memorizes the sound of whole words.

Markie will probably flame you for wanting to learn CW, but just ignore
Markie, he's a retard.

SC


Slow Code wrote:
No matter what facet of radio you enjoy, the topic is to protect it by
improving the quality of the hobbiests involved. That's why most will
agree if you know morse code, you'll be a better skilled hobbiest and
will improve your nich of the hobby and/or radio service you're
involved with. A valuable knowledge base for those of coming into the
services and hobby.

Tnx, 73 Good luck in the contest.

SC


Dana December 17th 06 01:34 PM

Looking for a manual.
 
Would anyone happen to have the manual for a radio shack htx-212 2 meter
rig in either pdf format or in .txt? I am blind, and need to try to figure
out how to set the pl tones on this rig. If you have one, or can point me
to a web site, that would be great. Just e-mail to this address.
Tnx.


U-Know-Who December 17th 06 02:48 PM

Looking for a manual.
 

"Dana" wrote in message
. com...
Would anyone happen to have the manual for a radio shack htx-212 2 meter
rig in either pdf format or in .txt? I am blind, and need to try to figure
out how to set the pl tones on this rig. If you have one, or can point me
to a web site, that would be great. Just e-mail to this address.
Tnx.


http://www.radioshack.com/graphics/u...1125_PM_EN.pdf

Hopefully someone can read it for you as I don't know that text to speech
can read this PDF.



Ed December 17th 06 06:57 PM

Looking for a manual.
 


Would anyone happen to have the manual for a radio shack htx-212 2
meter rig in either pdf format or in .txt? I am blind, and need to try
to figure out how to set the pl tones on this rig. If you have one, or
can point me to a web site, that would be great. Just e-mail to this
address. Tnx.



http://www.mods.dk has both the user manual and the service manual
for this radio. You do not have to have an account to get a single
download per week.



Ed K7AAT

Dana December 18th 06 04:50 AM

Looking for a manual.
 
Hi all. Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded. I got the
manual, then got it into .txt then got a ham to look for a picture of the
rig on the net so he could tell me the button layout. I got all my pl
tones in and everything is rorking just fine. Thanks from Dana in Griffin,
Georgia. n4pge.



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