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Public has almost no access to new police radios
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Public has almost no access to new police radios
"BDK" wrote in message
... In article .com, says... Abilene Reporter News Public has almost no access to new police radios Is it just me, or does it seem like the author really doesn't quite understand what they are writing about? Well it is not totally clear from the article- are they encrypting all but a few talkgroups? If that is the case it certainly is one of the more restrictive public safety radio systems around. |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
In article ,
says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article .com, says... Abilene Reporter News Public has almost no access to new police radios Is it just me, or does it seem like the author really doesn't quite understand what they are writing about? Well it is not totally clear from the article- are they encrypting all but a few talkgroups? If that is the case it certainly is one of the more restrictive public safety radio systems around. I read it a couple of times and I can't tell if they think digital is encrypted, or it really is encrypted. www.radioreference.com would have the info, if I could figure out what county Abilene is in. BDK |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
In Texas, west Texas that is. Why does a west Texas PD need for such a
system. Since 9-11 Millions has been spent for towns to upgrade to Hi tech crap. Everyone has gone Terrorist crazy. "BDK" wrote in message ... In article , says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article .com, says... Abilene Reporter News Public has almost no access to new police radios Is it just me, or does it seem like the author really doesn't quite understand what they are writing about? Well it is not totally clear from the article- are they encrypting all but a few talkgroups? If that is the case it certainly is one of the more restrictive public safety radio systems around. I read it a couple of times and I can't tell if they think digital is encrypted, or it really is encrypted. www.radioreference.com would have the info, if I could figure out what county Abilene is in. BDK |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
In article ,
says... In Texas, west Texas that is. Why does a west Texas PD need for such a system. Since 9-11 Millions has been spent for towns to upgrade to Hi tech crap. Everyone has gone Terrorist crazy. "BDK" wrote in message ... In article , says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article .com, says... Abilene Reporter News Public has almost no access to new police radios Is it just me, or does it seem like the author really doesn't quite understand what they are writing about? Well it is not totally clear from the article- are they encrypting all but a few talkgroups? If that is the case it certainly is one of the more restrictive public safety radio systems around. I read it a couple of times and I can't tell if they think digital is encrypted, or it really is encrypted. www.radioreference.com would have the info, if I could figure out what county Abilene is in. BDK I know where Abilene is, but I can't seem to find the county, and without the county, radioreference is pretty useless. BDK |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
I know where Abilene is, but I can't seem to find the county, and without the county, radioreference is pretty useless. BDK According to my mapping software it's Taylor County. Dave |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
"Dave Ferguson" wrote in message link.net... I know where Abilene is, but I can't seem to find the county, and without the county, radioreference is pretty useless. BDK According to my mapping software it's Taylor County. Dave Looks like an EDACS Pro-voice system which needless to say there isn't a scanner on the market to monitor that type of system. They have that here in Johnston County, NC. Dave |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
"BDK" wrote in message
... I read it a couple of times and I can't tell if they think digital is encrypted, or it really is encrypted. www.radioreference.com would have the info, if I could figure out what county Abilene is in. BDK RR is great for info but often is WAYYYY behind on changes. The system here changed a couple years ago and RR still does not have the info right. A couple people I know of tried to get them to update it, but it still shows the wrong info. So they may or may not have the right info. -- Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. --Dave Barry |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
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@yahoo.com says... "BDK" wrote in message ... I read it a couple of times and I can't tell if they think digital is encrypted, or it really is encrypted. www.radioreference.com would have the info, if I could figure out what county Abilene is in. BDK RR is great for info but often is WAYYYY behind on changes. The system here changed a couple years ago and RR still does not have the info right. A couple people I know of tried to get them to update it, but it still shows the wrong info. So they may or may not have the right info. That's why I tell newbies to find a local scanner group. They know all the stuff, a long time before it makes it to the public. BDK |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
"zorba" wrote in message oups.com... Abilene Reporter News Abilene police and fire departments recently ditched an 18-year-old dispatch system for a new $14 million system that has better encryption capabilities and keeps many of the conversations people using police scanners are accustomed to hearing off the air. Police and fire officials began using the new system this month. Copyright 2007, Abilene Reporter News. All Rights Reserved. If the police can encrypt, then private citizens should be able to encrypt with HAM radio, too. Oh? Oh? Don't like that, police? Then don't encrypt your radio. There is something called "public records". |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
"Mindraker" wrote in message ... "zorba" wrote in message oups.com... Abilene Reporter News Abilene police and fire departments recently ditched an 18-year-old dispatch system for a new $14 million system that has better encryption capabilities and keeps many of the conversations people using police scanners are accustomed to hearing off the air. Police and fire officials began using the new system this month. Copyright 2007, Abilene Reporter News. All Rights Reserved. If the police can encrypt, then private citizens should be able to encrypt with HAM radio, too. Oh? Oh? Don't like that, police? Then don't encrypt your radio. There is something called "public records". HORSE-****!!! There are times that law enforcement NEED encrypted radios. *YOU* are not entitled to their traffic. You do not have a need to know or a right to know what is going on over police radio.If you are that interested, the PD's "PIO" will disclose it to you when it's Ok to do so. APCO-25 and GE's EDACS systems are NOT encrypted (they can order that feature) but it's used to get more "Channels" or talk groups for an entire city, makes for a more efficient system than having a frequency/repeater for each dept. Ma/Com's "OpenSky" system is ALL digital and you CAN NOT listen on that one. Bottom line....if you can hear what is going on...chances are YOU DON'T NEED TO! |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:41:20 -0400, "Mindraker" wrote:
"zorba" wrote in message roups.com... Abilene Reporter News Abilene police and fire departments recently ditched an 18-year-old dispatch system for a new $14 million system that has better encryption capabilities and keeps many of the conversations people using police scanners are accustomed to hearing off the air. Police and fire officials began using the new system this month. Copyright 2007, Abilene Reporter News. All Rights Reserved. If the police can encrypt, then private citizens should be able to encrypt with HAM radio, too. Oh? Oh? Don't like that, police? Then don't encrypt your radio. There is something called "public records". the times have changed and so have requirements for public service radio systems. the FBI now requires ALL local police agencies that use NCIC ( all police departments nowadays ) to have their MDT style systems encrypted. it's not optional , it's federal law. homeland defense wants ALL police agency radios to be compatible with their own encrypted national radio systems , in all departments nationwide. it's not law yet, but it's in the works. they strongly feel that local police should be encrypted to keep terrorists from eavesdropping. their work is compromised if a local unencrypted police department is revealing all their activities in an coordinated emergency response event. ( that's their excuse anyway ) my local police departments have used 150mhz and 450 mhz repeaters ( not trunked ) for a couple of decades. ALL local police departments are deep into the process of switching to their already up and running city wide wifi network for BOTH mdt data AND voice. there is NO way to eavesdrop on encrypted wifi at the present time. get used to it ..... change happens all the time and this is a strong era of change for the scanning hobbyist. you will have to learn to adapt to the change or just plain give up the hobby ( or what's left of it ) ........ no one in the federal government and especially local police departments cares if you think you have rights to listen in on them or not. they never liked it in the old days and they are gleeful that the time is coming that no one will be able to eavesdrop. more and more, the police think it's them ( the boys in blue ) against all the rest of us. citizens shouldn't be allowed to own guns and citizens shouldn't be privileged to the inner workings of police activities out in the streets. it's all for their own safety and protection . I love scanning, but tell you the truth , they are probably right .......... k |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
"krackula " wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:41:20 -0400, "Mindraker" wrote: "zorba" wrote in message groups.com... Abilene Reporter News Abilene police and fire departments recently ditched an 18-year-old dispatch system for a new $14 million system that has better encryption capabilities and keeps many of the conversations people using police scanners are accustomed to hearing off the air. Police and fire officials began using the new system this month. Copyright 2007, Abilene Reporter News. All Rights Reserved. If the police can encrypt, then private citizens should be able to encrypt with HAM radio, too. Oh? Oh? Don't like that, police? Then don't encrypt your radio. There is something called "public records". the times have changed and so have requirements for public service radio systems. the FBI now requires ALL local police agencies that use NCIC ( all police departments nowadays ) to have their MDT style systems encrypted. it's not optional , it's federal law. homeland defense wants ALL police agency radios to be compatible with their own encrypted national radio systems , in all departments nationwide. it's not law yet, but it's in the works. they strongly feel that local police should be encrypted to keep terrorists from eavesdropping. their work is compromised if a local unencrypted police department is revealing all their activities in an coordinated emergency response event. ( that's their excuse anyway ) my local police departments have used 150mhz and 450 mhz repeaters ( not trunked ) for a couple of decades. ALL local police departments are deep into the process of switching to their already up and running city wide wifi network for BOTH mdt data AND voice. there is NO way to eavesdrop on encrypted wifi at the present time. get used to it ..... change happens all the time and this is a strong era of change for the scanning hobbyist. you will have to learn to adapt to the change or just plain give up the hobby ( or what's left of it ) ........ no one in the federal government and especially local police departments cares if you think you have rights to listen in on them or not. they never liked it in the old days and they are gleeful that the time is coming that no one will be able to eavesdrop. more and more, the police think it's them ( the boys in blue ) against all the rest of us. citizens shouldn't be allowed to own guns and citizens shouldn't be privileged to the inner workings of police activities out in the streets. it's all for their own safety and protection . I love scanning, but tell you the truth , they are probably right .......... k This is ridiculous. Once again, police have a double standard. A nice cover, too, in case they break the law. Sure, use the "in the name of terrorism"-excuse, and they can do anything. Arrgh! |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
.......snipped .............. activities out in the streets. it's all for their own safety and protection . I love scanning, but tell you the truth , they are probably right .......... k This is ridiculous. Once again, police have a double standard. A nice cover, too, in case they break the law. Sure, use the "in the name of terrorism"-excuse, and they can do anything. Arrgh! well you're right on the level of experience that you probably interact with the public and the police ...... but look at it from their perspective. day in and day out , the police only have the opportunity to interact with the bottom feeders, scum suckers , and dregs of humanity. they hardly ever associate with or interact with the average John Q Public .... to the police , nearly all people ( that aren't wearing blue ) that they see are human waste. people are shooting them in the face for a traffic ticket stop , they are ducking bullets or fists around every corner and up every block. sad as it is, that's what this world has come to. neighborhoods are riddled with registered sex offenders ( never mind the ones that haven't been caught yet ) , cars are stolen by the 1000s from all neighborhoods , car chases are rampant , bank robberies happen all the time , murders are a daily thing ( more than one a day in this part of the country ) and THATS only a small part of the story ! If I was a cop, I wouldn't want the possibility of the " perps " having any " inside " information or radio tip offs any more than possible. if that hacked off some general citizens or made them start talking " police conspiracy " then I'd be tempted to say " bring that hacked off citizen down here on the beat with the boys in blue and duck a few bullets , chase a few bank robbers or sex offenders and see what they thought about it all afterwards. do you want the sex offenders to be able to monitor MDT and police communications ? ...... what about the drug dealers and pimps , or maybe the gang bangers while they invade your home or rape your wife ?? if YOU do it, you gotta let everyone do it as well ....... forget about the terrorists , homeland security is a WHOLE lot more in jeopardy from home grown crime right here , all around us. think it's so important for YOU to listen in that " all the perps " should be able to as well ?? I wanna listen in , but I know it's for the best if NO ONE does. it's like a lot of things in this world that the actions of a few have screwed up things for the rest of us ..... trouble is there is WAY more than a few bangers, rapists, murders, car thieves, and robbers lurking out there these days .... WAY more than a few. do cops screw up ?? .... sure they do ..... everyone does from time to time ..... but think what your world would be like without them ........ think long and hard . they aren't perfect , but they work 24 hours a day to make our lives a little bit better and most do a pretty go job in the process. |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
snipped ......... do you want the sex offenders to be able to monitor MDT and police communications ? ...... what about the drug dealers and pimps , or maybe the gang bangers while they invade your home or rape your wife ?? if YOU do it, you gotta let everyone do it as well ....... forget about the terrorists , homeland security is a WHOLE lot more in jeopardy from home grown crime right here , all around us. think it's so important for YOU to listen in that " all the perps " should be able to as well ?? I wanna listen in , but I know it's for the best if NO ONE does. it's like a lot of things in this world that the actions of a few have screwed up things for the rest of us ..... trouble is there is WAY more than a few bangers, rapists, murders, car thieves, and robbers lurking out there these days .... WAY more than a few. do cops screw up ?? .... sure they do ..... everyone does from time to time ..... but think what your world would be like without them ....... think long and hard . they aren't perfect , but they work 24 hours a day to make our lives a little bit better and most do a pretty go job in the process. WoW ... after I reread this I realized that I thought I'd heard something like this somewhere before ........ hummmmmmmm ....... Dummm De Dummmm Dummmm ....... in a minute the results of that thought !!! jf |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
"jkale" wrote in message ... ......snipped .............. activities out in the streets. it's all for their own safety and protection . I love scanning, but tell you the truth , they are probably right .......... k This is ridiculous. Once again, police have a double standard. A nice cover, too, in case they break the law. Sure, use the "in the name of terrorism"-excuse, and they can do anything. Arrgh! well you're right on the level of experience that you probably interact with the public and the police ...... but look at it from their perspective. day in and day out , the police only have the opportunity to interact with the bottom feeders, scum suckers , and dregs of humanity. they hardly ever associate with or interact with the average John Q Public .... to the police , nearly all people ( that aren't wearing blue ) that they see are human waste. people are shooting them in the face for a traffic ticket stop , they are ducking bullets or fists around every corner and up every block. sad as it is, that's what this world has come to. neighborhoods are riddled with registered sex offenders ( never mind the ones that haven't been caught yet ) , cars are stolen by the 1000s from all neighborhoods , car chases are rampant , bank robberies happen all the time , murders are a daily thing ( more than one a day in this part of the country ) and THATS only a small part of the story ! If I was a cop, I wouldn't want the possibility of the " perps " having any " inside " information or radio tip offs any more than possible. if that hacked off some general citizens or made them start talking " police conspiracy " then I'd be tempted to say " bring that hacked off citizen down here on the beat with the boys in blue and duck a few bullets , chase a few bank robbers or sex offenders and see what they thought about it all afterwards. do you want the sex offenders to be able to monitor MDT and police communications ? ...... what about the drug dealers and pimps , or maybe the gang bangers while they invade your home or rape your wife ?? if YOU do it, you gotta let everyone do it as well ....... forget about the terrorists , homeland security is a WHOLE lot more in jeopardy from home grown crime right here , all around us. think it's so important for YOU to listen in that " all the perps " should be able to as well ?? I wanna listen in , but I know it's for the best if NO ONE does. it's like a lot of things in this world that the actions of a few have screwed up things for the rest of us ..... trouble is there is WAY more than a few bangers, rapists, murders, car thieves, and robbers lurking out there these days .... WAY more than a few. do cops screw up ?? .... sure they do ..... everyone does from time to time ..... but think what your world would be like without them ....... think long and hard . they aren't perfect , but they work 24 hours a day to make our lives a little bit better and most do a pretty go job in the process. You make some valid points there. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you live in a city where police are actually fighting crime. Unfortunately, in my city, the police are rather corrupt, partially not their own fault, but because of my town's city council. I can't walk to work without bumping into a drug dealer downtown begging me for money/cigarettes/etc., but if I take a stroll in the ritzi white upper class district, it is crawling with cops (the excuse is that they are doing "radar training"). If you don't want people to talk "police conspiracy", show your hand to the public, and don't hide. |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
do cops screw up ?? .... sure they do ..... everyone does from time to time ..... but think what your world would be like without them ....... think long and hard . they aren't perfect , but they work 24 hours a day to make our lives a little bit better and most do a pretty go job in the process. You make some valid points there. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you live in a city where police are actually fighting crime. Unfortunately, in my city, the police are rather corrupt, partially not their own fault, but because of my town's city council. I can't walk to work without bumping into a drug dealer downtown begging me for money/cigarettes/etc., but if I take a stroll in the ritzi white upper class district, it is crawling with cops (the excuse is that they are doing "radar training"). If you don't want people to talk "police conspiracy", show your hand to the public, and don't hide. ha ah a ..... it's kinda opposite what you see around here. I admit that I do live in the north side ( upscale ) part of my town , but this town is nationally famous for having the 2nd highest national poverty rate ( 2nd to Cleveland , Ohio and this is California ) , it has the highest car theft rate in the west , and the highest amount of people out of work and not looking for employment ( about 237,000 people unemployed and not looking for work ) . more than 57% of the town is latino and 17% asian , the rest mixed including whites. it has an estimated 170,000 illegal immigrants living here as well. the cops are thick as flies down in the less fortunate parts of town but nearly invisible up here in the north side. I will say that I'm impressed with them tho .... as I called them about someone in a neighbor's yard a few weeks ago ( my neighbor that had lost his keys and was trying to break into his own house ) ... and in less than 3 minutes there were 3 patrol cars and a helicopter here on scene. people in the less fortunate parts of town complain they can't get a cop to come for 1 to 2 hours and that ' we " get special treatment ...... perhaps I'm inclined to agree with those complaints as I certainly got fast service when I called. this town has over 16,000 registered gang bangers and thousands more " associates " .... and the local cops have waged " war " on gangs with full out efforts to get rid of them. cops get shot and killed around here quite frequently ( usually by bank robbers and gang bangers ) and they have a very messy job in these parts of the country. I wouldn't trade places with one of them , no matter what the pay they receive. they earn every penny of it ........ the hard way. |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
"joe friday" wrote in message ... ha ah a ..... it's kinda opposite what you see around here. I admit that I do live in the north side ( upscale ) part of my town , but this town is nationally famous for having the 2nd highest national poverty rate ( 2nd to Cleveland , Ohio and this is California ) , it has the highest car theft rate in the west , and the highest amount of people out of work and not looking for employment ( about 237,000 people unemployed and not looking for work ) . more than 57% of the town is latino and 17% asian , the rest mixed including whites. it has an estimated 170,000 illegal immigrants living here as well. the cops are thick as flies down in the less fortunate parts of town but nearly invisible up here in the north side. I will say that I'm impressed with them tho .... as I called them about someone in a neighbor's yard a few weeks ago ( my neighbor that had lost his keys and was trying to break into his own house ) ... and in less than 3 minutes there were 3 patrol cars and a helicopter here on scene. people in the less fortunate parts of town complain they can't get a cop to come for 1 to 2 hours and that ' we " get special treatment ..... perhaps I'm inclined to agree with those complaints as I certainly got fast service when I called. this town has over 16,000 registered gang bangers and thousands more " associates " .... and the local cops have waged " war " on gangs with full out efforts to get rid of them. cops get shot and killed around here quite frequently ( usually by bank robbers and gang bangers ) and they have a very messy job in these parts of the country. I wouldn't trade places with one of them , no matter what the pay they receive. they earn every penny of it ....... the hard way. I live in the upscale part of town, too, but even then, I can't get a cop even when I need one, unless they are raising funds. I had a pair of cops come TO MY DOOR with the "fraternal order of police"-crap. I once waited FOUR HOURS for a stray dog call, and finally brought the dog to the local park ranger on foot (I can't drive). My friend had his van broken into, and the answer from the police was "we're too busy". Where do you live? I live in Asheville, NC. |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:27:54 -0400, "Mindraker" wrote: I live in the upscale part of town, too, but even then, I can't get a cop even when I need one, unless they are raising funds. I had a pair of cops come TO MY DOOR with the "fraternal order of police"-crap. I once waited FOUR HOURS for a stray dog call, and finally brought the dog to the local park ranger on foot (I can't drive). My friend had his van broken into, and the answer from the police was "we're too busy". Where do you live? I live in Asheville, NC. 2 events that are hardly 911 calls. Stray dog, you should have called animal control. If the robbers weren't there tearing the van open when you called. it's just a cold case. Who said we called 911? |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
I live in the upscale part of town, too, but even then, I can't get a cop even when I need one, unless they are raising funds. I had a pair of cops come TO MY DOOR with the "fraternal order of police"-crap. I once waited FOUR HOURS for a stray dog call, and finally brought the dog to the local park ranger on foot (I can't drive). My friend had his van broken into, and the answer from the police was "we're too busy". Where do you live? I live in Asheville, NC. I lived in Spring Lake for about a year ( 82nd airborne ) but that was a long time ago. it always seems like places back east are " enormously " different than living out here. seemingly nicer and much quieter in many ways. NC has also grown a lot since I lived there as well. I live in a smallish ( agricultural ) town for this state , only a little over a million people here ( legal ones , maybe another 300K total illegals in the county ) . many people live here for the ( hahahah ) lower relative living costs and commute to the mega metros for work ( 10's of millions ) . I think the S.F. metro is about the same size as the entire population of NC and the L.A. metro probably about 2 1/2 times the S.F. metro. of course add another 28 to 36 % on top of those values for the illegals. we have WAY too many people and WAY too much over crowding here and as a result we have the typical policing issues that go with all those people. here in my town we have " traffic " task forces that set up road checks in different parts of town every weekend and during the week as well. during an average traffic check point , they get around 10 - 12 drunk drivers and tow about 150 cars. one out of every 4 and sometimes one out of every 3 cars they check have insurance, D.L. or registration issues and they ticket the driver and impound their car until they fix the problem. this and they only stop every 4th or 5th car because of the traffic backing up . h aha hah aha I've noticed that they do seem to " wave through " older drivers in expensive cars most of the time and don't mess with those types of vehicles, but if you've got an older , beat , car ...... look out jack !! the city does have " swarms " of motorcycle ( 10, 15, 20 at a time ) cops that will blanket parts of town and hammer drivers. our part of town seems like a favorite place for them to " hang " too ! ya yahahah a we need it tho, drivers out here have become increasingly " psycho " and people blatantly and intentionally pull out in front of you, run red lights , and run stop signs ( to mention a few ) to such a degree that I can't explain how bad it's gotten. if I told you, you wouldn't believe me , but it's totally shocking how driving quality has degenerated here. it's far worse , too, here than in the larger metros for some reason. just too many of the " ME , get the hell out of my way " people in these parts. think about this too ......... where you live there are lush wild forests and beautiful fauna. a nice , natural, outdoors type place at the edge of the local forested mountains. where I live is a little bit different. it's filled with lush green as well. palm trees, citrus, pit fruit, grapes, and towns filled with every imaginable fragrant flower and plant , this ....all year around .... also at the edge of lush mountain giant redwood forests .... nearly a paradise of color and fragrance. the most beautiful place man can " imagine " to live in ..... this is the place. kewl huh ???..... WELL maybe not ........ if " man " didn't live here and irrigate the place , it's natural state is a wide deep ( 14,600' mountains on the east side, 1,800' mountains and ocean on the west side ) TOTALLY barren desert with almost no plants of any kind. maybe a few tumbleweeds and scraggly oak trees in the few wet spots. " the most beautiful place man can " imagine " to live in " is the key part of this. this entire place is TOTALLY synthetic. NONE of these exotic plants would be here if man didn't bring them here and plant them. NONE of these plants ( for the most part ) would grow together in the wild , anywhere on the planet. man imagines this place and creates it from their desire to be surrounded by fragrance and lush tropical plants. every where you look , everything you see is a totally manmade , " created " , imaginary environment. perfect lush green little golf course type yards, places filled with massive palm trees, fragrant coastal juniper, magnolia, dozens of kinds of eucalyptus, loquat and giant fern trees cover the landscape. a complete " synthetic " paradise !!! when I sit out back on my veranda in my jacuzzi ( hah aha ) every day and look out at the neighborhood , I see quite a different environment than people back east see. it's beautiful for sure, the flower and tree fragrances are fantastic ... BUT .... it's " all that " ... except when you think about it , there is a slightly ODD tilt to it all ....... it's a little bit twisted if you allow your mind go there , isn't it ! yayayay ahah ah ah a California IS different for sure ...... but is that necessarily a good thing ??? hummmmmmm ... |
Public has almost no access to new police radios
wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:34:44 -0400, "Mindraker" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:27:54 -0400, "Mindraker" wrote: I live in the upscale part of town, too, but even then, I can't get a cop even when I need one, unless they are raising funds. I had a pair of cops come TO MY DOOR with the "fraternal order of police"-crap. I once waited FOUR HOURS for a stray dog call, and finally brought the dog to the local park ranger on foot (I can't drive). My friend had his van broken into, and the answer from the police was "we're too busy". Where do you live? I live in Asheville, NC. 2 events that are hardly 911 calls. Stray dog, you should have called animal control. If the robbers weren't there tearing the van open when you called. it's just a cold case. Who said we called 911? You called someone on both cases. Your words. plus the reference 911 = urgent. Of which neither one was a 911 call. The van, only thing you'd do is fill out a stolen property report [at the station]. Both cases you expected more than what the police are paid to do. And if as you say they're stretched to breaking with a high crime area, the answers make perfect sense. Your misintepretation. Their website even gives a number to call in the event of stray animals. Get over it, you misread the post. |
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