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Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire December 14th 07 05:26 AM

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Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire wrote:


Well; it wasn't on the CB, 27 MHz AM band
was started in 1958. I've heard stories
about HAMs and short-wave junkies picking
up all kinds of activity during 'the war'.
There are STILL militarizes using the AM
Hi Frequency band. Interesting, tho: the
German --at least the Panzer Divisions--
were known to broadcast on VHF-Lo in
FM. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.


HF and VHF-Low are adjacent and have overlapping characteristics ca. 30 mHz.

Sure, but wouldn't 'FM Mode' negate some of the skip
pattern?
--
"...To build may have to be the slow and
laborious task of years. To destroy can be
the thoughtless act of a single day.."

Sir Winston Churchill

And, 500,000 Patagonian Pygmies nod their heads
in total agreement.
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7

HankG December 14th 07 10:35 PM

Longest distance for Scanner Reception
 

"xx" wrote in message
...

"Kilgore Trout Jr." wrote in message
news:_ok7j.15778$OR.9686@trnddc01...
Wait for sun spot max, you'll get lots of sporadic e, I've heard
transmissions from england & ireland on the vhf low band!



When's the next sun spot max?


We are at the very bottom of the solar sunspot cycle right now.
Long distance HF radio communications should improve steadily for the

next
four years or so. You can check on the current solar conditions he
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/
Keep in mind that most of the frequency bands found on a typical scanner

are
too high to be greatly affected by the solar cycle.


During the second world war, I understand that American amateurs (or
possibly CB) were picking up German inter-tank communications from North
Africa on the 27Mcs band and were relaying information back to the allied
troops in N. Africa.


I was around during the big war and remember going into my neighbor's house.
They had this big Zenith floor model which had a shortwave band. I remember
hearing 'action' in English (must have been our's). Sounded like a plane
going down.

HankG





Bearcat210xlt December 14th 07 11:57 PM

Longest distance for Scanner Reception
 
On Dec 14, 6:35 pm, "HankG" wrote:
"xx" wrote in message

...







"Kilgore Trout Jr." wrote in message
news:_ok7j.15778$OR.9686@trnddc01...
Wait for sun spot max, you'll get lots of sporadic e, I've heard
transmissions from england & ireland on the vhf low band!


When's the next sun spot max?


We are at the very bottom of the solar sunspot cycle right now.
Long distance HF radio communications should improve steadily for the

next
four years or so. You can check on the current solar conditions he
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/
Keep in mind that most of the frequency bands found on a typical scanner

are
too high to be greatly affected by the solar cycle.


During the second world war, I understand that American amateurs (or
possibly CB) were picking up German inter-tank communications from North
Africa on the 27Mcs band and were relaying information back to the allied
troops in N. Africa.


I was around during the big war and remember going into my neighbor's house.
They had this big Zenith floor model which had a shortwave band. I remember
hearing 'action' in English (must have been our's). Sounded like a plane
going down.

HankG



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I live in the New Brunswick area, and my Bearcat 210Xlt has picked up
transmissions from Quebec! (Or so I assume, for whoever is talking
speaks french.) Thats around 800 km!

Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire December 15th 07 12:41 AM

Longest distance for Scanner Reception
 
a écrit dans le message de news:

Sure, but wouldn't 'FM Mode' negate some of the skip pattern?


AM - FM - SSB - CW, what ever has no effect on the skip (propagation)
conditions. WE, our radio club receive "skip" on our FM ham repeater which
is in the 147 MHz band. The usual skip comes from 500 miles away from
another ham repeater.

Longest scanner reception would depend on several conditions, the antenna,
it's height, your elevation, propagation conditions, coax line loss, antenna
signal amplifier, just a few of the major items to think about.



Ok. I thought that they way that they signal was modulated
had an affect on the general overall range, all things considered
with AM working out more favorably with skip because it's a simpler
type of radiation. But come to think of it, when the US Govmnt
was doing below-ground nucleor tests in Nevada, we could pick
up tv channel's from 1000 miles away.
--
"...To build may have to be the slow and
laborious task of years. To destroy can be
the thoughtless act of a single day.."

Sir Winston Churchill

And, 500,000 Patagonian Pygmies nod their heads
in total agreement.
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7

Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire December 15th 07 12:42 AM

Longest distance for Scanner Reception
 
a écrit dans le message de news:
On Dec 14, 6:35 pm, "HankG" wrote:
"xx" wrote in message

...







"Kilgore Trout Jr." wrote in message
news:_ok7j.15778$OR.9686@trnddc01...
Wait for sun spot max, you'll get lots of sporadic e, I've heard
transmissions from england & ireland on the vhf low band!


When's the next sun spot max?


We are at the very bottom of the solar sunspot cycle right now.
Long distance HF radio communications should improve steadily for the

next
four years or so. You can check on the current solar conditions he
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/
Keep in mind that most of the frequency bands found on a typical scanner
are
too high to be greatly affected by the solar cycle.


During the second world war, I understand that American amateurs (or
possibly CB) were picking up German inter-tank communications from North
Africa on the 27Mcs band and were relaying information back to the allied
troops in N. Africa.


I was around during the big war and remember going into my neighbor's house.
They had this big Zenith floor model which had a shortwave band. I remember
hearing 'action' in English (must have been our's). Sounded like a plane
going down.

HankG



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- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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I live in the New Brunswick area, and my Bearcat 210Xlt has picked up
transmissions from Quebec! (Or so I assume, for whoever is talking
speaks french.) Thats around 800 km!

I could pick up CHIPS and Mexican Military on my Bearcat
when I was in Dallas. This must have been around the mid
90's. Of course, back then, with the solar flare-up waning
off, you could still pick up CHIPS (california highway
patrol) who inccidently transmits on FM or I woulnd't have
been able to recieve them.
--
"...To build may have to be the slow and
laborious task of years. To destroy can be
the thoughtless act of a single day.."

Sir Winston Churchill

And, 500,000 Patagonian Pygmies nod their heads
in total agreement.
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7

Bearcat210xlt December 16th 07 03:25 PM

Longest distance for Scanner Reception
 
On Dec 14, 8:42 pm, Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire
wrote:
a écrit dans le message de news:



On Dec 14, 6:35 pm, "HankG" wrote:
"xx" wrote in message


...


"Kilgore Trout Jr." wrote in message
news:_ok7j.15778$OR.9686@trnddc01...
Wait for sun spot max, you'll get lots of sporadic e, I've heard
transmissions from england & ireland on the vhf low band!


When's the next sun spot max?


We are at the very bottom of the solar sunspot cycle right now.
Long distance HF radio communications should improve steadily for the
next
four years or so. You can check on the current solar conditions he
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/
Keep in mind that most of the frequency bands found on a typical scanner
are
too high to be greatly affected by the solar cycle.


During the second world war, I understand that American amateurs (or
possibly CB) were picking up German inter-tank communications from North
Africa on the 27Mcs band and were relaying information back to the allied
troops in N. Africa.


I was around during the big war and remember going into my neighbor's house.
They had this big Zenith floor model which had a shortwave band. I remember
hearing 'action' in English (must have been our's). Sounded like a plane
going down.


HankG


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I live in the New Brunswick area, and my Bearcat 210Xlt has picked up
transmissions from Quebec! (Or so I assume, for whoever is talking
speaks french.) Thats around 800 km!


I could pick up CHIPS and Mexican Military on my Bearcat
when I was in Dallas. This must have been around the mid
90's. Of course, back then, with the solar flare-up waning
off, you could still pick up CHIPS (california highway
patrol) who inccidently transmits on FM or I woulnd't have
been able to recieve them.
--
"...To build may have to be the slow and
laborious task of years. To destroy can be
the thoughtless act of a single day.."

Sir Winston Churchill

And, 500,000 Patagonian Pygmies nod their heads
in total agreement.http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7http://tiny...rl.com/2b2bk7- Hide quoted text -

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The problem is, i'm using the two-foot long telescoping antenna that
came with the radio, so it wouldn't have been possible to pick up
transmissions from no more than a couple hundred miles!

Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire December 16th 07 11:32 PM

Longest distance for Scanner Reception
 
a écrit dans le message de news:
On Dec 14, 8:42 pm, Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire
wrote:
a écrit dans le message de news:



On Dec 14, 6:35 pm, "HankG" wrote:
"xx" wrote in message


...


"Kilgore Trout Jr." wrote in message
news:_ok7j.15778$OR.9686@trnddc01...
Wait for sun spot max, you'll get lots of sporadic e, I've heard
transmissions from england & ireland on the vhf low band!


When's the next sun spot max?


We are at the very bottom of the solar sunspot cycle right now.
Long distance HF radio communications should improve steadily for the
next
four years or so. You can check on the current solar conditions he
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/
Keep in mind that most of the frequency bands found on a typical scanner
are
too high to be greatly affected by the solar cycle.


During the second world war, I understand that American amateurs (or
possibly CB) were picking up German inter-tank communications from North
Africa on the 27Mcs band and were relaying information back to the allied
troops in N. Africa.


I was around during the big war and remember going into my neighbor's house.
They had this big Zenith floor model which had a shortwave band. I remember
hearing 'action' in English (must have been our's). Sounded like a plane
going down.


HankG


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- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I live in the New Brunswick area, and my Bearcat 210Xlt has picked up
transmissions from Quebec! (Or so I assume, for whoever is talking
speaks french.) Thats around 800 km!


I could pick up CHIPS and Mexican Military on my Bearcat
when I was in Dallas. This must have been around the mid
90's. Of course, back then, with the solar flare-up waning
off, you could still pick up CHIPS (california highway
patrol) who inccidently transmits on FM or I woulnd't have
been able to recieve them.
--
"...To build may have to be the slow and
laborious task of years. To destroy can be
the thoughtless act of a single day.."

Sir Winston Churchill

And, 500,000 Patagonian Pygmies nod their heads
in total agreement.http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7http://tiny...rl.com/2b2bk7- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The problem is, i'm using the two-foot long telescoping antenna that
came with the radio, so it wouldn't have been possible to pick up
transmissions from no more than a couple hundred miles!

It *could*. I've hooked up my old Starlite Shortwave
radio to a magnetic mount CB antenna and could pickup
stations in Africa. just depends on how strong the
signal is and the conditions?
--
"...To build may have to be the slow and
laborious task of years. To destroy can be
the thoughtless act of a single day.."

Sir Winston Churchill

And, 500,000 Patagonian Pygmies nod their heads
in total agreement.
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7
http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7

David[_5_] December 17th 07 01:24 AM

Longest distance for Scanner Reception
 
Bearcat210xlt wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:42 pm, Scott W phony scientist extraordinaire
wrote:
a écrit dans le message de news:



On Dec 14, 6:35 pm, "HankG" wrote:
"xx" wrote in message
...
"Kilgore Trout Jr." wrote in message
news:_ok7j.15778$OR.9686@trnddc01...
Wait for sun spot max, you'll get lots of sporadic e, I've heard
transmissions from england & ireland on the vhf low band!
When's the next sun spot max?
We are at the very bottom of the solar sunspot cycle right now.
Long distance HF radio communications should improve steadily for the
next
four years or so. You can check on the current solar conditions he
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/
Keep in mind that most of the frequency bands found on a typical scanner
are
too high to be greatly affected by the solar cycle.
During the second world war, I understand that American amateurs (or
possibly CB) were picking up German inter-tank communications from North
Africa on the 27Mcs band and were relaying information back to the allied
troops in N. Africa.
I was around during the big war and remember going into my neighbor's house.
They had this big Zenith floor model which had a shortwave band. I remember
hearing 'action' in English (must have been our's). Sounded like a plane
going down.
HankG
- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I live in the New Brunswick area, and my Bearcat 210Xlt has picked up
transmissions from Quebec! (Or so I assume, for whoever is talking
speaks french.) Thats around 800 km!

I could pick up CHIPS and Mexican Military on my Bearcat
when I was in Dallas. This must have been around the mid
90's. Of course, back then, with the solar flare-up waning
off, you could still pick up CHIPS (california highway
patrol) who inccidently transmits on FM or I woulnd't have
been able to recieve them.
--
"...To build may have to be the slow and
laborious task of years. To destroy can be
the thoughtless act of a single day.."

Sir Winston Churchill

And, 500,000 Patagonian Pygmies nod their heads
in total agreement.http://tinyurl.com/2b2bk7http://tiny...rl.com/2b2bk7- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The problem is, i'm using the two-foot long telescoping antenna that
came with the radio, so it wouldn't have been possible to pick up
transmissions from no more than a couple hundred miles!


Not necessarily.


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