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ad1958 July 14th 03 10:31 PM

Nextel and Nascar monitoring
 
Chicago Suburban newspaper has article in the sports section today July
15, that Nextel "may have something to say in monitoring those
communications between drivers and the pit crew. After all, that is their
business." This communication does not go through cellular frequencies,
isn't Nextel overstepping the law?



Robert July 15th 03 06:42 PM


"Keith" wrote

You have no right to monitor private communications and systems.


Bwahahahaha!!! When Ray Evernham keys up his little box from
Atlanta, his expectation of privacy is precisely ZERO. They want privacy,
they can buy it just like anybody else.





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Robert July 17th 03 11:13 PM


"Keith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:42:37 -0400, "Robert" wrote:

Bwahahahaha!!! When Ray Evernham keys up his little box from
Atlanta, his expectation of privacy is precisely ZERO. They want privacy,
they can buy it just like anybody else.


Don't worry, Nextel is going to fix it so no one can monitor unless they

pay
for it.


Hey, they can do whatever they want.

The company or corporation may not have privacy on a analog system, it
depends on the State or Federal Law,


Most places you can _listen_ all you want.

but they still have the powerful tool of
copyright and those that violate that copyright, such as broadcasting it

on the
Internet, are subject to criminal and/or civil liability.


But that ain't Nextel holding the copyright, it's NASCAR and the
teams, unless NASCAR's made some sort of blanket deal with Nextel.

Here in Oregon the State law clearly states monitoring such transmissions

is a
crime.


What "such transmissions"?




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Ralph July 19th 03 12:11 AM

What about the cars sponsored by Cingular or Sprint etc?
I think digital is no good anyhow for this. Who wants to convert to digital
only to be converted back to analog.
I think the delays introduced by the conversion stink. Some are better than
others but Nextel seems to be one of the bad ones.

I still have an analog only cell phone and the audio quality beats the hell
outta any digital I have heard yet. The digital is great for getting more
signals in the same bandwidth and conserving battery life but when split
seconds count real time is the only time.
JMO,

Ralph



Robert July 19th 03 11:57 AM


"Ralph" wrote in message
...

What about the cars sponsored by Cingular or Sprint etc?


As a general rule, sponsors aren't going to have much input into the
day-to-day business of the team. However, along the lines you're thinking,
Motorola as a primary sponsor over in CART led to the team using Motorola
headphones (and presumably Motorola radios). Still, for them to gain
copyright on anything the team does, there's going to have to be an
agreement. First, in the USA, copyright defaults to the author (this post is
copyrighted and protected, and I need do nothing to cause that to happen -
likewise the spoken word, etc.) Second, in this day of marketing, drivers,
owners, etc. are copyrighting and trademarking left and right, everything
you can think of, as is NASCAR. The transmissions are copyrighted, according
to the NASCAR website. (And you can buy 'em, if you wish.)
Supposing I'm typing this on a Dell computer, using Windows
software. Even if I do nothing, neither Dell, nor Windows, (nor any other
enabling party) can step in and claim copyright to what I write using their
equipment/systems; Nextel can't claim a copyright on something transmitted
over their equipment.




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dxlover July 25th 03 03:07 AM

The digital is great for getting more
signals in the same bandwidth and conserving battery life but when split
seconds count real time is the only time.
JMO,


Your opinion is right though Ralph. ;-)

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