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GeorgeF August 19th 03 04:27 PM



N8KDV wrote:

I could give a rip about your website George or Billy8156 or pilotjoeturner...
whomever you are at the moment.



Steve Lare can't even answer a simple yes or no question without
rambling.....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com





N8KDV August 19th 03 07:13 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

I could give a rip about your website George or Billy8156 or pilotjoeturner...
whomever you are at the moment.


Steve Lare can't even answer a simple yes or no question without
rambling.....


What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156 messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.

The April 19 post almost seems like an advertisement for George and some product he
might be offering in itself, but why would Billy be looking for you on April 19,
when he already knows you based on the April 18 post?

Very clever that George (Billie8156) Fetter.

LMAO....



George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



Dave Holford August 19th 03 08:01 PM

Good Grief Guys, Here are the basic essentials:



USAF HIGH FREQUENCY GLOBAL COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM (HF-GCS)

A worldwide network of 15 high-powered HF stations providing global
command and control for the US military. HF-GCS provides:
Phone patches and message relay
HF data support
Broadcasts - includes EAM (Emergency Action Messages)
etc.

Frequencies currently used a
4724, 6712, 6739, 8992, 11175, 13200, 15016.
((8992 and 11175 tend to be most active))

Ground stations in the system a
Andrews, Ascension, Croughton, Diego Garcia, Elemndorf, Guam, Hawaii,
Keflavik, Lajes, McClellan, Offutt, Puerto Rico, Sigonella, Thule,
Yokota.

Ground stations have additional 'discrete' frequencies which may be used
as required.

Not all stations use all frequencies, and this is a few months old so
some changes may have been made but it is the essentials -

- without having to sort though pages of other stuff.


There is also a group of ALE (Automatic Link Establishment) frequencies
but in order to keep it simple I've just included the basics.


Dave

GeorgeF August 19th 03 08:53 PM



N8KDV wrote:

What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156

messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when

on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.


Steve, ever year of "affiliate marketing techniques"? I guess not.
Bill is an affiliate of my program, just like about 1200 other people
who advertise it as well. The funny thing is that you keep repeating
the link here which creates more sales for me but you don't get any
commission. Now if you were an affiliate you would have received 50% of
each sale....You makeith laugh...

You just like digging up dirt where there's only concrete....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholealer.com
http://www.Licensed4Fun.com
Since Steven likes personally attacking my websites I'll just display
more in my Sig File....I'll keep it clean here and won't post my adult
websites I run....



N8KDV August 19th 03 10:19 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156

messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when

on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.


Steve, ever year of "affiliate marketing techniques"? I guess not.
Bill is an affiliate of my program, just like about 1200 other people
who advertise it as well. The funny thing is that you keep repeating
the link here which creates more sales for me but you don't get any
commission. Now if you were an affiliate you would have received 50% of
each sale....You makeith laugh...

You just like digging up dirt where there's only concrete....


You've got quite the imagination Billy....



George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholealer.com
http://www.Licensed4Fun.com
Since Steven likes personally attacking my websites I'll just display
more in my Sig File....I'll keep it clean here and won't post my adult
websites I run....



N8KDV August 19th 03 10:23 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156 messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.


Steve, ever year of "affiliate marketing techniques"? I guess not.
Bill is an affiliate of my program, just like about 1200 other people
who advertise it as well. The funny thing is that you keep repeating
the link here which creates more sales for me but you don't get any
commission. Now if you were an affiliate you would have received 50% of
each sale....You makeith laugh...


You 'makeith' me laugh too Billy. LMAO



You just like digging up dirt where there's only concrete....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholealer.com
http://www.Licensed4Fun.com
Since Steven likes personally attacking my websites I'll just display
more in my Sig File....I'll keep it clean here and won't post my adult
websites I run....



N8KDV August 19th 03 10:39 PM



GeorgeF wrote:


Notice please the website address at the end of the posts which contains the
'licensed4fun' .

It's George himself!



Just drop off the ebay.htm at the end of the address, and you'll go right to
George's selling site....

I just can't stop laughing....


Well you can stop laughing because Bill lives down the street from
me....He does his own thing, I do mine..... in fact I'm the one who
inteurduced Bill to computers. And yes he used mine to make many posts
until he got his own.


Sure George.... keep telling yourself that, you'll come to actually believe it...
if you don't already. Say, did you 'inteurduce' Billy to the prostitutes, or did
he 'inteurduce' you to them?

It sure is funny George that Billy8156 and pilotjoeturner share your mis-spelling.
Also, I've found some Billy8156 posts where he says exactly the same things you
do... sure is strange George. LMAO



Hell if weren’t for me we would have lost another scanning hobbiest due
to being snubbed buy the experts….

BTW your google search would have turned this up as well as its already
been hashed out sometime ago…..

But Steve thanks for your reposting the tag lines that were on my
computer when Bill made his posts. All the extra advertising helps.
But you forgot my other website, since you’re into rebroadcasting tag
lines don’t forget http://www.AuctionWholesaler.com

I love how people like overlook good information and rather dwell on
personal attacks….There are some experts on that subject right here on
this groups.

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



N8KDV August 19th 03 11:08 PM



GeorgeF wrote:


You will find this is somewhat out-of-date. Note the copyright date is
2001.

GHFS is no more - the WUN site will give you the current data.

http://www.wunclub.com/newsletter/v09/n07/mla.html


The name has changed however for the most part the frequencies, call
signs, descriptions are correct.

Howeve beware the WUN newsletter is put together by one Larry VanHorn.
When I see that name attached to anything I now take it with a grain of
salt. Why you may ask? Here's why:

1) Recently the magazine he's involved with published over 4 pages of
Florida State Astro freqs. NONE of which were useful as they were
incorrect. Dummy me bought an issue and should request a refund as that
was the only reason I bought the issue.

2) The NASA Trunking system list he and his group published were incorrect
for over a year. I see he's finally fixed them after I've been calling
everyones attention to it for several months.

3) The Military Trunking frequencies he and his group published for the
MacDill AFB are silent, I'll bet they're incorrect as well.

4) Descriptions/Labels he used for various frequencies in FL are
incorrect and in some cases missleading.

The above are just want I was looking at and able to confirm. Just one
state out of 50, I'm sure Florida isn't the only state he has published
incorrect infomation for.

Now lets see how fast I get more hate mail from the F.O.G. group.
(Friends of Grove - membership = 3).

I run my website for one thing and one thing only. To help others in
the hobby. I do not charge for the info, I give it away for free.
However Grove will charge you $30-$40 for a CD which contains over 80%
out dated PDF files he downloaded from Gov't sites. Files which are
available to the public for free and are NOT copyrightable. Again, I
run my website (www.MilAirComms.com) to help others gain information,
frequencies, and help in the fine hobby of MilAir monitoring. I guess I
got sick and tired of asking questions which went unanswered by the so
called experts. I was tired of newbee's trying to get into the hobby
who asked questions only to be receive snid comments from the F.O.G group.

So if you like the website that is great. If you don't like the website
that is no skin off my ass either. I know that by the 100's of emails I
receive weekly from the website that there are a lot of people who are
being helped by it. And with an average of 3,000 UNIQUE visitors (ie:
different IP addresss, not file hits) daily is yet another indicator
that there's a more than a few people who like it. Not too bad
considering everything time one of the F.O.G. guys gets a chance he'll
make derogotory comments and in several cases out right lies (backed up
the MilCom archives themselves!) about me or the site.

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com


Let's see George... you also post to the MilCom list as Billy Williams
.... the IP address fits, and don't give me the crap that
Billy lives just down the road from you either, that's why it matches crap.



[email protected] August 19th 03 11:30 PM

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:22:56 -0400, N8KDV in rec.radio.scanner - :



I think that if one does a Google search in the groups for "Billy8156"
they'll find what looks like a strange symbiotic relationship with
George...

It's actually quite funny...

It would appear that Billy8156 is indeed George the shameless
self-promoter himself... LMAO

Look closely at the posts by Billy8156 that also contain the following:


Looking for good incall or outcall in the Daytona or surrounding areas.
Bill




LMAO, I googled him and just wasn't sure. I suspected so, but
I don't doubt it. Hahahaha.


[email protected] August 19th 03 11:31 PM

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:52:30 -0400, N8KDV in rec.radio.scanner - :


Here's another one from 4/18/2001 back when George W. (Billy8156) Fetter was
obviously still living in Pennsylvania:

Anyone know of any good OutCall Service Providers in the South Eastern PA area
from Harrisburg to Philladelphia? Or look locations to view streetwalkers?



Bahaahah, nice work. I love when the kooks break out their
socks and accuse everyone else of the **** they themselves are doing.

LMFAO



[email protected] August 19th 03 11:33 PM

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:51:29 -0400, GeorgeF in rec.radio.scanner -
om :



Notice please the website address at the end of the posts which contains the
'licensed4fun' .

It's George himself!



Just drop off the ebay.htm at the end of the address, and you'll go right to
George's selling site....

I just can't stop laughing....



Well you can stop laughing because Bill lives down the street from
me....He does his own thing, I do mine..... in fact I'm the one who
inteurduced Bill to computers. And yes he used mine to make many posts
until he got his own.

Hell if weren’t for me we would have lost another scanning hobbiest due
to being snubbed buy the experts….

BTW your google search would have turned this up as well as its already
been hashed out sometime ago…..

But Steve thanks for your reposting the tag lines that were on my
computer when Bill made his posts. All the extra advertising helps.
But you forgot my other website, since you’re into rebroadcasting tag
lines don’t forget http://www.AuctonWholesaler.com

I love how people like overlook good information and rather dwell on
personal attacks….There are some experts on that subject right here on
this groups.

George
http://www.MilirComms.com





Hahaha, I remember you now. The $5000 a week ebay guy.

Some people.


[email protected] August 19th 03 11:36 PM

On 19 Aug 2003 14:32:01 GMT, (Pilotjoeturner) in rec.radio.scanner - :

I usually do not get involved in these things but if you have looked most
postings and emails I have seen have speelling mistakes. That is just the
nature of non typiests using a keyboard.

Watch out of the black helos steve.



Oh my. LMAO


[email protected] August 19th 03 11:39 PM

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:58:54 -0400, GeorgeF in rec.radio.scanner -
om :



Pilotjoeturner wrote:
Sorry but George has a good website. Very easy to navagate. Much easier than
any of the others mentioned. If it weren't for his a lot of what i find
during searches would go unidentified. It would be more helpful if people
stopped attack others works. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking down their
websites because it seems like no one appreciates it when others try to help.

This is very sad especially for us who rely on websites for our scanning
information.

As Roddy King said "can't we just get along?".



Ya I'm tired of the personal attacks, lies and everything else that goes
along with the internet. If you noticed I've since stop posting my
military logs cause I was tired of attacks and then finding info in the
logs appearing in Larry's publications. Pretty much the Milcom list is
just a frequency/log collect for Monitoring Times.

Maybe I'll start posting logging again but I just don't know.

STEVE LA Its clear you don't like my website so here you go, would
you like me to take it down? yes or no. Pretty simple. If you wish
I'll take it down. But before you answer you might want to consider
what inforamtion I could put in its place... ;)

George
http://www.MilAirComs.com



See ya, don't let the door hit ya in the ass.
Maybe you should use your bandwidth for some good this
time...errr...nah, just another $5000 per week internet scam
in it's place I'm sure.





N8KDV August 19th 03 11:48 PM



wrote:

On 19 Aug 2003 06:02:04 -0700,
(Billy) in rec.radio.scanner - :

Plus 'Edna' at least I use my real name and address on the groups,
nothing here to hide.....


Edna I too am here in Florida. I have tried may times to polity ask
where one can get information on milair frequencies. And I too have
been snubbed. **** I live only a few miles from the one of the biggest
milair monitors in Florida and all I get from him is rude comments
anytime I ask a question.


I'm honestly not sure I even want to start with you, considering this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain
but hey, what the hell.

If it weren't for George I would have never gotten any help. He has
also taken the time to teach me out he finds frequencies in the
government sources. And thanks to that I have several scanners that
activity monitor milair. You mention all these great email lists.
If they're so great then why don't you share them so others can enjoy?
I would like to know where I can get more information.


Are you serious? I don't know where you think you got snubbed. Browsing
Google and you. It looks like you got some help here.


Why are all the old time monitors in the milair hobby grouchy old
pricks? Then they hide behind fake names and email address here
because they don't want us to know who they are.


If you want to broadcast your name and address all over the internet, have at it.
I don't and never will. Lots of hams have posted against your buddy with their call signs.


Indeed, Billy8156 and GeorgeF are very good buddies. They are extremely close to one another. LMAO


What is the big deal here, I know about as much as you from your freaking
hotmail address as you do from my fake nym. Some people.


Almost forgot, George was right about the Grove CD's. I bought both
the Military and the Federal frequency ones. Nothing by crap. The
military one has copies of the same GOVERNMENT docs George uses for
his website. The only different is Grove's copies are several years
outdated. The Federal CD was a total waste. No lists for individual
areas, nothing! Just more outdated governemnt PDF files. Yea, I too
have bought stuff from Grove and none of it panned out.


I bought a Spectrum CD database once, and think it sucks. I never
started a crusade against them because of it.
Every bit of info you need is in google, and I'm sure you already know it.


Keep up the good work George. Just remember thank you's are usually
spoken softly. It's the bitchers who yell at the top of their lungs
while hiding behind fake names and addresses.

Bill


Sock?



GeorgeF August 20th 03 01:01 AM



wrote:

Edna_Rimby, looks like your one of the number #1 posters on the
alt.swinger board. Ya, I know how to use a google usenet search too.
So you do just swing with your wife? Are you into full swaping? Or are
you gay? Which form of swing are you into. I didn't feel looking at
the 114 posts you made to the swinger group. Or I know, you swing with
Steve out there in Ohio (or is that HOIo).....

But one post did stick out which you replyed to, the subject:
"Two skanky Ho's looking for action in Florida" Then you mentioned
"kids".... I bet if I look at the Pedophile website I'll see your
picture.....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



N8KDV August 20th 03 02:28 AM



GeorgeF wrote:

wrote:

Edna_Rimby, looks like your one of the number #1 posters on the
alt.swinger board. Ya, I know how to use a google usenet search too.
So you do just swing with your wife? Are you into full swaping? Or are
you gay? Which form of swing are you into. I didn't feel looking at
the 114 posts you made to the swinger group. Or I know, you swing with
Steve out there in Ohio (or is that HOIo).....


Sorry George, it's Michigan.



But one post did stick out which you replyed to, the subject:
"Two skanky Ho's looking for action in Florida" Then you mentioned
"kids".... I bet if I look at the Pedophile website I'll see your
picture.....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com


[email protected] August 20th 03 02:44 AM

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:01:58 -0400, GeorgeF in rec.radio.scanner -
om :



wrote:

Edna_Rimby, looks like your one of the number #1 posters on the
alt.swinger board. Ya, I know how to use a google usenet search too.
So you do just swing with your wife? Are you into full swaping? Or are
you gay? Which form of swing are you into. I didn't feel looking at
the 114 posts you made to the swinger group. Or I know, you swing with
Steve out there in Ohio (or is that HOIo).....

But one post did stick out which you replyed to, the subject:
"Two skanky Ho's looking for action in Florida" Then you mentioned
"kids".... I bet if I look at the Pedophile website I'll see your
picture.....

George
http://www.MilAiComms.com



Your Google skills are as impressive as your monitoring skills!! Hahaha

For godsakes man, you didn't even provide a link or some juicy quotes
like I did for your sockpuppet!

Don't worry, you won't find any of my personal info on any of the pedophile
web sites you run georgie. I'm quite safe from an loser like you outing me.
You on the other hand have some very dirty hands. Perhaps we will become
more acquainted in the future.





N8KDV August 20th 03 03:42 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

Pilotjoeturner wrote:
Sorry but George has a good website. Very easy to navagate. Much easier than
any of the others mentioned. If it weren't for his a lot of what i find
during searches would go unidentified. It would be more helpful if people
stopped attack others works. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking down their
websites because it seems like no one appreciates it when others try to help.

This is very sad especially for us who rely on websites for our scanning
information.

As Roddy King said "can't we just get along?".



Ya I'm tired of the personal attacks, lies and everything else that goes
along with the internet. If you noticed I've since stop posting my
military logs cause I was tired of attacks and then finding info in the
logs appearing in Larry's publications. Pretty much the Milcom list is
just a frequency/log collect for Monitoring Times.

Maybe I'll start posting logging again but I just don't know.


Poor George, on the pity pot. You just go ahead and post your little logging.



STEVE LA Its clear you don't like my website so here you go, would
you like me to take it down? yes or no. Pretty simple. If you wish
I'll take it down. But before you answer you might want to consider
what inforamtion I could put in its place... ;)

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



N8KDV August 20th 03 03:57 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

Pilotjoeturner wrote:
Sorry but George has a good website. Very easy to navagate. Much easier than
any of the others mentioned. If it weren't for his a lot of what i find
during searches would go unidentified. It would be more helpful if people
stopped attack others works. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking down their
websites because it seems like no one appreciates it when others try to help.

This is very sad especially for us who rely on websites for our scanning
information.

As Roddy King said "can't we just get along?".



Ya I'm tired of the personal attacks, lies and everything else that goes
along with the internet. If you noticed I've since stop posting my
military logs cause I was tired of attacks and then finding info in the
logs appearing in Larry's publications. Pretty much the Milcom list is
just a frequency/log collect for Monitoring Times.

Maybe I'll start posting logging again but I just don't know.

STEVE LA Its clear you don't like my website so here you go, would
you like me to take it down? yes or no. Pretty simple. If you wish
I'll take it down. But before you answer you might want to consider
what inforamtion I could put in its place... ;)


Take it down for all I care George, take down ALL your websites including the porn
sites you claim to have. Post all the 'inforamtion' you want. LMAO



George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



N8KDV August 20th 03 06:51 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156 messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.


Steve, ever year of "affiliate marketing techniques"?


Yes George, I've 'yeard' of them. LMAO

I guess not.
Bill is an affiliate of my program, just like about 1200 other people
who advertise it as well. The funny thing is that you keep repeating
the link here which creates more sales for me but you don't get any
commission. Now if you were an affiliate you would have received 50% of
each sale....You makeith laugh...

You just like digging up dirt where there's only concrete....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholealer.com
http://www.Licensed4Fun.com
Since Steven likes personally attacking my websites I'll just display
more in my Sig File....I'll keep it clean here and won't post my adult
websites I run....



N8KDV August 20th 03 07:17 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156

messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when

on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.


Steve, ever year of "affiliate marketing techniques"? I guess not.
Bill is an affiliate of my program, just like about 1200 other people
who advertise it as well. The funny thing is that you keep repeating
the link here which creates more sales for me but you don't get any
commission.


Yes George, I'm sure that the customers are just lining up and can't wait to
get their hands on a Top Secret UFO Drivers License! ROTFLMAO

http://www.licensed4fun.com/adgenexamples/sample2.htm


Now if you were an affiliate you would have received 50% of
each sale....You makeith laugh...

You just like digging up dirt where there's only concrete....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholealer.com
http://www.Licensed4Fun.com
Since Steven likes personally attacking my websites I'll just display
more in my Sig File....I'll keep it clean here and won't post my adult
websites I run....



N8KDV August 20th 03 07:49 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156

messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when

on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.


Steve, ever year of "affiliate marketing techniques"? I guess not.
Bill is an affiliate of my program, just like about 1200 other people
who advertise it as well. The funny thing is that you keep repeating
the link here which creates more sales for me but you don't get any
commission. Now if you were an affiliate you would have received 50% of
each sale....You makeith laugh...

You just like digging up dirt where there's only concrete....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com


http://www.AuctionWholealer.com


If you're looking to get any business on the above site George you'd better
learn how to spell Wholesaler! LMAO




http://www.Licensed4Fun.com
Since Steven likes personally attacking my websites I'll just display
more in my Sig File....I'll keep it clean here and won't post my adult
websites I run....



Tom Whjite August 20th 03 07:49 PM


"GeorgeF" wrote in message
news:3F419D57.4090509@licensed4funREMOVEBEFOREFLIG HT.com...

Stick the NG Floods up your ass as it wasn't me, look at the IP
addresses and NG servers dumeass.



Nice talk George. How many folks are you going to run off with your antics
this month?









N8KDV August 20th 03 10:56 PM





GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

What I find interesting George, is that in reading the Billy8156

messages I found
one posted on April 19, 2001 actually looking for George Fetter, when

on April 18,
2001, Billy8156 has your ad for the eBay thing at the bottom.


Steve, ever year of "affiliate marketing techniques"? I guess not.
Bill is an affiliate of my program, just like about 1200 other people
who advertise it as well. The funny thing is that you keep repeating
the link here which creates more sales for me but you don't get any
commission.


Yes George, I'm sure that the customers are just lining up and can't wait to
get their hands on a Top Secret UFO Drivers License! ROTFLMAO

http://www.licensed4fun.com/adgenexamples/sample2.htm


And of course, here is another Licensed4Fun goodie, the Photo Drivers License
For Your Pet:

http://www.licensed4fun.com/dog1.htm

Boy oh boy! I'll bet those just sold like hotcakes George, it's to bad they are
no longer available... I'd sure like to be makin' that big commission on those!
LMAO



Now if you were an affiliate you would have received 50% of
each sale....You makeith laugh...

You just like digging up dirt where there's only concrete....

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholesaler.com


And lookie George, I corrected your spelling on Wholesaler! LMAO Now the orders
will be rollin' in!


http://www.Licensed4Fun.com
Since Steven likes personally attacking my websites I'll just display
more in my Sig File....I'll keep it clean here and won't post my adult
websites I run....



N8KDV August 21st 03 07:33 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

Pilotjoeturner wrote:
Sorry but George has a good website. Very easy to navagate. Much easier than
any of the others mentioned. If it weren't for his a lot of what i find
during searches would go unidentified. It would be more helpful if people
stopped attack others works. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking down their
websites because it seems like no one appreciates it when others try to help.

This is very sad especially for us who rely on websites for our scanning
information.

As Roddy King said "can't we just get along?".



Ya I'm tired of the personal attacks, lies and everything else that goes
along with the internet. If you noticed I've since stop posting my
military logs cause I was tired of attacks and then finding info in the
logs appearing in Larry's publications. Pretty much the Milcom list is
just a frequency/log collect for Monitoring Times.

Maybe I'll start posting logging again but I just don't know.

STEVE LA Its clear you don't like my website so here you go, would
you like me to take it down? yes or no. Pretty simple. If you wish
I'll take it down. But before you answer you might want to consider
what inforamtion I could put in its place... ;


Take it down George... or are you just making empty threats as usual? Post all the
'inforamtion' you wish! LMAO



George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



N8KDV August 21st 03 07:41 PM



GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

I could give a rip about your website George or Billy8156 or pilotjoeturner...
whomever you are at the moment.


Steve Lare can't even answer a simple yes or no question without
rambling.....


I answered yes George. You can't even back up your petty threats. LMAO



George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



Jim Hackett August 22nd 03 02:19 AM

It takes 2 people to argue!



"Pilotjoeturner" wrote in message
...
Sorry but George has a good website. Very easy to navagate. Much easier

than
any of the others mentioned. If it weren't for his a lot of what i find
during searches would go unidentified. It would be more helpful if

people
stopped attack others works. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking down

their
websites because it seems like no one appreciates it when others try to

help.

This is very sad especially for us who rely on websites for our scanning
information.

As Roddy King said "can't we just get along?".





Dwayne August 22nd 03 02:38 AM

In article . net,
says...
It takes 2 people to argue!

Yes but it takes one moron to start it.
--
Dwayne
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BC895/

Tom Whjite August 22nd 03 06:50 PM


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


GeorgeF wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

I could give a rip about your website George or Billy8156 or

pilotjoeturner...
whomever you are at the moment.


Steve Lare can't even answer a simple yes or no question without
rambling.....


I answered yes George. You can't even back up your petty threats. LMAO



George Fetter the Porn Site King has to threaten to sue you first.





Tom



J.C. Jones September 23rd 03 05:56 PM

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:16:35 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:51:46 -0400, GeorgeF in rec.radio.scanner -
3F403132.3020705@licensed4funREMOVEBEFOREFLIGHT. com :



You will find this is somewhat out-of-date. Note the copyright date is
2001.

GHFS is no more - the WUN site will give you the current data.

http://www.wunclub.com/newsletter/v09/n07/mla.html


The name has changed however for the most part the frequencies, call
signs, descriptions are correct.








Howeve beware the WUN newsletter is put together by one Larry VanHorn.
When I see that name attached to anything I now take it with a grain of
salt. Why you may ask? Here's why:

1) Recently the magazine he's involved with published over 4 pages of
Florida State Astro freqs. NONE of which were useful as they were
incorrect. Dummy me bought an issue and should request a refund as that
was the only reason I bought the issue.

2) The NASA Trunking system list he and his group published were incorrect
for over a year. I see he's finally fixed them after I've been calling
everyones attention to it for several months.

3) The Military Trunking frequencies he and his group published for the
MacDill AFB are silent, I'll bet they're incorrect as well.

4) Descriptions/Labels he used for various frequencies in FL are
incorrect and in some cases missleading.

The above are just want I was looking at and able to confirm. Just one
state out of 50, I'm sure Florida isn't the only state he has published
incorrect infomation for.

Now lets see how fast I get more hate mail from the F.O.G. group.
(Friends of Grove - membership = 3).

I run my website for one thing and one thing only. To help others in
the hobby. I do not charge for the info, I give it away for free.
However Grove will charge you $30-$40 for a CD which contains over 80%
out dated PDF files he downloaded from Gov't sites. Files which are
available to the public for free and are NOT copyrightable. Again, I
run my website (www.MilAirComms.com) to help others gain information,
frequencies, and help in the fine hobby of MilAir monitoring. I guess I
got sick and tired of asking questions which went unanswered by the so
called experts. I was tired of newbee's trying to get into the hobby
who asked questions only to be receive snid comments from the F.O.G group.

So if you like the website that is great. If you don't like the website
that is no skin off my ass either. I know that by the 100's of emails I
receive weekly from the website that there are a lot of people who are
being helped by it. And with an average of 3,000 UNIQUE visitors (ie:
different IP addresss, not file hits) daily is yet another indicator
that there's a more than a few people who like it. Not too bad
considering everything time one of the F.O.G. guys gets a chance he'll
make derogotory comments and in several cases out right lies (backed up
the MilCom archives themselves!) about me or the site.



Goodness, what a rant. With the hatred you have displayed towards your
fellow radio enthusiasts, I predict you are probably responsible for the juvenile
floods we have been experiencing here.

100's of emails. Give me a break. Hahaha. 3,000 unique hits daily..hahaha

How many people in the world you reckon listen to millair...****, how many in this
group can even listen to milcom? I'll bet few here have 225-400am and less
even fewer 30mhz. Sheese.

Anyone wanting to enter the scene joins the appropriate mailing lists, like
where you suck any content we see on your site. Duh. Your posts here
prove you are green as hell, but 99% of the mil monitors are way to polite
to call your BS here and risk more NG floods.

Take your wishey washey site and lame attitude back to 11m loser boy, we
are tired of it.



Ouch!

Ken Bessler September 23rd 03 06:18 PM


J.C. Jones wrote in message
s.com...

snip major huge post

Ouch!


You quoted that whole huge post just to type 4 letters?

Idiot!



J.C. Jones September 23rd 03 07:07 PM

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:18:32 -0600, "Ken Bessler"
wrote:


J.C. Jones wrote in message
ws.com...

snip major huge post

Ouch!


You quoted that whole huge post just to type 4 letters?

Idiot!

---
Ouch again....fart knocker....what's the matter, didn't mommy tuck you
in last night?

J.C. Jones

Ken Bessler September 23rd 03 07:41 PM


J.C. Jones wrote in message
s.com...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:18:32 -0600, "Ken Bessler"
wrote:


J.C. Jones wrote in message
ws.com...

snip major huge post

Ouch!


You quoted that whole huge post just to type 4 letters?

Idiot!

---
Ouch again....fart knocker....what's the matter, didn't mommy tuck you
in last night?

J.C. Jones


Ah, another dip **** for my killfile..... PLOINK!



Rick Baker September 29th 03 02:12 AM

Howeve beware the WUN newsletter is put together by one Larry VanHorn.

Not correct. It's edited by Bill Lawrie. Larry Van Horn volunteers to
maintain
the Military Lists column, which is based on club member input from
around
the world. It's one of six regular monthly columns based on member
input.

Hope this helps.

Rick Baker




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