New ICOM IC-R20, disapointing...
 

I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no digital,
and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has not
already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

If you're considering buying one, hold off for awhile, as I'm sure you will
be seeing deep discounts when inventories don't move.

Bill Crocker

Good point Bill, regular scanners are a dime a dozen. I really don't care
that it can record. My experience with the wideband scanners is that they
are very slow at scanning. so that's probably the case with the R20. So just
what is the the chief selling point of the R20? I'll have to wait for the
reviews before I consider something like that.

Tim


"Bill Crocker" wrote in message
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I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no
digital,
and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has not
already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

If you're considering buying one, hold off for awhile, as I'm sure you
will
be seeing deep discounts when inventories don't move.

Bill Crocker

Sounds like it's going to follow in the Icom R-3 footsteps. The "R-3" doesnt
do much of ANYTHING well...with one exception. It's a terrific way to test
batteries for amphour ratings....Eddie
"Bill Crocker" wrote in message
...
I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no
digital,
and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has not
already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

If you're considering buying one, hold off for awhile, as I'm sure you
will
be seeing deep discounts when inventories don't move.

Bill Crocker

Bill Crocker wrote:
: I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no digital,
: and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has not
: already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

Why would you expect trunking and digital? It's not a scanner.

Richard in Boston, MA, USA

I didn't say it was a scanner. Everyone knows Icom can't build a
scanner...their scan is way to slow.

Bill Crocker


"Richard G Amirault" wrote in message
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Bill Crocker wrote:
: I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no
digital,
: and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has
not
: already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

Why would you expect trunking and digital? It's not a scanner.

Richard in Boston, MA, USA

That right. Icom, by their own admissions, make high end receivers. They
have no interest in competing with Uniden and Radio Shack.



"Bill Crocker" wrote in message
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I didn't say it was a scanner. Everyone knows Icom can't build a
scanner...their scan is way to slow.

Bill Crocker


"Richard G Amirault" wrote in message
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Bill Crocker wrote:
: I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no
digital,
: and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has
not
: already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

Why would you expect trunking and digital? It's not a scanner.

Richard in Boston, MA, USA

Is the scan rate the only thing that determines if it is a scanner or a
receiver?
It does scan but slowly.

Marvin


"Troy R." wrote in message
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That right. Icom, by their own admissions, make high end receivers. They
have no interest in competing with Uniden and Radio Shack.



"Bill Crocker" wrote in message
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I didn't say it was a scanner. Everyone knows Icom can't build a
scanner...their scan is way to slow.

Bill Crocker


"Richard G Amirault" wrote in message
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Bill Crocker wrote:
: I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no
digital,
: and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that
has
not
: already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

Why would you expect trunking and digital? It's not a scanner.

Richard in Boston, MA, USA

Marvin Moss wrote:
: Is the scan rate the only thing that determines if it is a scanner or a
: receiver?
: It does scan but slowly.


No ... a "communications receiver" generally has a wider frequency
coverage than a scanner. It may also have more modes of recption than just
FM.

Scanning is just an added feature, not the prime mode of recption as in a
scanner.

My Yaesu VR-500 will receive signals in the VHF and UHF TV band. Along
with TV sound (wide FM) many wireless mics are scattered in those freqs.
Also it will receive broadcast AM & FM stations, and shortwave stations. A
far cry from a 'normal' scanner.

Richard in Boston, MA,USA

Richard G Amirault schrieb:


Also it will receive broadcast AM & FM stations, and shortwave stations. A
far cry from a 'normal' scanner.

I have a handheld scanner with continous coverage from 100khz to
2.060Ghz with modes NFM, WFM, AM and SSB known as 'Trident TR-2400' and
sold under other brand other names such as 'Albrecht AE300'(wich is
mine). And I bet this IS a 'normal' scanner. It scans with 24 steps/sec
with preprogrammed or selfprogrammed stepwidth of 1-999khz from every
frequency you want it to start.
On the other hand the ICOM PCR-1000 -wich has very good scanning
capabilities- is named a 'communications receiver' by ICOM.
So where to make a dividing line....? :-) It's just the way _you_ use it.

odo

IMHO, I think the most disappointing aspects of the new Icom IC-R20 is
lack of extra bandwidth/filter options (if the specs we're seeing are
the final version? It looks like it just has one bandwidth option per
mode). Considering the a wide freq coverage, 150KHz-3.3GHz.


The AOR 8200MKIII has more filter options & it's coverage is up to
3.0GHz, as an example. AM N, AM W, NFM, SNFM, WFM, USB, LSB, CW.





Regards, Marian P Rogers, New Zealand


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"Bill Crocker" wrote in message ...
I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no digital,
and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has not
already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

If you're considering buying one, hold off for awhile, as I'm sure you will
be seeing deep discounts when inventories don't move.

Bill Crocker

The AR-8200 has more options, but in practical terms they make no real
difference.


"Marian P Rogers" wrote in message
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IMHO, I think the most disappointing aspects of the new Icom IC-R20 is
lack of extra bandwidth/filter options (if the specs we're seeing are
the final version? It looks like it just has one bandwidth option per
mode). Considering the a wide freq coverage, 150KHz-3.3GHz.


The AOR 8200MKIII has more filter options & it's coverage is up to
3.0GHz, as an example. AM N, AM W, NFM, SNFM, WFM, USB, LSB, CW.





Regards, Marian P Rogers, New Zealand


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"Bill Crocker" wrote in message
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I think the new ICOM IC-R20 is very disappointing. No trunking, no
digital,
and way over priced! What market is this going to appeal to, that has
not
already been met by many others, at a more reasonable price?

If you're considering buying one, hold off for awhile, as I'm sure you
will
be seeing deep discounts when inventories don't move.

Bill Crocker