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Winradio WR-1550e or Icom PCR-1000
Going to Dayton next week and I am wondering which of these radios is
the best bet to get. I don't hear much talk about winradio anymore. Will the Icom trunktrack like the winradio does? -- ----------- Dwayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BC895/ |
On Fri, 07 May 2004 23:15:13 GMT, Dwayne wrote:
Going to Dayton next week and I am wondering which of these radios is the best bet to get. I don't hear much talk about winradio anymore. And where have you been hiding? :-) It is a well known fact that Icom does not support the PCR1000 anymore and is letting it quietly die, while WinRadio keeps releasing new products all the time. Compare their Web sites and you shall see... Will the Icom trunktrack like the winradio does? Maybe only with third party software, on which Icom is now relying entirely. I have both PCR1000 and WR1550e, and the Icom has been collecting dust since I acquired the WinRadio - much better. David |
Dwayne wrote in
.net: In article 409c4668.6527115@news-server, says... And where have you been hiding? I haven't been hiding anywhere. I just never looked into these radios until now. Maybe only with third party software, on which Icom is now relying entirely. So are you saying that there is software out there for trunking? I have had great success using Trunk Tracker for the PCR-1000. Works just fine :) Take a look at : http://104452.home.icq.com/trunkpcr/TrunkPcr.html Been a while since an update has been released, but this version works fine for me. :) -- Panzer |
Here is one thing that bothers the hell out of me why are these receiver
cards built on ISA cards instead of PCI cards? Who the hell has an ISA card slot in their computer? I mean come on PCI-X is almost here across the board. ISA is ancient technology and its what keeps be from getting this type of receiver. "Panzer240" wrote in message ... Dwayne wrote in .net: In article 409c4668.6527115@news-server, says... And where have you been hiding? I haven't been hiding anywhere. I just never looked into these radios until now. Maybe only with third party software, on which Icom is now relying entirely. So are you saying that there is software out there for trunking? I have had great success using Trunk Tracker for the PCR-1000. Works just fine :) Take a look at : http://104452.home.icq.com/trunkpcr/TrunkPcr.html Been a while since an update has been released, but this version works fine for me. :) -- Panzer |
Neither the WR-1550e, or the PCR-1000, are built on ISA cards. Both these
models are external devices, that communicate to the computer via an RS232 serial port. WiNRADiO does offer the internal card version, and as you say, it is on an ISA card. Icom, to my knowledge, never offered an internal one. WiNRAiO does make a shortwave receiver, on a PCI card...finally! Icom ships the PCR-1000 with Bonito's software now. I've always preferred the PCR-1000, over the WR-1550e. From a software point, they both could use improvement. Bill Crocker "Spectre" wrote in message . .. Here is one thing that bothers the hell out of me why are these receiver cards built on ISA cards instead of PCI cards? Who the hell has an ISA card slot in their computer? I mean come on PCI-X is almost here across the board. ISA is ancient technology and its what keeps be from getting this type of receiver. |
"Bill Crocker" wrote in
: Icom ships the PCR-1000 with Bonito's software now. I've always preferred the PCR-1000, over the WR-1550e. From a software point, they both could use improvement. Bill Crocker The Bonito software is cack IMHO. No support, many bugs and definitely some of the worst available for the PCR-1000. Icom software while berift of features, at least works ;) There are others out there, TakPCR e.g. that are much better. But I do agree there is room for improvement. Mostly it is a fuyn radio to have amd play woth and there are some neat things you can do with it and some of the sound card software out there. PEople get a kick out of seeing the digital pager messages flowing by on the screen for example ;) -- Panzer |
On Sun, 9 May 2004 11:52:59 -0400, "Bill Crocker"
wrote: Neither the WR-1550e, or the PCR-1000, are built on ISA cards. Both these models are external devices, that communicate to the computer via an RS232 serial port. The WR-1550e also has an additional PCMCIA connector for which you can buy an optional PCMCIA adapter. There is also an optional USB adapter. I've always preferred the PCR-1000, over the WR-1550e. From a software point, they both could use improvement. Everything could surely use improvement, but comparing the Icom software with WinRadio software is like comparing a bicycle to a Mercedes. There is simply no comparison: The Icom software is crude and primitive, almost childish. It would surely look great on a chunky graphics Commodore computer of the early eighties. And has Icom finally managed to make it work on Windows XP? WinRadio software is beautifully crafted and works perfectly on all versions of Windows (and has been working perfectly on Windows 2000 and XP since the day they were introduced). You get plenty of ongoing support, many options (digital signal processing, decoding, trunking, database), dozens of free plug-ins for all sorts of applications (http://xrs.winradio.com), Linux support, Mac support, and even a free "Radio Basic" interpreter (http://www.rbasic.com) . Which other radio manufacturer gives you all that? Sure, any additional improvement would always be great. But all this is already a thousand times more impressive than whatever crap Icom has managed to provide so far, for their one and only PC-based product. David |
On Sat, 08 May 2004 03:08:20 GMT, Dwayne wrote:
In article 409c4668.6527115@news-server, says... And where have you been hiding? I haven't been hiding anywhere. I just never looked into these radios until now. Maybe only with third party software, on which Icom is now relying entirely. So are you saying that there is software out there for trunking? I have both PCR1000 and WR1550e, and the Icom has been collecting dust since I acquired the WinRadio - much better. Then you should sell me the Icom for cheap :) Say $200 David I guess your no answer means that you dont want to take me up on my offer. |
I've got an Icom PCR1000 running under Windows XP Pro and it works
flawlessly! I used the same software under Win95 & 98 with no problems at all. I also have trunking, using TrunkPCR software working flawlessly on the same XP machine. I've tried other software programs and always ended up going back to the icom software. With the DSP module installed and a discone antenna the Icom is hard to beat. |
On Mon, 10 May 2004 20:38:16 GMT, Dwayne wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2004 03:08:20 GMT, Dwayne wrote: In article 409c4668.6527115@news-server, says... And where have you been hiding? I haven't been hiding anywhere. I just never looked into these radios until now. Maybe only with third party software, on which Icom is now relying entirely. So are you saying that there is software out there for trunking? I have both PCR1000 and WR1550e, and the Icom has been collecting dust since I acquired the WinRadio - much better. Then you should sell me the Icom for cheap :) Say $200 David I guess your no answer means that you dont want to take me up on my offer. I do actually. :-) Your post did remind me that I planned to get rid of it. I no longer use it. But I think I'd prefer to do it via eBay. I am going away for a few days and will do it upon my return. David |
In article 40a0dce2.11271848@news-server, says...
I do actually. :-) Your post did remind me that I planned to get rid of it. I no longer use it. But I think I'd prefer to do it via eBay. I am going away for a few days and will do it upon my return. David Why bother with ebay when it will just cost you money to place the add? I can do paypal or postal money order if you like. -- ----------- Dwayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BC895/ |
"Ken" wrote in
: I've got an Icom PCR1000 running under Windows XP Pro and it works flawlessly! I used the same software under Win95 & 98 with no problems at all. I also have trunking, using TrunkPCR software working flawlessly on the same XP machine. I've tried other software programs and always ended up going back to the icom software. With the DSP module installed and a discone antenna the Icom is hard to beat. Same experience here for the most part. Same os etc. etc. I was intersted in your comment about the UT-106. For the most aprt any info I couild find about it indicated it was a waste of money in the PCR-1000. I would apprecite comments pro and con about this device as I have not purchaed one based on all the negative comment I have found regarding it. -- Panzer |
Panzer240 schrieb:
Same experience here for the most part. Same os etc. etc. I was intersted in your comment about the UT-106. For the most aprt any info I couild find about it indicated it was a waste of money in the PCR-1000. I would apprecite comments pro and con about this device as I have not purchaed one based on all the negative comment I have found regarding it. If you prefer BC-listening on shortwave this thing is real nice for its multi-tone automatic notch and a steal for its price compared to DSP based filters having this feature. The noice cancelling function was not very impressive IMHO. Sadly it lacks of peak, doublepeak and passband filtering for digital modes. Take your choice. PS: no need for x-post, f'up set. |
Howdy Panzer, the UT-106 is worth every cent. I was reluctant and waited
before buying one. But now I'm really glad I did. I wouldn't live w/o it now. It makes listening a real pleasure and much less of chore. It makes your noise level completely adjustable and really does work. Before I bought one, I looked into other dsp software options etc, & noticed that all the bad I had heard was from someone trying to sell me something else. You won't regret buying the UT-106. IMHO Ken "Panzer240" wrote in message ... "Ken" wrote in : I've got an Icom PCR1000 running under Windows XP Pro and it works flawlessly! I used the same software under Win95 & 98 with no problems at all. I also have trunking, using TrunkPCR software working flawlessly on the same XP machine. I've tried other software programs and always ended up going back to the icom software. With the DSP module installed and a discone antenna the Icom is hard to beat. Same experience here for the most part. Same os etc. etc. I was intersted in your comment about the UT-106. For the most aprt any info I couild find about it indicated it was a waste of money in the PCR-1000. I would apprecite comments pro and con about this device as I have not purchaed one based on all the negative comment I have found regarding it. -- Panzer |
Just got the Winradio WR-1550e at Dayton Hamvention. It's AWESOME!!!
George On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:58:53 GMT, "Ken" wrote: Howdy Panzer, the UT-106 is worth every cent. I was reluctant and waited before buying one. But now I'm really glad I did. I wouldn't live w/o it now. It makes listening a real pleasure and much less of chore. It makes your noise level completely adjustable and really does work. Before I bought one, I looked into other dsp software options etc, & noticed that all the bad I had heard was from someone trying to sell me something else. You won't regret buying the UT-106. IMHO Ken |
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I'd like to hear from people that have both & have done a side by side
comparision. "Dwayne" wrote in message .net... In article , says... Just got the Winradio WR-1550e at Dayton Hamvention. It's AWESOME!!! George What makes it so awesome? I am getting ready to head down to Dayton when the weather clears a bit and still dont know what radios to get :/ -- ----------- Dwayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BC895/ |
Hello George, Could you tell us a bit about how you found the Dayton
Hamvention this year? Was it worth going? TX, "George Blomfield" wrote in message ... Just got the Winradio WR-1550e at Dayton Hamvention. It's AWESOME!!! George On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:58:53 GMT, "Ken" wrote: Howdy Panzer, the UT-106 is worth every cent. I was reluctant and waited before buying one. But now I'm really glad I did. I wouldn't live w/o it now. It makes listening a real pleasure and much less of chore. It makes your noise level completely adjustable and really does work. Before I bought one, I looked into other dsp software options etc, & noticed that all the bad I had heard was from someone trying to sell me something else. You won't regret buying the UT-106. IMHO Ken |
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says... Hello George, Could you tell us a bit about how you found the Dayton Hamvention this year? Was it worth going? I'll tell you it was a waste of my time. Rained all freaking day long and most of the outside vendors were closed. I walked around inside for a little bit, picked up an R5 and left. One thing I can never understand about hamfests is the smell of some of the people. Do these smelly guys spend all there money on radios and cant afford soap? -- ----------- Dwayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BC895/ |
On Sat, 15 May 2004 12:03:30 GMT, Dwayne wrote:
In article , says... Just got the Winradio WR-1550e at Dayton Hamvention. It's AWESOME!!! George What makes it so awesome? I am getting ready to head down to Dayton when the weather clears a bit and still dont know what radios to get :/ -- I don't know where to start... :-) The software strikes you first: It looks and feels really professionally crafted. Heaps of features, fantastic spectrum analyzer, etc. I have just downloaded a few of what they call "XRS plugins" from http://xrs.winradio.com . Heaps of useful functions - for free. The performance is excellent. The receiver is very sensitive, and a fast scanner. The mechanical design is robust and elegant. Clear concise user's manual, and the beautiful packaging is an absolute overkill. So far, I got more than I expected. I'd give it 5 stars. BTW I got myself the optional Advanced Digital Suite too, it has many different analyzers and decoders, and I got a very good package deal on it... ;-) It will take me some time to get through all the functions, so far I tried the Advanced Signal Conditioner which has heaps of graphically adjustable filters. IMHO this feature alone is well worth the money, but there are many more... Hope this helps. George PS Cold and rainy at Dayton today. Not much joy in the outdoors flee market! |
Today (Saturday) the weather was no good for the flee market, but
there is still enough to see indoors. I did my usual round around Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, AOR etc., which kept me entertained for most of the day. I did not expect to end up spending most of the time at the Winradio stand as they have some new things, like software-defined shortwave radios etc., and good bargains on radios and antennas. I got a deal on the WR-1550e with some optional software, and a very nice discone antenna. I did not originally plan to go on Sunday again, but if the weather clears up I might still go to the flee market. George On Sat, 15 May 2004 19:32:51 GMT, "Steven Onines" wrote: Hello George, Could you tell us a bit about how you found the Dayton Hamvention this year? Was it worth going? TX, "George Blomfield" wrote in message ... Just got the Winradio WR-1550e at Dayton Hamvention. It's AWESOME!!! George |
On Sat, 15 May 2004 23:59:51 GMT, Dwayne wrote:
One thing I can never understand about hamfests is the smell of some of the people. Do these smelly guys spend all there money on radios and cant afford soap? -- You do have a point, I saw quite a few really freakish characters there today. I had to ask myself - do I really belong here? But then I looked into the mirror and had to say - yes! :-) |
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I bought my PCR1000 new for 300, (that's half of what winradio wants for
1550), a new UT-106 for 125. That's a whole lot cheaper than Winradio. Is Winradio REALLY That much Better? For the price? I'm not knocking it, just curious? I've been thinking about buying another radio. TIA "George Blomfield" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 May 2004 12:03:30 GMT, Dwayne wrote: In article , says... Just got the Winradio WR-1550e at Dayton Hamvention. It's AWESOME!!! George What makes it so awesome? I am getting ready to head down to Dayton when the weather clears a bit and still dont know what radios to get :/ -- I don't know where to start... :-) The software strikes you first: It looks and feels really professionally crafted. Heaps of features, fantastic spectrum analyzer, etc. I have just downloaded a few of what they call "XRS plugins" from http://xrs.winradio.com . Heaps of useful functions - for free. The performance is excellent. The receiver is very sensitive, and a fast scanner. The mechanical design is robust and elegant. Clear concise user's manual, and the beautiful packaging is an absolute overkill. So far, I got more than I expected. I'd give it 5 stars. BTW I got myself the optional Advanced Digital Suite too, it has many different analyzers and decoders, and I got a very good package deal on it... ;-) It will take me some time to get through all the functions, so far I tried the Advanced Signal Conditioner which has heaps of graphically adjustable filters. IMHO this feature alone is well worth the money, but there are many more... Hope this helps. George PS Cold and rainy at Dayton today. Not much joy in the outdoors flee market! |
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says... I bought my PCR1000 new for 300, (that's half of what winradio wants for 1550), a new UT-106 for 125. That's a whole lot cheaper than Winradio. Is Winradio REALLY That much Better? For the price? I'm not knocking it, just curious? I've been thinking about buying another radio. TIA I ended up not getting either of the radios because I just couldnt make up my mind. I too would like to know if Winradio is worth the extra bucks. -- ----------- Dwayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BC895/ |
On Sun, 16 May 2004 17:01:31 GMT, "Ken" wrote:
I bought my PCR1000 new for 300, (that's half of what winradio wants for 1550), a new UT-106 for 125. That's a whole lot cheaper than Winradio. Is Winradio REALLY That much Better? For the price? I'm not knocking it, just curious? I've been thinking about buying another radio. Yes, the 1550 is (IMHO) much better than the PCR, but please don't take my word for it - try them both (as I did). As to the price difference, well yes, I would not expect them to be the same price - it's enough just to look closely at the quality of the mechanical construction and the reason is already obvious there. Plus there is more of course. I would not expect to buy a Ferrari for the price of a Ford, even though a Ford would get me from A to B too - but who would not prefer to drive a Ferrari... :-) (That silly analogy might not be so silly after all - the 1550 scans about 3 times faster than the PCR. And even faster with the Signal Classifier function which is part of the Advanced Digital Suite...) George "George Blomfield" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 May 2004 12:03:30 GMT, Dwayne wrote: In article , says... Just got the Winradio WR-1550e at Dayton Hamvention. It's AWESOME!!! George What makes it so awesome? I am getting ready to head down to Dayton when the weather clears a bit and still dont know what radios to get :/ -- I don't know where to start... :-) The software strikes you first: It looks and feels really professionally crafted. Heaps of features, fantastic spectrum analyzer, etc. I have just downloaded a few of what they call "XRS plugins" from http://xrs.winradio.com . Heaps of useful functions - for free. The performance is excellent. The receiver is very sensitive, and a fast scanner. The mechanical design is robust and elegant. Clear concise user's manual, and the beautiful packaging is an absolute overkill. So far, I got more than I expected. I'd give it 5 stars. BTW I got myself the optional Advanced Digital Suite too, it has many different analyzers and decoders, and I got a very good package deal on it... ;-) It will take me some time to get through all the functions, so far I tried the Advanced Signal Conditioner which has heaps of graphically adjustable filters. IMHO this feature alone is well worth the money, but there are many more... Hope this helps. George PS Cold and rainy at Dayton today. Not much joy in the outdoors flee market! |
"George Blomfield" wrote in message ... Yes, the 1550 is (IMHO) much better than the PCR, but please don't take my word for it - try them both (as I did). As to the price difference, well yes, I would not expect them to be the same price - it's enough just to look closely at the quality of the mechanical construction and the reason is already obvious there. Plus there is more of course. I would not expect to buy a Ferrari for the price of a Ford, even though a Ford would get me from A to B too - but who would not prefer to drive a Ferrari... :-) Yes, I've seen them both, both inside and outside. And I can't imagine what you mean by 'quality of the mechanical construction' as being such a differentiation. |
On Tue, 18 May 2004 00:05:16 GMT, "Clay"
wrote: "George Blomfield" wrote in message ... Yes, the 1550 is (IMHO) much better than the PCR, but please don't take my word for it - try them both (as I did). As to the price difference, well yes, I would not expect them to be the same price - it's enough just to look closely at the quality of the mechanical construction and the reason is already obvious there. Plus there is more of course. I would not expect to buy a Ferrari for the price of a Ford, even though a Ford would get me from A to B too - but who would not prefer to drive a Ferrari... :-) Yes, I've seen them both, both inside and outside. And I can't imagine what you mean by 'quality of the mechanical construction' as being such a differentiation. Well I can, actually, because I have both. The PCR case is made of cheap folded sheet metal. When I bought it, it was already slightly rusty inside. The WR1550e is housed in a beautiful, solidly made, powder-coated aluminium extrusion. It does show that this manufacturer has attention to detail. In any case, I believe George does not make this his sole differentiation - read his post carefully. David |
On Tue, 11 May 2004 14:48:53 GMT, Dwayne wrote:
In article 40a0dce2.11271848@news-server, says... I do actually. :-) Your post did remind me that I planned to get rid of it. I no longer use it. But I think I'd prefer to do it via eBay. I am going away for a few days and will do it upon my return. David Why bother with ebay when it will just cost you money to place the add? I can do paypal or postal money order if you like. I'd rather pay the small placement fee, but maximize the profit. Of course, if I can't sell it for more than $200 then I will come back to you... :-) David |
"David Clark" wrote in message news:40ade539.2586268@news-server... On Tue, 18 May 2004 00:05:16 GMT, "Clay" wrote: "George Blomfield" wrote in message ... Yes, the 1550 is (IMHO) much better than the PCR, but please don't take my word for it - try them both (as I did). As to the price difference, well yes, I would not expect them to be the same price - it's enough just to look closely at the quality of the mechanical construction and the reason is already obvious there. Plus there is more of course. I would not expect to buy a Ferrari for the price of a Ford, even though a Ford would get me from A to B too - but who would not prefer to drive a Ferrari... :-) Yes, I've seen them both, both inside and outside. And I can't imagine what you mean by 'quality of the mechanical construction' as being such a differentiation. Well I can, actually, because I have both. The PCR case is made of cheap folded sheet metal. When I bought it, it was already slightly rusty inside. The WR1550e is housed in a beautiful, solidly made, powder-coated aluminium extrusion. It does show that this manufacturer has attention to detail. In any case, I believe George does not make this his sole differentiation - read his post carefully. David All it shows is that the manufacturer has access to the same boxes used by the $20 12v-110v inverter makers that are also packaged in a 'beautiful solidly made power coated aluminum extrusions'. I do have to admit that those 'looks' helped a lot when I sold mine [while keeping my pcr1000 that is 'beautifully compact' in its' custom designed case and fits much better in my briefcase too...] For me, the case wasn't worth 2x the price for indistinguishable differences in performance. |
David Clark schrieb: Well I can, actually, because I have both. The PCR case is made of cheap folded sheet metal. When I bought it, it was already slightly rusty inside. The WR1550e is housed in a beautiful, solidly made, powder-coated aluminium extrusion. It does show that this manufacturer has attention to detail. Do you have any comparision how these things compete in pure receiving skills on shortwave and on VHF-AIR, weather-sat receiving? I do not(!) want to speak on the software capabilities :-) I have the PCR1000 and I use 3rd party soft for decoding and the ICOM soft for tuning and swwitching the PCR so far as some decoding progs do not support remote control of the PCR1000. |
Wanted to buy used WR 1550E
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