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Anyone one see the Berg execution?
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jopl wrote in :
I guess my question would be - Why would you want to ? Morbid curiosity ? Demented freakazoid ? A guy gets his head cut off by radical islamist scum. Can you not imagine it ? |
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Jesse wrote:
jopl wrote in : I guess my question would be - Why would you want to ? Morbid curiosity ? Demented freakazoid ? A guy gets his head cut off by radical islamist scum. Can you not imagine it ? To appreciate the depth of their evil. |
jopl wrote: Jesse wrote: jopl wrote in : I guess my question would be - Why would you want to ? Morbid curiosity ? Demented freakazoid ? A guy gets his head cut off by radical islamist scum. Can you not imagine it ? If you haven't seen the video then NO you can't imagine it. Its not only the video itself which is moving but the audio. I think the audio was more moving then the video, listening to a man's screams as his head is being hacked off. And I do mean "hacked" off as the knife being used was not large or sharp enough to do a clean job. Until you see and HEAR the movie for yourself then my answer is NO, no way can you imagine it... George http://www.MilAirComms.com |
GeorgeF wrote in
ink.net: jopl wrote: Jesse wrote: jopl wrote in : I guess my question would be - Why would you want to ? Morbid curiosity ? Demented freakazoid ? A guy gets his head cut off by radical islamist scum. Can you not imagine it ? If you haven't seen the video then NO you can't imagine it. Its not only the video itself which is moving but the audio. I think the audio was more moving then the video, listening to a man's screams as his head is being hacked off. And I do mean "hacked" off as the knife being used was not large or sharp enough to do a clean job. Until you see and HEAR the movie for yourself then my answer is NO, no way can you imagine it... George http://www.MilAirComms.com To each their own. The points you make are legitimate I think. Personally,I have seen people die violent deaths in real life,so I likely could imagine it. Also,I remember viewing some little clip of a Russian soldier in Chechyna getting his throat sliced - And I kind of had the feeling I was violating that persons last moments on earth. People who video tape these acts obviously want them to be seen - For shock value and as a warning. You are,in ways,doing just what these barbarians want by viewing their infamous deeds. I don't need much further motivation to increase my hatred for radical islamists. |
Execution is done by the Government after Due Process.
This was murder. On Fri, 14 May 2004 19:22:39 -0700, jopl wrote: . |
To each their own.
The points you make are legitimate I think. Personally,I have seen people die violent deaths in real life,so I likely could imagine it. Also,I remember viewing some little clip of a Russian soldier in Chechyna getting his throat sliced - And I kind of had the feeling I was violating that persons last moments on earth. Yes, that is the video I saw, so I should retract the comment where I said I saw a beheading because that doesn't quite count. It's still horribly gruesome, though. Absolutely horrifying. It honestly made me physically sick. There are only a couple of things that I've seen in my life that I wish I could erase, or that I really wish I hadn't seen, and that video was one of them. |
John Neiberger wrote in
news:Ntypc.55352$536.9533398@attbi_s03: To each their own. The points you make are legitimate I think. Personally,I have seen people die violent deaths in real life,so I likely could imagine it. Also,I remember viewing some little clip of a Russian soldier in Chechyna getting his throat sliced - And I kind of had the feeling I was violating that persons last moments on earth. Yes, that is the video I saw, so I should retract the comment where I said I saw a beheading because that doesn't quite count. It's still horribly gruesome, though. Absolutely horrifying. It honestly made me physically sick. There are only a couple of things that I've seen in my life that I wish I could erase, or that I really wish I hadn't seen, and that video was one of them. I served with the U.S. Marines during the 91 Gulf War,and saw enough mangled and sizzled corpes to last me awhile. Also was a cop of sorts for a couple years in a big city, and saw quite a few instances of violent death. I'm not particuliarly squeamish,and I can't say the things I've seen haunt me - But if my mind was a hard drive,I'd certainly elect to erase portions of it. I think that most people want to view this clip out of pure morbid curiosity - Perhaps for the same reasons that drive people to want to see mutilation movies like whats his name freddy kruger,or to go on some outlandish 'amusement' ride roller coaster and get the living crap scared out of them. Like George said,perhpas some want and need to see it to motivate them as to what were up against .. Or just for a need to know the pure uncensored truth. But like you said,I can't help but feel that the majority of those who view this or things like it might well wish they hadn't. Once imprinted on the mind its there to stay. |
GeorgeF wrote:
jopl wrote: Jesse wrote: jopl wrote in : I guess my question would be - Why would you want to ? Morbid curiosity ? Demented freakazoid ? A guy gets his head cut off by radical islamist scum. Can you not imagine it ? If you haven't seen the video then NO you can't imagine it. Its not only the video itself which is moving but the audio. I think the audio was more moving then the video, listening to a man's screams as his head is being hacked off. And I do mean "hacked" off as the knife being used was not large or sharp enough to do a clean job. Until you see and HEAR the movie for yourself then my answer is NO, no way can you imagine it... George http://www.MilAirComms.com I agree with you George. The audio was worse. The video wasn't real clear. I would love to kill all 5 of those cocksucking Islamic faggots with my hands. |
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Bruce Markowitz wrote: So in other words the guy isn't dead? Who did they bury the other day? No I think he is dead. Killed before the video was made, the beheading probably wasn't "the cause of death". Killed by CIA? The beheading was just for show.... "The Dog is Wagging now!" George http://www.MilAirComms.com |
Dead is dead. Who the hell do you think killed him?
It's looking like the US killed him. I didn't see the video myself... no desire to... however, I must have missed something: assuming for a moment that the US government was somehow involved in Nick Berg's death, why would the US want to kill him? What was the motive? Jackie |
Hitler is dead too. Maybe he was a Mossad agent.
WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE NUTS????? On Sun, 16 May 2004 16:24:37 GMT, mlf wrote: In article , says... So in other words the guy isn't dead? Who did they bury the other day? He's dead alright. Killed by Americans or Isrealis as he and Dan Pearl were Mossad agents. |
"Bruce Markowitz" wrote in message ...
So in other words the guy isn't dead? I honestly do not know WHAT to make of Berg affair, although there is the vague but unmistakable whiff of fish in the air. I'd like to broaden this question. Is there a precedent for a "staged death" scenario? The motif is fairly common in spy novels and films: "The Third Man" and "You Only Live Twice" both come to mind. I seem to recall reading of a deception of this sort that took place in real life. The trouble is, I've read a lot of "true life" espionage books, and the details start to run together. I know that someone once proposed this as a solution (albeit not a very likely solution) for the Valentich disappearance, but that's not the incident I'm trying to recall here. Is my memory playing tricks, or was there once a case where someone connected with some intelligence agency faked his death? -- Joseph Cannon CANNONFIRE http://cannonfire.blogspot.com (email: ) |
Bruce Markowitz wrote:
Hitler is dead too. Maybe he was a Mossad agent. WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE NUTS????? Do you find it easier to attack people rather than discuss or rebut the points they make? For example, you might try saying something like this: "Those points that you all mention seem to be on rather shaky ground. While they appear to have some validity on the surface, I don't find that I can agree with them until I see more evidence. Until you can show me proof that you're right, I'd prefer to believe the word of our leaders." Or, you could try a more direct approach: "Can you back any of this up? Have you actually researched any of these claims yourself? If not, come back when you can do more than speculate or spread rumors." You're right, that's way too many words. :) It's a lot easier just to attack people with short, barbed sentences and ignore the rest of the discussion. By the way, isn't anyone here familiar with Godwin's law? Here's the current definition for those paying attention: Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful. Regards, John |
I seem to recall reading of a deception of this sort that took place
in real life. The trouble is, I've read a lot of "true life" espionage books, and the details start to run together. I know that someone once proposed this as a solution (albeit not a very likely solution) for the Valentich disappearance, but that's not the incident I'm trying to recall here. Is my memory playing tricks, or was there once a case where someone connected with some intelligence agency faked his death? Sidney George Riley, perhaps. He was called "The Ace of Spies", and some even believe that he was the model for James Bond. And, on-topic, some believe he faked his own death. I believe that some people feel that Glenn Miller's death was faked. I don't know know anything about that, though. An even more pertinent question would be this: do intelligence agencies have a track record of faking events or information in order to bring about a desired outcome? The resounding answer is "yes". Every major intelligence agency does this on a regular basis. And, yes, the CIA and Mossad do it just as often as everyone else. If you really want to have your mind blown, do a Google search on "Operation Northwoods". Have fun! :) Does any of it sound familiar? |
Il Sat, 15 May 2004 23:46:24 -0700, jopl disturbandomi mentre nitravo
del latte per le mie ricariche economiche, scrisse: I agree with you George. The audio was worse. The video wasn't real clear. I would love to kill all 5 of those cocksucking Islamic faggots with my hands. That would be a merciful punishment. personally i am against death penalty in ANY case since IMHO is stupid like an ass w/o the hole, however seems that in US they have a passion for this so i don't wanna argue with anyone. Beside that, i think those ppl need to be educated not eradicated, so take them all, get them naked, put a chain on their neck and let them live like dogs for...uhm...3 months? then free them and tell them, next time won't be 3 months will be 30 months. Now that could look cruel to anyone, but beasts need to be treated like beasts, what i still don't understand is WHY US doesn't take care of the heads, since those ppl are mainly sheepers and farmers, it must be the head that tell them what to do. Cut the head and the body will die. So please dispatch a bulled on the head of that useless imam that is bothering alot, it won't be reasonable, they won't be able to talk with him, he will keep sending stupid ppl to die or to blow themselves off...take the less pain, put him 2 mt underground and things will go better, and do the same for any substitute. Beside that, they are not Muslim, neither islamic, they are just pretending, taking advantage of those religion-full brains over there... -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Agostino Nevermore |
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