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Patty Winter June 10th 04 06:48 AM

Thanks to everyone who mentioned the "Special Air Mission" callsign.
I figured there had to be some sort of callsign for these situations!


Patty


Dave Holford June 11th 04 02:39 AM



Patty Winter wrote:

Thanks to everyone who mentioned the "Special Air Mission" callsign.
I figured there had to be some sort of callsign for these situations!

Patty



SAM callsigns are quite common and used by aircraft of the 89th Airlift
Wing on a regular basis.

Quite a bit of information is available he
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/sam.htm

Dave

bill carty June 13th 04 11:12 PM

Air force 1 is based in andrews and is part of the 84 or 89 th special
airlift wing. If you run a google search for usaf special misison wing, you
might be able to get the hull numbers and such about af 1

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Patty Winter wrote:

In article ,
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
In article , Patty Winter wrote:
I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's
casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really
be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000"
(or 29000)?

The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it

does not
use that callsign when the president is not in it.


Yes, I know. That's why I don't think the plane will actually be
using the callsign AF1 despite news reports to that effect, and
therefore why I posted my query.

I live near Moffett Field and have heard the planes come in under
the AF1 callsign numerous times. Part of the final approach that
a 747 takes to Moffett is easy for me to see, so I usually run
outside with the binocs when it happens. One of the shuttle carrier
747s was in town for the airshow recently, but I missed its entrance
and exit. Should've left the 2010 on more. :-)

And Steve (in another posting), you're right--it is 28000. I'm
seeing some live shots of it on the ground at Point Mugu.


Yes, and Peter Jennings referred to it as Special Air Mission 28000.





Paul Hirose June 14th 04 08:58 PM

I heard SAM 28000 on Friday afternoon as they were talking to Joshua
Approach in Southern California on 124.55 MHz, inbound to Pt. Mugu.
The pilot pronounced the callsign "Sam Two Eight Thousand". Joshua
routed them via the Palmdale VORTAC, descending to 14,000 then 7,000
feet before instructing them to contact Socal Approach.

That 747 must have an unusually powerful transmitter. The signal I
heard was the epitome of "loud and clear".

--

Paul Hirose
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dxAce June 14th 04 09:01 PM



Paul Hirose wrote:

I heard SAM 28000 on Friday afternoon as they were talking to Joshua
Approach in Southern California on 124.55 MHz, inbound to Pt. Mugu.
The pilot pronounced the callsign "Sam Two Eight Thousand". Joshua
routed them via the Palmdale VORTAC, descending to 14,000 then 7,000
feet before instructing them to contact Socal Approach.

That 747 must have an unusually powerful transmitter. The signal I
heard was the epitome of "loud and clear".


I've heard them several times over the years on HF and VHF, and indeed,
they have some powerful transmitters.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Steve Silverwood July 4th 04 09:30 PM

In article ,
says...
In article , Patty Winter wrote:
I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's
casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really
be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000"
(or 29000)?


By definition any airplane with the president of the U.S. on board uses
the callsign "Air Force One".

The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not
use that callsign when the president is not in it. I assume they have real
callsigns, (there are two of them) not just 28000 and 29000.

However N28000 used to be registered to someone else.

I'm sure they have callsigns besides Air Force One that they use when they
don't want to announce their presence, Let's face it, "Bagdad tower, this
is Air Force One, 25 miles out at 10,000 feet on course 180.",
is not something they would want to say over unencrypted VHF radio.


Correct. When not using the official designation, it's "SAM 28000"
instead.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


matt weber July 5th 04 04:16 AM

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 13:30:28 -0700, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article ,
says...
In article , Patty Winter wrote:
I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's
casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really
be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000"
(or 29000)?


By definition any airplane with the president of the U.S. on board uses
the callsign "Air Force One".

Wrong, it is Air Forece One only if it is an Aircraft operated by the
USAF, on the Helicopter (which is operated by the Maries) , it is
Marine 1, on the C2 it was Navy One, on an army aircraft, it would be
Army 1...


The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not
use that callsign when the president is not in it. I assume they have real
callsigns, (there are two of them) not just 28000 and 29000.

However N28000 used to be registered to someone else.

I'm sure they have callsigns besides Air Force One that they use when they
don't want to announce their presence, Let's face it, "Bagdad tower, this
is Air Force One, 25 miles out at 10,000 feet on course 180.",
is not something they would want to say over unencrypted VHF radio.


Correct. When not using the official designation, it's "SAM 28000"
instead.



Chris Rose July 15th 04 02:44 AM

Helos enroute to airports with the President on board for transfer to the
plane called Airforce One/Two are called Marine One/Two.


"Steve Silverwood" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...
In article , Patty Winter wrote:
I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's
casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really
be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000"
(or 29000)?


By definition any airplane with the president of the U.S. on board

uses
the callsign "Air Force One".

The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it

does not
use that callsign when the president is not in it. I assume they have

real
callsigns, (there are two of them) not just 28000 and 29000.

However N28000 used to be registered to someone else.

I'm sure they have callsigns besides Air Force One that they use when

they
don't want to announce their presence, Let's face it, "Bagdad tower,

this
is Air Force One, 25 miles out at 10,000 feet on course 180.",
is not something they would want to say over unencrypted VHF radio.


Correct. When not using the official designation, it's "SAM 28000"
instead.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:






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