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There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message . com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. |
What do you think that was if not a wire? "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. |
In article ,
says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. |
There are actually a few tracks to this story:
Health issue, anomoly, wire, et al http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ http://isbushwired.com/ http://bushwired.blogspot.com/ http://bushbulge.com/ http://bushsdefibrillator.blogspot.com http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. |
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says... There are actually a few tracks to this story: Undoubtedly. Imaginations are fertile. My point is simply that it is ridiculous to assume anyone wiring GWB would do so using visible wires when visible wiring is totally unnecessary and would be unbelievably careless or naive. Rick Health issue, anomoly, wire, et al http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ http://isbushwired.com/ http://bushwired.blogspot.com/ http://bushbulge.com/ http://bushsdefibrillator.blogspot.com http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. |
It only became visible when he adjusted his tie...
Did you even watch the video? "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... There are actually a few tracks to this story: Undoubtedly. Imaginations are fertile. My point is simply that it is ridiculous to assume anyone wiring GWB would do so using visible wires when visible wiring is totally unnecessary and would be unbelievably careless or naive. Rick Health issue, anomoly, wire, et al http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ http://isbushwired.com/ http://bushwired.blogspot.com/ http://bushbulge.com/ http://bushsdefibrillator.blogspot.com http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. |
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says... It only became visible when he adjusted his tie... Did you even watch the video? Did you think about what I wrote? Why would someone use a device that requires wires outside his shirt when they can easily be placed inside his shirt? You may not agree with what the administration is doing, but don't make the mistake of believing that they are stupid. I didn't watch the video because I don't believe they are stupid enough to use visible wires when they have better alternatives. Rick "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... There are actually a few tracks to this story: Undoubtedly. Imaginations are fertile. My point is simply that it is ridiculous to assume anyone wiring GWB would do so using visible wires when visible wiring is totally unnecessary and would be unbelievably careless or naive. Rick Health issue, anomoly, wire, et al http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ http://isbushwired.com/ http://bushwired.blogspot.com/ http://bushbulge.com/ http://bushsdefibrillator.blogspot.com http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. |
Here is a video of Bush crashing as he promises there will not be an
all volunteer army: http://tinyurl.com/4jbqm and another that reiterates what has gone wrong in Washington: http://tinyurl.com/b5e3 Click on CIA Culpa. You may think this is comedy but it is dead serious, in spite of the smirk. Jobst Brandt |
Java Man wrote in message able.net...
In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. If you mean the putative wire under the tie, I agree. If you mean the bulge and wire on the back, I disagree. The device is small but a wire has to run from it to the induction wire around the neck. There aren't too many places to put it, and that wire must go up to and around the neck. Recall though that the Bushies insisted on a regulation for the debate that no shots should be taken from behind. They also insisted on a regulation that there should be a private room just off stage for each candidate to have a staffer. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. There's plenty of that. "Let me finish!" Just one example of many. Check out the standard sites. |
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Java Man wrote in message able.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. If you mean the putative wire under the tie, I agree. If you mean the bulge and wire on the back, I disagree. The device is small but a wire has to run from it to the induction wire around the neck. There aren't too many places to put it, and that wire must go up to and around the neck. Recall though that the Bushies insisted on a regulation for the debate that no shots should be taken from behind. They also insisted on a regulation that there should be a private room just off stage for each candidate to have a staffer. So you're suggesting that the President of the US can't find someone to hook him up with a "wire" that's as sophisticated as something I could cobble together with stuff in my garage (if I were to actually buy something, I'd simply use connection wiring that would be virtually invisible under TV conditions). And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt (I know - he had a trick electric tie, but it failed to squirt water across the stage at Kerry...). You conspiracy theorists are entertaining though... Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
Thanks for the label.... "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (George Herbert Walker) wrote: Java Man wrote in message wcable.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. If you mean the putative wire under the tie, I agree. If you mean the bulge and wire on the back, I disagree. The device is small but a wire has to run from it to the induction wire around the neck. There aren't too many places to put it, and that wire must go up to and around the neck. Recall though that the Bushies insisted on a regulation for the debate that no shots should be taken from behind. They also insisted on a regulation that there should be a private room just off stage for each candidate to have a staffer. So you're suggesting that the President of the US can't find someone to hook him up with a "wire" that's as sophisticated as something I could cobble together with stuff in my garage (if I were to actually buy something, I'd simply use connection wiring that would be virtually invisible under TV conditions). And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt (I know - he had a trick electric tie, but it failed to squirt water across the stage at Kerry...). You conspiracy theorists are entertaining though... Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
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Thanks for the label.... Who the hell are you talking to, you top-posting anonymous moron?!? Bill "more labels for ya" S. |
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:26:40 GMT, Java Man
said in rec.radio.scanner: In article , says... There are actually a few tracks to this story: Undoubtedly. Imaginations are fertile. My point is simply that it is ridiculous to assume anyone wiring GWB would do so using visible wires when visible wiring is totally unnecessary and would be unbelievably careless or naive. Or, it might just be that the worker is no more intelligent than his boss. |
Mark Hickey wrote in message . ..
(George Herbert Walker) wrote: Java Man wrote in message able.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. If you mean the putative wire under the tie, I agree. If you mean the bulge and wire on the back, I disagree. The device is small but a wire has to run from it to the induction wire around the neck. There aren't too many places to put it, and that wire must go up to and around the neck. Recall though that the Bushies insisted on a regulation for the debate that no shots should be taken from behind. They also insisted on a regulation that there should be a private room just off stage for each candidate to have a staffer. So you're suggesting that the President of the US can't find someone to hook him up with a "wire" that's as sophisticated as something I could cobble together with stuff in my garage (if I were to actually buy something, I'd simply use connection wiring that would be virtually invisible under TV conditions). "Virtually invisible"? So was Bush's, but then he got caught, as he would have if he had been wearing your jerry-rigged device, if you could build one that worked- which I don't think you could. If you look at the basic device www.comtek.com/IFBCueing/ifbcueing.html, you will see that the wire is rather heavier than you imply, and for good reason. And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt I said NOT that. In back, underneath his jacket, we can't tell whether the device is underneath his shirt or on top, and it doesn't matter. We see it plainly underneath the jacket, and likewise underneath his T-shirt in the White House photos of him clearing brush at Crawford (see thread "Remote Control?"). But all this is just another one of your attempts at diversion. So again, what is YOUR explanation for the device clearly visible underneath his jacket and T-shirt? Here is mine, and it is the same as that of anyone not living in denial: http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/s...325238,00.html -- TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Please excuse the inconvenience allegedly caused by our son. Send us the bill for all the damages, and we can settle this to your satisfaction, without any need for a public record of the incident. Most Sincerely, George and Bar |
(George Herbert Walker) wrote:
Mark Hickey wrote in message . .. So you're suggesting that the President of the US can't find someone to hook him up with a "wire" that's as sophisticated as something I could cobble together with stuff in my garage (if I were to actually buy something, I'd simply use connection wiring that would be virtually invisible under TV conditions). "Virtually invisible"? So was Bush's, but then he got caught, as he would have if he had been wearing your jerry-rigged device, if you could build one that worked- which I don't think you could. If you look at the basic device www.comtek.com/IFBCueing/ifbcueing.html, you will see that the wire is rather heavier than you imply, and for good reason. You obviously know little about electronics. The size cable required to carry the signal from a small microphone is absolutely tiny, a small fraction of the size that headphone cables need to be (since they carry many times more current, and are MUCH larger than they need to be since the limitation is physical, not electrical). The "cable" in question appears to be at least several mm wide - proving it's not a "cable" but an odd shadow... but don't let that stop you from dreaming up new conspiracy theories. And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt I said NOT that. In back, underneath his jacket, we can't tell whether the device is underneath his shirt or on top, and it doesn't matter. We see it plainly underneath the jacket, and likewise underneath his T-shirt in the White House photos of him clearing brush at Crawford (see thread "Remote Control?"). But all this is just another one of your attempts at diversion. So again, what is YOUR explanation for the device clearly visible underneath his jacket and T-shirt? Here is mine, and it is the same as that of anyone not living in denial: Uh huh... pehaps you could tell us all WHY the POTUS would be wearing a wire at all, and what advantage that might possibly give him. Never mind the obvious technology issues that has disproven your theory - tell us all what possible advantage he might gain by wearing a wire to a debate. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
"Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (George Herbert Walker) wrote: Mark Hickey wrote in message ... So you're suggesting that the President of the US can't find someone to hook him up with a "wire" that's as sophisticated as something I could cobble together with stuff in my garage (if I were to actually buy something, I'd simply use connection wiring that would be virtually invisible under TV conditions). "Virtually invisible"? So was Bush's, but then he got caught, as he would have if he had been wearing your jerry-rigged device, if you could build one that worked- which I don't think you could. If you look at the basic device www.comtek.com/IFBCueing/ifbcueing.html, you will see that the wire is rather heavier than you imply, and for good reason. You obviously know little about electronics. The size cable required to carry the signal from a small microphone is absolutely tiny, a small fraction of the size that headphone cables need to be (since they carry many times more current, and are MUCH larger than they need to be since the limitation is physical, not electrical). The "cable" in question appears to be at least several mm wide - proving it's not a "cable" but an odd shadow... but don't let that stop you from dreaming up new conspiracy theories. And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt I said NOT that. In back, underneath his jacket, we can't tell whether the device is underneath his shirt or on top, and it doesn't matter. We see it plainly underneath the jacket, and likewise underneath his T-shirt in the White House photos of him clearing brush at Crawford (see thread "Remote Control?"). But all this is just another one of your attempts at diversion. So again, what is YOUR explanation for the device clearly visible underneath his jacket and T-shirt? Here is mine, and it is the same as that of anyone not living in denial: Uh huh... pehaps you could tell us all WHY the POTUS would be wearing a wire at all, and what advantage that might possibly give him. Never mind the obvious technology issues that has disproven your theory - tell us all what possible advantage he might gain by wearing a wire to a debate. The advantage would be to 'reminded of things'. They could have had hundreds of things to say to him to cover many possibilities. It was posted somewhere else that they got the idea to do it from the speculation in the first debate. We'll see. ....................................... http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ |
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"Mark Hickey" wrote in message .. . (George Herbert Walker) wrote: Uh huh... pehaps you could tell us all WHY the POTUS would be wearing a wire at all, and what advantage that might possibly give him. Never mind the obvious technology issues that has disproven your theory - tell us all what possible advantage he might gain by wearing a wire to a debate. The advantage would be to 'reminded of things'. They could have had hundreds of things to say to him to cover many possibilities. It was posted somewhere else that they got the idea to do it from the speculation in the first debate. Ummmm, if it was a RECEIVER, it would presumably go to his EAR, right? If so, routing the wiring outside his shirt, under his tie to... ???? doesn't make a whole lot of sense, does it? If it was to a speaker hidden in his tie, I fail to see how it could be loud enough for him to hear it without being picked up by the (sensitive) microphone(s) at the podium. Sorry - the whole conspiracy theory thing makes (if it's possible) LESS sense than the support for the Dan Rather memos. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:30:09 -0700, Mark Hickey
said in rec.radio.scanner: You obviously know little about electronics. The size cable required to carry the signal from a small microphone is absolutely tiny, a small fraction of the size that headphone cables need to be (since they carry many times more current, and are MUCH larger than they need to be since the limitation is physical, not electrical). Same thing with headphone cables, since the current they carry is minuscule. Uh huh... pehaps you could tell us all WHY the POTUS would be wearing a wire at all So that someone could tell him what to say, in case he forgot the script, or the subject matter strayed from it. You don;t really expect Shrub to sound sane extemporaneously, do you? He doesn't do that good a job of it when he's reading a prepared statement. |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:30:09 -0700, Mark Hickey said in rec.radio.scanner: You obviously know little about electronics. The size cable required to carry the signal from a small microphone is absolutely tiny, a small fraction of the size that headphone cables need to be (since they carry many times more current, and are MUCH larger than they need to be since the limitation is physical, not electrical). Same thing with headphone cables, since the current they carry is minuscule. Uh huh... pehaps you could tell us all WHY the POTUS would be wearing a wire at all So that someone could tell him what to say, in case he forgot the script, or the subject matter strayed from it. You don;t really expect Shrub to sound sane extemporaneously, do you? He doesn't do that good a job of it when he's reading a prepared statement. So, if the "wire" was going to his EAR, why would there be an invisible wire going to an invisible earpiece, and a cable the size of a pencil running outside his shirt under his tie??? And if it did NOT go to his ear, how did he hear the output of whatever was hooked to that monster cable, without it being picked up by the sensitive microphones on the podium? This whole thing is silly beyond words, IMHO. Mark "not that that really limits the words" Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
Mark Hickey wrote:
This whole thing is silly beyond words, IMHO. And just to PROVE that, I did a little searching for other photos of the fateful night. Notice in this one... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1453622236.jpg .... hardly from a "Republican-friendly news source", the "wire" has magically disappeared. The shirt is clearly visible well below the apparent path of the "wire". Or perhaps the "wire" is really just a photoshop item - does anyone have a link to a non-conspiracy theory site with the original of that photo? I didn't see the "wire photo" on any of the news service photos I looked through. Or actually - I think I may have just figured it out (really). If the inside of the small end of the blue tie had a white tag (many do), it would look JUST like the photo if it was dragged partially into view by the President rearranging his belt/tie/whatever he's rearranging. Notice how the "wire" seems to be the same color as the tie, and the "white" that's showing isn't quite the same hue as the shirt. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:15:48 GMT, Java Man
said in rec.radio.scanner: In article , says... You don;t really expect Shrub to sound sane extemporaneously, do you? He doesn't do that good a job of it when he's reading a prepared statement. And he didn't during the debates. Based on performance, I doubt he was electronically assisted. Or he was assisted poorly. |
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:22:56 -0700, Mark Hickey
said in rec.radio.scanner: So, if the "wire" was going to his EAR, why would there be an invisible wire going to an invisible earpiece, and a cable the size of a pencil running outside his shirt under his tie??? Because whoever set him up is as intelligent as he is? And if it did NOT go to his ear, how did he hear the output of whatever was hooked to that monster cable, without it being picked up by the sensitive microphones on the podium? Who says he had nothing in either ear? |
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this reply. Mark Hickey wrote in message . .. In article , Mark Hickey wrote: (George Herbert Walker) wrote: Mark Hickey wrote in message . .. So you're suggesting that the President of the US can't find someone to hook him up with a "wire" that's as sophisticated as something I could cobble together with stuff in my garage (if I were to actually buy something, I'd simply use connection wiring that would be virtually invisible under TV conditions). "Virtually invisible"? So was Bush's, but then he got caught, as he would have if he had been wearing your jerry-rigged device, if you could build one that worked- which I don't think you could. If you look at the basic device www.comtek.com/IFBCueing/ifbcueing.html, you will see that the wire is rather heavier than you imply, and for good reason. You obviously know little about electronics. The size cable required to carry the signal from a small microphone is absolutely tiny, a small fraction of the size that headphone cables need to be (since they carry many times more current, and are MUCH larger than they need to be since the limitation is physical, not electrical). The "cable" in question appears to be at least several mm wide - proving it's not a "cable" but an odd shadow... but don't let that stop you from dreaming up new conspiracy theories. With you, it's always difficult to know whether you simply don't have a clue what you are talking about, or are deliberately attempting to divert, obfuscate, mislead and confuse. The latter seems more plausible here, because I specifically denied that the so-called wire beneath his tie was that, and yet you still keep going back to it. I am talking about the cable visible on his back, going from the device to his neck. I presume you have asked, "why is it so thick when I could make it thinner, since earphone wires are so thin and could be even thinner?". Bzzzz: the systems available for this puporse, such as in the link I provided above, do not use a wire to the ear. They use a wire to the neck, and the system works by induction. As you can see from the link, the wires are about the thickness of those observed under Bush's jacket. That is the way these things are made and that is what he wore. And if it did NOT go to his ear, how did he hear the output of whatever was hooked to that monster cable, without it being picked up by the sensitive microphones on the podium? See above: it's an induction system. Just read the literature of the companies that make these systems. But of course you knew that. You are just obfuscating, diverting, and trying to mislead and confuse. And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt I said NOT that. In back, underneath his jacket, we can't tell whether the device is underneath his shirt or on top, and it doesn't matter. We see it plainly underneath the jacket, and likewise underneath his T-shirt in the White House photos of him clearing brush at Crawford (see thread "Remote Control?"). But all this is just another one of your attempts at diversion. So again, what is YOUR explanation for the device clearly visible underneath his jacket and T-shirt? Here is mine, and it is the same as that of anyone not living in denial: Nice of you to cut out the link. Wouldn't want any damaging information out there, would we? Scrub it clean man. http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/s...325238,00.html Uh huh... pehaps you could tell us all WHY the POTUS would be wearing a wire at all, and what advantage that might possibly give him. Never mind the obvious technology issues that has disproven your theory - tell us all what possible advantage he might gain by wearing a wire to a debate. So. Still no explanation from you of what it is, just divert, obfuscate, confuse, mislead. As to your question, even you can't think that you are scoring any points that way: anybody can see the advantage of cheating during the debates. The pictures clearly show a device under his jacket and on other cases under his T-shirt. It is easily explainable by devices readily available on the market, and there is tape from Fox and CNN picking up that signal, prompting him. You have no explanation for that device and seek only to confuse the issue with irrelevant obfuscations. You know damn well he is cheating. But then, you know damn well that nearly everything you have been arguing all this time is baloney. Speaking of that: ************************************************** ******* On the other hand you claim to believe in the cause, and the rightness and necessity of the mission. So you have drawn a line and the question is whether or not you are willing to put your ass on that line to back it up. Now, in a fit of bravado, you said you we you asserted that you were willing to go to Baghdad if someone else were willing to pay your ticket. Well, I have news for you that you will surely welcome: your rich uncle Sam is willing to pay not only your ticket- but also all your meals and accomodations, and your weapons too! [Note added as situation goes even further to Hell: $15,000 signing bonus now too] (Maybe not your body armor though, your pals Bush and Rumsfeld did send 40,000 troops over without Interceptor vests.) So are you willing to put your ass on the line or not? You'll look pretty disingenuous and cowardly if you back out now. ************************************************** ******** -- TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Please excuse the inconvenience allegedly caused by our son and his cowardly sycophants. Send us the bill for all the damages, and we can settle this to your satisfaction, without any need for a public record of the incident. Most Sincerely, George and Bar |
Al Klein wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:15:48 GMT, Java Man said in rec.radio.scanner: And he didn't during the debates. Based on performance, I doubt he was electronically assisted. Based on performance, he is obviously electronically assisted. But- Or he was assisted poorly. -why not listen and watch GWB's own assessment of the quality of his assistants, and of their role in his political life: http://anon.salon.speedera.net/anon....Uncensored.mov Our God-fearing, Christian, born-again, holy President and Messiah in chief couldn't be a petulant, French-clothed, Georges-de-Paris-tailored, preening, vulgar jackass who gives the "up yours" to female assistants, could he? -- TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Please excuse the inconvenience allegedly caused by our son. Send us the bill for all the damages, and we can settle this to your satisfaction, without any need for a public record of the incident. Most Sincerely, George and Bar |
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:06 GMT, Lady Chatterly
said in rec.radio.scanner: Half Usenet is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them. Who are you accusing of taking advantage of you? |
(George Herbert Walker) wrote:
snip With you, it's always difficult to know whether you simply don't have a clue what you are talking about, or are deliberately attempting to divert, obfuscate, mislead and confuse. The latter seems more plausible here, because I specifically denied that the so-called wire beneath his tie was that, and yet you still keep going back to it. I am talking about the cable visible on his back, going from the device to his neck. I presume you have asked, "why is it so thick when I could make it thinner, since earphone wires are so thin and could be even thinner?". Bzzzz: the systems available for this puporse, such as in the link I provided above, do not use a wire to the ear. They use a wire to the neck, and the system works by induction. As you can see from the link, the wires are about the thickness of those observed under Bush's jacket. That is the way these things are made and that is what he wore. snip Please make an effort to at least TRY to keep up here, "George". The discussion that I was participating in was the other conspiracy theory (...'scuse me, ONE of the other conspiracy theories) that had "photographic proof" of a large cable running outside the POTUS' shirt and under his tie. I guess you'd like to start a discussion as to why the most powerful man on earth would have to use a wire large enough to be visible through his jacket when any police department can wire up any crackhead so even a reasonably good pat-down won't discover the wire. If so, please carry on without me. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
On 28 Oct 2004 09:02:37 -0700, (George Herbert
Walker) said in rec.radio.scanner: -why not listen and watch GWB's own assessment of the quality of his assistants, and of their role in his political life: http://anon.salon.speedera.net/anon....Uncensored.mov Kind of sums it all up, doesn't it? He's a one-fingered kind of guy. Our God-fearing, Christian, born-again, holy President and Messiah in chief You left out college-failing-except-for-Papa, military deserting, lying, etc. couldn't be a petulant, French-clothed, Georges-de-Paris-tailored, preening, vulgar jackass who gives the "up yours" to female assistants, could he? Any friend of his god's can't be trusted. After all, they believe that no lie in the furtherance of their beliefs is wrong. One of their religion's founding fathers said so. |
Mark Hickey wrote in message . ..
The discussion that I was participating in was the other conspiracy theory Nice try. In fact, you replied to me. By the way, when will you be shipping out to Baghdad? $15,000 signing bonus you know. If so, please carry on without me. Pleasure. Why don't you hook up with Lady Chatterly? Your analyses have much in common. After Nov 2nd, or more realistically, sometime in 2005, perhaps we will all have the pleasure of carrying on without GWB and the Halliburton pimp. Imagine, they just sent the Halliburton pimp out to Hawaii in the hopes of swinging the vote Republican! Or was it to keep him off the mainland, with things so close? -- TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Please excuse the inconvenience allegedly caused by our son. Send us the bill for all the damages, and we can settle this to your satisfaction, without any need for a public record of the incident. Most Sincerely, George and Bar |
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:15:49 -0700, Mark Hickey
said in rec.radio.scanner: I guess you'd like to start a discussion as to why the most powerful man on earth would have to use a wire large enough to be visible through his jacket when any police department can wire up any crackhead so even a reasonably good pat-down won't discover the wire. Maybe his handlers aren't as smart as the average cop. (Look at who their boss is.) |
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 1:15:23 GMT, Lady Chatterly
said in rec.radio.scanner: In article Al Klein wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:06 GMT, Lady Chatterly said in rec.radio.scanner: Half Usenet is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them. Who are you accusing of taking advantage of you? We all know he's an attention slut. What type of slut are you? Not yours, dear. Sorry. |
George Herbert Walker wrote:
-snip insult Cheney- I kinda like the guy but your gratuitous insult reminds me of a poll result I read recently in which people's positive and negative impressions were queried. An awful lot of people, something like 40%, dislike Cheney. And deeply too. I was amazed. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:35:55 -0500, A Muzi said
in rec.radio.scanner: George Herbert Walker wrote: -snip insult Cheney- I kinda like the guy Running the government isn't a popularity contest. but your gratuitous insult reminds me of a poll result I read recently in which people's positive and negative impressions were queried. An awful lot of people, something like 40%, dislike Cheney. And deeply too. I was amazed. Are you also amazed at how many young children like Santa Claus? (It's called human nature. We like roly-poly nice guys and we dislike slimy liars.) |
Al Klein wrote:
(It's called human nature. We like roly-poly nice guys and we dislike slimy liars.) Which is why Kerry can't climb in the polls, despite the spate of bad news last few months. Bill "people recognize dirtbags (m *&* f)" S. |
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