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Old January 26th 05, 10:02 PM
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Default Broadcast FM SCA subcarriers

Anybody know where I can find a list of services currently being broadcast
on FM stations' subcarriers?

Also, can anybody refer me to information on which FM stations are used to
broadcast the MSN Smart Watch signals?

Thanks,

George




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Old January 27th 05, 12:26 AM
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Anybody know where I can find a list of services currently being broadcast
on FM stations' subcarriers?


http://members.aol.com/fmatlas/home.html


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Old January 27th 05, 12:55 AM
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How can these SCA transmissions be decoded? Are there any sound card-based
software techniques, or does it always require hardware?

- Doug


"George" wrote in message
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Anybody know where I can find a list of services currently being broadcast
on FM stations' subcarriers?

Also, can anybody refer me to information on which FM stations are used to
broadcast the MSN Smart Watch signals?

Thanks,

George






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Old January 27th 05, 02:12 AM
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"DougSlug" wrote in message
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How can these SCA transmissions be decoded? Are there any sound
card-based software techniques, or does it always require hardware?


Cannot be done with sound card or software. These are subcarrier s in the
FM signal. One has to tap the receiver after the demodulator and send
through a separate LF FM receiver ("adapters"_. Note that there are
legalities to consider in the US.

The site mentioned
http://members.aol.com/fmatlas/home.html
sells modifired FM radios and adapters.


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Old January 27th 05, 06:20 AM
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Is that true even for non-commercial armchair listening at home?


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How can these SCA transmissions be decoded?


Under the changes to the law in recent years,
it's illegal to monitor SCA transmissions
without permission.






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Old January 27th 05, 08:14 AM
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"George W" wrote in message
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Is that true even for non-commercial armchair listening at home?


I'm pretty sure the law does not say "illegal, except for armchair listening
at home" so the answer would be yes.

Nana


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Old January 27th 05, 09:33 AM
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I bought a SCA radio AM FM radio with the upper and lower SCA setting for
cheap on Yahoo auctions about a month ago brand new in box here is a link.
I do not have anything to do with the guy just thought it was a good deal.
the radio is a cheap radio. It has good audio and great sensitivity.
for $30 well worth it.
Doug

http://csearch.auctions.shopping.yah...celasia&acc=us



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Is that true even for non-commercial armchair listening at home?


Yes. Stupid law, unenforceable, but still a law.





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Old January 28th 05, 12:39 AM
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The following is taken from the manual for the Ramsey Electronics SCA
decoder kit, part number SCA1C:

"*A note concerning commercial use*
Although you may listen to these SCA broadcasts in you own home, any
commercial usage, such as restaurant, bar, store or even at parties is
considered theft of service and the owner of the copyrighted SCA service
is entitled to collect payment. So, be cool, OK?"

I don't know how accurately this reflects the law, but it suggests that
"armchair listening at home" may not be illegal. Does anybody know where to
find the actual text of the law?

- Doug


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"George W" wrote in message
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Is that true even for non-commercial armchair listening at home?


I'm pretty sure the law does not say "illegal, except for armchair
listening at home" so the answer would be yes.

Nana



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Old January 28th 05, 12:42 AM
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I am in the Trenton area, not far from you, Doug...what SCA programming, if
any, have you discovered at your location with this radio?
- Doug


"r392" wrote in message
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I bought a SCA radio AM FM radio with the upper and lower SCA setting for
cheap on Yahoo auctions about a month ago brand new in box here is a link.
I do not have anything to do with the guy just thought it was a good deal.
the radio is a cheap radio. It has good audio and great sensitivity.
for $30 well worth it.
Doug



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Old January 28th 05, 01:41 AM
 
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United States Code TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 119 - WIRE AND ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS
INTERCEPTION AND INTERCEPTION OF ORAL COMMUNICATIONS

(16) ''readily accessible to the general public'' means, with
respect to a radio communication, that such communication is not
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(A) scrambled or encrypted;
(B) transmitted using modulation techniques whose essential
parameters have been withheld from the public with the
intention of preserving the privacy of such communication;
(C) carried on a subcarrier or other signal subsidiary to a
radio transmission;
(D) transmitted over a communication system provided by a
common carrier, unless the communication is a tone only paging
system communication; or
(E) transmitted on frequencies allocated under part 25,
subpart D, E, or F of part 74, or part 94 of the Rules of the
Federal Communications Commission, unless, in the case of a
communication transmitted on a frequency allocated under part
74 that is not exclusively allocated to broadcast auxiliary
services, the communication is a two-way voice communication
by radio;
[CITE: 18 U.S.C 2510]http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2510.html

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