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tom February 28th 05 06:58 AM

scanning FRS/GMRS radios.
 
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and whether or
not you can have a detachable antenna.



PowerHouse Communications February 28th 05 07:34 AM

NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital

modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and whether or
not you can have a detachable antenna.





tom February 28th 05 12:39 PM

Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital

modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and whether or
not you can have a detachable antenna.







Evan Platt February 28th 05 04:14 PM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:39:15 GMT, "tom" wrote:

Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


There are, however it's almost easier to just buy a voice inversion
FRS radio. :)
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tom February 28th 05 04:22 PM

true --- they're not exactly classified military equipment ...


"Evan Platt" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:39:15 GMT, "tom" wrote:

Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted
speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


There are, however it's almost easier to just buy a voice inversion
FRS radio. :)
--
To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.




DougSlug February 28th 05 05:04 PM

Search for "LP Communications Speech Inverter" on this page:
http://www.funkmeldesystem.de/download.php to download. I have used this
program a couple times...it basically works, but I wouldn't say the results
are high fidelity...

- Doug


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted
speech? Or what's the procedure for that?




tom February 28th 05 06:52 PM

Right on Doug, I got it. How does it work? The txt file that came with it
is pretty meager --- do you play the inverted input through your snd card
and then start this exe and the output is reverted?


"DougSlug" wrote in message
...
Search for "LP Communications Speech Inverter" on this page:
http://www.funkmeldesystem.de/download.php to download. I have used this
program a couple times...it basically works, but I wouldn't say the
results are high fidelity...

- Doug


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted
speech? Or what's the procedure for that?






DougSlug February 28th 05 07:16 PM

You got it. You need to make sure the input signal doesn't get sent to the
speakers or you'll never make any sense of it.


"tom" wrote in message
news:uLJUd.528478$6l.36603@pd7tw2no...
Right on Doug, I got it. How does it work? The txt file that came with
it is pretty meager --- do you play the inverted input through your snd
card and then start this exe and the output is reverted?




PowerHouse Communications February 28th 05 11:40 PM

There are three programs that I aware of that can do speech inversion
through your computers sound card. I see that you have already found one of
them though an online link. If you have access to
alt.binaries.radio-scanner, I will upload all three of those files to that
group... Most likely one of them you already have, if "invert.exe" is the
same as the one I have by that name...


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted

speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital

modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and whether

or
not you can have a detachable antenna.









tom March 1st 05 03:32 AM

Yes, I can access that group --- I just looked and didn't see any posts by
you, there's only around 4 messages total...
Or are you waiting beofre you upload them? I would appreciate it.


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
There are three programs that I aware of that can do speech inversion
through your computers sound card. I see that you have already found one
of
them though an online link. If you have access to
alt.binaries.radio-scanner, I will upload all three of those files to that
group... Most likely one of them you already have, if "invert.exe" is the
same as the one I have by that name...


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted

speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital
modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and whether

or
not you can have a detachable antenna.











PowerHouse Communications March 1st 05 10:25 PM

I was having problems with my new News Provider. Apparently they limit the
size of posts, which I was unaware of... It should be up their now. If
it's not there, it will be shortly. I'll find a way to get it up there...


"tom" wrote in message
news:0nRUd.529723$Xk.101248@pd7tw3no...
Yes, I can access that group --- I just looked and didn't see any posts by
you, there's only around 4 messages total...
Or are you waiting beofre you upload them? I would appreciate it.


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
There are three programs that I aware of that can do speech inversion
through your computers sound card. I see that you have already found

one
of
them though an online link. If you have access to
alt.binaries.radio-scanner, I will upload all three of those files to

that
group... Most likely one of them you already have, if "invert.exe" is

the
same as the one I have by that name...


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted

speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in

message
...
NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital
modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and

whether
or
not you can have a detachable antenna.













tom March 1st 05 11:19 PM

Just checked, couldn't see any.
By the way, can you see only 3 posts in that group? My newsreader (outlook)
only shows 3 posts total in "alt.binaries.radio-scanner". Maybe that's
because it's set to ignore ones that are older than a certain length of
time, I don't know.



"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
I was having problems with my new News Provider. Apparently they limit the
size of posts, which I was unaware of... It should be up their now. If
it's not there, it will be shortly. I'll find a way to get it up there...


"tom" wrote in message
news:0nRUd.529723$Xk.101248@pd7tw3no...
Yes, I can access that group --- I just looked and didn't see any posts
by
you, there's only around 4 messages total...
Or are you waiting beofre you upload them? I would appreciate it.


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
There are three programs that I aware of that can do speech inversion
through your computers sound card. I see that you have already found

one
of
them though an online link. If you have access to
alt.binaries.radio-scanner, I will upload all three of those files to

that
group... Most likely one of them you already have, if "invert.exe" is

the
same as the one I have by that name...


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted
speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in

message
...
NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital
modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and

whether
or
not you can have a detachable antenna.















PowerHouse Communications March 2nd 05 01:35 AM

I know at least one of them made it as of this writing... I have a total of
44 posts, dating back to Feb 14...


"tom" wrote in message
news:2M6Vd.543837$6l.278669@pd7tw2no...
Just checked, couldn't see any.
By the way, can you see only 3 posts in that group? My newsreader

(outlook)
only shows 3 posts total in "alt.binaries.radio-scanner". Maybe that's
because it's set to ignore ones that are older than a certain length of
time, I don't know.



"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
I was having problems with my new News Provider. Apparently they limit

the
size of posts, which I was unaware of... It should be up their now. If
it's not there, it will be shortly. I'll find a way to get it up

there...


"tom" wrote in message
news:0nRUd.529723$Xk.101248@pd7tw3no...
Yes, I can access that group --- I just looked and didn't see any posts
by
you, there's only around 4 messages total...
Or are you waiting beofre you upload them? I would appreciate it.


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in

message
...
There are three programs that I aware of that can do speech inversion
through your computers sound card. I see that you have already found

one
of
them though an online link. If you have access to
alt.binaries.radio-scanner, I will upload all three of those files to

that
group... Most likely one of them you already have, if "invert.exe"

is
the
same as the one I have by that name...


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted
speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in

message
...
NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital
modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and

whether
or
not you can have a detachable antenna.

















tom March 2nd 05 03:58 AM

Got it. They're all there now. Thanks.


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
I know at least one of them made it as of this writing... I have a total
of
44 posts, dating back to Feb 14...


"tom" wrote in message
news:2M6Vd.543837$6l.278669@pd7tw2no...
Just checked, couldn't see any.
By the way, can you see only 3 posts in that group? My newsreader

(outlook)
only shows 3 posts total in "alt.binaries.radio-scanner". Maybe that's
because it's set to ignore ones that are older than a certain length of
time, I don't know.



"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...
I was having problems with my new News Provider. Apparently they limit

the
size of posts, which I was unaware of... It should be up their now.
If
it's not there, it will be shortly. I'll find a way to get it up

there...


"tom" wrote in message
news:0nRUd.529723$Xk.101248@pd7tw3no...
Yes, I can access that group --- I just looked and didn't see any
posts
by
you, there's only around 4 messages total...
Or are you waiting beofre you upload them? I would appreciate it.


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in

message
...
There are three programs that I aware of that can do speech
inversion
through your computers sound card. I see that you have already
found
one
of
them though an online link. If you have access to
alt.binaries.radio-scanner, I will upload all three of those files
to
that
group... Most likely one of them you already have, if "invert.exe"

is
the
same as the one I have by that name...


"tom" wrote in message
news:ThEUd.526380$8l.264629@pd7tw1no...
Is there an internet utility or some such that will revert inverted
speech?
Or what's the procedure for that?


"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in
message
...
NFM... Some use Speech Inversion scrabbling for "privacy".


"tom" wrote in message
news:AizUd.523789$8l.446764@pd7tw1no...
Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable,
non-digital
modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and
whether
or
not you can have a detachable antenna.



















john wilson April 13th 05 10:28 PM

NFM. Antenna cannot be detachable for GMRS radios.

tom wrote:

Do FRS/GMRS radios use wfm, nfm, or other scannable, non-digital modulation
modes?
All I can find on the fcc site is power level restrictions and whether or
not you can have a detachable antenna.






Bo Williams April 13th 05 10:35 PM

john wilson wrote:
NFM. Antenna cannot be detachable for GMRS radios.


That's not true. I have a pair of these that have detachable antennas:

http://www.icomamerica.com/products/frs/f21gm/

I suspect the regulation is that a radio that is FRS only cannot have a
detachable antenna, though I'm not sure. Nevertheless, I know there are
GMRS radios with detachable antennas. :)
--
Bo Williams -
http://hiwaay.net/~williams/

[email protected] April 16th 05 05:32 PM

For GMRS and FRS rules, see:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/per...generalmobile/

"If you operate a radio that has been approved exclusively under the
rules that apply to FRS, you are not required to have a license. FRS
radios have a maximum power of =BD watt (500 milliwatt) effective
radiated power and integral (non-detachable) antennas. If you operate a
radio under the rules that apply to GMRS, you must have a GMRS license.
GMRS radios generally transmit at higher power levels (1 to 5 watts is
typical) and may have detachable antennas. The current fee for a new
GMRS license is $80."

Terry



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