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RSL April 3rd 05 10:49 PM

Uniden BC296D, Update Please!!
 
Reports of problems with the BC296D having sensitivity issues early on. I
guess they just broke. Has this problem now been resolved??? In addition is
this still the best hand held scanner on the market or do you have another
pick for the top radio. Icom IC-R20 is nice but seems to lack the TRUE
scanner options that Uniden puts in its units. Just looking for an update on
this radio. Thank You!!



Bill Crocker April 3rd 05 11:17 PM

Consider Radio Shack's (GRE Mfg.), PRO-96. The Icom IC-R20 does not do
Trunk Tracking, or Digital modes. If you don't need digital, consider Radio
Shack's (GRE Mfg.), PRO-95, the price has been reduced to only $129.99, an
exceptional deal!

Bill Crocker


"RSL" wrote in message
news:xyZ3e.3171$ZV5.3035@fed1read05...
Reports of problems with the BC296D having sensitivity issues early on. I
guess they just broke. Has this problem now been resolved??? In addition
is this still the best hand held scanner on the market or do you have
another pick for the top radio. Icom IC-R20 is nice but seems to lack the
TRUE scanner options that Uniden puts in its units. Just looking for an
update on this radio. Thank You!!




RSL April 4th 05 12:26 AM

Bill, I was not even aware that Radio Shack made this high end of a scanner, PRO-96 , I just checked it out ?? How long has it been on the market, and has it received very good reviews.. Funny, I though Uniden was the leader in the scanner world??

Robert, San Diego


"Bill Crocker" wrote in message ...
Consider Radio Shack's (GRE Mfg.), PRO-96. The Icom IC-R20 does not do
Trunk Tracking, or Digital modes. If you don't need digital, consider Radio
Shack's (GRE Mfg.), PRO-95, the price has been reduced to only $129.99, an
exceptional deal!

Bill Crocker


"RSL" wrote in message
news:xyZ3e.3171$ZV5.3035@fed1read05...
Reports of problems with the BC296D having sensitivity issues early on. I
guess they just broke. Has this problem now been resolved??? In addition
is this still the best hand held scanner on the market or do you have
another pick for the top radio. Icom IC-R20 is nice but seems to lack the
TRUE scanner options that Uniden puts in its units. Just looking for an
update on this radio. Thank You!!




news.vif.com April 4th 05 01:29 AM

Radio shack suxs! and NO! sensitivity issues

Bill Crocker April 4th 05 01:46 AM

High Robert!

Below, is quoted text, from a recent post of mine. Easier than re-typing it all!

Bill


The Radio Shack (GRE Manufactured),
PRO-96 Hand-Held, and the newly release PRO-2096 Mobile/Base work very well.
In addition to those, Uniden Bearcat BC296D Hand-Held, and BC796D
Mobile/Base work too.

The earlier generation Uniden Bearcats, that also had "Digital" capability,
DO NOT work. Even though they are digital, the baud rate is not high
enough, to be compatible with Michigan's system.

I've owned the Uniden BC796D, and the Radio Shack PRO-96. I think the Radio
Shack PRO-96 was easier to program, and did a better job of converting the
digital signal's audio. On occasion, the Uniden had somewhat of an
electronic sound to it, similar to SSB on shortwave. It has an adjustment
to "tune" the audio quality, but it's not always 100%, and why fool with
that if you don't have to with the Radio Shack models! The Radio Shack
model's MSRP is less expensive as well.

Be advised, when I was using mine, the MSP (Michigan State Police), in
addition to using digital, would enable encryption on occasion! When they
use encryption, you will not be able to hear them! There is nothing on the
market, hardware, or software, that will allow you to decrypt their digital
transmissions. It is also illegal (Felony) to do so. Shelby Township is on
the same system, and soon Macomb County, and the city of Warren will be
joining. It would not surprise me to see them all using encryption more,
and more, rendering any legal scanner equipment useless.

Oakland County is moving to a totally different system called M/A COM
OpenSky. This is a total departure from the digital system that MSP, and
most all others are, or will soon, be using in Michigan. There is no
scanner radio equipment on the market at this time, that is capable of
receiving this system. Even though there may be good reasons for using this
system, the fact that it is a total departure from the chosen "standard" for
Michigan, makes it a very poor choice in my opinion. Should we every
experience a situation on the scale of 9/11, here in Michigan, Oakland
County will be in a world all of their own.

If you intend to use the scanner in your car, in Michigan, be advised,
unless you are in Public Safety, or have a HAM license, you will need a
permit from the MSP to do so. A recent post in the group indicated there
are efforts underway, to remove this requirement, but it still stands for
now, and the penalties are very serious! If you would like an application
to obtain a permit, email me, and I will be glad to send you the form.
There are no special requirements, other than you've behaved yourself, and
haven't committed any serious crimes. It is easy to fill out, and submit,
and is totally free!

"RSL" wrote in message news:ZY_3e.3180$ZV5.137@fed1read05...
Bill, I was not even aware that Radio Shack made this high end of a scanner, PRO-96 , I just checked it out ?? How long has it been on the market, and has it received very good reviews.. Funny, I though Uniden was the leader in the scanner world??

Robert, San Diego


"Bill Crocker" wrote in message ...
Consider Radio Shack's (GRE Mfg.), PRO-96. The Icom IC-R20 does not do
Trunk Tracking, or Digital modes. If you don't need digital, consider Radio
Shack's (GRE Mfg.), PRO-95, the price has been reduced to only $129.99, an
exceptional deal!

Bill Crocker


"RSL" wrote in message
news:xyZ3e.3171$ZV5.3035@fed1read05...
Reports of problems with the BC296D having sensitivity issues early on. I
guess they just broke. Has this problem now been resolved??? In addition
is this still the best hand held scanner on the market or do you have
another pick for the top radio. Icom IC-R20 is nice but seems to lack the
TRUE scanner options that Uniden puts in its units. Just looking for an
update on this radio. Thank You!!




RSL April 4th 05 04:21 AM

And what about radio shack do you not like?? I guess these means you like
the Uniden better???

Radio shack suxs! and NO! sensitivity issues




BDK April 4th 05 05:50 AM

In article ,
says...
Radio shack suxs! and NO! sensitivity issues



I do minor repairs on scanners all the time, and the number of Uniden
made radios with any of the defects listed below is at least 3 to 1 over
the amount of GRE radios with problems. This applies to Uniden made
radios that RS sells too...

Speaker jack (The plug where the speaker wires connect to the PC board)
not soldered at all. (Uniden only)
Speaker jack soldered on one lead only. (both VERY RARE)
Speaker wires not soldered. (Uniden only)
Antenna lead badly soldered, or not soldered at all. (Both)
BNC connector not tightened correctly (90% Uniden)
Epoxy on CPU was still wet when radio was assembled, speaker leads are
embedded in it, and have to be dug out or redone completely. (Uniden
only)


I just did another one, a Pro-94, bought as "no audio" at a garage sale.
The speaker jack was not soldered on one side and the speaker wires had
to be dug out of the epoxy. I charged him 30 bucks, so for $55 total, he
got a fully functioning Pro94.


Not a great radio, but for that price, I'd take it..but a Pro 93 or 95
blows it away...

BDK

RSL April 4th 05 06:27 AM

What does GRS mean??? I guess Radio Shack scanners are better quality as
well!!



"BDK" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Radio shack suxs! and NO! sensitivity issues



I do minor repairs on scanners all the time, and the number of Uniden
made radios with any of the defects listed below is at least 3 to 1 over
the amount of GRE radios with problems. This applies to Uniden made
radios that RS sells too...

Speaker jack (The plug where the speaker wires connect to the PC board)
not soldered at all. (Uniden only)
Speaker jack soldered on one lead only. (both VERY RARE)
Speaker wires not soldered. (Uniden only)
Antenna lead badly soldered, or not soldered at all. (Both)
BNC connector not tightened correctly (90% Uniden)
Epoxy on CPU was still wet when radio was assembled, speaker leads are
embedded in it, and have to be dug out or redone completely. (Uniden
only)


I just did another one, a Pro-94, bought as "no audio" at a garage sale.
The speaker jack was not soldered on one side and the speaker wires had
to be dug out of the epoxy. I charged him 30 bucks, so for $55 total, he
got a fully functioning Pro94.


Not a great radio, but for that price, I'd take it..but a Pro 93 or 95
blows it away...

BDK




news.vif.com April 4th 05 09:32 AM

RSL wrote:

And what about radio shack do you not like?? I guess these means you like
the Uniden better???



Yes & not saying am loyal to uniden.
At least you get real tech. support if you need it, in the other hand
'radio shack' i be suprised if theirs such a thing/


if anyone says radio shack is the greatest thing since sliced bread,
their wrong, thiers alot better things.


Radio shack suxs! and NO! sensitivity issues





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BDK April 4th 05 10:18 AM

In article Cf44e.3249$ZV5.240@fed1read05, says...
What does GRS mean??? I guess Radio Shack scanners are better quality as
well!!



"BDK" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...
Radio shack suxs! and NO! sensitivity issues



I do minor repairs on scanners all the time, and the number of Uniden
made radios with any of the defects listed below is at least 3 to 1 over
the amount of GRE radios with problems. This applies to Uniden made
radios that RS sells too...

Speaker jack (The plug where the speaker wires connect to the PC board)
not soldered at all. (Uniden only)
Speaker jack soldered on one lead only. (both VERY RARE)
Speaker wires not soldered. (Uniden only)
Antenna lead badly soldered, or not soldered at all. (Both)
BNC connector not tightened correctly (90% Uniden)
Epoxy on CPU was still wet when radio was assembled, speaker leads are
embedded in it, and have to be dug out or redone completely. (Uniden
only)


I just did another one, a Pro-94, bought as "no audio" at a garage sale.
The speaker jack was not soldered on one side and the speaker wires had
to be dug out of the epoxy. I charged him 30 bucks, so for $55 total, he
got a fully functioning Pro94.


Not a great radio, but for that price, I'd take it..but a Pro 93 or 95
blows it away...

BDK





GRS??? You mean when I said GRE, the company that makes the scanners
like the Pro 93, 95, 96 and 97??

BDK

BDK April 4th 05 10:30 AM

In article ,
says...
RSL wrote:

And what about radio shack do you not like?? I guess these means you like
the Uniden better???



Yes & not saying am loyal to uniden.
At least you get real tech. support if you need it, in the other hand
'radio shack' i be suprised if theirs such a thing/


if anyone says radio shack is the greatest thing since sliced bread,
their wrong, thiers alot better things.


Radio shack suxs! and NO! sensitivity issues







What does "and NO! sensitivity issues" mean??

Radio shack does suck in a lot of ways, no doubt, but what sort of
"support" does Uniden do? What kind of support would you need? Help
operating the radio? If so, there are better sources on the net, that
really know how to use it.

Or is it their service dept??

Lose your radio, twice, like mine?
Send it back with scratches and more problems than when you sent it?
Like mine?

Take weeks or months (SIX!!) to send back you radio, unfixed?
Like mine??

Have no idea how to fix a design flaw, keep the radio for weeks, change
some parts and make it worse (BC200XLT Low Batt indicator/shutoff)? The
only fix? Take a pair of dykes and clip the circuit out!
Like mine??

That's my experience with 20+ years of Uniden "tech support".

I've sent several over the years to RS, and only one was lost (by UPS,
not them), and a couple times it took too long to get it back, but not
as long as Uniden. Even on Uniden made radios, they seem better than
Uniden..

BDK

RSL April 4th 05 03:39 PM



Sorry, yes GRE. So they make the scanners for Radio Shack... Radio shack
seems to be a sleeper for sure as far as popularity , at least for me. One
way I judge equipment is look on eBay to see if they are selling USED ones.
I see as many radios shack 96 for sale as I do the new Uniden hand held.
People say things like I don't use it, or to complicated but I suspect other
reasons for buying a $500 scanner and then selling it on eBay a few weeks
latter.. Your knowledge of Built Quality is very helpful! Seems that Radio
Shack has proven superior build quality in your mind!


GRS??? You mean when I said GRE, the company that makes the scanners
like the Pro 93, 95, 96 and 97??

BDK




BDK April 4th 05 06:25 PM

In article 1lc4e.3448$ZV5.1814@fed1read05, says...


Sorry, yes GRE. So they make the scanners for Radio Shack... Radio shack
seems to be a sleeper for sure as far as popularity , at least for me. One
way I judge equipment is look on eBay to see if they are selling USED ones.
I see as many radios shack 96 for sale as I do the new Uniden hand held.
People say things like I don't use it, or to complicated but I suspect other
reasons for buying a $500 scanner and then selling it on eBay a few weeks
latter.. Your knowledge of Built Quality is very helpful! Seems that Radio
Shack has proven superior build quality in your mind!


GRS??? You mean when I said GRE, the company that makes the scanners
like the Pro 93, 95, 96 and 97??

BDK





Over 20 + years of messing with them yes, the GRE built ones, at least
the ones after the Pro 2004 of 1985 or 86 are better QC wise, it's no
contest.

Not to say GRE radios are perfect. The Unidens usually have louder, if
not better sounding audio, and for non trunked freqs, slightly simpler
(1 keypress more per freq) to program. Until recently, with the current
models, the Unidens used a crappy battery pack that was a pain to use,
and couldn't be replaced with ordinary AA batts when it died
unexpectedly. The Uniden RS models took AA batts and that was a reason
to pick an RS model over the Uniden brand. After 20 years, they finally
listened and went to normal AAs.

In most cases the GRE handhelds are better performers, RF wise, than the
Unidens. Intermod is a real problem here and my BC-9000XLT is trashed on
several channels from the police dispatch channel across the river, and
a UHF TV station causes interference in both the 460 and 800MHZ areas.
It's not horrible, but the dispatcher doesn't seem to affect my Pro 2004
and 2005, or my Pro 93 the way it does my BC-9000 or my BC3000.

I haven't had the $$ to get a 96 yet, but I have friends who have had
both it and the BC296, and only one has kept the 296. I have played with
both at the house here and the 96 is easily superior.

BDK

RSL April 6th 05 04:47 AM


Today I went on line and downloaded the Radio Shack Pro-96 manual. I also
noticed other things like a DSP software upgrade. I have to admit that after
reading the Icom IC-R20, Uniden BC-296 and the Radio Shack Pro-96, The Radio
Shack seems like a very Clear Winner based on Ease of operation, and
software updates and flexibility!!! If the Pro-96 PERFORMS as good as
everyone is telling me, then it seems like the logical choice. With
Performance and Build Quality superior have I missed anything???


"RSL" wrote in message
news:xyZ3e.3171$ZV5.3035@fed1read05...
Reports of problems with the BC296D having sensitivity issues early on. I
guess they just broke. Has this problem now been resolved??? In addition
is this still the best hand held scanner on the market or do you have
another pick for the top radio. Icom IC-R20 is nice but seems to lack the
TRUE scanner options that Uniden puts in its units. Just looking for an
update on this radio. Thank You!!




BDK April 6th 05 04:20 PM

In article a_I4e.4036$ZV5.2479@fed1read05, says...

Today I went on line and downloaded the Radio Shack Pro-96 manual. I also
noticed other things like a DSP software upgrade. I have to admit that after
reading the Icom IC-R20, Uniden BC-296 and the Radio Shack Pro-96, The Radio
Shack seems like a very Clear Winner based on Ease of operation, and
software updates and flexibility!!! If the Pro-96 PERFORMS as good as
everyone is telling me, then it seems like the logical choice. With
Performance and Build Quality superior have I missed anything???


"RSL" wrote in message
news:xyZ3e.3171$ZV5.3035@fed1read05...
Reports of problems with the BC296D having sensitivity issues early on. I
guess they just broke. Has this problem now been resolved??? In addition
is this still the best hand held scanner on the market or do you have
another pick for the top radio. Icom IC-R20 is nice but seems to lack the
TRUE scanner options that Uniden puts in its units. Just looking for an
update on this radio. Thank You!!





Nope. The 296 I had was as sensitive as the 96, but intermod was worse,
so I'd take the 96 for that alone. If you program it with the PC
software you can get on the web, it's pretty painless to set up. Using
it takes a little time, but if you have used a scanner before, it's not
difficult.

Icom's problem is that Uniden and GRE have most of the scanner patents
split between them and so Icom would have to pay $$$ for rights. If Icom
would do this, make a digital trunk tracker that had decent scan speed
(the patents again), and normal scanning by bank (Patents!), and the RF
performance of my old 24AT they would have a killer if they could price
it at 500 bucks or so.

BDK


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