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Pred02 August 22nd 05 09:09 PM

Listening to airband frequencies
 
Hi,
I just bought a radio scanner (radioshack pro-83) and want to listen to
airband frequencies, however, I cannot find any on the airband. I tried
doing the scan, and even tuning to specific ones, like Boston ATC and
whatnot, but cannot hear anything.

Other frequencies, such as Police/Fire I hear just fine. I am
approximately 10 miles away from a major airport.

Am I doing something wrong, or I really have to be close to the airport
to hear them on the scanner?

Thanks.

Kind regards,
george


Dave S August 22nd 05 09:38 PM

10 miles. I would have thought you'd hear things OK.

You'd be better scanning or tuning to the specific frequencies the airport
uses. Do an Internet search for the airport and the frequencies it has.
Best start would be the approach or departure frequencies, particularly at a
time you have aircraft operating over or near your home. You can try
control tower and ground frequencies later.

However, eliminate the distance question for a start. Grab a list of the
frequencies and go to or near the airport and make sure you are receiving
them there. Once you're confident with the scanner at close quarters, try
again from home.

--

Dave S

"Pred02" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,
I just bought a radio scanner (radioshack pro-83) and want to listen to
airband frequencies, however, I cannot find any on the airband. I tried
doing the scan, and even tuning to specific ones, like Boston ATC and
whatnot, but cannot hear anything.

Other frequencies, such as Police/Fire I hear just fine. I am
approximately 10 miles away from a major airport.

Am I doing something wrong, or I really have to be close to the airport
to hear them on the scanner?

Thanks.

Kind regards,
george




Pred02 August 23rd 05 12:13 AM

Hmm.. I cannot hear any frequencies on the airband. I tried tuning into
many of the local frequencies, but even with the search function on the
airband I cannot hear anything. There is a blank noise on 125.0, other
than that nothing. The scan function works fine with tunning to weather
and police/fire frequencies, but nothing for airband.

I suppose I am doing something wrong. I have the Pro-83.

Any suggestions?

kind regards,
george


Jesse August 23rd 05 05:22 AM

"Pred02" wrote in news:1124752412.873051.266350
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Hmm.. I cannot hear any frequencies on the airband. I tried tuning into
many of the local frequencies, but even with the search function on the
airband I cannot hear anything. There is a blank noise on 125.0, other
than that nothing. The scan function works fine with tunning to weather
and police/fire frequencies, but nothing for airband.

I suppose I am doing something wrong. I have the Pro-83.

Any suggestions?

Around Boston there must be quite a few active freqs.
Things to consider:

* All air comms are AM
* In search, use 25 khz steps [or 12.5 or 50] from 119 to 140 mhz
* You might hear only the aircraft side on the transmissions at 10 miles with
a rubber duck antenna.

Still, during any day you should have no problems finding active freqs as
aircraft travel to and fro.


Pred02 August 23rd 05 03:31 PM

Nothing on the airband around my house. Perhaps I am using the scanner
the wrong way or something, when I search the airbamd 108-134. Perhaps
I will drive closer to the airport and try to get some frequencies over
there to see if it works at all.

But I bet I am doing something wrong.


August 23rd 05 03:34 PM

Pred02 wrote:
With the squelch set all the way clockwise, it scans the entire band
without finding anything. If I put the squelch all the way
counterclockwise, it stops the search as it finds static. Perhaps the
squelch should be set differently?


George, the usual way to set the squelch is to start all the
way clockwise (fully on), begin scanning, and slowly turn the
squelch anti-clockwise until you hear noise--that is, until
the squelch is below the ambient noise level. From that point,
turn the squelch back clockwise enough to make the noise stop,
plus just a bit more.

With the squelch set all the way ON, as you had it, only a
very strong nearby signal will be enough to break the squelch,
so this may well be why you aren't hearing anything yet!
Good luck!

_______________________________________________
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_______________________________________________
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Pred02 August 23rd 05 03:42 PM

With the squelch set all the way clockwise, it scans the entire band
without finding anything. If I put the squelch all the way
counterclockwise, it stops the search as it finds static. Perhaps the
squelch should be set differently?

Thanks,
George


Dave S August 23rd 05 05:17 PM

Well, yes. I thought I gave you some suggestions. To repeat:

"You'd be better scanning or tuning to the specific frequencies the airport
uses. Do an Internet search for the airport and the frequencies it has.
Best start would be the approach or departure frequencies, particularly at a
time you have aircraft operating over or near your home. You can try
control tower and ground frequencies later.

"However, eliminate the distance question for a start. Grab a list of the
frequencies and go to or near the airport and make sure you are receiving
them there. Once you're confident with the scanner at close quarters, try
again from home."

Did you try this?

--

Dave S

"Pred02" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hmm.. I cannot hear any frequencies on the airband. I tried tuning into
many of the local frequencies, but even with the search function on the
airband I cannot hear anything. There is a blank noise on 125.0, other
than that nothing. The scan function works fine with tunning to weather
and police/fire frequencies, but nothing for airband.

I suppose I am doing something wrong. I have the Pro-83.

Any suggestions?

kind regards,
george




Peter Bjoern August 23rd 05 06:04 PM

On 23 Aug 2005 07:31:21 -0700, "Pred02" wrote in
rec.radio.scanner:

Nothing on the airband around my house. Perhaps I am using the scanner
the wrong way or something, when I search the airbamd 108-134. Perhaps
I will drive closer to the airport and try to get some frequencies over
there to see if it works at all.

But I bet I am doing something wrong.


Search from 118.0 to 137.0 in 25 KHz increments.

Make absolutely sure you are using AM modulation and not FM, NFM or WFM.

If you keep it going for long enough you *must* hear something eventually,
unless you scanner is broken.

Regards

Peter

D. Brown August 24th 05 04:17 AM


"Pred02" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,
I just bought a radio scanner (radioshack pro-83) and want to listen to
airband frequencies, however, I cannot find any on the airband. I tried
doing the scan, and even tuning to specific ones, like Boston ATC and
whatnot, but cannot hear anything.

Other frequencies, such as Police/Fire I hear just fine. I am
approximately 10 miles away from a major airport.

Am I doing something wrong, or I really have to be close to the airport
to hear them on the scanner?

Thanks.

Kind regards,
george


Hello Predo,

My 83 was deaf in the airband until I switched from the stock antenna to a
Diamond RH77CA.

The telescoping antenna that Radio Shack caries may also work as well. I did
notice that if you have the stalker turned on with the Diamond ant, you get
a lot of false captures. I would try the RS antenna, and if that doesn't
work you can always return it.

Good luck...



rojolo August 25th 05 07:31 AM

How about the name of the Airport ??
Maybe we can help !!


"Pred02" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,
I just bought a radio scanner (radioshack pro-83) and want to listen to
airband frequencies, however, I cannot find any on the airband. I tried
doing the scan, and even tuning to specific ones, like Boston ATC and
whatnot, but cannot hear anything.

Other frequencies, such as Police/Fire I hear just fine. I am
approximately 10 miles away from a major airport.

Am I doing something wrong, or I really have to be close to the airport
to hear them on the scanner?

Thanks.

Kind regards,
george




The Other Guy August 25th 05 01:16 PM

"Pred02" wrote in news:1124741375.452636.265120
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Hi,
I just bought a radio scanner (radioshack pro-83) and want to listen to
airband frequencies, however, I cannot find any on the airband. I tried
doing the scan, and even tuning to specific ones, like Boston ATC and
whatnot, but cannot hear anything.

Other frequencies, such as Police/Fire I hear just fine. I am
approximately 10 miles away from a major airport.

Am I doing something wrong, or I really have to be close to the airport
to hear them on the scanner?

Thanks.

Kind regards,
george



Well your first problem is it's a Radio **** I mean Shack "Compact
Handheld Scanner" and your 10 miles away from the airport.. If you where
1 mile away it might, I say might work!! The antenna on that "Compact
Handheld Scanner" is junk. You need a real antenn pluged into it.. A
better bet for what you want to do would have been the Pro-2052 heck
Radio **** only wants $149.99 for it.

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...&product%5Fid=
20-432

or a Uniden BC895XLT or any base or moble scanner with a real antenna,
any real antenna... That crapy rubber ducky thingy on that "Compact
Handheld Scanner" is just there for looks, you want to hear the airport
click the link

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...&product%5Fid=
20-043

mount it 20 feet above your home.

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D. Brown August 26th 05 04:36 AM


Well your first problem is it's a Radio **** I mean Shack "Compact
Handheld Scanner"


It's a Bearcat BC92XLT, manufactured by Uniden and repackaged for RS.

It's decent for a $69 scanner.
I like mine.



The Other George August 26th 05 09:49 PM

"D. Brown" wrote in news:UdWdnUPj58XKE5PeRVn-
:


Well your first problem is it's a Radio **** I mean Shack "Compact
Handheld Scanner"


It's a Bearcat BC92XLT, manufactured by Uniden and repackaged for RS.

It's decent for a $69 scanner.
I like mine.



$69.00 the Radio **** I mean Shack web page show it at $119.95

PRO-83 Compact Handheld Scanner with Signal Stalker and Skywarn Button

$119.99 Brand: RadioShack
Catalog #: 20-501 Model: PRO-83

"Skywarn Button" a button to warn you if the sky is falling :-)

It still needs an antenna 20' above the roof of the house to hear an
Airport 10 miles away.


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The Other George August 27th 05 04:15 AM

"rojolo" wrote in news:XAdPe.1974$eQ.330
@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:

How about the name of the Airport ??
Maybe we can help !!



Really don't need the name of the airport if he's 10 miles away and using a
hand held he is not going to hear anythang!!! He need to put an antenna up
on da roof...and here you go the name and frequ's of every airport on the
world :-)

http://www.airnav.com/airports/



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Jesse August 27th 05 05:31 AM

The Other George wrote in
:

"rojolo" wrote in news:XAdPe.1974$eQ.330
@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:

How about the name of the Airport ??
Maybe we can help !!



Really don't need the name of the airport if he's 10 miles away and
using a hand held he is not going to hear anythang!!! He need to put an
antenna up on da roof...and here you go the name and frequ's of every
airport on the world :-)

http://www.airnav.com/airports/


Correction - He may or may not hear any ground communications at 10 mile
range with stock antenna - He most certainly should hear the aircraft side
though.


Buzzygirl August 27th 05 07:08 PM

My 83 was deaf in the airband until I switched from the stock antenna to a
Diamond RH77CA.


The Diamond RH77CA is an excellent scanner antenna, much better than the
short stock duckie of the Pro-83. I just picked up the RH77CA for my 83 and
lo and behold, it "hears" much better now on all frequencies. I got the
antenna at Universal Radio. I would suggest that Pred02 pick up one of these
as it will probably make a noticeable difference in reception.

Jackie



D. Brown August 28th 05 03:15 AM


$69.00 the Radio **** I mean Shack web page show it at $119.95


Day after Thanksgiving day sale. It was on sale for $69.00


PRO-83 Compact Handheld Scanner with Signal Stalker and Skywarn Button

$119.99 Brand: RadioShack
Catalog #: 20-501 Model: PRO-83

"Skywarn Button" a button to warn you if the sky is falling :-)

It still needs an antenna 20' above the roof of the house to hear an
Airport 10 miles away.


I live 14.73 miles from our airport, with the Diamond RH77CA on my Pro-83 I
can hear the Tower, Approach and Departure as clear as day.

If he wants to put "an antenna 20' above the roof" I'm sure he could hear
the Airport, but I don't think it's necessary.



--
That Other George




D. Brown August 28th 05 07:54 PM


"Buzzygirl" wrote in message
...
My 83 was deaf in the airband until I switched from the stock antenna to
a
Diamond RH77CA.


The Diamond RH77CA is an excellent scanner antenna, much better than the
short stock duckie of the Pro-83. I just picked up the RH77CA for my 83
and
lo and behold, it "hears" much better now on all frequencies. I got the
antenna at Universal Radio. I would suggest that Pred02 pick up one of
these
as it will probably make a noticeable difference in reception.

Jackie


I really like this antenna. I purchased 3 of them from Universal Radio. I
originally bought one for my VR500, thought I lost the first RH77CA so I
ordered two more. Found the first one under the seat of my car after the
other two arrived, so I have now replaced the stock antennas on 3 of my
radios.

It really brings the bands to life, even HF. Well definitely better in HF
than the stock antennas are.



jamoran August 28th 05 09:43 PM

what you can receive is a function of how much power the target
transmits with. I am not far from KPHX airport but some frequencies I
can receive easier than others.....I would bet that they transmit with
different power outputs... even when I am at the field, some frequencies
are louder than others...

the best place for plane spotting and airport scnner listening at KPHX
is on the roof of either the terminal-3 or terminal-4 garage.

the tower is right next to terminal-3 and they are building a new tower
and tracon facility just east of termina-3

D. Brown wrote:

$69.00 the Radio **** I mean Shack web page show it at $119.95


Day after Thanksgiving day sale. It was on sale for $69.00


PRO-83 Compact Handheld Scanner with Signal Stalker and Skywarn Button

$119.99 Brand: RadioShack
Catalog #: 20-501 Model: PRO-83

"Skywarn Button" a button to warn you if the sky is falling :-)

It still needs an antenna 20' above the roof of the house to hear an
Airport 10 miles away.



I live 14.73 miles from our airport, with the Diamond RH77CA on my Pro-83 I
can hear the Tower, Approach and Departure as clear as day.

If he wants to put "an antenna 20' above the roof" I'm sure he could hear
the Airport, but I don't think it's necessary.



--
That Other George





Al Klein August 29th 05 04:38 AM

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:15:04 -0500, The Other George
said in rec.radio.scanner:

Really don't need the name of the airport if he's 10 miles away and using a
hand held he is not going to hear anythang!!!


I hear plenty from 40 miles away from an airport using the rubber
duck.

You're sure a fountain of misinformation, aren't you?

The Other George September 2nd 05 07:59 PM

Al Klein wrote in
:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:15:04 -0500, The Other George
said in rec.radio.scanner:

Really don't need the name of the airport if he's 10 miles away and
using a hand held he is not going to hear anythang!!!


I hear plenty from 40 miles away from an airport using the rubber
duck.

You're sure a fountain of misinformation, aren't you?



Then you ether live in the middle of a desert or on the planes with
nothing from you to the airport!!! Or on a mountain overlooking the
airport. I have lived 12.7 miles away from KPIT Pittsburgh International
and before I put up a Scantenna the only thing I could hear was the
planes, after going up 45 feet I now hear the tower. While in the U.S.
Army as a gun ship driver for 24 years I could never hear the tower on a
hand held if I was 4 or more miles away with out going up on a building
or being higher then the buildings I was near. And yes I am a fountain of
information :-)



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Al Klein September 3rd 05 05:11 AM

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:59:02 -0500, The Other George
said in rec.radio.scanner:

Al Klein wrote in
:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:15:04 -0500, The Other George
said in rec.radio.scanner:

Really don't need the name of the airport if he's 10 miles away and
using a hand held he is not going to hear anythang!!!


I hear plenty from 40 miles away from an airport using the rubber
duck.

You're sure a fountain of misinformation, aren't you?



Then you ether live in the middle of a desert or on the planes with
nothing from you to the airport!!! Or on a mountain overlooking the
airport. I have lived 12.7 miles away from KPIT Pittsburgh International
and before I put up a Scantenna the only thing I could hear was the
planes, after going up 45 feet I now hear the tower. While in the U.S.
Army as a gun ship driver for 24 years I could never hear the tower on a
hand held if I was 4 or more miles away with out going up on a building
or being higher then the buildings I was near. And yes I am a fountain of
information :-)


Read George's claim again - he didn't say "he is not going to hear
anything transmitted from the ground", he said "he is not going to
hear anythang". I said that I hear many air band signals. Unless you
live far from civilization, you will too - with a rubber ducky.


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