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Scott November 5th 05 02:53 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
I noticed today that my local walmart uses these for communication.
What freq range would I scan with my scanner to hear them?

Bill Crocker November 5th 05 03:32 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
Click he http://www.csgnetwork.com/frsfreqtable.html

Bill Crocker



"Scott" wrote in message
...
I noticed today that my local walmart uses these for communication.
What freq range would I scan with my scanner to hear them?




Scott November 5th 05 07:57 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:32:27 -0500, "Bill Crocker"
wrote:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything. Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?

Click he http://www.csgnetwork.com/frsfreqtable.html

Bill Crocker



"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
I noticed today that my local walmart uses these for communication.
What freq range would I scan with my scanner to hear them?




an_old_friend November 5th 05 10:17 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 

Scott wrote:
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:32:27 -0500, "Bill Crocker"
wrote:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything. Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?


a lot fo metal in the structure of most Walmarts (and a lot of other
stores) saoks up the signals

Click he http://www.csgnetwork.com/frsfreqtable.html

Bill Crocker



"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
I noticed today that my local walmart uses these for communication.
What freq range would I scan with my scanner to hear them?




Bill Crocker November 5th 05 11:53 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
In the real world, FRS does about two miles. The distance claims on FRS
radios is highly exaggerated! Yes, there are circumstances they could do
ten miles, maybe over water, or if you both were standing on high hills in
the desert. Added to that, scanners are not optimized for those
frequencies, so it may be that an inexpensive FRS radio, will do better
receiving another FRS radio, than the typical scanner can.

Bill Crocker


"Scott" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:32:27 -0500, "Bill Crocker"
wrote:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything. Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?

Click he http://www.csgnetwork.com/frsfreqtable.html

Bill Crocker



"Scott" wrote in message
. ..
I noticed today that my local walmart uses these for communication.
What freq range would I scan with my scanner to hear them?






Al Klein November 6th 05 12:10 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:22 -0500, Scott said in
rec.radio.scanner:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything.


Ten miles is hype. Even 5 miles would be hype. Maybe a little more
than 1 mile, but probably not much more.

Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?


No. Bring a scanner into the store and you'll see what frequency
they're on. Then you can see how fast the signal falls into the noise
as you drive down the road.

TNT November 6th 05 12:39 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
Also notice that FRS uses a smaller deviation than
other services. Their audio will be lower

..


"Al Klein" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:22 -0500, Scott said in
rec.radio.scanner:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything.


Ten miles is hype. Even 5 miles would be hype. Maybe a little more
than 1 mile, but probably not much more.

Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?


No. Bring a scanner into the store and you'll see what frequency
they're on. Then you can see how fast the signal falls into the noise
as you drive down the road.




hprecdocks November 6th 05 01:07 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
When FRS radios boast 5 and 10 mile range, I vision the manufacturer's test
taking place on a perfectly flat open desert. One radio transmits and the
other barely breaks squelch for a microsecond. "That proves it... put 10
mile range all over the packaging!" tout the execs.

No 400 MHz radio with a stub antenna and a tenth of a watt of power or less
is going to transmit well over 5 or 10 miles consistently... let alone a
mile or two.

"Scott" wrote in message
...

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles.




HotShot November 6th 05 02:29 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
too many computer signals coming in to them, well with all gibberish
coming across the wireless networks that they have, showing them how
many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s are ringing through there ears. there's too much rf.

my scanner doesn't work well in the local one here either. can't hear
nothing from the outside.

the other thing i always wondered was how they can sell 8 different
kinds of frs/gmrs radios that all advertised different distances. all
operate at the same frequencies and output yet they all have different
prices.


Bill Crocker wrote:
In the real world, FRS does about two miles. The distance claims on FRS
radios is highly exaggerated! Yes, there are circumstances they could do
ten miles, maybe over water, or if you both were standing on high hills in
the desert. Added to that, scanners are not optimized for those
frequencies, so it may be that an inexpensive FRS radio, will do better
receiving another FRS radio, than the typical scanner can.

Bill Crocker


Bill Crocker November 6th 05 02:51 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
Actually, you're getting FRS, and GMRS mixed up. FRS is limited to 1/2
watt, and they do not require a license. They usually do not make claims of
over two miles, and under very rare circumstances, some have actually
reached two miles. GMRS, or FRS/GMRS combination radios will have higher
wattage on the GMRS channels. Sometimes as high as five watts (ten times
the power of an FRS radio). These are the radios making claims of five,
seven, ten, and even 12 miles, but again, it doesn't happen in the real
world. Using a GMRS radio requires a license from the FCC. It cost about
$80.00, and is good for five years.

Some frequencies are shared by FRS, and GMRS, but not all. Check he

http://www.ba-marc.org/writeups/gmrs-frs-freq.htm

Bill Crocker


"HotShot" wrote in message
...
too many computer signals coming in to them, well with all gibberish
coming across the wireless networks that they have, showing them how many
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s are ringing through there ears. there's too much rf.

my scanner doesn't work well in the local one here either. can't hear
nothing from the outside.

the other thing i always wondered was how they can sell 8 different kinds
of frs/gmrs radios that all advertised different distances. all operate at
the same frequencies and output yet they all have different prices.


Bill Crocker wrote:
In the real world, FRS does about two miles. The distance claims on FRS
radios is highly exaggerated! Yes, there are circumstances they could do
ten miles, maybe over water, or if you both were standing on high hills
in the desert. Added to that, scanners are not optimized for those
frequencies, so it may be that an inexpensive FRS radio, will do better
receiving another FRS radio, than the typical scanner can.

Bill Crocker




John November 6th 05 03:37 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
Scott wrote in news:nh3qm19dqss9o1sm1is691s13ccs4uvq6b@
4ax.com:

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:32:27 -0500, "Bill Crocker"
wrote:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything. Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?

Those radios have a .75 mile range on the average. That 10 mile range crap
is just that, crap. I have NEVER heard any FRS radio go more than a couple
miles.


--
John L. Wilkerson Jr.

GMRS Consumer information website:
http://www.geocities.com/gmrspage/

[email protected] November 6th 05 03:47 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:37:32 GMT, John
wrote:

Scott wrote in news:nh3qm19dqss9o1sm1is691s13ccs4uvq6b@
4ax.com:

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:32:27 -0500, "Bill Crocker"
wrote:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything. Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?

Those radios have a .75 mile range on the average. That 10 mile range crap
is just that, crap. I have NEVER heard any FRS radio go more than a couple
miles.


mostly a matteroft too many users on the freq

all identcal 440 band units can't operate over 20 miles in the right
condictions

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Bob the Printer November 6th 05 05:25 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 

"Scott" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:32:27 -0500, "Bill Crocker"
wrote:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything. Is there a way that Wal-Mart could possibly have
them blocked from being heard?


'never get nothing' ???? Better learn how to write in English!

Anyhow, maybe they're using GMRS channels???

Or one or some of the other frequencies available to commercial customers.




Scott November 6th 05 03:46 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 00:25:57 -0500, "Bob the Printer"
**** YOU wrote:

I knew out of all the posts there would be one asshole. It looks like
you took the prize Mother ****er. Thanks to everyone else.


'never get nothing' ???? Better learn how to write in English!

Anyhow, maybe they're using GMRS channels???

Or one or some of the other frequencies available to commercial customers.




Jeff November 6th 05 05:12 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 

"Al Klein" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:22 -0500, Scott said in
rec.radio.scanner:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything.


Ten miles is hype. Even 5 miles would be hype. Maybe a little more
than 1 mile, but probably not much more.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

But Al you know how they test these range stats. 2 canoes
on a large lake using the anchor chains as an rf grd. ;-)



J



Me November 6th 05 06:22 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
In article rQqbf.519068$x96.310239@attbi_s72,
"Jeff" wrote:

"Al Klein" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:22 -0500, Scott said in
rec.radio.scanner:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything.


Ten miles is hype. Even 5 miles would be hype. Maybe a little more
than 1 mile, but probably not much more.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

But Al you know how they test these range stats. 2 canoes
on a large lake using the anchor chains as an rf grd. ;-)



J



Hey Dufus, just how much RF Ground do you think is required at 450 Mhz,
considering that 1/4 Lambda is about 4 inches??????

The one thing you fellows have overlooked is that most of these things
at WallyWorld are being used INSIDE a Concrete Rebared Structure with
few holes except the front doors.......


Me

[email protected] November 6th 05 06:28 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:22:41 GMT, Me wrote:

In article rQqbf.519068$x96.310239@attbi_s72,
"Jeff" wrote:

"Al Klein" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:22 -0500, Scott said in
rec.radio.scanner:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything.

Ten miles is hype. Even 5 miles would be hype. Maybe a little more
than 1 mile, but probably not much more.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

But Al you know how they test these range stats. 2 canoes
on a large lake using the anchor chains as an rf grd. ;-)



J



Hey Dufus, just how much RF Ground do you think is required at 450 Mhz,
considering that 1/4 Lambda is about 4 inches??????

The one thing you fellows have overlooked is that most of these things
at WallyWorld are being used INSIDE a Concrete Rebared Structure with
few holes except the front doors.......


with repsect I HAVE noted that in this thread


Me


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Jeff November 6th 05 10:57 PM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 

"Me" wrote in message ...
In article rQqbf.519068$x96.310239@attbi_s72,
"Jeff" wrote:

"Al Klein" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:22 -0500, Scott said in
rec.radio.scanner:

Thanks. One question? I've been scanning through those freq's and
never get nothing. Wal-Mart is only about 5 miles from me. From
reading these Cobra's can reach up to about 10 miles. Any idea why I'm
not hearing anything.

Ten miles is hype. Even 5 miles would be hype. Maybe a little more
than 1 mile, but probably not much more.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

But Al you know how they test these range stats. 2 canoes
on a large lake using the anchor chains as an rf grd. ;-)



J



Hey Dufus, just how much RF Ground do you think is required at 450 Mhz,
considering that 1/4 Lambda is about 4 inches??????

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

it was a joke ASSHOLE



Al Klein November 10th 05 02:03 AM

Walmart Cobra Microtalk FRS
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:12:55 GMT, "Jeff"
said in rec.radio.scanner:

But Al you know how they test these range stats. 2 canoes
on a large lake using the anchor chains as an rf grd. ;-)


And especially short "miles".


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