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Radio Shack Pro-96
What is the groups opinion of the Pro-96?
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Radio Shack Pro-96
Excellent digital scanner! On sale right now for $399.99! Be sure to get
the programming cable from Radio Shack, and Win96 software from Don Starr. Bill Crocker "Compnts" wrote in message news:ea5qf.11751$CL.3069@trnddc04... What is the groups opinion of the Pro-96? |
Radio Shack Pro-96
Nice scanner. Had mine for just over a year now, no complaints.
Compnts wrote: What is the groups opinion of the Pro-96? |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 05:38:52 -0500, "Bill Crocker"
wrote: Excellent digital scanner! On sale right now for $399.99! Be sure to get the programming cable from Radio Shack The one that *doesn't* come with the CD. The one that comes with the CD won't work on the Pro-96. |
Radio Shack Pro-96
"Bob" wrote in message t.ca... Nice scanner. Had mine for just over a year now, no complaints. Saw them on sale last night at RS. $399 for both the 2096 and 96. Free programming to boot. |
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"Compnts" pounded on the keyboard and wrote:
What is the groups opinion of the Pro-96? The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian J. Rueger | Hampton Div. of Fire & Rescue | "Who dares wins" Capt/Paramedic | Fire Station #5 | Hampton, VA. B.S. Comm/I/SEL Pilot | MSgt, USAF (Ret.) 49199 | NREMT-P Check out my home page: http://members.cox.net/brueger Some of my photography: http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/34185.html "Life's too short to drink LITE beer!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Skuby wrote:
The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. I add: I agree that the PRO-96 is a fabulous scanner. You need to purchase Don Starr's product "Win96" to really make it a powerful scanning device. Win96 allows you to open up military aircraft frequencies as well as to directly program the PRO-96 directly from the RadioReference database. You should note that here in the Detroit, MI area, we are having problems decoding the Detroit Police Department's new digital system. This problem is not specific to the PRO-96, the Uniden 396 also exhibits the same problem. Both companies are examining the problem and don't yet have an answer for us as to whether the problem will be fixable. |
Radio Shack Pro-96
Byung Myung Sying wrote: Skuby wrote: The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. I add: I agree that the PRO-96 is a fabulous scanner. You need to purchase Don Starr's product "Win96" to really make it a powerful scanning device. Win96 allows you to open up military aircraft frequencies as well as to directly program the PRO-96 directly from the RadioReference database. You should note that here in the Detroit, MI area, we are having problems decoding the Detroit Police Department's new digital system. This problem is not specific to the PRO-96, the Uniden 396 also exhibits the same problem. Both companies are examining the problem and don't yet have an answer for us as to whether the problem will be fixable. My pro 2096 is one month old and even with Win96 programing The audio is REAL CHOPPY. I hear every other word said Here in GENESEE COUNTY . Mi ( Flint, Mi area) Ps. The city of Flint Decided Not to use the Digital system.. I am beginning to think they WERE WISE after looking at all the foums on the Motorola apco-25 system. |
Radio Shack Pro-96
Dear "no one"
You sure have an unusual name. Please try the following with your 2096: Use the control channel for the Owosso system. It is 868.9375 MHz. In other words, do not use the Genesee control channel on 868.8875 MHz. The Owosso system uses only one transmitter thus avoiding the multiple-transmitter-multipath of the Genesee system. The down side is that the Owosso system only has the Genesee dispatch circuits and systems west, north, and south of Genesee. It will be interesting to learn what quality of signals you receive by using the Owosso system. Regards, Mac -- J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A. Home: "no one" wrote in message . com... Byung Myung Sying wrote: Skuby wrote: The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. I add: I agree that the PRO-96 is a fabulous scanner. You need to purchase Don Starr's product "Win96" to really make it a powerful scanning device. Win96 allows you to open up military aircraft frequencies as well as to directly program the PRO-96 directly from the RadioReference database. You should note that here in the Detroit, MI area, we are having problems decoding the Detroit Police Department's new digital system. This problem is not specific to the PRO-96, the Uniden 396 also exhibits the same problem. Both companies are examining the problem and don't yet have an answer for us as to whether the problem will be fixable. My pro 2096 is one month old and even with Win96 programing The audio is REAL CHOPPY. I hear every other word said Here in GENESEE COUNTY . Mi ( Flint, Mi area) Ps. The city of Flint Decided Not to use the Digital system.. I am beginning to think they WERE WISE after looking at all the foums on the Motorola apco-25 system. |
Radio Shack Pro-96 ( Choppy Audio)
J. Mc Laughlin wrote: Dear "no one" You sure have an unusual name. Please try the following with your 2096: Use the control channel for the Owosso system. It is 868.9375 MHz. In other words, do not use the Genesee control channel on 868.8875 MHz. The Owosso system uses only one transmitter thus avoiding the multiple-transmitter-multipath of the Genesee system. The down side is that the Owosso system only has the Genesee dispatch circuits and systems west, north, and south of Genesee. It will be interesting to learn what quality of signals you receive by using the Owosso system. Thanks! I just got off the phone with Radio Shack and There answer is that There is something Wrong with The System. I say That this is UNTRUE. If there was a problem with the System, All the Police Cars and Emergency vehicles who are trying to Save lives would be hampered . also If it Was true , I am Sure That my LOCAL agencies Would DROP the system and go Back to WhaTEVER works. It sounds to me that is is a DESIGN problem with the PRO 2096, and Radioshack needs to Put out an UPDATE to the Firmware or a Complete RECALL ! A call to my LOCAL radio shack came up with more info. The manager says That all the pro2096 she has sold, Every person is complaing of this problem, They are issuing lots of REFUNDS ! By the Way, Tech at fort worth Says the RADIO/SCANNER (PRO 2096) is Still an ACTIVE product ! Even tho there is no mention of it on Radio Shacks Website ! As we all Know, The Webmaster At Radio Shack.com Needs to View His or HER work and Make sure it is Correct ! Regards, Mac -- J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A. Home: "no one" wrote in message . com... Byung Myung Sying wrote: Skuby wrote: The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. I add: I agree that the PRO-96 is a fabulous scanner. You need to purchase Don Starr's product "Win96" to really make it a powerful scanning device. Win96 allows you to open up military aircraft frequencies as well as to directly program the PRO-96 directly from the RadioReference database. You should note that here in the Detroit, MI area, we are having problems decoding the Detroit Police Department's new digital system. This problem is not specific to the PRO-96, the Uniden 396 also exhibits the same problem. Both companies are examining the problem and don't yet have an answer for us as to whether the problem will be fixable. My pro 2096 is one month old and even with Win96 programing The audio is REAL CHOPPY. I hear every other word said Here in GENESEE COUNTY . Mi ( Flint, Mi area) Ps. The city of Flint Decided Not to use the Digital system.. I am beginning to think they WERE WISE after looking at all the foums on the Motorola apco-25 system. |
Radio Shack Pro-96 ( Choppy Audio)
no one wrote: J. Mc Laughlin wrote: Dear "no one" You sure have an unusual name. Please try the following with your 2096: Use the control channel for the Owosso system. It is 868.9375 MHz. In other words, do not use the Genesee control channel on 868.8875 MHz. The Owosso system uses only one transmitter thus avoiding the multiple-transmitter-multipath of the Genesee Tried this and I Got NO RECEPTION what so ever with the pro 2096 ( Signals) system. The down side is that the Owosso system only has the Genesee dispatch circuits and systems west, north, and south of Genesee. It will be interesting to learn what quality of signals you receive by using the Owosso system. Thanks! I just got off the phone with Radio Shack and There answer is that There is something Wrong with The System. I say That this is UNTRUE. If there was a problem with the System, All the Police Cars and Emergency vehicles who are trying to Save lives would be hampered . also If it Was true , I am Sure That my LOCAL agencies Would DROP the system and go Back to WhaTEVER works. It sounds to me that is is a DESIGN problem with the PRO 2096, and Radioshack needs to Put out an UPDATE to the Firmware or a Complete RECALL ! A call to my LOCAL radio shack came up with more info. The manager says That all the pro2096 she has sold, Every person is complaing of this problem, They are issuing lots of REFUNDS ! By the Way, Tech at fort worth Says the RADIO/SCANNER (PRO 2096) is Still an ACTIVE product ! Even tho there is no mention of it on Radio Shacks Website ! As we all Know, The Webmaster At Radio Shack.com Needs to View His or HER work and Make sure it is Correct ! Regards, Mac -- J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A. Home: "no one" wrote in message . com... Byung Myung Sying wrote: Skuby wrote: The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. I add: I agree that the PRO-96 is a fabulous scanner. You need to purchase Don Starr's product "Win96" to really make it a powerful scanning device. Win96 allows you to open up military aircraft frequencies as well as to directly program the PRO-96 directly from the RadioReference database. You should note that here in the Detroit, MI area, we are having problems decoding the Detroit Police Department's new digital system. This problem is not specific to the PRO-96, the Uniden 396 also exhibits the same problem. Both companies are examining the problem and don't yet have an answer for us as to whether the problem will be fixable. My pro 2096 is one month old and even with Win96 programing The audio is REAL CHOPPY. I hear every other word said Here in GENESEE COUNTY . Mi ( Flint, Mi area) Ps. The city of Flint Decided Not to use the Digital system.. I am beginning to think they WERE WISE after looking at all the foums on the Motorola apco-25 system. |
Radio Shack Pro-96
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:47:35 -0500, "J. Mc Laughlin"
wrote: The Owosso system uses only one transmitter thus avoiding the multiple-transmitter-multipath of the Genesee system. If you're talking about the MPSCS, it's a Motorola system, so there's only 1 control channel on the air at a time from any site. Multipath isn't caused by multiple transmitters, it's caused by signal reflections. |
Radio Shack Pro-96 ( Choppy Audio)
Collapse the antenna fully or replace with a better quality 800 MHz
antenna. Worked for me, "choppy audio" is no more ! On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:24:19 GMT, no one wrote: J. Mc Laughlin wrote: Dear "no one" You sure have an unusual name. Please try the following with your 2096: Use the control channel for the Owosso system. It is 868.9375 MHz. In other words, do not use the Genesee control channel on 868.8875 MHz. The Owosso system uses only one transmitter thus avoiding the multiple-transmitter-multipath of the Genesee system. The down side is that the Owosso system only has the Genesee dispatch circuits and systems west, north, and south of Genesee. It will be interesting to learn what quality of signals you receive by using the Owosso system. Thanks! I just got off the phone with Radio Shack and There answer is that There is something Wrong with The System. I say That this is UNTRUE. If there was a problem with the System, All the Police Cars and Emergency vehicles who are trying to Save lives would be hampered . also If it Was true , I am Sure That my LOCAL agencies Would DROP the system and go Back to WhaTEVER works. It sounds to me that is is a DESIGN problem with the PRO 2096, and Radioshack needs to Put out an UPDATE to the Firmware or a Complete RECALL ! A call to my LOCAL radio shack came up with more info. The manager says That all the pro2096 she has sold, Every person is complaing of this problem, They are issuing lots of REFUNDS ! By the Way, Tech at fort worth Says the RADIO/SCANNER (PRO 2096) is Still an ACTIVE product ! Even tho there is no mention of it on Radio Shacks Website ! As we all Know, The Webmaster At Radio Shack.com Needs to View His or HER work and Make sure it is Correct ! Regards, Mac -- J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A. Home: "no one" wrote in message . com... Byung Myung Sying wrote: Skuby wrote: The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. I add: I agree that the PRO-96 is a fabulous scanner. You need to purchase Don Starr's product "Win96" to really make it a powerful scanning device. Win96 allows you to open up military aircraft frequencies as well as to directly program the PRO-96 directly from the RadioReference database. You should note that here in the Detroit, MI area, we are having problems decoding the Detroit Police Department's new digital system. This problem is not specific to the PRO-96, the Uniden 396 also exhibits the same problem. Both companies are examining the problem and don't yet have an answer for us as to whether the problem will be fixable. My pro 2096 is one month old and even with Win96 programing The audio is REAL CHOPPY. I hear every other word said Here in GENESEE COUNTY . Mi ( Flint, Mi area) Ps. The city of Flint Decided Not to use the Digital system.. I am beginning to think they WERE WISE after looking at all the foums on the Motorola apco-25 system. |
Radio Shack Pro-96 ( Choppy Audio)
someone wrote: Collapse the antenna fully or replace with a better quality 800 MHz antenna. Worked for me, "choppy audio" is no more ! I just tried it and it DIDNOT cure the problem On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:24:19 GMT, no one wrote: J. Mc Laughlin wrote: Dear "no one" You sure have an unusual name. Please try the following with your 2096: Use the control channel for the Owosso system. It is 868.9375 MHz. In other words, do not use the Genesee control channel on 868.8875 MHz. The Owosso system uses only one transmitter thus avoiding the multiple-transmitter-multipath of the Genesee system. The down side is that the Owosso system only has the Genesee dispatch circuits and systems west, north, and south of Genesee. It will be interesting to learn what quality of signals you receive by using the Owosso system. Thanks! I just got off the phone with Radio Shack and There answer is that There is something Wrong with The System. I say That this is UNTRUE. If there was a problem with the System, All the Police Cars and Emergency vehicles who are trying to Save lives would be hampered . also If it Was true , I am Sure That my LOCAL agencies Would DROP the system and go Back to WhaTEVER works. It sounds to me that is is a DESIGN problem with the PRO 2096, and Radioshack needs to Put out an UPDATE to the Firmware or a Complete RECALL ! A call to my LOCAL radio shack came up with more info. The manager says That all the pro2096 she has sold, Every person is complaing of this problem, They are issuing lots of REFUNDS ! By the Way, Tech at fort worth Says the RADIO/SCANNER (PRO 2096) is Still an ACTIVE product ! Even tho there is no mention of it on Radio Shacks Website ! As we all Know, The Webmaster At Radio Shack.com Needs to View His or HER work and Make sure it is Correct ! Regards, Mac -- J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A. Home: "no one" wrote in message gy.com... Byung Myung Sying wrote: Skuby wrote: The best scanner that I have ever owned and I have owned 5 in the past. I add: I agree that the PRO-96 is a fabulous scanner. You need to purchase Don Starr's product "Win96" to really make it a powerful scanning device. Win96 allows you to open up military aircraft frequencies as well as to directly program the PRO-96 directly from the RadioReference database. You should note that here in the Detroit, MI area, we are having problems decoding the Detroit Police Department's new digital system. This problem is not specific to the PRO-96, the Uniden 396 also exhibits the same problem. Both companies are examining the problem and don't yet have an answer for us as to whether the problem will be fixable. My pro 2096 is one month old and even with Win96 programing The audio is REAL CHOPPY. I hear every other word said Here in GENESEE COUNTY . Mi ( Flint, Mi area) Ps. The city of Flint Decided Not to use the Digital system.. I am beginning to think they WERE WISE after looking at all the foums on the Motorola apco-25 system. |
Radio Shack Pro-96
Dear Mr.Klein:
It is not the control channel that is the problem. It may be sent from only one transmitter (and thus suffer only the old-fashion multipath type of distortion). In other words, it appears that the control channel is decoded successfully. This could be due to the existence of a robust type of coding that combats old-fashion multipath type of distortion. However, when mobile stations are sent by the control channel off to one of the allocated frequencies, problems seem to occur with the digitally encoded voice signals. Since systems that use a total of one transmitting site do not appear to suffer and systems that use multiple transmitting sites do suffer, one hypothecates reasons. A form of multipath distortion exists that is due to the use of multiple, well spaced transmitters that are transmitting at the same time. That is the type of distortion I called "multiple-transmitter-multipath." One might guess that if one is close to one of the transmitters (of a multiple transmitter system) then one would not have a problems because the near transmitter's emissions would dominate. I have not tested this hypothesis. However, when one is receiving multiple transmissions of approximately equal amplitude but transmissions that have encountered different delays, then one expects to see what looks like multipath. An enhanced receiver can remove the problem at a cost that includes slight delay. A "low cost" receiver without enhanced processing may have a hard time decoding signals that have been contaminated by multipath of any kind. When listening to a one transmitter site (Owosso), my BCD396T receives almost all voice signals well most of the time. When listening to a system (APCO25) that uses multiple transmitting sites (Genesee), my BCD396T produces distorted audio much of the time. At my location, the signal from the control channel of the multiple transmitter system is somewhat stronger than the signal from the one transmitter system. Even back in the RTTY days with each "bit" being 20 to 22 mS long, multipath was capable of distorting signals. The much higher data rates of the digital system in question makes the decoding-in-the-presence-of-one-type-or-another-multipath difficult. In short: multipath can be caused by means other than signal reflections and the present "low cost" receivers seem not to contain multipath resistance processing. Regards, Mac -- J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A. Home: "Al Klein" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:47:35 -0500, "J. Mc Laughlin" wrote: The Owosso system uses only one transmitter thus avoiding the multiple-transmitter-multipath of the Genesee system. If you're talking about the MPSCS, it's a Motorola system, so there's only 1 control channel on the air at a time from any site. Multipath isn't caused by multiple transmitters, it's caused by signal reflections. |
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Dear "no one"
Thank you for describing your experience. It may well be that you are too far away from the Owosso system for your receiver to receive a useful signal. I am on the western edge of Genesee County and I have no difficulty receiving both systems. Regards, Mac -- J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A. Home: "no one" wrote in message m... no one wrote: Tried this and I Got NO RECEPTION what so ever with the pro 2096 ( Signals) |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:53:50 -0500, "J. Mc Laughlin"
wrote: However, when mobile stations are sent by the control channel off to one of the allocated frequencies, problems seem to occur with the digitally encoded voice signals. Since systems that use a total of one transmitting site do not appear to suffer and systems that use multiple transmitting sites do suffer, one hypothecates reasons. A form of multipath distortion exists that is due to the use of multiple, well spaced transmitters that are transmitting at the same time. That is the type of distortion I called "multiple-transmitter-multipath." Multiple site Motorola systems don't transmit on the same frequency from different sites. In theory what you say is true (although it's not "multipath", it's plain old simple interference - multipath refers to a signal from a single transmitter arriving over multiple paths, and nothing else), but if you look at the actual in-the-field sites, you'll see that your theory isn't put into practice. One might guess that if one is close to one of the transmitters (of a multiple transmitter system) then one would not have a problems because the near transmitter's emissions would dominate. I have not tested this hypothesis. It's not an hypothesis, it's called "capture effect", and it's a property of FM receivers. When listening to a one transmitter site (Owosso), my BCD396T receives almost all voice signals well most of the time. When listening to a system (APCO25) that uses multiple transmitting sites (Genesee), my BCD396T produces distorted audio much of the time. Genesee is *a* site - in a larger system that encompasses many sites.. The fact that it lists more than 1 control frequency doesn't mean that it has multiple control channel transmitters on the air at the same time. At my location, the signal from the control channel of the multiple transmitter system is somewhat stronger than the signal from the one transmitter system. Since there's only 1 control transmitter on any one frequency at any one time for any one site, you're analyzing the situation incorrectly. You may be getting interference of some sort, but it's not due to multiple control channel transmitters from the same system at the same location. In short: multipath can be caused by means other than signal reflections Except that what you're describing isn't called multipath. Multipath is the term used to refer to signals from a single transmitter arriving over multiple paths - hence "multi-path". |
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"Al Klein" wrote in message "hence multi-path" Is that the same thing as what ham radio operators of 2 meter repeaters call "intermod" ? H.J. |
Radio Shack Pro-96
In a simplistic way, Intermod (intermodulation distortion) is the result of
two or more separate signals being combined. The intermixing of these signals creates distortion of the signal you are receiving. In a round about way, multi-path is similar because the combined multiple images are out of phase and they will mix in the same way as do two unrelated signals, and create distortion. "Honest John" wrote in message ... "Al Klein" wrote in message "hence multi-path" Is that the same thing as what ham radio operators of 2 meter repeaters call "intermod" ? H.J. |
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"Doc" wrote in message In a simplistic way, Intermod (intermodulation distortion) is the result of two or more separate signals being combined. The intermixing of these signals creates distortion of the signal you are receiving. In a round about way, multi-path is similar because the combined multiple images are out of phase and they will mix in the same way as do two unrelated signals, and create distortion. THANKS, H.J. |
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Honest John wrote regarding multipath:
Is that the same thing as what ham radio operators of 2 meter repeaters call "intermod" ? No. Multipath is from the same signal arriving via two different paths (typically resulting from a reflection), one of which is delayed enough to cause phase cancellation. Intermod is from separete signals of different frequencies mixing in some nonlinear componenent either in or near the receiving apparatus, producing signals that are the sum and difference of the two frequencies. -- John Miller |
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I think I did say "in a simplistic way". Yes I do understand what intermod
is, however, I thought a discussion of 3rd order intercept series was not in order to answer his question. I was using the KISS approach. "John Miller" wrote in message ... Honest John wrote regarding multipath: Is that the same thing as what ham radio operators of 2 meter repeaters call "intermod" ? No. Multipath is from the same signal arriving via two different paths (typically resulting from a reflection), one of which is delayed enough to cause phase cancellation. Intermod is from separete signals of different frequencies mixing in some nonlinear componenent either in or near the receiving apparatus, producing signals that are the sum and difference of the two frequencies. -- John Miller |
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Doc wrote:
I think I did say "in a simplistic way". Yes I do understand what intermod is, however, I thought a discussion of 3rd order intercept series was not in order to answer his question. I was using the KISS approach. Check your threading, Doc, and you'll see that it was not your post I was responding to -- in fact I don't think it had even hit my server yet. So you weren't being contradicted. -- John Miller insert pithy quote here |
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Sorry for jumping to conclusions...
My thread shows your post as a reply to mine. That's probably because I had just purged old posts. "John Miller" wrote in message ... Doc wrote: I think I did say "in a simplistic way". Yes I do understand what intermod is, however, I thought a discussion of 3rd order intercept series was not in order to answer his question. I was using the KISS approach. Check your threading, Doc, and you'll see that it was not your post I was responding to -- in fact I don't think it had even hit my server yet. So you weren't being contradicted. -- John Miller insert pithy quote here |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:50:02 GMT, John Miller wrote:
Intermod is from separete signals of different frequencies mixing in some nonlinear componenent either in or near the receiving apparatus Or the transmitter apparatus. (We have a great one here, resulting from a hospital paging transmitter intermodding with just about everything on a hill that has enough RF floating around to run a few homes. The paging transmitter - that's supposed to cover only the interior of the building - is dirty enough and strong enough to cause intermod in tower joints, fences, who knows what, 5 miles away.) |
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