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I'm sick of these Frs radios. I want a high power radio that I can take
hiking.
Give me a clue please.
Maybe one that uses repeaters but I am open to anything.

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:39:07 -0700, "Fastau B"
wrote:

I'm sick of these Frs radios. I want a high power radio that I can take
hiking.
Give me a clue please.
Maybe one that uses repeaters but I am open to anything.


What kind of distance are you trying to get? Have you tried the GMRS radios?
They can be had in a model that puts out 5 watts instead of 1/2 watt that
you get out of the FRS. They claim 14 miles. They of course do not go that
far unless you are on the water, but they will give you a hell of a lot more
range than the FRS. The ones made by Midland run about $60.00 a pair for the
ones that use AA batteries.
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
[Lazarus Long]

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"Evan Platt" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:15:00 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

What kind of distance are you trying to get? Have you tried the GMRS
radios?
They can be had in a model that puts out 5 watts instead of 1/2 watt that
you get out of the FRS. They claim 14 miles. They of course do not go that
far unless you are on the water, but they will give you a hell of a lot
more
range than the FRS. The ones made by Midland run about $60.00 a pair for
the
ones that use AA batteries.

Umm yeah, that's more or less what I said, and you replied to my post
cutting out where I said that.

You won't get 5 miles with GMRS. And if you're hiking, and on the
other side of a mountain as someone else, not much but a repeater will
help.

Ok, I was responding to
I had not seen the original post. I did not realize you were posting and
answering yourself under different screen names. shrug

--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
[Lazarus Long]

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An amateur radio handi-talkie with a decent antenna will get out a lot
farther than 5 miles, especially using a repeater. The most powerful handies
put out 7 watts of power. In order to get an amateur radio license, you'll
need to buy a study guide and take a written exam-- it's not difficult, but
it will take some time to study for it. It doesn't cost much for the
license, but there will be a materials fee to the volunteer examiner who
administers the FCC exam, about $20. And a good handi-talkie will cost more
than $150.

Jackie

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Hey,

Get yourself one of those there GMRS radios. You'll need a license, and a
repeater close by. blah blah blah

"Fastau B" wrote in message
. ..
I'm sick of these Frs radios. I want a high power radio that I can take
hiking.
Give me a clue please.
Maybe one that uses repeaters but I am open to anything.

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What about GMRS??? Anyone ever heard of those?

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"Fastau B" wrote in message
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What about GMRS??? Anyone ever heard of those?




That's what we were just talking about. If your news feed is not showing you
the posts on them try looking at the group on Google. The GMRS are available
in models that start at 1watt, and go to as high as 5 watts that I have
seen. The Midland ones that I use at work are 5 watt. They claim 14 mile
range, but that's not going to happen in the real world. They do work one
hell of a lot better than the FRS and the older 1 watt GMRS I used to use at
work. We use them in and out of buildings. With the 5 watt there is never a
problem no matter where we are. The run about $60.00 a pair for the ones
that take AA batteries. Should give you some pretty good range in the woods.
I have found they also work great when traveling to keep in touch with
multiple vehicles.
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
[Lazarus Long]

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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:28:23 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

The run about $60.00 a pair for the ones that take AA batteries.

5 watts out of a pair of AA cells - probably closer to 10 watts drain
on the batteries to get the 5 watts transmit - would limit you to
about 3 or 4 hours of use, so you'd better carry spare batteries.

And in the woods at 450 MHz (most people hike when there are leaves on
the trees, not snow on the ground), the range is even more limited
without a repeater nearby. Over the other side of a decent hill
without a repeater? If it works buy lottery tickets - they'll win.

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"Al Klein" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:28:23 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

The run about $60.00 a pair for the ones that take AA batteries.

5 watts out of a pair of AA cells - probably closer to 10 watts drain
on the batteries to get the 5 watts transmit - would limit you to
about 3 or 4 hours of use, so you'd better carry spare batteries.

And in the woods at 450 MHz (most people hike when there are leaves on
the trees, not snow on the ground), the range is even more limited
without a repeater nearby. Over the other side of a decent hill
without a repeater? If it works buy lottery tickets - they'll win.

Well either Midland lies about them, or no one told the radios then. I use
them for 2 12 hour shifts on a set of AA rechargeable, and have never had
them die in the middle of a shift. Of course we are not talking for 12 hours
to each other. If they were in constant use as in we had nothing better to
do than chat all night, I suppose I would have to recharge them a couple
times a shift.
We tried them tonight at 5 miles, with me in one building, and the other
guy in another building 5 miles apart and we could talk fine. Don't know if
the leaves are harder on the transmition than the walls, don't really care
as I am not out in the woods with these.
I know little about radios, but from reading this group for years I do get
one hell of a laugh out of all the experts though. One says one thing, then
someone else with a degree clams that's completely wrong and on and on it
goes. The threads about antenna's often have me laughing good.
I know with the old set of these I had, when we were in Mt. Rainer Nation
Park talking from car to car, when we could not see the other cars because
they were on the other side of woods, those worked great. They claimed 4
watts of power. Now I'm sure some experts here will tell everyone that they
can't do that and even have slide rule equations to prove it can't work. For
me, I will not tell the radios, as they do not know, so they just work.
shrug
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
[Lazarus Long]

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"Evan Platt" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:20:24 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

Ok, I was responding to
I had not seen the original post. I did not realize you were posting and
answering yourself under different screen names. shrug

Huh? You replied to my post, yet omitted my reply. I did not post and
'answer myself'.

Public school grad, right Evan?
My taxes working for me. shrug
--
Stupidity should be painful

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Alex Clayton wrote in message
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"Evan Platt" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:20:24 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

Ok, I was responding to
I had not seen the original post. I did not realize you were posting and
answering yourself under different screen names. shrug

Huh? You replied to my post, yet omitted my reply. I did not post and
'answer myself'.

Public school grad, right Evan?
My taxes working for me. shrug
--
Stupidity should be painful

___ |\_/| ___
/ \_ |` ' | _/ \
/ \/ \/ \
/ SPANK \
\/\/\/\ ______ /\/\/\/
X X

Ouch!

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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:22:58 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

Now I'm sure some experts here will tell everyone that they
can't do that

I'm just telling what I've seen with my 5 watt, 450 MHz radios under
various conditions. My degrees work for many miles and never need
recharging, but they don't help communications a bit.

Sorry about your pain, though.

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"Al Klein" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:22:58 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

Now I'm sure some experts here will tell everyone that they
can't do that

I'm just telling what I've seen with my 5 watt, 450 MHz radios under
various conditions. My degrees work for many miles and never need
recharging, but they don't help communications a bit.

Sorry about your pain, though.

Don't know, as I said my knowledge of radios and scanners is pretty limited.
All I "know" is what I experience. Reading this group often has be more
confused than when I started. The antenna threads are some of the best. I
had at one time though about getting some kind of a roof antenna for the
house, but after reading through many threads here on them never bothered.
You get a whole lot of tech talk, with some saying what will work, while
others say the same thing will not work and why. shrug
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
[Lazarus Long]

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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:22:35 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

"Al Klein" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:22:58 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

Now I'm sure some experts here will tell everyone that they
can't do that

I'm just telling what I've seen with my 5 watt, 450 MHz radios under
various conditions. My degrees work for many miles and never need
recharging, but they don't help communications a bit.

Sorry about your pain, though.

Don't know, as I said my knowledge of radios and scanners is pretty limited.

But you don't mind sharing your opinion with others. Others who know
less than you do, and may actually accept your opinion as being worth
something - then waste their money.

You're correct though - no one should accept what they read on the
internet as being worth more than the pixels it's made of - you proved
that.

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"Al Klein" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:22:35 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

"Al Klein" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:22:58 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

Now I'm sure some experts here will tell everyone that they
can't do that

I'm just telling what I've seen with my 5 watt, 450 MHz radios under
various conditions. My degrees work for many miles and never need
recharging, but they don't help communications a bit.

Sorry about your pain, though.

Don't know, as I said my knowledge of radios and scanners is pretty
limited.

But you don't mind sharing your opinion with others. Others who know
less than you do, and may actually accept your opinion as being worth
something - then waste their money.

You're correct though - no one should accept what they read on the
internet as being worth more than the pixels it's made of - you proved
that.

ROTFLMAO!!
Touched a nerve there huh? Well I'm sure your Mom is still impressed with
you Al. You just keep telling the world how smart you are, after all you
believe it. It's a shame if anyone spends money on what I use only to find
out it works, while you being much smarter can tell them why what they have
should not work.
--
Stupidity should be painful

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:55:29 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

ROTFLMAO!!
Touched a nerve there

Did I? Good - I meant to. Look up "pompous" in a dictionary. There
should be a picture of a quadruped near it. Looks just like you.

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If you go with GMRS radios, and plan to use them with a repeater, make sure
the radios support that function. It requires you to transmit on one
frequency, and receive on another. Many repeaters also require CTCSS, or
possibly DCS capability as well.

Most of the "bubble pack" radios do not work with repeaters. Look for deals
on used Motorola, Kenwood, etc.

Bill Crocker


"Fastau B" wrote in message
. ..
I'm sick of these Frs radios. I want a high power radio that I can take
hiking.
Give me a clue please.
Maybe one that uses repeaters but I am open to anything.