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If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
On 22 Jul 2006 09:02:12 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote: not even the Ham Code matter to them only CW Part of that code is honesty. How honest is it to memorize answers to a test? |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
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If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
Slow Code wrote: wrote in oups.com: CW kills. Survival of the fittest. The fit get a ham license. guess you have not been a hamfest lately |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
On 22 Jul 2006 12:45:02 -0700, "
wrote: Al Klein wrote: On 22 Jul 2006 09:02:12 -0700, "an old friend" wrote: Part of that code is honesty. How honest is it to memorize answers to a test? absolutely and conpletely honest By taking the test you're claiming that you understand the questions and know the answers. By memorizing the answers you're not learning enough to understand the questions. But I wouldn't expect you to understand what "honesty" means. how balanced is to to place CW over all over ham knowledge? No one is, any more than by requiring people to know the law one is putting the law "over all ham knowledge". How progressive is it? How progressive is it to not require people to know ... oh, yeah, that's progressive, since the new thing is to hand out licenses because people have some kind of "right" to get on the air. how loyal is it to denny the nation the benifits of allowing more operators What "benefits" does the country get from more people using radios who don't know the first thing about them? (Whatever "denny" means.) to aquire the expence needed to truely work on hf You don't acquire knowledge (which is what's needed) by playing with a radio. how patriotic is it to keep a staion forom aquiing the skill to be ready for service to conutry and community? How does playing CB on the ham bands give one "the skill to be ready for service to conutry and community"? Or any skill, other than getting what you want? You don't acquire skill by doing something that requires no skill. And you, particularly, don't acquire knowledge by demanding something for nothing. |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:14:17 GMT, Slow Code wrote:
The fit get a ham license. All the rest get cell phones, CB, and shortwave listening. No, SC - in today's society we can't hurt people's feelings, so the loud get anything they want. |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
Al Klein wrote: On 22 Jul 2006 12:45:02 -0700, " wrote: Al Klein wrote: On 22 Jul 2006 09:02:12 -0700, "an old friend" wrote: Part of that code is honesty. How honest is it to memorize answers to a test? absolutely and conpletely honest By taking the test you're claiming that you understand the questions and know the answers. By memorizing the answers you're not learning enough to understand the questions. no, one is claiming they can pass the test which is the only requirement But I wouldn't expect you to understand what "honesty" means. I do know what honesty means and you don't employ it how balanced is to to place CW over all over ham knowledge? No one is, any more than by requiring people to know the law one is putting the law "over all ham knowledge" you certainly are but no one is required to know the law at all merely happpening to obey it is enough the current system place CW over all over modes combined any statement to the contary is dishonest .. How progressive is it? How progressive is it to not require people to know ... oh, yeah, that's progressive, since the new thing is to hand out licenses because people have some kind of "right" to get on the air. try that agin is english if you please best I can make out is another of your snide (and unfreindly and illcosidered) slaps at newer ops that have obeyed the rules how loyal is it to denny the nation the benifits of allowing more operators What "benefits" does the country get from more people using radios who don't know the first thing about them? (Whatever "denny" means.) you statement makes no sense since obviously anyone that has a radio and can turn it on knows at least the first thing ,if he/she can get on the air he know a few more to aquire the expence needed to truely work on hf You don't acquire knowledge (which is what's needed) by playing with a radio. knowledge is needed why? It is helpfull I grant you but needed vs experence well that is Bull**** I know more I supect about radio and RF than you having studied EM waves and their proerty at the College level and yet this knowledge is only mildly usefull if I am on the HF bands as I often am for Feild day or something to be a more effective operator I need expernce at HF not knowledge of circuts how patriotic is it to keep a staion forom aquiing the skill to be ready for service to conutry and community? How does playing CB on the ham bands give one "the skill to be ready for service to conutry and community"? what is playing CB mean? other than then pejoritive Or any skill, other than getting what you want? babble all you like You don't acquire skill by doing something that requires no skill. so you are claiming this is NO skill in passing traffic at HF I think I could find people that woluld disagree with you And you, particularly, don't acquire knowledge by demanding something for nothing. no knowledge is aquired by learning Morse Code certainly no secert of the unverse is derived for it No one is suggesting that ANYONE be given something for nothing but it is a requirement of law that restictions in access to PUBLIC reasources must be reasonable in nature knowledge of Morse code is not realected to prevelegdes it brings ask the Armmy how many CW opperators it uses in routine affairs, the answer is zero (intel is not for this prupose routine nor is specail ops) |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
Al Klein wrote: On 22 Jul 2006 12:45:02 -0700, " wrote: Al Klein wrote: On 22 Jul 2006 09:02:12 -0700, "an old friend" wrote: Part of that code is honesty. How honest is it to memorize answers to a test? absolutely and conpletely honest By taking the test you're claiming that you understand the questions and know the answers. By releasing the Question Pools, the FCC is claiming that you must memorize the answers. No one is claiming any such thing. By memorizing the answers you're not learning enough to understand the questions. But I wouldn't expect you to understand what "honesty" means. Why not? how balanced is to to place CW over all over ham knowledge? No one is, any more than by requiring people to know the law one is putting the law "over all ham knowledge". CW is pass/fail. To fail CW denies all HF privs (except for Alaska). How progressive is it? How progressive is it to not require people to know ... oh, yeah, that's progressive, since the new thing is to hand out licenses because people have some kind of "right" to get on the air. Then why is it with the prospect of losing the CW Exam, that you'se guys want to "beef up" the written exams? how loyal is it to denny the nation the benifits of allowing more operators What "benefits" does the country get from more people using radios who don't know the first thing about them? (Whatever "denny" means.) It's always been that way. You could even buy Heathkits already assembled. (and Get a context clue: deny). to aquire the expence needed to truely work on hf You don't acquire knowledge (which is what's needed) by playing with a radio. Then the military has wasted billions of dollars over the years "training" radio operators. how patriotic is it to keep a staion forom aquiing the skill to be ready for service to conutry and community? How does playing CB on the ham bands give one "the skill to be ready for service to conutry and community"? Who knows? That's not what Mark is talking about, is it? Or any skill, other than getting what you want? You don't acquire skill by doing something that requires no skill. So it really is all about CW. Why have a written Exam at all? And you, particularly, don't acquire knowledge by demanding something for nothing. The requirements for an amateur radio license have been all over the map over the history of the service. The ORIGINAL amateur radio license had no Morse Code Exam, even when Morse Code was the only means of communicating. Get over it. Everyone else is moving on. |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
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The requirements for an amateur radio license have been all over the map over the history of the service. The ORIGINAL amateur radio license had no Morse Code Exam, even when Morse Code was the only means of communicating. Therein lies the solution to the problem. Make A1 the only mode allowed within amateur radio - solves all the problems, doesn't it? No more mode arguments, no more band crowding, no more expensive equipment, ... The list of advantages is virtually endless. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
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