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[email protected] July 30th 06 10:12 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
YES !

All links from:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

1) HD Radio to Crash and Burn (iBiquity financial mayhem)


http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...-and-burn.html

2) HD Radio's Dirty Little Secret


http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...le-secret.html

3) CPD's HD Radio Coverage Investigation


http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm


dxAce July 30th 06 10:23 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 


wrote:

YES !

All links from:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

1) HD Radio to Crash and Burn (iBiquity financial mayhem)

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...-and-burn.html

2) HD Radio's Dirty Little Secret

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...le-secret.html

3) CPD's HD Radio Coverage Investigation

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm


Edweenie wil be along shortly!



Steve July 30th 06 10:38 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

dxAce wrote:
wrote:

YES !

All links from:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

1) HD Radio to Crash and Burn (iBiquity financial mayhem)

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...-and-burn.html

2) HD Radio's Dirty Little Secret

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...le-secret.html

3) CPD's HD Radio Coverage Investigation

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm


Edweenie wil be along shortly!


Yeah, old Tardo had better dust off his resume and finally decide what
his job title was.


[email protected] July 30th 06 10:54 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
He could move to the Philipines and be a beach bum.
cuhulin


David Eduardo July 31st 06 12:49 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...



http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html


Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:


Over 1000 on air, 1000 licenced and building (there is a backlog from
Harris, BE and Nautel) and 1000 mor ecommitted. That takes care of over 70%
of the US population.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD


Inaccurate reporting.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm


iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just in
hardware already.



David Eduardo July 31st 06 12:54 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

dxAce wrote:
wrote:

YES !

All links from:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

1) HD Radio to Crash and Burn (iBiquity financial mayhem)

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...-and-burn.html

2) HD Radio's Dirty Little Secret

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...le-secret.html

3) CPD's HD Radio Coverage Investigation

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm


Edweenie wil be along shortly!


Yeah, old Tardo had better dust off his resume and finally decide what
his job title was.


I know what it is and was. I don't need a resume, as I have frequent job
offers I turn down. How about you?



[email protected] July 31st 06 01:36 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...



http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html


Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:


Over 1000 on air, 1000 licenced and building (there is a backlog from
Harris, BE and Nautel) and 1000 mor ecommitted. That takes care of over 70%
of the US population.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD


Inaccurate reporting.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm


iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just in
hardware already.


More ****ing spin, from the spin-doctor king !


[email protected] July 31st 06 01:53 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
What's a job resume? When I went to apply for a job at Delta Cotton Oil,
Mr.Prestage said,Hell,you dont need to do that,just be here at 7:30 in
the morning.
cuhulin


David Eduardo July 31st 06 01:53 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...



http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html


Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all
analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:


Over 1000 on air, 1000 licenced and building (there is a backlog from
Harris, BE and Nautel) and 1000 mor ecommitted. That takes care of over
70%
of the US population.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD


Inaccurate reporting.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm


iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just
in
hardware already.


More ****ing spin, from the spin-doctor king !


That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.



[email protected] July 31st 06 02:05 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...



http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html

Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all
analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:

Over 1000 on air, 1000 licenced and building (there is a backlog from
Harris, BE and Nautel) and 1000 mor ecommitted. That takes care of over
70%
of the US population.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD

Inaccurate reporting.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just
in
hardware already.


More ****ing spin, from the spin-doctor king !


That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.


More ****ing spin, from the spin-doctor king !


[email protected] July 31st 06 02:10 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...



http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html

Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all
analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:

Over 1000 on air, 1000 licenced and building (there is a backlog from
Harris, BE and Nautel) and 1000 mor ecommitted. That takes care of over
70%
of the US population.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD

Inaccurate reporting.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just
in
hardware already.


More ****ing spin, from the spin-doctor king !


That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.


Gotcha good this time, Eduardo ! BTW, looks like I have chased
autopaint-1 off the radio-intel.com site, he will be protected from all
the anti-IBOC truth, so he doesn't have to face it - the HD moderators
are all pro-IBOC - they make a final insult, then lock the thread.
See, you over there, mother****er !


Steve July 31st 06 02:34 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...



http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/cp...stigation.html

Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all
analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.

4) HD Radio: Where are the 1300 stations?:

Over 1000 on air, 1000 licenced and building (there is a backlog from
Harris, BE and Nautel) and 1000 mor ecommitted. That takes care of over
70%
of the US population.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/terrestrial/hd_radio/

5) Radio Industry Showing Signs Of Doubt About HD

Inaccurate reporting.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/022006-1.htm

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just
in
hardware already.


More ****ing spin, from the spin-doctor king !


That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.


Like the data on your resume?


David July 31st 06 03:21 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:49:04 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.


You know the F in F 50/50 stands for?

FICTIONAL!

64 dBu on a 20' pole in the middle of a parking lot. Give me a real
world break!


David July 31st 06 03:22 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:53:22 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.


Harry Helms is a prick. We can agree on that.


David Eduardo July 31st 06 04:19 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:49:04 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Mr Conrade, despite 50 years in radio, does not understand neraly all
analog
FM listening comes in the 64 dbu contour. At that point, the HD signal is
also rubust.


You know the F in F 50/50 stands for?

FICTIONAL!

64 dBu on a 20' pole in the middle of a parking lot. Give me a real
world break!


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured. The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.



David Eduardo July 31st 06 04:24 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.


Gotcha good this time, Eduardo ! BTW, looks like I have chased
autopaint-1 off the radio-intel.com site, he will be protected from all
the anti-IBOC truth, so he doesn't have to face it - the HD moderators
are all pro-IBOC - they make a final insult, then lock the thread.
See, you over there, mother****er !


Why? Have you found some more lies to post?

On the other hand, I am going to work on the HD2 formats for two more LA
radio stations this week.



David July 31st 06 04:33 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured. The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.


David Eduardo July 31st 06 04:36 AM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured. The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.


Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro (MSA).



[email protected] July 31st 06 12:54 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured. The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.


Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro (MSA).


You are busted iBiquity shill ! More **** out of your mouth ! ****
you, old man !


Gridleakkbe3 July 31st 06 01:30 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just

in
hardware already.


It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.



David Eduardo July 31st 06 01:31 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured.
The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.


Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro
(MSA).


You are busted iBiquity shill ! More **** out of your mouth ! ****
you, old man !


Profanity and cussing generally mean the swearer has lost the argument and
is having a snit.



Steve July 31st 06 01:59 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.


Gotcha good this time, Eduardo ! BTW, looks like I have chased
autopaint-1 off the radio-intel.com site, he will be protected from all
the anti-IBOC truth, so he doesn't have to face it - the HD moderators
are all pro-IBOC - they make a final insult, then lock the thread.
See, you over there, mother****er !


Why? Have you found some more lies to post?

On the other hand, I am going to work on the HD2 formats for two more LA
radio stations this week.


And are you doing this in your capacity as President of Programming or
some other title? Or have you even made a decision about this yet? LOL!!


Steve July 31st 06 02:00 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured. The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.


Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro (MSA).


And the readers of this group aren't interested in people who are
BUSTED.


Steve July 31st 06 02:02 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured.
The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.

Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro
(MSA).


You are busted iBiquity shill ! More **** out of your mouth ! ****
you, old man !


Profanity and cussing generally mean the swearer has lost the argument and
is having a snit.


Not when the other party is a mere troll.

If you hadn't gotten caught using aliases and fake resumes, you might
have pulled it off. But because you did get caught, you are now BUSTED.


David July 31st 06 02:06 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured. The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.


Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro (MSA).


And we aren't interested in you. That's why we have Sirius and XM and
your HD is going to fail.


David Eduardo July 31st 06 02:06 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just

in
hardware already.


It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.


First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second, new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.



David Eduardo July 31st 06 02:08 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

That whole site has something to do with Harry Helms, another DXer who
is
anti-radio. Much of the data is just flat wrong.

Gotcha good this time, Eduardo ! BTW, looks like I have chased
autopaint-1 off the radio-intel.com site, he will be protected from all
the anti-IBOC truth, so he doesn't have to face it - the HD moderators
are all pro-IBOC - they make a final insult, then lock the thread.
See, you over there, mother****er !


Why? Have you found some more lies to post?

On the other hand, I am going to work on the HD2 formats for two more LA
radio stations this week.


And are you doing this in your capacity as President of Programming or
some other title? Or have you even made a decision about this yet? LOL!!


You are easily amused if a miss-print by the NAB sends you into paroxysms of
laughter. (I never was President of Programming as such a position does not
exist in my company or any other).



David Eduardo July 31st 06 02:09 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is
measured.
The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.

Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro
(MSA).

You are busted iBiquity shill ! More **** out of your mouth ! ****
you, old man !


Profanity and cussing generally mean the swearer has lost the argument
and
is having a snit.


Not when the other party is a mere troll.

If you hadn't gotten caught using aliases and fake resumes,


Now you are busted. Resume is 100% factual, name is 100% mine. Next make
believe ad hominem, please?



David Eduardo July 31st 06 02:15 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured.
The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.


Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro
(MSA).


And we aren't interested in you. That's why we have Sirius and XM and
your HD is going to fail.


XM stock is off 60% in the last 18 months, as investment analysts project
slower growth. Satellite represents less than 0.5% of radio listening now,
and would have to get near 20 million subscribers just to represent a 1
share of national listening... that is at least 3 years away.



dxAce July 31st 06 03:15 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 


David Fracketon Gleason, prancing as 'Eduardo' since c.2000 wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured.
The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.

Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro
(MSA).


You are busted iBiquity shill ! More **** out of your mouth ! ****
you, old man !


Profanity and cussing generally mean the swearer has lost the argument and
is having a snit.


Would that be akin to you getting your panties in a knot, oh fake one?



Gridleakkbe3 July 31st 06 04:12 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
.com...

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million

just
in
hardware already.


It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.


First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second,

new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons

that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.


.....sure! (keep dreaming) The HD upgrade for my Subaru at the dealer
was $800. How many people do you know would put down that kind
of cabbage to get a radio upgrade - apart from dumbass ham radio
operators of course..?



David July 31st 06 04:51 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:15:17 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


XM stock is off 60% in the last 18 months, as investment analysts project
slower growth. Satellite represents less than 0.5% of radio listening now,
and would have to get near 20 million subscribers just to represent a 1
share of national listening... that is at least 3 years away.


Bull****. There will be 20 MM listeners in under a year. Each sub
represents more than 1 listener. Price per share is not the
Arbitrons.

Your dismissive attitude toward the exurban audience is symtomatic of
the dinosaur radio business in general. Y'all are a bunch of
assholes. It's conveyed in the programming.

For your information, my neighborhood is full of satellite radio
subscribers.


[email protected] July 31st 06 05:04 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured.
The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.

Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro
(MSA).


And we aren't interested in you. That's why we have Sirius and XM and
your HD is going to fail.


XM stock is off 60% in the last 18 months, as investment analysts project
slower growth. Satellite represents less than 0.5% of radio listening now,
and would have to get near 20 million subscribers just to represent a 1
share of national listening... that is at least 3 years away.


Boy David, caught you talking out of you ass - you were defending XM on
radio-info !


Michael A. Terrell July 31st 06 07:36 PM

iBiquity's Financial Mayhem !
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just

in
hardware already.


It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.


First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second, new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.



My dad and step mom just bought a new Honda Element with XM radio.
They weren't interested in IBOC, and the dealer couldn't talk them into
it. If a car salesman can't sell something. it says a lot.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

David Eduardo July 31st 06 08:06 PM

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"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
.com...

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million

just
in
hardware already.

It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.


First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second,

new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons

that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.


....sure! (keep dreaming) The HD upgrade for my Subaru at the dealer
was $800. How many people do you know would put down that kind
of cabbage to get a radio upgrade - apart from dumbass ham radio
operators of course..?


I am surprised they offered it. The real rollout of HD is just starting
today! Of course, the XM for my car was offered at more than that, plus $150
a year.



dxAce July 31st 06 09:02 PM

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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' nearly crapped his panties when he
wrote:

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
.com...

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million

just
in
hardware already.

It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.

First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second,

new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons

that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.


....sure! (keep dreaming) The HD upgrade for my Subaru at the dealer
was $800. How many people do you know would put down that kind
of cabbage to get a radio upgrade - apart from dumbass ham radio
operators of course..?


I am surprised they offered it. The real rollout of HD is just starting
today!


You sound so excited, oh shilling one!



[email protected] July 31st 06 10:49 PM

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I was at the Wal Mart store this afternoon.The cheap old AM/FM radio I
bought at a K Mart store about seventeen years ago,it quit working a few
years ago.I looked at the auto radios in the store,I saw a price tag
thingy on the shelf for a radio priced at about $27.00 but that radio
wasen't on the shelf or I would have bought it.Radio listening when I am
driving makes me nervous anyway,so I am not in any hurry.

I bought a dress thingy for $2.85 at the Goodwill store this afternoon
too.I dont know what it's called,it is sort of like a dress but the
lower part is made sort of like pants legs and it has a zipper from the
waist on up.Of course I tried it on in the store before I bought it to
make it fits me ok,it looks cute on me.
cuhulin


[email protected] July 31st 06 10:54 PM

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I get at least sixty nine XM music channels with my DirecTV.I never
asked for them,but they are there.
cuhulin


Telamon August 1st 06 12:49 AM

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening (quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however
it is measured. The fact is, outside that contour, there is
little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people
don't live in the city.

Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the
metro (MSA).


And we aren't interested in you. That's why we have Sirius and XM
and your HD is going to fail.


XM stock is off 60% in the last 18 months, as investment analysts
project slower growth. Satellite represents less than 0.5% of radio
listening now, and would have to get near 20 million subscribers just
to represent a 1 share of national listening... that is at least 3
years away.


XM and Sirius stock are both off for missing the goals on subscriber
growth projections that now have been revised. The revised brake even
point is 1 to 2 years away for both companies. Might happen or it might
not.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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