Castro Dying?
 

Batista flees.
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Castro Dying?
 

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

RJ wrote:
Castro's death would pose a real dillemma
for all the Cuban "refugees" in Florida.

All these years they've been moaning about
returning to Cuba.

Now, they might actually have to "put up or shut up"


rj

I doubt very seriously that cubans now residing in this country really
want to return to a third world country where much the population lives
hand-to-mouth in poor conditions.

A considerable number of those who came recently and who left over questions
of freedom, opinion, etc., would definitely return.

I believe much of the anti-Castro
rhetoric we hear now originated from the many non-resident people and
corporations (United Fruit) that owned property there as well as those
local property owners who fled the island when Castro took over.

The anti-Castro feelings come from the Cuban community. If you have actually
been among that group, you hear the stories of fathers being shot in front
of the wife and kids just for saying something against Castro, or of
confiscation of property or being jailed for having an opinion not 100% in
lockstep with castro or for selling eggs from the hens you are not supposed
to have.

Mama Yunay is not responsible for keeping anti-castro sentiment alive for 46
years... it is the Cubans who lived through his tyrany.

One
of his first acts was to nationalize property. So they more than any
other group have orchestrated this ongoing chorus of anti-Castro
rhetoric and the subsequent generations have continued the song. I
think that the chances of getting reparations or return of property
confiscated 1/2 century ago are nil.

If you had worded for most of your life to make a home for your family, and
you were suddenly turned out, and told you were an anti-social element,
would you want to support the government?

Combinado del Este was filled with tens of thousands of people who simply
thought differently.

Castro Dying?
 

David Frackelton Gleason, pontificating as 'Eduardo' fake Hispanic and probably
a Cuban wannabee wrote:

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

RJ wrote:
Castro's death would pose a real dillemma
for all the Cuban "refugees" in Florida.

All these years they've been moaning about
returning to Cuba.

Now, they might actually have to "put up or shut up"


rj

I doubt very seriously that cubans now residing in this country really
want to return to a third world country where much the population lives
hand-to-mouth in poor conditions.

A considerable number of those who came recently and who left over questions
of freedom, opinion, etc., would definitely return.

I believe much of the anti-Castro
rhetoric we hear now originated from the many non-resident people and
corporations (United Fruit) that owned property there as well as those
local property owners who fled the island when Castro took over.

The anti-Castro feelings come from the Cuban community. If you have actually
been among that group, you hear the stories of fathers being shot in front
of the wife and kids just for saying something against Castro, or of
confiscation of property or being jailed for having an opinion not 100% in
lockstep with castro or for selling eggs from the hens you are not supposed
to have.

Mama Yunay is not responsible for keeping anti-castro sentiment alive for 46
years... it is the Cubans who lived through his tyrany.

One
of his first acts was to nationalize property. So they more than any
other group have orchestrated this ongoing chorus of anti-Castro
rhetoric and the subsequent generations have continued the song. I
think that the chances of getting reparations or return of property
confiscated 1/2 century ago are nil.

If you had worded for most of your life to make a home for your family, and
you were suddenly turned out, and told you were an anti-social element,
would you want to support the government?

Combinado del Este was filled with tens of thousands of people who simply
thought differently.

You need to return to Cleveland, Edweenie, you frickin IBOC shill, if they'll
have you.

Castro Dying?
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

RJ wrote:
Castro's death would pose a real dillemma
for all the Cuban "refugees" in Florida.

All these years they've been moaning about
returning to Cuba.

Now, they might actually have to "put up or shut up"


rj

I doubt very seriously that cubans now residing in this country really
want to return to a third world country where much the population lives
hand-to-mouth in poor conditions.

A considerable number of those who came recently and who left over questions
of freedom, opinion, etc., would definitely return.

I believe much of the anti-Castro
rhetoric we hear now originated from the many non-resident people and
corporations (United Fruit) that owned property there as well as those
local property owners who fled the island when Castro took over.

The anti-Castro feelings come from the Cuban community. If you have actually
been among that group, you hear the stories of fathers being shot in front
of the wife and kids just for saying something against Castro, or of
confiscation of property or being jailed for having an opinion not 100% in
lockstep with castro or for selling eggs from the hens you are not supposed
to have.

Mama Yunay is not responsible for keeping anti-castro sentiment alive for 46
years... it is the Cubans who lived through his tyrany.

One
of his first acts was to nationalize property. So they more than any
other group have orchestrated this ongoing chorus of anti-Castro
rhetoric and the subsequent generations have continued the song. I
think that the chances of getting reparations or return of property
confiscated 1/2 century ago are nil.

If you had worded for most of your life to make a home for your family, and
you were suddenly turned out, and told you were an anti-social element,
would you want to support the government?

Combinado del Este was filled with tens of thousands of people who simply
thought differently.

You have negative credibility. When someone like you criticizes Castro,
it just makes him look good.

Castro Dying?
 

Steve wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

RJ wrote:
Castro's death would pose a real dillemma
for all the Cuban "refugees" in Florida.

All these years they've been moaning about
returning to Cuba.

Now, they might actually have to "put up or shut up"


rj

I doubt very seriously that cubans now residing in this country really
want to return to a third world country where much the population lives
hand-to-mouth in poor conditions.

A considerable number of those who came recently and who left over questions
of freedom, opinion, etc., would definitely return.

I believe much of the anti-Castro
rhetoric we hear now originated from the many non-resident people and
corporations (United Fruit) that owned property there as well as those
local property owners who fled the island when Castro took over.

The anti-Castro feelings come from the Cuban community. If you have actually
been among that group, you hear the stories of fathers being shot in front
of the wife and kids just for saying something against Castro, or of
confiscation of property or being jailed for having an opinion not 100% in
lockstep with castro or for selling eggs from the hens you are not supposed
to have.

Mama Yunay is not responsible for keeping anti-castro sentiment alive for 46
years... it is the Cubans who lived through his tyrany.

One
of his first acts was to nationalize property. So they more than any
other group have orchestrated this ongoing chorus of anti-Castro
rhetoric and the subsequent generations have continued the song. I
think that the chances of getting reparations or return of property
confiscated 1/2 century ago are nil.

If you had worded for most of your life to make a home for your family, and
you were suddenly turned out, and told you were an anti-social element,
would you want to support the government?

Combinado del Este was filled with tens of thousands of people who simply
thought differently.

You have negative credibility. When someone like you criticizes Castro,
it just makes him look good.

Heck, I'd trust Fidel long before I'd trust Edweenie, prancing shill for HD/IBOC.

Castro Dying?
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

RJ wrote:
Castro's death would pose a real dillemma
for all the Cuban "refugees" in Florida.

All these years they've been moaning about
returning to Cuba.

Now, they might actually have to "put up or shut up"


rj

I doubt very seriously that cubans now residing in this country really
want to return to a third world country where much the population lives
hand-to-mouth in poor conditions.

A considerable number of those who came recently and who left over questions
of freedom, opinion, etc., would definitely return.

I believe much of the anti-Castro
rhetoric we hear now originated from the many non-resident people and
corporations (United Fruit) that owned property there as well as those
local property owners who fled the island when Castro took over.

The anti-Castro feelings come from the Cuban community. If you have actually
been among that group, you hear the stories of fathers being shot in front
of the wife and kids just for saying something against Castro, or of
confiscation of property or being jailed for having an opinion not 100% in
lockstep with castro or for selling eggs from the hens you are not supposed
to have.

Mama Yunay is not responsible for keeping anti-castro sentiment alive for 46
years... it is the Cubans who lived through his tyrany.

One
of his first acts was to nationalize property. So they more than any
other group have orchestrated this ongoing chorus of anti-Castro
rhetoric and the subsequent generations have continued the song. I
think that the chances of getting reparations or return of property
confiscated 1/2 century ago are nil.

If you had worded for most of your life to make a home for your family, and
you were suddenly turned out, and told you were an anti-social element,
would you want to support the government?

Combinado del Este was filled with tens of thousands of people who simply
thought differently.


Castro had to have the support of a lot of people to take over. Do you
suppose there was an issue of the have-nots living much less well than
the haves? I certainly do. Don't forget that Castro received money
and weapons from Cubans in the U.S. who wanted to get rid of Batista
after his coup in 1950 or so. Unfortunately Castro turned out to be
just another in a long list of bad guys ruling that country. By
isolating Cuba diplomatically and economically we actually drove him
further into the arms of the USSR. Castro and his regime are not
suffering from our boycott activities, the average cubans are. There
is nothing to be gained by continuing this half-century boycott of Cuba
and a lot to be gained by opening relations.

Castro Dying?
 

David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic and more than
willing to run wrote:

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

RJ wrote:
Castro's death would pose a real dillemma
for all the Cuban "refugees" in Florida.

All these years they've been moaning about
returning to Cuba.

Now, they might actually have to "put up or shut up"


rj

I doubt very seriously that cubans now residing in this country really
want to return to a third world country where much the population lives
hand-to-mouth in poor conditions.

A considerable number of those who came recently and who left over questions
of freedom, opinion, etc., would definitely return.

I believe much of the anti-Castro
rhetoric we hear now originated from the many non-resident people and
corporations (United Fruit) that owned property there as well as those
local property owners who fled the island when Castro took over.

The anti-Castro feelings come from the Cuban community. If you have actually
been among that group, you hear the stories of fathers being shot in front
of the wife and kids just for saying something against Castro, or of
confiscation of property or being jailed for having an opinion not 100% in
lockstep with castro or for selling eggs from the hens you are not supposed
to have.

Mama Yunay is not responsible for keeping anti-castro sentiment alive for 46
years... it is the Cubans who lived through his tyrany.

One
of his first acts was to nationalize property. So they more than any
other group have orchestrated this ongoing chorus of anti-Castro
rhetoric and the subsequent generations have continued the song. I
think that the chances of getting reparations or return of property
confiscated 1/2 century ago are nil.

If you had worded for most of your life to make a home for your family, and
you were suddenly turned out, and told you were an anti-social element,
would you want to support the government?

Combinado del Este was filled with tens of thousands of people who simply
thought differently.

Here is the following from an exchange in alt.politics.immigration:

"krp":
Do you also recall claiming to be an ECUADORIAN REFUGEE who knows as well as
Cubans do having to flee THEIR country?

"David Eduardo":
You get everything mixed up. I said I was a refugee myself, as I had to
flee Ecuador to avoid being killed. In fact, I was a matter of days away from
becoming a citizen at that time.

"dxAce":
Nowadays one must renounce their current citizenship and give up their
current passport to become a citizen of Ecuador.

"David Eduardo":
Not then.

"dxAce":
Did you at any time renounce your citizenship and if so, when did you
un-renounce it?

"David Eduardo":
Are you an employee of the Department of State?

"dxAce":
Nope. And you didn't answer the question.

"David Eduardo":
You figure it out.

"dxAce":
I'll take that as a yes, you did renounce your citizenship. Any true American
would never hesitate in answering that question.

"David Eduardo":
It is simply none of your business.

"dxAce":
Ahhhh... another 'YES'. You really are a worthless piece of ****, aren't you,
Frackelton?
-------------------------------

More insight into the workings of David Frackelton Gleason, posing as
'Eduardo'... shill for Univision, and apparently a very disloyal American as
well?

Castro Dying?
 

From_The_Edge at webtv at The Rumor Mill News Reading Room says China
has advised all Chinese to leave Israel.
cuhulin
.................................................. ......
Manhatma/Watermaid,,,,,,,,, America's favorite,,,,,,,, long grain rice
.................................................. ......

Castro Dead!
 

"John S." wrote

Perhaps you should study Communist China to see the failure in your
brilliance.

Actually China is a very good example of how opening the doors to
government relations, commerce and tourism can benefit a country.
Since Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon initiated that policy China has
moved forward very well for the most part.

Like most people I really don't care whether the Chinese Communist
Party is in control or not...that is up to the Chinese to run their
country.

If you want to live with your head in the sand and continue your
McCarthy-like rantings about the Perils Of Communism, then please go
ahead. Just don't get run over as the world passes you by.


Strong & Soros in business a Partnership from Hell

From an air conditioned boardroom somewhere in Communist China, Maurice
Strong--the man who would deny air conditioning for you to save the
environment--has hatched another anti-American scheme.

Having cashed in his Kyoto credits and having launched his ManyOne Internet
project from afar, Strong is back on the international scene, ready or not,
With his latest comeback, the elusive Strong is stepping back into the
limelight after his alleged links to the UN Oil-for-Food scandal took him
off the radar screen for more than a year. This comeback sees Strong teaming
up in the biz world with George Soros. The deadly duo aims to flood the
American market with cheap Chinese made cars.

Strong's public predictions that China would replace the United States, as
world superpower is not happening fast enough. So Strong and President
George W. Bush malcontent George Soros are contemplating pouring hundreds of
millions into a Communist China automaker that manufactures the "Chery".

Strong and Soros hope to decimate Ford, Chrysler and GM by flooding the U.S.
market with cheapo Cherys on a 2007 timeline.
....
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/cover061506.htm

George Soros is about to invest $200 million into Chery
http://globalautosystems.com/index.p...d=521&Itemid=2



No better place to hide from American justice than China

The tantalizing tale of missing Kofi Annan pointman Maurice Strong is no
longer one of those puzzling unsolved mysteries.

Canadian `Chairman Mo', a big gun in the international arena, dropped right
off the radar screen in April of 2005 when his alleged ties to the UN
Oil-for-Food scandal cropped up and wouldn't go away.

According to the investigative Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Mo's location has
been pinpointed, and it never required a Miss Marple to track him down.

AWOL Maurice Strong is alive and kicking in Beijing.

Canada Free Press, whose two favourite people to track are Mo and his
sidekick, the self-reinvented-as-American-patriot Mikhail Gorbachev, always
knew that Mo would return to China, his favourite place on Mother Earth.

What we didn't know, but read with relish in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review,
is that the smooth-talking architect of the Kyoto Protocol, has no choice
but to remain in the Orient,

"Maurice must now remain in China (where he is very welcome) to avoid
questioning by the FBI and Canadian investigators about the $1 million that
Tongsun gave him and which Mo tried to hide in his son Fred's nuclear power
company, which now is bankrupt." (Pittsburg Tribune-Review, July 30, 2006.)

Pointing out that Strong is "very welcome" in China is a polite way of
saying that he's right at home where overpaid environmental spin doctors
have long claimed that Maurice Strong was the only man alive who could see
that the United States of America is replaced by Communist China as world
superpower.

That's where Mo's sidekick Mikhail Gorbachev--who was never really ever
out--comes in.

Gorbachev is living La Dolce Vita in San Francisco at the Presidio, where in
1993, he had a three-star general present him the keys to his new digs.

International diplomats, no matter how anti-American, always arrive in the
West with a soft landing.

The Tribune-Review comes right out and throws sunlight on the business
partnership Strong has with George Soros.

Like the bad guys in a spy movie, Strong and Soros teamed up on the Chery, a
sort of poor man's made-in-China vehicle, with which they hope to flood the
U.S. market next year.

CFP thinks that it's only natural that Strong would be dodging the
authorities in China.

The Peoples' Republic of China is increasingly viewed as a country governed
by a brutal regime, where just posting an anti-government essay on the
Internet can get your imprisoned, or being Christian can get you killed.

Aside from addressing the occasional symposium on global warming, Chairman
Mo remains on the lam in China.

Are Strong and other UN world players protected for life by something called
UN international immunity?

Bringing Maurice Strong to justice would be as difficult as having him prove
his credentials. Long ago his diplomatic status was bought for him, courtesy
of an influential Canadian Liberal politician by the name of Paul Martin
Sr., the late father of the recently defeated Canadian Prime Minister Paul
Martin Jr.

The relationship between Strong and the Martins may be based on more than
international politics, another Mo intrigue with a trail long ago gone cold.

Maurice Strong, who keeps popping up in all the right places, has always
been perceived as a cross between the Wizard of Oz and Dr. No.

It would be poetic justice of a sort if the gruesome trio of Maurice Strong
Mikhail Gorbachev and George Soros would finish their days on earth in
Beijing.

This is surely the place where the anti-American, commie loving aging
activists belong.

Now if only they would call home the murderer by default of Blue Helmets,
Kofi Annan.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/cover080206.htm


Who is Maurice Strong? Chairman of Visionary Vehicles' Technology and
Environmental Advisory Board. He is a former senior adviser to U.N.
Secretary General Kofi Annan and adviser to the president of the World Bank.
Maurice created the Earth Charter with sidekick Mikhail Gorbachev. At last
count, The Earth Charter, which Strong and Gorbachev claim is a replacement
for the Ten Commandments, was being carted from school to school in its
goatskin covered gilded case by UN Staff.

Maurice Strong would like us all to believe he is an environmentalist
through and through. So, of course, he would never consider investing in a
company that (gasp!) "plans to export into the U.S. and elsewhere
gas-guzzling SUVs" and was sued by General Motors for piracy - unless of
course the firm is owned by his Chinese Communist hosts.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=50619

The Bio of Kofi Annan
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/in....asp?indid=796
The Bio of George Soros
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/in....asp?indid=977
Soros Shadow Party - "Phoenix" Group
[Phoenix in China also means Dragon]
http://moonbatcentral.com/wordpress/?p=274
What is a Chery?
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-6-15/42784.html
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins.../A01-47455.htm
http://www.time.com/time/archive/pre...147185,00.html

The Chery can be bought in China for $3,600, and an American car dealer near
you for $20,000. What-a-deal!

Chinese assembly line workers earn approximately $2 an hour. In South Korea,
the same worker earns $22 and the comparable U.S. wage is approximately $60
an hour. As China becomes wealthier, naturally the value of the labor wages
should also increase. However, the Communist regime intentionally prevents
the Chinese currency from appreciating; this unnaturally prevents the
standard of living of the working class to improve and has resulted in large
trade surpluses.

This economic tactic benefits the Communist regime at the expense of the
working class worldwide.

Castro Dying?
 

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:

Combinado del Este was filled with tens of thousands of people who simply
thought differently.


Castro had to have the support of a lot of people to take over. Do you
suppose there was an issue of the have-nots living much less well than
the haves? I certainly do.

The distribution of wealth is complicated nearly everywhere. That alone is
neither a justification nor an excuse.

One case I am most familiar with is that of a university professor who spoke
out after Castro declared the Revolution to be socialist. He discussed the
duplicity with his students and faculty. Soldiers arrived at his home, and
they shot him while the children and his wife watched. I work with one of
the daughters, who is in a position of responsability in Miami.

Castro could have let the dissidents emigrate... or forced them to. No, he
killed many to silence them and put many more in the prisions.

Don't forget that Castro received money
and weapons from Cubans in the U.S. who wanted to get rid of Batista
after his coup in 1950 or so.

Tiny faction, though. I don't think it is material in this overall context.
There is more significance than substance, with the significance residing in
the fact that Castro so skillfully duped people into thinking he was not a
leftist but a populist.

Unfortunately Castro turned out to be
just another in a long list of bad guys ruling that country. By
isolating Cuba diplomatically and economically we actually drove him
further into the arms of the USSR.

The USSR alliance appears to have been set up before Castro announced his
socialist agenda before Bay of Pigs; it was likely his plan all along.
Isolation came much later after the missle crisis and the abortive invasion.

Castro and his regime are not
suffering from our boycott activities, the average cubans are. There
is nothing to be gained by continuing this half-century boycott of Cuba
and a lot to be gained by opening relations.


There is considerable investment by European firms and Mexican ones in Cuba.
The boycott is more a bone thrown to the influential Cuban community in
Miami.