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dxAce August 18th 06 07:50 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA



prozacian August 18th 06 08:07 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


That certainly looks a bit of a beast . very nice
P



David Eduardo August 18th 06 08:12 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)


When does this start shipping, and do you know the cost?



Jim Hackett August 18th 06 08:23 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
I suppose the model # is also the price...



"prozacian" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


That certainly looks a bit of a beast . very nice
P





D Peter Maus August 18th 06 08:24 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
Jim Hackett wrote:
I suppose the model # is also the price...



That would be the ICOM way.





"prozacian" wrote in message
...
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


That certainly looks a bit of a beast . very nice
P





D Peter Maus August 18th 06 08:30 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
Michael Lawson wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
Jim Hackett wrote:
I suppose the model # is also the price...


That would be the ICOM way.


Hah. That would have made the R75 only a mere
$75. ;-)

--Mike L.


An oversight, I'm sure.






Michael Lawson August 18th 06 08:45 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)


Holy cow. What do you think, $5000? $10000?

--Mike L.



Michael Lawson August 18th 06 08:46 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
Jim Hackett wrote:
I suppose the model # is also the price...



That would be the ICOM way.


Hah. That would have made the R75 only a mere
$75. ;-)

--Mike L.



John Plimmer August 18th 06 09:09 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
Whew! pretty awesome!
Guess what farmer Christmas will put in some lucky fella's stockings

But why, oh why, do Icom have to attenuate the MW band reception? - never
figured them out - they do that to all their radio's.
--
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
Drake SW8 & ERGO software
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A.
GE circa 50's radiogram
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA





dxAce August 18th 06 09:46 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 


D Peter Maus wrote:

Michael Lawson wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
Jim Hackett wrote:
I suppose the model # is also the price...


That would be the ICOM way.


Hah. That would have made the R75 only a mere
$75. ;-)

--Mike L.


An oversight, I'm sure.


Email from Universal after I inquired as to the price:

"Thanks for the email. We are aware of this new receiver but at this time
Icom has not released any information . We will post it on our website
as soon as we receive it. Sure looks like a nice one."

dxAce
Michigan
USA



D Peter Maus August 18th 06 10:13 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
David Eduardo wrote:
"John Plimmer" wrote in message
...
Whew! pretty awesome!
Guess what farmer Christmas will put in some lucky fella's stockings

But why, oh why, do Icom have to attenuate the MW band reception? - never
figured them out - they do that to all their radio's.




They do this to prevent front end overload for users in high MW
signal areas. There are some areas of the Windy, for instance, that are
a veritible RF 'Little Big Horn' of huge signals (50 kw).
It's not a problem for many users, but when it's a problem, it's
usually a big problem.

Padding the MW band is a lot easier and a lot less expensive than
increasing the headroom to accomodate signals 100 times or more hotter
than the average DX signal.




Do you suppose there will be a mod possible to defeat this unfortunate
design "benefit?"
--



There usually is. Most of the time as simple as jumping a pad.




Jim Hackett August 18th 06 11:47 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
Except in the case of the R-75. A bit more complicated...




"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"John Plimmer" wrote in message
...
Whew! pretty awesome!
Guess what farmer Christmas will put in some lucky fella's stockings

But why, oh why, do Icom have to attenuate the MW band reception? -

never
figured them out - they do that to all their radio's.




They do this to prevent front end overload for users in high MW
signal areas. There are some areas of the Windy, for instance, that are
a veritible RF 'Little Big Horn' of huge signals (50 kw).
It's not a problem for many users, but when it's a problem, it's
usually a big problem.

Padding the MW band is a lot easier and a lot less expensive than
increasing the headroom to accomodate signals 100 times or more hotter
than the average DX signal.




Do you suppose there will be a mod possible to defeat this unfortunate
design "benefit?"
--



There usually is. Most of the time as simple as jumping a pad.






Brian Denley August 19th 06 03:30 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
Geez I might get divorced over this one!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
And I'm certain you'll pay a respectable price as well. My guesstimate of
the
price is $4500 (or more!).

dxAce
Michigan
USA





RHF August 19th 06 03:41 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

Brian Denley wrote:
Geez I might get divorced over this one!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
And I'm certain you'll pay a respectable price as well. My guesstimate of
the
price is $4500 (or more!).

dxAce
Michigan
USA



BD,

Oh Yeah, My Ex-Wife !

Now what was her name . . .

just for the fun of it :o) ~ RHF

Steve August 19th 06 03:52 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

Brian Denley wrote:
Geez I might get divorced over this one!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



Just be sure you get the divorce before you buy the receiver...assuming
you want to keep it.


Michael Lawson August 19th 06 04:15 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

Brian Denley wrote:
Geez I might get divorced over this one!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



Just be sure you get the divorce before you buy the

receiver...assuming
you want to keep it.


Heh, I wonder if anyone has done a study of the
stuff that eBay sells to find out how much of it
comes from divorce proceedings...

--Mike L.



m II August 19th 06 04:39 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
John Plimmer wrote:

Whew! pretty awesome!
Guess what farmer Christmas will put in some lucky fella's stockings



I would imagine it's far too cold for normal farming at the North Pole.
They most likely use the heat provided by the seemingly limitless coal
seam which has provided my stocking stuffings for the last decade.







mike

Bob Miller August 19th 06 07:42 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:57:23 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



bpnjensen wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Email from Universal after I inquired as to the price:

"Thanks for the email. We are aware of this new receiver but at this time
Icom has not released any information . We will post it on our website
as soon as we receive it. Sure looks like a nice one."

dxAce
Michigan
USA


It'll be a nice one if the daggone sideband-selectable S-AM works as
advertised.


And I'm certain you'll pay a respectable price as well. My guesstimate of the
price is $4500 (or more!).

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Waaal, with the 7800 transceiver at $10,000 plus, $4500 sounds
downright reasonable, and maybe a little low.

Does this puppy have selectable roofing filters?

bob
k5qwg

Telamon August 19th 06 07:58 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)


I'm not a fan of wide bandwidth receivers as the design usually favors
the higher end communication bands and scanning functions.

Looks like they paid more attention to the front end then normal with
RF relay switching and (relatively) large toroid coils instead of
smaller chip inductors that can more easily saturate. Although the
toroids are self shielding they look a little to close together on that
BPF board for my tastes and causes me to wonder if enough attention was
paid to isolating the sections. I'd need a closer view of the board and
layout to know what was up with it.

The relays are a better RF solution than switching diodes but the unit
will be making clicking sounds when you scan across bands and wear the
relays out so I expect that the operating manual will advise against
doing that.

At 70 watts whether it is on or off means it will run hot. The case
looks like it is meant to travel and sit on a desk but you may want it
to be in a rack with cooling. To get a feel about this imagine placing
a 70 watt bulb inside the case. The receivers I have take 30 to 40
watts and are ballpark around the same size so for the ICOM to stay as
cool it will all depend on that fan in the back, which will collect
dust over time.

With the USB and ethernat ports on the back means it could be controled
with National Instruments software instead of generating computer
control software from scratch. ICOM may even have a driver written for
it.

Nice looking unit and display. Looks like it belongs on a lab bench.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] August 19th 06 09:10 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
Remember the Red River Valley and the Cowboy who loved you so true.The
Grapes of Wrath movie has just now wound up,untill next time.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 19th 06 09:22 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)


I'm not a fan of wide bandwidth receivers as the design usually favors
the higher end communication bands and scanning functions.

Looks like they paid more attention to the front end then normal with
RF relay switching and (relatively) large toroid coils instead of
smaller chip inductors that can more easily saturate. Although the
toroids are self shielding they look a little to close together on that
BPF board for my tastes and causes me to wonder if enough attention was
paid to isolating the sections. I'd need a closer view of the board and
layout to know what was up with it.


The spacing looks tight, but this is the kind of thing that is easily
tested on a network analyzer in the design phase, so I suspect it is
not significant, and of course, any problems would have shown up in the
end to end testing of the radio.


The relays are a better RF solution than switching diodes but the unit
will be making clicking sounds when you scan across bands and wear the
relays out so I expect that the operating manual will advise against
doing that.

At 70 watts whether it is on or off means it will run hot. The case
looks like it is meant to travel and sit on a desk but you may want it
to be in a rack with cooling. To get a feel about this imagine placing
a 70 watt bulb inside the case. The receivers I have take 30 to 40
watts and are ballpark around the same size so for the ICOM to stay as
cool it will all depend on that fan in the back, which will collect
dust over time.


Even the R-8500, with the external power supply, needs ventilation. At
it is in the 30 watt category.


With the USB and ethernat ports on the back means it could be controled
with National Instruments software instead of generating computer
control software from scratch. ICOM may even have a driver written for
it.

Nice looking unit and display. Looks like it belongs on a lab bench.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California



mike0219116 August 19th 06 09:54 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

dxAce wrote:
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I don't see a S-AM button on it anywhere. I bet it won't come with a
sync circuit.

I wonder if that front-firing speaker will be worth a damn?


dxAce August 19th 06 10:00 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 


mike0219116 wrote:

dxAce wrote:
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I don't see a S-AM button on it anywhere. I bet it won't come with a
sync circuit.


Had you actually taken the time to read the specs you'd know that it does
apparently come with a sync circuit.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Telamon August 19th 06 11:52 PM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

mike0219116 wrote:

dxAce wrote:
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I don't see a S-AM button on it anywhere. I bet it won't come with a
sync circuit.


Had you actually taken the time to read the specs you'd know that it does
apparently come with a sync circuit.


AM sync is not the specifications on the web page, which is a copy of
the last page (4) of the brochure but there is a paragraph about it on
the brochure page 3 upper right. Since it is implemented in DSP I would
expect that it is sideband selectable but that is an assumption on my
part. The specification page missing S-AM must be an oversight.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce August 20th 06 12:05 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

mike0219116 wrote:

dxAce wrote:
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I don't see a S-AM button on it anywhere. I bet it won't come with a
sync circuit.


Had you actually taken the time to read the specs you'd know that it does
apparently come with a sync circuit.


AM sync is not the specifications on the web page, which is a copy of
the last page (4) of the brochure but there is a paragraph about it on
the brochure page 3 upper right. Since it is implemented in DSP I would
expect that it is sideband selectable but that is an assumption on my
part. The specification page missing S-AM must be an oversight.


The paragraph says it's sideband selectable, does it not?

"In addition, upper or lower side for S-AM demodulation is selectable for
eliminating interference from adjacent strong signals."

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Telamon August 20th 06 12:19 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

mike0219116 wrote:

dxAce wrote:
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I don't see a S-AM button on it anywhere. I bet it won't come with a
sync circuit.

Had you actually taken the time to read the specs you'd know that it does
apparently come with a sync circuit.


AM sync is not the specifications on the web page, which is a copy of
the last page (4) of the brochure but there is a paragraph about it on
the brochure page 3 upper right. Since it is implemented in DSP I would
expect that it is sideband selectable but that is an assumption on my
part. The specification page missing S-AM must be an oversight.


The paragraph says it's sideband selectable, does it not?

"In addition, upper or lower side for S-AM demodulation is selectable for
eliminating interference from adjacent strong signals."


Yes, the last sentence does. I should have re-read it before posting.
Anyway since the sync is in DSP it would be expected to have this
functionality.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Somebody Somewhere August 20th 06 01:40 AM

New ICOM? IC-R9500
 

dxAce wrote:
http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/icom_r9500.pdf

and at:

http://ndl-dx.se/icom_r9500/
(via Bernt-Ivan Holmberg, Möklinta, Sweden, dx_india)

dxAce
Michigan
USA



What a piece of junk !



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