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mike maghakian November 17th 06 06:34 AM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 
The famous Dave Z who is one of the writers of receiver reviews for Passport
and his own website has some pretty bad things to say about the 340.
I had my 340 expert comment on this and here is what he said:
***************************

He criticizes the "sloppy" use of loose wires vs. ribbon wiring being used
on an RX-325 which was a cheap, fair performer in his review of the RX-340
and finds similarities. At first it seems like a valid thing to note. But
if you read his entire web presentation you'll discover the reason for this.
Ten Tec claims that ribbon wiring can interact from within and cause
unwanted spurs/hash on a given circuit board signal path. Dedicated wires,
however sloppy in appearance, causes less degrading of the signbal from
spurs/hash, according to Ten Tec.

He states that the synch is worthless. See my previous email for my
experience with the synch. I don't know WHY he says this!! Even that
R-75-loving Phil says the synch is fair, not worthless. My guess is that
when Dave has used a 340, he never bothered to read the manual thoroughly to
learn how to use it properly!!!!!!



[email protected] November 17th 06 02:57 PM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 

mike maghakian wrote:
The famous Dave Z who is one of the writers of receiver reviews for Passport
and his own website has some pretty bad things to say about the 340.
I had my 340 expert comment on this and here is what he said:
***************************

He criticizes the "sloppy" use of loose wires vs. ribbon wiring being used
on an RX-325 which was a cheap, fair performer in his review of the RX-340
and finds similarities. At first it seems like a valid thing to note. But
if you read his entire web presentation you'll discover the reason for this.
Ten Tec claims that ribbon wiring can interact from within and cause
unwanted spurs/hash on a given circuit board signal path. Dedicated wires,
however sloppy in appearance, causes less degrading of the signbal from
spurs/hash, according to Ten Tec.

He states that the synch is worthless. See my previous email for my
experience with the synch. I don't know WHY he says this!! Even that
R-75-loving Phil says the synch is fair, not worthless. My guess is that
when Dave has used a 340, he never bothered to read the manual thoroughly to
learn how to use it properly!!!!!!


Sorry, to tell you, but Dave Z is correct !


Telamon November 18th 06 02:31 AM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 
In article ,
"mike maghakian" wrote:

The famous Dave Z who is one of the writers of receiver reviews for Passport
and his own website has some pretty bad things to say about the 340.
I had my 340 expert comment on this and here is what he said:
***************************

He criticizes the "sloppy" use of loose wires vs. ribbon wiring being used
on an RX-325 which was a cheap, fair performer in his review of the RX-340
and finds similarities. At first it seems like a valid thing to note. But
if you read his entire web presentation you'll discover the reason for this.
Ten Tec claims that ribbon wiring can interact from within and cause
unwanted spurs/hash on a given circuit board signal path. Dedicated wires,
however sloppy in appearance, causes less degrading of the signbal from
spurs/hash, according to Ten Tec.

He states that the synch is worthless. See my previous email for my
experience with the synch. I don't know WHY he says this!! Even that
R-75-loving Phil says the synch is fair, not worthless. My guess is that
when Dave has used a 340, he never bothered to read the manual thoroughly to
learn how to use it properly!!!!!!


I use the sync all the time. Works great. Whoever Dave Zantow is he
needs a reality check.

I have been inside the radio a few times once to replace the S meter
bulb and once to fix the cracked solder connections on the power supply
PCB at the output connector. I think someone got carried away pushing on
the connector during installation and cracked the solder. There is
wiring lose inside the radio that in a military specified radio would be
tied up better to meet things like vibration but this radio is not meant
for those conditions. The wiring is no better or worse than most
commercial radios. I don't see anything wrong with the radios
construction and in fact I think it's pretty good.

I consider myself "an expert" because I have owned this radio for years,
been in the hobby for years and have years of experience in electronics.
I don't need someone to tell me about the radios performance and have
found that people misunderstand specifications, or do not know how to
operate equipment, or misconstrue observations, or just make mistakes.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] November 18th 06 03:47 AM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 
Nothing wrong with lose/dedicated wires as long as they are installed
and soldered properly.
cuhulin


mike maghakian November 18th 06 06:40 AM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 
OK mr. know it all, tell us about YOUR experience with the 340....or at
least clue us in on who you know who has lots of experience with the 340, or
is this top secret gov't info that you can't divulge without killing
everyone that reads this.


From:
Subject: REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
Date: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:57 AM


Sorry, to tell you, but Dave Z is correct !




Telamon November 18th 06 07:16 PM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 
In article ,
"mike maghakian" wrote:

OK mr. know it all, tell us about YOUR experience with the 340....or at
least clue us in on who you know who has lots of experience with the 340, or
is this top secret gov't info that you can't divulge without killing
everyone that reads this.


From:
Subject: REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
Date: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:57 AM


Sorry, to tell you, but Dave Z is correct !


You are better off putting Mr. Know-it-all in the kill file since you
will not get any useful information out of him.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

m II November 19th 06 01:45 AM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 
mike maghakian wrote:

is this top secret gov't info that you can't divulge without killing
everyone that reads this.


I've been informed that it IS actually top secret and that dxAss has had
it read to him five or six times. Patriots, do your duty!



mike

Somebody Somewhere November 20th 06 12:07 AM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"mike maghakian" wrote:

The famous Dave Z who is one of the writers of receiver reviews for Passport
and his own website has some pretty bad things to say about the 340.
I had my 340 expert comment on this and here is what he said:
***************************

He criticizes the "sloppy" use of loose wires vs. ribbon wiring being used
on an RX-325 which was a cheap, fair performer in his review of the RX-340
and finds similarities. At first it seems like a valid thing to note. But
if you read his entire web presentation you'll discover the reason for this.
Ten Tec claims that ribbon wiring can interact from within and cause
unwanted spurs/hash on a given circuit board signal path. Dedicated wires,
however sloppy in appearance, causes less degrading of the signbal from
spurs/hash, according to Ten Tec.

He states that the synch is worthless. See my previous email for my
experience with the synch. I don't know WHY he says this!! Even that
R-75-loving Phil says the synch is fair, not worthless. My guess is that
when Dave has used a 340, he never bothered to read the manual thoroughly to
learn how to use it properly!!!!!!


I use the sync all the time. Works great. Whoever Dave Zantow is he
needs a reality check.

I have been inside the radio a few times once to replace the S meter
bulb and once to fix the cracked solder connections on the power supply
PCB at the output connector. I think someone got carried away pushing on
the connector during installation and cracked the solder. There is
wiring lose inside the radio that in a military specified radio would be
tied up better to meet things like vibration but this radio is not meant
for those conditions. The wiring is no better or worse than most
commercial radios. I don't see anything wrong with the radios
construction and in fact I think it's pretty good.

I consider myself "an expert" because I have owned this radio for years,
been in the hobby for years and have years of experience in electronics.
I don't need someone to tell me about the radios performance and have
found that people misunderstand specifications, or do not know how to
operate equipment, or misconstrue observations, or just make mistakes.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California



First of all, let me say that it's pointless to fight a "my favorite
radio is better than your favorite radio" war. If you like your radio
but the other guy hates it, well who cares? The important thing is that
YOU enjoy your particular radio and it's obviously doing the job for
you. But I'd like to add my 2 cents about the Ten-Tec RX340 anyway.

I have a Ten-Tec RX340. I can honestly say it's the best "table top
communications receiver" I ever had. Period. I can say this after
having owned the following table top radios (in no particular order):

Drake R8B
Drake R7A
JRC NRD-545
JRC NRD-535D
JRC NRD-525
JRC NRD-515
AOR AR-3030
ICOM R71A
ICOM R70
YAESU FRG-7700
YAESU FRG-8800
HAMMARLUND HQ-180AC
HAMMARLUND HQ-100
HALLICRAFTERS S-20R
HALLICRAFTERS S-120
HALLICRAFTERS S-118

BTW, I still have the Drake R7A and JRC NRD-515. They are real gems.

I'm not going to list all the reasons why the 340 is the best rx I ever
owned, there's just too many of them. If you had an RX340 and ditched
it, if you prefer a Drake R8 or ICOM R75 or AOR 7030 instead, that's
cool. Enjoy your radio and have fun. After all, isn't that the whole
point of our hobby?


Telamon November 20th 06 02:26 AM

REBUTTAL TO COMMENTS ON RX-340 BY DAVE ZANTOW
 
In article . com,
"Somebody Somewhere" wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"mike maghakian" wrote:


The famous Dave Z who is one of the writers of receiver reviews
for Passport and his own website has some pretty bad things to
say about the 340. I had my 340 expert comment on this and here
is what he said: ***************************

He criticizes the "sloppy" use of loose wires vs. ribbon wiring
being used on an RX-325 which was a cheap, fair performer in his
review of the RX-340 and finds similarities. At first it seems
like a valid thing to note. But if you read his entire web
presentation you'll discover the reason for this. Ten Tec claims
that ribbon wiring can interact from within and cause unwanted
spurs/hash on a given circuit board signal path. Dedicated
wires, however sloppy in appearance, causes less degrading of the
signbal from spurs/hash, according to Ten Tec.

He states that the synch is worthless. See my previous email for
my experience with the synch. I don't know WHY he says this!!
Even that R-75-loving Phil says the synch is fair, not worthless.
My guess is that when Dave has used a 340, he never bothered to
read the manual thoroughly to learn how to use it properly!!!!!!


I use the sync all the time. Works great. Whoever Dave Zantow is he
needs a reality check.

I have been inside the radio a few times once to replace the S
meter bulb and once to fix the cracked solder connections on the
power supply PCB at the output connector. I think someone got
carried away pushing on the connector during installation and
cracked the solder. There is wiring lose inside the radio that in a
military specified radio would be tied up better to meet things
like vibration but this radio is not meant for those conditions.
The wiring is no better or worse than most commercial radios. I
don't see anything wrong with the radios construction and in fact I
think it's pretty good.

I consider myself "an expert" because I have owned this radio for
years, been in the hobby for years and have years of experience in
electronics. I don't need someone to tell me about the radios
performance and have found that people misunderstand
specifications, or do not know how to operate equipment, or
misconstrue observations, or just make mistakes.


First of all, let me say that it's pointless to fight a "my favorite
radio is better than your favorite radio" war.


Snip

I don't fight the "my favorite radio is better than your favorite radio
war" because it is pointless.

I do correct misstated material facts about radios posted about on the
news group. I don't feel the need to correct peoples opinions because
that is their thinking but I do follow up on posts that for instance
misconstrue specifications or are outright misconceptions about
performance of a radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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