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Drake R8B on eBay
I am intrigued by this offering:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. Makes one wonder..?? -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8 & ERGO software Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A. GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whip http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx |
Drake R8B on eBay
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"John Plimmer" wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...PageNam e=ADM E:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. Makes one wonder..?? Makes me wonder what you are wondering. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Drake R8B on eBay
John Plimmer wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. The lack of bids could be explained by the price, which would make more sense if it was reduced by at least $1,000. |
Drake R8B on eBay
wrote in message ups.com... John Plimmer wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. The lack of bids could be explained by the price, which would make more sense if it was reduced by at least $1,000. Well the item up for Auction ended early. Someone took the Buy Now option. |
Drake R8B on eBay
P50 wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John Plimmer wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. The lack of bids could be explained by the price, which would make more sense if it was reduced by at least $1,000. Well the item up for Auction ended early. Someone took the Buy Now option. Wow...positively astounding price for a Drake shortwave radio. How could a used shortwave radio possibly be worth $1.6k!! |
Drake R8B on eBay
On Nov 28, 7:04 pm, wrote: P50 wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John Plimmer wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...51377984&ssPag... He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. The lack of bids could be explained by the price, which would make more sense if it was reduced by at least $1,000. Well the item up for Auction ended early. Someone took the Buy Now option.Wow...positively astounding price for a Drake shortwave radio. - How could a used shortwave radio possibly be worth $1.6k!! HJS, Since the RL Drake R8B was discontinued the eBay Price has taken an up-turn. With the six (6) most recent being : $1699 $1499 $1325 $1599 $1451 $1599 Note - Had a 'new' Price of $1349 when it was still being built. RL Drake R8B = http://www.dxing.com/rx/r8b.htm http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0082.html hope this helps ~ RHF |
Drake R8B on eBay
dxAce wrote: wrote: P50 wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John Plimmer wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. The lack of bids could be explained by the price, which would make more sense if it was reduced by at least $1,000. Well the item up for Auction ended early. Someone took the Buy Now option. Wow...positively astounding price for a Drake shortwave radio. How could a used shortwave radio possibly be worth $1.6k!! Easy! It's a Drake. I know Drake as a small manufacturer who was one of the last companies to react to collapsing demand for expensive consumer grade HF receivers. They made a few nice radios over the years, but so did a lot of other companies. |
Drake R8B on eBay
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Drake R8B on eBay
Geary Morton wrote: In article .com, wrote: Some people are paying more for the Drake R8B used than it sold for when new??? Do it's signal catching abilities improve with age and use? It has apparently attained collectible status alongside other notables like the Panasonic RF9000, Sony CRF330 and Zenith TO with performance apparently a secondary issue. Uh, I don't think performance is a secondary issue, rather it's the primary issue. The 'performance' of an R8B is competitive if not superior in some ways to anything currently being offered by anyone. At those prices performance would have to be a secondary issue because comparable reception performance could be gotten from several other discontinued high-end receivers. And that is the price for a used receiver not a new one. I don't know of any radio for the same (albeit inflated) price that offers more, and there is certainly NO comparison between it and any of the other radios you list, IMHO. The radios including the Drake were listed mostly because collector interest has pushed the price beyond anything that makes sense. Those radios perform no better now than when new and indeed they are all gradually aging. Geary |
Drake R8B on eBay
I think the high prices for the R8B are a
bit excessive -- it's a great receiver, but these days, with SW on the way out, there is not much a R8B can do that a R8 or R8A cannot. wrote: Geary Morton wrote: In article .com, wrote: Some people are paying more for the Drake R8B used than it sold for when new??? Do it's signal catching abilities improve with age and use? It has apparently attained collectible status alongside other notables like the Panasonic RF9000, Sony CRF330 and Zenith TO with performance apparently a secondary issue. Uh, I don't think performance is a secondary issue, rather it's the primary issue. The 'performance' of an R8B is competitive if not superior in some ways to anything currently being offered by anyone. At those prices performance would have to be a secondary issue because comparable reception performance could be gotten from several other discontinued high-end receivers. And that is the price for a used receiver not a new one. I don't know of any radio for the same (albeit inflated) price that offers more, and there is certainly NO comparison between it and any of the other radios you list, IMHO. The radios including the Drake were listed mostly because collector interest has pushed the price beyond anything that makes sense. Those radios perform no better now than when new and indeed they are all gradually aging. Geary |
Drake R8B on eBay
Dan Robinson wrote: I think the high prices for the R8B are a bit excessive -- it's a great receiver, but these days, with SW on the way out, there is not much a R8B can do that a R8 or R8A cannot. wrote: Geary Morton wrote: In article .com, wrote: Some people are paying more for the Drake R8B used than it sold for when new??? Do it's signal catching abilities improve with age and use? It has apparently attained collectible status alongside other notables like the Panasonic RF9000, Sony CRF330 and Zenith TO with performance apparently a secondary issue. Uh, I don't think performance is a secondary issue, rather it's the primary issue. The 'performance' of an R8B is competitive if not superior in some ways to anything currently being offered by anyone. At those prices performance would have to be a secondary issue because comparable reception performance could be gotten from several other discontinued high-end receivers. And that is the price for a used receiver not a new one. I don't know of any radio for the same (albeit inflated) price that offers more, and there is certainly NO comparison between it and any of the other radios you list, IMHO. The radios including the Drake were listed mostly because collector interest has pushed the price beyond anything that makes sense. Those radios perform no better now than when new and indeed they are all gradually aging. Geary The synch on the B rev sucks less than earlier models. |
Drake R8B on eBay
Dear John,
With the dearth of great affordable table-top short wave radios currently being manufactured, the price for the older, discontinued, ones in good condition can only go up. These will be purchased either as "collector" items or for actual use, as one in good condition will greatly outperform any portable ever or currently being manufactured. I have told my wife that when I "ascend" (hopefully) to the great "Radio Shack in the Sky," to be careful - I believe that, once the AOR AR7030 Plus is discontinued, its price will positively skyrocket and she should not settle for anything less than a "good price." (A "good price," of course, being what someone is willing to pay at the time one wants to sell!) My unit, of course, is in perfect condition; my wife made a cover for it and I keep it covered (and unplugged) when it is not in use and I have retained the original box, the original packing, and all paperwork associated with it. But I wish I had the money to buy another fully-tricked-out AR7030 Plus and just keep it in its box. What a price THAT would bring some year in the future! Best, Joe John Plimmer wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. Makes one wonder..?? -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8 & ERGO software Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A. GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whip http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx |
Drake R8B on eBay
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Drake R8B on eBay
Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear John, With the dearth of great affordable table-top short wave radios currently being manufactured, the price for the older, discontinued, ones in good condition can only go up. These will be purchased either as "collector" items or for actual use, as one in good condition will greatly outperform any portable ever or currently being manufactured. I have told my wife that when I "ascend" (hopefully) to the great "Radio Shack in the Sky," to be careful - I believe that, once the AOR AR7030 Plus is discontinued, its price will positively skyrocket and she should not settle for anything less than a "good price." (A "good price," of course, being what someone is willing to pay at the time one wants to sell!) My unit, of course, is in perfect condition; my wife made a cover for it and I keep it covered (and unplugged) when it is not in use and I have retained the original box, the original packing, and all paperwork associated with it. But I wish I had the money to buy another fully-tricked-out AR7030 Plus and just keep it in its box. What a price THAT would bring some year in the future! Best, Joe John Plimmer wrote: I am intrigued by this offering: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNARL:US:12 He offers a buy it now price of US $1,699.00, but has a starting bid of US $1,650.00, to which so far, after four days, he has had no bids at all. Makes one wonder..?? -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8 & ERGO software Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A. GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whip http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx There is only one problem with the AR7030+, and that is the weak dollar. I'm glad I bought mine years ago. However, mine has seen many a trip to the boonies. I have an ammo case with cut to fit padding to transport it. Incidentally, you need to put electrical tape over the rear IR sensor when you use it outdoors. |
Drake R8B on eBay
Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear John, With the dearth of great affordable table-top short wave radios currently being manufactured, the price for the older, discontinued, ones in good condition can only go up. These will be purchased either as "collector" items or for actual use, as one in good condition will greatly outperform any portable ever or currently being manufactured. I have told my wife that when I "ascend" (hopefully) to the great "Radio Shack in the Sky," to be careful - I believe that, once the AOR AR7030 Plus is discontinued, its price will positively skyrocket and she should not settle for anything less than a "good price." (A "good price," of course, being what someone is willing to pay at the time one wants to sell!) My unit, of course, is in perfect condition; my wife made a cover for it and I keep it covered (and unplugged) when it is not in use and I have retained the original box, the original packing, and all paperwork associated with it. But I wish I had the money to buy another fully-tricked-out AR7030 Plus and just keep it in its box. What a price THAT would bring some year in the future! Best, Joe It sounds like you can't afford NOT to buy another fully-tricked-out AR7030 Plus! |
Drake R8B on eBay
wrote: Geary Morton wrote: In article .com, wrote: Some people are paying more for the Drake R8B used than it sold for when new??? Do it's signal catching abilities improve with age and use? It has apparently attained collectible status alongside other notables like the Panasonic RF9000, Sony CRF330 and Zenith TO with performance apparently a secondary issue. Uh, I don't think performance is a secondary issue, rather it's the primary issue. The 'performance' of an R8B is competitive if not superior in some ways to anything currently being offered by anyone. At those prices performance would have to be a secondary issue because comparable reception performance could be gotten from several other discontinued high-end receivers. And that is the price for a used receiver not a new one. I don't know of any radio for the same (albeit inflated) price that offers more, and there is certainly NO comparison between it and any of the other radios you list, IMHO. The radios including the Drake were listed mostly because collector interest has pushed the price beyond anything that makes sense. Those radios perform no better now than when new and indeed they are all gradually aging. Geary Dan Robinson wrote: I think the high prices for the R8B are a bit excessive -- it's a great receiver, but these days, with SW on the way out, there is not much a R8B can do that a R8 or R8A cannot. Or high-end receivers from several other companies that bailed out of the HF radio market before Drake did. |
Drake R8B on eBay
Dear Steve,
Are you kidding? If I did that, you'd find TWO AR7030 Pluses for sale by my wife (at lot sooner than I anticipated) and one less member on this group. (R.I.P. Joe and Radio!) Best, Joe Steve wrote: It sounds like you can't afford NOT to buy another fully-tricked-out AR7030 Plus! |
Drake R8B on eBay
wrote: wrote: Geary Morton wrote: In article .com, wrote: Some people are paying more for the Drake R8B used than it sold for when new??? Do it's signal catching abilities improve with age and use? It has apparently attained collectible status alongside other notables like the Panasonic RF9000, Sony CRF330 and Zenith TO with performance apparently a secondary issue. Uh, I don't think performance is a secondary issue, rather it's the primary issue. The 'performance' of an R8B is competitive if not superior in some ways to anything currently being offered by anyone. At those prices performance would have to be a secondary issue because comparable reception performance could be gotten from several other discontinued high-end receivers. And that is the price for a used receiver not a new one. I don't know of any radio for the same (albeit inflated) price that offers more, and there is certainly NO comparison between it and any of the other radios you list, IMHO. The radios including the Drake were listed mostly because collector interest has pushed the price beyond anything that makes sense. Those radios perform no better now than when new and indeed they are all gradually aging. Geary Dan Robinson wrote: I think the high prices for the R8B are a bit excessive -- it's a great receiver, but these days, with SW on the way out, there is not much a R8B can do that a R8 or R8A cannot. Or high-end receivers from several other companies that bailed out of the HF radio market before Drake did. Gawd... you're more of a damn whiner than Maghakian is. dxAce Michigan USA |
Drake R8B on eBay
HJS - The Collector has one thought : GOT TO HAVE IT !
IMHO - What you see on eBay with the Drake R8B are "Market Forces" setting the Price for a Limited Quantity of an Highly Valued Item 'For Sale" at Auction. Plus - Perceived High Quality of the Item. Plus - Excellent Performance of the Item. Plus - Very Few Items / Discontinued / Not Being Made Anymore. Plus - Small Number of 'Very Interested' Buyers. eBay Auction = World Wide "Open {Competitive} Market". basic economics 101- yes it is that simple ~ RHF |
Drake R8B on eBay
That says it all: "The Collector has one thought : GOT TO HAVE IT !"
Collectors and users have different price ceilings. Although the high bidder will say otherwise, performance isn't the real reason someone would pay a premium for such a radio because more reasonably alternatives are available that will catch the same stations. Bragging rights that come from chasing and paying a premium for something "rare" figures big in the equation. RHF wrote: HJS - The Collector has one thought : GOT TO HAVE IT ! IMHO - What you see on eBay with the Drake R8B are "Market Forces" setting the Price for a Limited Quantity of an Highly Valued Item 'For Sale" at Auction. Plus - Perceived High Quality of the Item. Plus - Excellent Performance of the Item. Plus - Very Few Items / Discontinued / Not Being Made Anymore. Plus - Small Number of 'Very Interested' Buyers. eBay Auction = World Wide "Open {Competitive} Market". basic economics 101- yes it is that simple ~ RHF . . . . On Nov 29, 7:17 am, wrote: Geary Morton wrote: In article .com, wrote: Some people are paying more for the Drake R8B used than it sold for when new??? Do it's signal catching abilities improve with age and use? It has apparently attained collectible status alongside other notables like the Panasonic RF9000, Sony CRF330 and Zenith TO with performance apparently a secondary issue. Uh, I don't think performance is a secondary issue, rather it's the primary issue. The 'performance' of an R8B is competitive if not superior in some ways to anything currently being offered by anyone.At those prices performance would have to be a secondary issue because comparable reception performance could be gotten from several other discontinued high-end receivers. And that is the price for a used receiver not a new one. I don't know of any radio for the same (albeit inflated) price that offers more, and there is certainly NO comparison between it and any of the other radios you list, IMHO.The radios including the Drake were listed mostly because collector interest has pushed the price beyond anything that makes sense. Those radios perform no better now than when new and indeed they are all gradually aging. Geary- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
Drake R8B on eBay
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wrote in message ups.com... That says it all: "The Collector has one thought : GOT TO HAVE IT !" Collectors and users have different price ceilings. Although the high bidder will say otherwise, performance isn't the real reason someone would pay a premium for such a radio because more reasonably alternatives are available that will catch the same stations. Bragging rights that come from chasing and paying a premium for something "rare" figures big in the equation. There is no receiver priced below the cost of an R8B that "gets the same stations." In severe DX situations, the R4B will beat anything in or below its price range. |
Drake R8B on eBay
David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message ups.com... That says it all: "The Collector has one thought : GOT TO HAVE IT !" Collectors and users have different price ceilings. Although the high bidder will say otherwise, performance isn't the real reason someone would pay a premium for such a radio because more reasonably alternatives are available that will catch the same stations. Bragging rights that come from chasing and paying a premium for something "rare" figures big in the equation. There is no receiver priced below the cost of an R8B that "gets the same stations." In severe DX situations, the R4B will beat anything in or below its price range. At the $1600 price for a used R8B, there are better choices. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/3396.html for instance, though the cost of extra filters might make it go above $1600. |
Drake R8B on eBay
wrote in message oups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message ups.com... That says it all: "The Collector has one thought : GOT TO HAVE IT !" Collectors and users have different price ceilings. Although the high bidder will say otherwise, performance isn't the real reason someone would pay a premium for such a radio because more reasonably alternatives are available that will catch the same stations. Bragging rights that come from chasing and paying a premium for something "rare" figures big in the equation. There is no receiver priced below the cost of an R8B that "gets the same stations." In severe DX situations, the R4B will beat anything in or below its price range. At the $1600 price for a used R8B, there are better choices. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/3396.html for instance, though the cost of extra filters might make it go above $1600. Many do not like the quirky interface of the AOR. On Medium Wave DXpeditions, the Drake has tended to be the better DX receiver. It comes close, and may be a tie, but the R8B seems to be the vastly preferred receiver for serious DX work. |
Drake R8B on eBay
David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message oups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message ups.com... That says it all: "The Collector has one thought : GOT TO HAVE IT !" Collectors and users have different price ceilings. Although the high bidder will say otherwise, performance isn't the real reason someone would pay a premium for such a radio because more reasonably alternatives are available that will catch the same stations. Bragging rights that come from chasing and paying a premium for something "rare" figures big in the equation. There is no receiver priced below the cost of an R8B that "gets the same stations." In severe DX situations, the R4B will beat anything in or below its price range. At the $1600 price for a used R8B, there are better choices. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/3396.html for instance, though the cost of extra filters might make it go above $1600. Many do not like the quirky interface of the AOR. On Medium Wave DXpeditions, the Drake has tended to be the better DX receiver. It comes close, and may be a tie, but the R8B seems to be the vastly preferred receiver for serious DX work. I've used the R8B. It's an adequate radio.The AR7030+ certainly is easier to transport since it is much smaller. I've used it in the boonies on 12V batteries, though technically you don't get the full performance. IIRC, the the soap on the rope puts out more like 14V. I have a special power cord for the Wellbrook. [Damn positive ground system.] Mine has the NB built in as well. Comes in quite handy. |
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