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Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?
Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Hello TMT, IMHO you would have a hard time finding a better portable than the 2010. The new Eton E1 is getting a lot of good reviews, with a synch detector that's rated highly, and more features than the 2010. I don't have one however, mostly because of the price (plus it's ugly!) For $500 I'd rather go for a tabletop. Also, Red Sun has an interesting portable out, and will be coming out with one in the future with synch detection (can't remember the model numbers, but do a search of this group for "red sun".) As far as the Error 3, that is caused by a problem with the AA batteries that power the memory and CPU. If the batteries themselves are okay, then you may have to *gently* bend the clips that hold the batteries. From what I've read, this is a somewhat common problem with the 2010. If you search the Yahoo 2010 group, you will find more detailed descriptions and fixes for this. Good luck, and let us know if you get another portable. DWP |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Tecsun/Eton/Grundig are now Chinese-made junk - the Eton E1 has had a host of quality-control problems, including the batteries blowing up, when used with the AC adaptor. The Sony ICF-2010 is/was the best portable ever made - Sony is by far the best manufacturer. I have a hand-held Sony ICF-S10MK2 AM/FM $10 radio, that out-performs my digital PLL radios. |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton ! |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
"CelticDude" wrote in message ups.com... Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Hello TMT, IMHO you would have a hard time finding a better portable than the 2010. The new Eton E1 is getting a lot of good reviews, with a synch detector that's rated highly, and more features than the 2010. I don't have one however, mostly because of the price (plus it's ugly!) For $500 I'd rather go for a tabletop. Also, Red Sun has an interesting portable out, and will be coming out with one in the future with synch detection (can't remember the model numbers, but do a search of this group for "red sun".) As far as the Error 3, that is caused by a problem with the AA batteries that power the memory and CPU. If the batteries themselves are okay, then you may have to *gently* bend the clips that hold the batteries. From what I've read, this is a somewhat common problem with the 2010. If you search the Yahoo 2010 group, you will find more detailed descriptions and fixes for this. Good luck, and let us know if you get another portable. DWP I only paid $399 for my E1 and it works great. It performs better than any portable I've ever owned and better than a lot of tabletops I've used. No problems in quality either. I sold my R-5000 and kept this because it performs similarly and has a great interface. I think it was worth it. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Remove your HAT to reply directly |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
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Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Brian Hill wrote: "CelticDude" wrote in message ups.com... Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Hello TMT, IMHO you would have a hard time finding a better portable than the 2010. The new Eton E1 is getting a lot of good reviews, with a synch detector that's rated highly, and more features than the 2010. I don't have one however, mostly because of the price (plus it's ugly!) For $500 I'd rather go for a tabletop. Also, Red Sun has an interesting portable out, and will be coming out with one in the future with synch detection (can't remember the model numbers, but do a search of this group for "red sun".) As far as the Error 3, that is caused by a problem with the AA batteries that power the memory and CPU. If the batteries themselves are okay, then you may have to *gently* bend the clips that hold the batteries. From what I've read, this is a somewhat common problem with the 2010. If you search the Yahoo 2010 group, you will find more detailed descriptions and fixes for this. Good luck, and let us know if you get another portable. DWP I only paid $399 for my E1 and it works great. It performs better than any portable I've ever owned and better than a lot of tabletops I've used. No problems in quality either. I sold my R-5000 and kept this because it performs similarly and has a great interface. I think it was worth it. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Remove your HAT to reply directly Hmmm, this starts to make the E1 tempting. Where did you find this price? Was it refurbished? I told myself that I wouldn't get another portable, but this, or the Red Sun RP300, could tempt me (the E1 is still ugly...) DWP |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
"CelticDude" wrote in message Hmmm, this starts to make the E1 tempting. Where did you find this price? Was it refurbished? I told myself that I wouldn't get another portable, but this, or the Red Sun RP300, could tempt me (the E1 is still ugly...) DWP I bought mine from Northland here in MN. I think that'sd the name of the Co.? It was new and checked out by Drake. Still had the protective coating on the dial and original box etc... I don't know if that price is still in effect but I'd still pay $500 for it. It's a great radio and a good a DX rig. I think those that knock it are ill informed. I've been DXing since 76 and have owned hundreds of radios and think it's a damn good radio deserving of more credit than it's given by most that have never even tried the rig. Five bills is not chump change but I always try rigs that are in my grasp economicly because I'm currious and this one I felt was a winner. YMMV? -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Remove your HAT to reply directly |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Brian Hill,you can have the Sunn for free.I would like to at least get
back my UPS shipping cost to you,to the tune of about $79.00.I will snail mail you a copy of my UPS receipt,this week or next week,or whenever I make up my mind about it. cuhulin ......Larry |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Sony 7600 GR portable.I own one.I bought it from www.jr.com less
than a year ago.Truthfully though,I much more prefer to listen to my old Setchell Carlson Radio. cuhulin |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Little doggy,I am scrubbin her face,, she lookin just like a little
Possum up at me.An old Star Trek flick is on Radio tv now.Mary DuRose (she is married,she is from Kansas) in Sydney,Australia,she once told me about Australian Cattle Dogs. cuhulin |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
That big tall building in Minneapolis with the big round hole in the
middle of it.Is it still there? cuhulin |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
I got to play with an E1 a couple of months ago. While it doesn't have a
loopstick antenna for MW, it did work quite well on that band. When did they stop making this radio in India? Pete wrote in message ps.com... Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton ! |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Pete KE9OA wrote: I got to play with an E1 a couple of months ago. While it doesn't have a loopstick antenna for MW, it did work quite well on that band. When did they stop making this radio in India? Pete wrote in message ps.com... Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton ! I have no idea, why a loop stick antenna was not supplied - all I can say, is that with my miserable experience with the Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig cheap crap S350, I will never go near Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig, or Sangean again - I have had excellent experiences with Sonys. |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Brian Hill wrote:
"CelticDude" wrote in message Hmmm, this starts to make the E1 tempting. Where did you find this price? Was it refurbished? I told myself that I wouldn't get another portable, but this, or the Red Sun RP300, could tempt me (the E1 is still ugly...) DWP I bought mine from Northland here in MN. I think that'sd the name of the Co.? It was new and checked out by Drake. Still had the protective coating on the dial and original box etc... I don't know if that price is still in effect but I'd still pay $500 for it. It's a great radio and a good a DX rig. I think those that knock it are ill informed. I've been DXing since 76 and have owned hundreds of radios and think it's a damn good radio deserving of more credit than it's given by most that have never even tried the rig. Five bills is not chump change but I always try rigs that are in my grasp economicly because I'm currious and this one I felt was a winner. YMMV? Well, I have to tell you, I have been tempted by it too, especially since the R8B has been discontinued, and this one looks to have many of the essential features that made the Drake so tempting. It is good to hear more positive news about it. I'd rather have the tabletop - they just *feel* better to me - but since performance is the ultimate goal, perhaps a move sideways to a top-quality portable isn't such a bad move. Bruce Jensen |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Of course, the Eton E1, not even a contest. 1070's Volswagen technology vs. Eprom technology. YMMV, taxes can be variable..........:-) |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
"bpnjensen" wrote in message ups.com... Brian Hill wrote: "CelticDude" wrote in message Hmmm, this starts to make the E1 tempting. Where did you find this price? Was it refurbished? I told myself that I wouldn't get another portable, but this, or the Red Sun RP300, could tempt me (the E1 is still ugly...) DWP I bought mine from Northland here in MN. I think that'sd the name of the Co.? It was new and checked out by Drake. Still had the protective coating on the dial and original box etc... I don't know if that price is still in effect but I'd still pay $500 for it. It's a great radio and a good a DX rig. I think those that knock it are ill informed. I've been DXing since 76 and have owned hundreds of radios and think it's a damn good radio deserving of more credit than it's given by most that have never even tried the rig. Five bills is not chump change but I always try rigs that are in my grasp economicly because I'm currious and this one I felt was a winner. YMMV? Well, I have to tell you, I have been tempted by it too, especially since the R8B has been discontinued, and this one looks to have many of the essential features that made the Drake so tempting. It is good to hear more positive news about it. I'd rather have the tabletop - they just *feel* better to me - but since performance is the ultimate goal, perhaps a move sideways to a top-quality portable isn't such a bad move. Bruce Jensen I like DXing out doors alot too and it's easy to cary with you. BH |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Sure, an Eton E1 would be a better portable than a 2010. |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
"H. State" wrote in message oups.com... Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Of course, the Eton E1, not even a contest. 1070's Volswagen technology vs. Eprom technology. YMMV, taxes can be variable..........:-) The thing is that the 2010 is about the same amount of $s if you can find one. Not too many go for less than $350-400. BH |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Brian Hill wrote:
I like DXing out doors alot too and it's easy to cary with you. BH Brian, does this E1 unit have: RF Gain? Noise Blanker? Switchable RF filters (2.5, 4, 7 kHz, as I understand it) for all reception modes (AM, AM-Synch, SSB)? I couldn't quite tell form Universal's website... Thanks, BJ |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
CelticDude wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT As far as the Error 3, that is caused by a problem with the AA batteries that power the memory and CPU. If the batteries themselves are okay, then you may have to *gently* bend the clips that hold the batteries. From what I've read, this is a somewhat common problem with the 2010. If you search the Yahoo 2010 group, you will find more detailed descriptions and fixes for this. The problem is Sony didn't hardwire one of the AA battery terminals to the PC board. Instead they used a pointed contact on the terminal which touches a solder pad on the microprocessor board. Over time this contact can become unreliable, causing the AA battery circuit to open intermittently. The microprocessor senses this problem and produces the error message. The solution is to bypass the pointed contact on the AA battery terminal with a short wire soldered to the microprocessor board. This is what the other AA terminal uses. However it's not easy to access the location where the bypass wire needs to be installed. I recall having to completely remove the main PC board and partially remove the microprocessor board under the main board, to get to the AA battery terminal area. It was worth the effort though. The error message problem is gone now on my 2010. |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
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Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... In posted on Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:16:39 -0600, Brian Hill wrote: Begin The thing is that the 2010 is about the same amount of $s if you can find one. Not too many go for less than $350-400. For the same reasons that Edsels and Stratocasters fetch big bucks, or a piece of cardboard from the 50s with Mickey Mantle's pic on it. -- Bart point? |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
wrote in message ups.com... wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Sure, an Eton E1 would be a better portable than a 2010. The Eton E1 is an over-priced cheap piece of crap. Are you the new idiot of RRS? Or just a sockpuppet of one of our old ****heads? BH |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message Noise Blanker? No, and that's its major shortcoming in my opinion And why is that? -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Remove your HAT to reply directly |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Brian Hill wrote: wrote in message ups.com... wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Sure, an Eton E1 would be a better portable than a 2010. The Eton E1 is an over-priced cheap piece of crap. Are you the new idiot of RRS? Or just a sockpuppet of one of our old ****heads? BH Now, I remember you - I've had run-ins with you, over your piece-of-**** Eaton **** E1 ! Have your batteries blow up, or any knobs/switches fallen off, yet ? So, how much did you end up really spending on your Eaton **** E1 (remember me ?), with the AM loop and Satellite Radio antennas - $700 ? Cocksucker ! |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Brian Hill wrote: "Bart Bailey" wrote in message Noise Blanker? No, and that's its major shortcoming in my opinion And why is that? -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Remove your HAT to reply directly NOW, I REMEMBER - you are that ugly MOTHER****ER ! |
Sony ICF-2010 -Replacement- Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with 'opinion' XM Satellite Radio
TMT,
If you could buy a Sony ICF-2010 Radio in an Un-Opened Box aka : 'new' - "NIB" {New-In-the-Box} Today - Great ! Go For It ! - - - These so called "NIB" Sony ICF-2010 Radio usually sell for over US$500 normally about US$750 on eBay. - - - However, even though it is 'new' it most likely it does not have the original Sony Manufacture's Warranty Card. - - - The Reality is that you are most likely faced with buying a 'used' Sony ICF-2010 Radio for about $240 to $360; that has had one or two previous owners -and- just may be not quite 100% {Showing It's Age} - The proverbial PIAP. So what is out-there that is as good as a Sony ICF-2010 -and- can be bought "New" with a Full Manufacture's Warranty ? ? ? IMHO - In today's the 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio Market -Only- One 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio comes to mind : The Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with 'opinion' XM Satellite Radio. For Information about the Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with 'opinion' XM Satellite Radio check-out the : Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio Group on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ e1-ing you all ~ RHF |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... In posted on Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:54:13 -0600, Brian Hill wrote: Begin "Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... In posted on Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:16:39 -0600, Brian Hill wrote: Begin The thing is that the 2010 is about the same amount of $s if you can find one. Not too many go for less than $350-400. For the same reasons that Edsels and Stratocasters fetch big bucks, or a piece of cardboard from the 50s with Mickey Mantle's pic on it. -- Bart point? Surprised you'd have to ask, but there are collectors who assess value to an item by criteria other than it's functionality. -- Bart Just kidding Bart. I'm very guilty of collecting myself and do understand but my main point is the 2010 and the E1 are both good radios. It's just getting harder to find a 2010 at a reasonable price and it can be a mixed bag unless you trust who your buying from. BH |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
Now, I remember you - I've had run-ins with you, over your piece-of-**** Eaton **** E1 ! Have your batteries blow up, or any knobs/switches fallen off, yet ? So, how much did you end up really spending on your Eaton **** E1 (remember me ?), with the AM loop and Satellite Radio antennas - $700 ? Cocksucker ! Good bye stupid. Plonk! |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:51:22 -0800, nsarejectnsareject wrote:
Pete KE9OA wrote: I got to play with an E1 a couple of months ago. While it doesn't have a loopstick antenna for MW, it did work quite well on that band. When did they stop making this radio in India? Pete wrote in message ps.com... Too_Many_Tools wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton ! I have no idea, why a loop stick antenna was not supplied - all I can say, is that with my miserable experience with the Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig cheap crap S350, I will never go near Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig, or Sangean again - I have had excellent experiences with Sonys. If the only experience you have with Eton is the S350, you are clueless. Why don't you post back here when you have something meaningful to offer. gfy -- "Don't get too wrapped up in dogma. Who knows? When we get to heaven there might be a Big Buddha laughing at us while we're all running around going 'Oh ****!'" - a Catholic bishop |
Is There A Better Portable Than the Sony ICF-2010?
I have no idea, why a loop stick antenna was not supplied - all I can
say, is that with my miserable experience with the Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig cheap crap S350, I will never go near Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig, or Sangean again - I have had excellent experiences with Sonys. Yeah, they're great-but the ****ing collectors have ruined it for the rest of us-how can you afford one now? Rich |
Sony ICF-2010 -Replacement- Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with 'opinion' XM Satellite Radio
OK so here is a Sony ICF-2010 Shortwave Receiver
+ KIWA Upgrades ! "RARE" ? currently listed on eBay. Have 'fun' watching it get Bid-Up to more then the original MSRP of $360 when it was being made. Sony ICF-2010 Shortwave Receiver + KIWA Upgrades eBay Auction Item # 140065488511 http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140065488511 Remember this is 'not' a New-In-the-Box (NIB) Radio and the eBay Description does admit to some "Issues". just for the fun of it ~ RHF |
Sony ICF-2010 -Replacement- Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with 'opinion' XM Satellite Radio
I don't call it e-screw for nothing...
Rich "RHF" wrote in message ups.com... OK so here is a Sony ICF-2010 Shortwave Receiver + KIWA Upgrades ! "RARE" ? currently listed on eBay. Have 'fun' watching it get Bid-Up to more then the original MSRP of $360 when it was being made. Sony ICF-2010 Shortwave Receiver + KIWA Upgrades eBay Auction Item # 140065488511 http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140065488511 Remember this is 'not' a New-In-the-Box (NIB) Radio and the eBay Description does admit to some "Issues". just for the fun of it ~ RHF . . . . On Dec 14, 5:19 pm, "RHF" wrote: TMT, If you could buy a Sony ICF-2010 Radio in an Un-Opened Box aka : 'new' - "NIB" {New-In-the-Box} Today - Great ! Go For It ! - - - These so called "NIB" Sony ICF-2010 Radio usually sell for over US$500 normally about US$750 on eBay. - - - However, even though it is 'new' it most likely it does not have the original Sony Manufacture's Warranty Card. - - - The Reality is that you are most likely faced with buying a 'used' Sony ICF-2010 Radio for about $240 to $360; that has had one or two previous owners -and- just may be not quite 100% {Showing It's Age} - The proverbial PIAP. So what is out-there that is as good as a Sony ICF-2010 -and- can be bought "New" with a Full Manufacture's Warranty ? ? ? IMHO - In today's the 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio Market -Only- One 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio comes to mind : The Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with 'opinion' XM Satellite Radio. For Information about the Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with 'opinion' XM Satellite Radio check-out the : Eton "E1" 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio Group on YAHOO !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ e1-ing you all ~ RHF . Eton E1 Radio Owners and Future E1 Owners Check-Out the Eton E1 Radio Group on YAHOO !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Here is your News and Information Center for the Eton E1 AM / FM / Shortwave "World Band" Receiver with optional "XM" Satellite Radio. . . . . . . . . . . O u t ! On Dec 13, 9:28 am, "Too_Many_Tools" wrote: I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions? Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what is it from? Thanks for any advice. TMT- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
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Cuhulin - And for now the Eton E1 AM / FM / Shortwave
"World Band" Receiver with optional "XM" Satellite Radio is "THAT 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio - IMHO e1-ing you all ~ RHF |
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