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drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of
purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
john wrote:
just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john Passport tested the R-75 with the Kiwa Mods; review said the " Hi Fi" Kiwa mod is the one to get.. Review gives it 4 1/2 stars ( Cost $599 + $35 for Audio upgrade) Japan radio NDR-545SE also gets 4 1/2 stars ( Cost $ 1,899.00 ) ( interesting review below) http://www.dobe.com/wts/funk/AOR7030vR8A.html Much depends on how deep your pocket is; - and what kind of antenna you can set up.. |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
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"john" wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. The Drake R8 series are good all round radios. They have all the essential features for quality broadcast listening, Dxing, utilities, SSB ham reception. The R75 makes an excellent door stop to the radio room. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
Telamon wrote: In article . com, "john" wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. The Drake R8 series are good all round radios. They have all the essential features for quality broadcast listening, Dxing, utilities, SSB ham reception. The R75 makes an excellent door stop to the radio room. dxace and telmon, exactly my feeling - the drakes come with everything you need - i have a palstar and many people say the palstar's deep audio and low noise floor is similiar to the drakes - if thats the case i'm going with an r8a - also do not like the idea of sending out my radio for mods right after i purchase it new - seems it should have all the goodies already. have you guy personally used the r75? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
I have owned all the Drake R8 series and like to do a bit of NDB beacon
DXing as well. The R8 series narrow filter of 500 Hz is not quite narrow enough where the beacons are crowded together, so the Icom R75 is likely to be a better bet, albeit after a lot of expensive mods and additional pricey filters. First off you have to get rid of the R75's attenuation below the HF band - for this you will have to get Kiwa to do the mods. Then you will have to add the narrower roofing filter and add the 250 Hz CW filter. After spending all that extra you should have quite a mean NDB beacon DX machine. A mean DX machine for CW beacons and value for money at $1500 is the Icom 746Pro as it is digital with a 32 bit processor and infinitely variable filters. Like all the Icoms though, you will have to remove the LF/MW attenuation though. -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8 & ERGO software Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A. GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whip http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx "john" wrote in message ups.com... Telamon wrote: In article . com, "john" wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. The Drake R8 series are good all round radios. They have all the essential features for quality broadcast listening, Dxing, utilities, SSB ham reception. The R75 makes an excellent door stop to the radio room. dxace and telmon, exactly my feeling - the drakes come with everything you need - i have a palstar and many people say the palstar's deep audio and low noise floor is similiar to the drakes - if thats the case i'm going with an r8a - also do not like the idea of sending out my radio for mods right after i purchase it new - seems it should have all the goodies already. have you guy personally used the r75? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
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"john" wrote: Telamon wrote: In article . com, "john" wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. The Drake R8 series are good all round radios. They have all the essential features for quality broadcast listening, Dxing, utilities, SSB ham reception. The R75 makes an excellent door stop to the radio room. dxace and telmon, exactly my feeling - the drakes come with everything you need - i have a palstar and many people say the palstar's deep audio and low noise floor is similiar to the drakes - if thats the case i'm going with an r8a - also do not like the idea of sending out my radio for mods right after i purchase it new - seems it should have all the goodies already. have you guy personally used the r75? Nope. Some people like the radio. You can modify it and its an OK radio to listen to the broadcasters on but the claim to fame is Dxing using SSB. You can probably buy a used one with all the modifications already installed. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
john wrote: Telamon wrote: In article . com, "john" wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. The Drake R8 series are good all round radios. They have all the essential features for quality broadcast listening, Dxing, utilities, SSB ham reception. The R75 makes an excellent door stop to the radio room. dxace and telmon, exactly my feeling - the drakes come with everything you need - i have a palstar and many people say the palstar's deep audio and low noise floor is similiar to the drakes - if thats the case i'm going with an r8a - also do not like the idea of sending out my radio for mods right after i purchase it new - seems it should have all the goodies already. have you guy personally used the r75? I had the opportunity to use a Kiwa modified R75 for about 5-6 hours sometime back, side-to-side with the Drakes. I wasn't impressed. Neither was the new owner who sold it on and purchased a Drake. However, as I don't do any NDB DXing, John Plimmer may be quite correct about the narrower filter issue re the R75 vs. R8x. dxAce Michigan USA Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B I swear by, not at, Drake receivers© |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
"john" wrote in message ups.com... just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john Hiya... I have an R75 with all the Kiwa mods. Even without the Kiwa mods, the R75 is a decent radio for program listening. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The criticisms of the R75's audio are really overstated. I've found that the Kiwa audio mod helps out a bit, but it isn't a tremendous improvement. You'll no doubt get Drake fans spewing out all kinds garbage about the R75 "making a good door stop", but the absurd and inflammatory nature of their statements are their own indictment. They don't like the idea of a $500.00 dollar radio outperforming one that they paid $1,800.00 for. I've also used each and every one of the R8 series radios. They are not... I repeat... NOT as good for DX'ing as is the R75. That isn't brand loyalty, that is a fact. The R8's with their warm audio and ssb selectable sycn is absolutely superlative for program listening. BUT.... That doesn't mean that the R75 is a bad radio for program listening. It's adequate to good. And... Once again... You don't need the friggin mods. When I really want to dress up the audio from my R75, I run it through my PC's sound card. I have a five point surround sound speaker set up with a full software equalizer and effects package. If I use ssb ecss tuning to listen to a weak or messy broadcast signal with my R75 or with any other radio, I run it through my sound card and use my software mixer/effects to make it sound as full and robust as if it was is AM mode. I have a number of mixer/effects presets that I have set up just for that exact purpose. Not to mention, if you get a broadcast that is too muffled or too tinny or has too much mid range, all you have to do is more a few sliders on the mixer and viola... A comfortable broadcast to listen to. So... I can get my R75 to sound great for broadcast, but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75. Michael |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
Michael wrote:
"but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75." An R8 may not perform up to a R75, but the R8A/B will outperform it. Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8 & ERGO software Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A. GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whip http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx "Michael" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ups.com... just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john Hiya... I have an R75 with all the Kiwa mods. Even without the Kiwa mods, the R75 is a decent radio for program listening. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The criticisms of the R75's audio are really overstated. I've found that the Kiwa audio mod helps out a bit, but it isn't a tremendous improvement. You'll no doubt get Drake fans spewing out all kinds garbage about the R75 "making a good door stop", but the absurd and inflammatory nature of their statements are their own indictment. They don't like the idea of a $500.00 dollar radio outperforming one that they paid $1,800.00 for. I've also used each and every one of the R8 series radios. They are not... I repeat... NOT as good for DX'ing as is the R75. That isn't brand loyalty, that is a fact. The R8's with their warm audio and ssb selectable sycn is absolutely superlative for program listening. BUT.... That doesn't mean that the R75 is a bad radio for program listening. It's adequate to good. And... Once again... You don't need the friggin mods. When I really want to dress up the audio from my R75, I run it through my PC's sound card. I have a five point surround sound speaker set up with a full software equalizer and effects package. If I use ssb ecss tuning to listen to a weak or messy broadcast signal with my R75 or with any other radio, I run it through my sound card and use my software mixer/effects to make it sound as full and robust as if it was is AM mode. I have a number of mixer/effects presets that I have set up just for that exact purpose. Not to mention, if you get a broadcast that is too muffled or too tinny or has too much mid range, all you have to do is more a few sliders on the mixer and viola... A comfortable broadcast to listen to. So... I can get my R75 to sound great for broadcast, but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75. Michael |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
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"Michael" wrote: "john" wrote in message ups.com... just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john Hiya... I have an R75 with all the Kiwa mods. Even without the Kiwa mods, the R75 is a decent radio for program listening. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The criticisms of the R75's audio are really overstated. I've found that the Kiwa audio mod helps out a bit, but it isn't a tremendous improvement. You'll no doubt get Drake fans spewing out all kinds garbage about the R75 "making a good door stop", but the absurd and inflammatory nature of their statements are their own indictment. Snip Well I should hope so. I though the sarcasm was obvious not unlike the rest of your post. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
Michael wrote: "john" wrote in message ups.com... just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john Hiya... I have an R75 with all the Kiwa mods. Even without the Kiwa mods, the R75 is a decent radio for program listening. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The criticisms of the R75's audio are really overstated. I've found that the Kiwa audio mod helps out a bit, but it isn't a tremendous improvement. You'll no doubt get Drake fans spewing out all kinds garbage about the R75 "making a good door stop", but the absurd and inflammatory nature of their statements are their own indictment. They don't like the idea of a $500.00 dollar radio outperforming one that they paid $1,800.00 for. I've also used each and every one of the R8 series radios. They are not... I repeat... NOT as good for DX'ing as is the R75. Your DX'ing must be a lot different from my DX'ing... That isn't brand loyalty, that is a fact. Nah, it's just your opinion. The R8's with their warm audio and ssb selectable sycn is absolutely superlative for program listening. BUT.... That doesn't mean that the R75 is a bad radio for program listening. It's adequate to good. And... Once again... You don't need the friggin mods. When I really want to dress up the audio from my R75, I run it through my PC's sound card. I have a five point surround sound speaker set up with a full software equalizer and effects package. If I use ssb ecss tuning to listen to a weak or messy broadcast signal with my R75 or with any other radio, I run it through my sound card and use my software mixer/effects to make it sound as full and robust as if it was is AM mode. I have a number of mixer/effects presets that I have set up just for that exact purpose. Not to mention, if you get a broadcast that is too muffled or too tinny or has too much mid range, all you have to do is more a few sliders on the mixer and viola... A comfortable broadcast to listen to. So... I can get my R75 to sound great for broadcast, but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75. Hmmmm.. you tell us how great the R75 is then you turn around and tell us about all the tricks required to make it sound right. PC, sound card, mixer, sliders, and even a viola! Very interesting. dxAce Michigan USA Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B. |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
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dxAce wrote: Michael wrote: "john" wrote in message ups.com... just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john Hiya... I have an R75 with all the Kiwa mods. Even without the Kiwa mods, the R75 is a decent radio for program listening. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The criticisms of the R75's audio are really overstated. I've found that the Kiwa audio mod helps out a bit, but it isn't a tremendous improvement. You'll no doubt get Drake fans spewing out all kinds garbage about the R75 "making a good door stop", but the absurd and inflammatory nature of their statements are their own indictment. They don't like the idea of a $500.00 dollar radio outperforming one that they paid $1,800.00 for. I've also used each and every one of the R8 series radios. They are not... I repeat... NOT as good for DX'ing as is the R75. Your DX'ing must be a lot different from my DX'ing... That isn't brand loyalty, that is a fact. Nah, it's just your opinion. The R8's with their warm audio and ssb selectable sycn is absolutely superlative for program listening. BUT.... That doesn't mean that the R75 is a bad radio for program listening. It's adequate to good. And... Once again... You don't need the friggin mods. When I really want to dress up the audio from my R75, I run it through my PC's sound card. I have a five point surround sound speaker set up with a full software equalizer and effects package. If I use ssb ecss tuning to listen to a weak or messy broadcast signal with my R75 or with any other radio, I run it through my sound card and use my software mixer/effects to make it sound as full and robust as if it was is AM mode. I have a number of mixer/effects presets that I have set up just for that exact purpose. Not to mention, if you get a broadcast that is too muffled or too tinny or has too much mid range, all you have to do is more a few sliders on the mixer and viola... A comfortable broadcast to listen to. So... I can get my R75 to sound great for broadcast, but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75. Hmmmm.. you tell us how great the R75 is then you turn around and tell us about all the tricks required to make it sound right. PC, sound card, mixer, sliders, and even a viola! Very interesting. Actually very amusing. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
John Plimmer wrote: Michael wrote: "but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75." An R8 may not perform up to a R75, but the R8A/B will outperform it. Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's I have owned both the ICOM R75 & R8B *Note this is B revision and not what OP asked for. I had to sell the Drake R8B in order to pay for a thumb reconnecting operation. I wouldn't have gotten near enough money I needed for a thumb reconnection by selling the ICOM. So you see when you get yourself into a real big jam and need cash then it is better to have the Drake R8B than the ICOM. The Drake R8B is a serious radio out of the box. The Icom R75 ( I am told) has some potential, but to tell the truth it really isn't so good of a radio. It sounds very bad on AM. I send audio from headphone jack into a pair of amplified pc speakers, but even with the wide filter it is still muddy. Crappy audio. I don't have the same setup that Michael has and sounds like his setup sounds good. I wonder where he picks off the audio. The Drake sounded really nice. It has a good sync detector and very nice filter selection. The real reason I sold the Drake was because I knew I would replace it with another serious radio. A newer Racal, or a Harris 590A, or maybe I think it is a Ten-Tec RX340 that that fella Phil likes so much. Probably the Harris. I couldn't justify having two very expensive radios in the shack so the R75 is just here as a backup radio until I get cash flow to buy another real radio. 73 NEO |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
"John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75." An R8 may not perform up to a R75, but the R8A/B will outperform it. Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's Your off the mark here. Way off. I've used both radio's side by side with the same antenna. The R75 is a better DX'ing radio. Better for utility and better for DX'ing. The people that dispute this are "fans" of the Drake radios. Key word here "fans". Like a person who keeps going to see Boston loose to NY. The keep loosing, but they still love thier team. Also.... Your statement "Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's" further demonstrates just how far off the mark you are. If a "Top" DX'er or a professional with a job to do selected his gear, it wouldent be an R8 series. He'd pick one of his WJ's off the rack. At the very least, he'd take an ICOM 746Pro or somthing at least as capable. While your contemplating your next post, put "Take Me Out To the Ball Game" in your CD player and have yourself a hot dog. Michael |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
Michael wrote: "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75." An R8 may not perform up to a R75, but the R8A/B will outperform it. Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's Your off the mark here. Way off. I've used both radio's side by side with the same antenna. The R75 is a better DX'ing radio. Better for utility and better for DX'ing. The people that dispute this are "fans" of the Drake radios. Key word here "fans". Like a person who keeps going to see Boston loose to NY. The keep loosing, but they still love thier team. Also.... Your statement "Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's" further demonstrates just how far off the mark you are. If a "Top" DX'er or a professional with a job to do selected his gear, it wouldent be an R8 series. He'd pick one of his WJ's off the rack. At the very least, he'd take an ICOM 746Pro or somthing at least as capable. While your contemplating your next post, put "Take Me Out To the Ball Game" in your CD player and have yourself a hot dog. Michael Where ya been friend. I think Boston beat the Evil Empire a year ago and went on to win the World Series. As I recall the Red Sox may have been down 3 games and won 4 in a row as well. 73 NEO Uxbridge, MA |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dxAce wrote: Michael wrote: "john" wrote in message ups.com... just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john Hiya... I have an R75 with all the Kiwa mods. Even without the Kiwa mods, the R75 is a decent radio for program listening. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The criticisms of the R75's audio are really overstated. I've found that the Kiwa audio mod helps out a bit, but it isn't a tremendous improvement. You'll no doubt get Drake fans spewing out all kinds garbage about the R75 "making a good door stop", but the absurd and inflammatory nature of their statements are their own indictment. They don't like the idea of a $500.00 dollar radio outperforming one that they paid $1,800.00 for. I've also used each and every one of the R8 series radios. They are not... I repeat... NOT as good for DX'ing as is the R75. Your DX'ing must be a lot different from my DX'ing... That isn't brand loyalty, that is a fact. Nah, it's just your opinion. The R8's with their warm audio and ssb selectable sycn is absolutely superlative for program listening. BUT.... That doesn't mean that the R75 is a bad radio for program listening. It's adequate to good. And... Once again... You don't need the friggin mods. When I really want to dress up the audio from my R75, I run it through my PC's sound card. I have a five point surround sound speaker set up with a full software equalizer and effects package. If I use ssb ecss tuning to listen to a weak or messy broadcast signal with my R75 or with any other radio, I run it through my sound card and use my software mixer/effects to make it sound as full and robust as if it was is AM mode. I have a number of mixer/effects presets that I have set up just for that exact purpose. Not to mention, if you get a broadcast that is too muffled or too tinny or has too much mid range, all you have to do is more a few sliders on the mixer and viola... A comfortable broadcast to listen to. So... I can get my R75 to sound great for broadcast, but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75. Hmmmm.. you tell us how great the R75 is then you turn around and tell us about all the tricks required to make it sound right. PC, sound card, mixer, sliders, and even a viola! Very interesting. Actually very amusing. "Interesting" was the better choice. No question you'll get conditions that your R8b's synch wont help with. If you spend any time at all listening to SW, you'd learn that your first day on the dial. Not to mention, you'll find all kinds of over or undermodulated broadcasts. And plenty of them with too much bottom or too much top. If you spent a day in your life listening, you'd know that. No matter how slick your R8b sounds listening to a clean broadcast or one with a minimal amount of distortion or intermod, most of what is out there sounds far from desirable given the nature of sw. Using your sound card and a full software equalizer and effects set up on your PC to mix signals is not only an outstanding tool, once you've gotten good with it, you'd consider it to be an essential part of your sw listening gear. You would really be amazed at what you could do just by rolling over or boosting part of the audio. That doesn't even include things like reverb or audio level clipping. I'm astounded that it hasn't become the norm. Michael |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
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"Michael" wrote: "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75." An R8 may not perform up to a R75, but the R8A/B will outperform it. Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's Your off the mark here. Way off. I've used both radio's side by side with the same antenna. The R75 is a better DX'ing radio. Better for utility and better for DX'ing. The people that dispute this are "fans" of the Drake radios. Key word here "fans". Like a person who keeps going to see Boston loose to NY. The keep loosing, but they still love thier team. Also.... Your statement "Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's" further demonstrates just how far off the mark you are. If a "Top" DX'er or a professional with a job to do selected his gear, it wouldent be an R8 series. He'd pick one of his WJ's off the rack. At the very least, he'd take an ICOM 746Pro or somthing at least as capable. While your contemplating your next post, put "Take Me Out To the Ball Game" in your CD player and have yourself a hot dog. I think the main problem here is that there has been so much BS posted here by a few people in the past about the R75 and Drake R8B that I for one turn a deaf ear to posts such as yours. The R75 is a tar'ed and feathered radio. The radios specifications just do not support your suppositions. That's the way it is Michael. A professional would not pick a Drake R8B or a ICOM 746 pro. He would pick an RX340, one of the Watkins Johnson radios, or another make of radio in that caliber. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:43:00 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote: Back in the early 70's, I was using an adapted parametric equalizer to aid in DXing. I had it connected to the output of my R390 by Hammarlund and output it to a low noise amplifier that had a headphone out. This allowed me to do some very nice things on adjacent channels, like adjusting the audio to match the desired station and not the interfering one, or to narrow the bandwidth of the audio to make the weaker signal less covered by splatter... or to remove lower frequency hets that added to the interference. At that time, the only good parametrics were designed for broadcast and sound reinforcement use, so matching levels and impedances was a big issue, but I found that using this sort of device (the eq can amp cost more than the R390, which I had bought new) on MW and tropical band DX made all the difference in the world. I believe only Collins made the R-390. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Massenburg |
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"Michael" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Michael" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. In article , "Michael" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message .com... In article , "Michael" wrote: "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "but I cant get the R8 to perform for DX'ing like the R75." An R8 may not perform up to a R75, but the R8A/B will outperform it. Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's Your off the mark here. Way off. I've used both radio's side by side with the same antenna. The R75 is a better DX'ing radio. Better for utility and better for DX'ing. The people that dispute this are "fans" of the Drake radios. Key word here "fans". Like a person who keeps going to see Boston loose to NY. The keep loosing, but they still love thier team. Also.... Your statement "Some of the top DXer's in the world use R8A/B's" further demonstrates just how far off the mark you are. If a "Top" DX'er or a professional with a job to do selected his gear, it wouldent be an R8 series. He'd pick one of his WJ's off the rack. At the very least, he'd take an ICOM 746Pro or somthing at least as capable. While your contemplating your next post, put "Take Me Out To the Ball Game" in your CD player and have yourself a hot dog. I think the main problem here is that there has been so much BS posted here by a few people in the past about the R75 and Drake R8B that I for one turn a deaf ear to posts such as yours. The R75 is a tar'ed and feathered radio. 4 3/8 stars from passport is far from "tarred and feathered" Yeah, tarred and feathered in this news group. The amount of BS posted in rec.radio.shortwave is huge. Not tarred and feathered by this newsgroup. ATTEMPTED tar and feather job by a few Drake brand loyalists. Your acting out with no more sense then drunken red necks at a tractor pull having a fist fight over Ford vs. Chevy. Don't speak for the newsgroup. Don't speak for anyone other then yourself. You don't have the brains for it. No way. The R75 proponents sink on their own arguments. No need to bring in their opponents. Speaking for myself I own four bands of radios not just Drake so labeling me a "Drake loyalist" falls flat on its face. As for acting out I act out against BS posts for the benefit of people trying to get unbiased information from the news group. Another derogatory remark from you about red necks and tractor pulls is just another lame attempt to change the subject. I'm not the problem here you are. I'm being being objective and you are not. " You don't have the brains for it. " As yet another attack on me rather than sick to the subject you characterize my post as speaking for the news group. So lets tally up your remarks. 1. Attack Telamon as a Drake loyalist. 2. Attack Telamon as a red neck. 3. Attack Telamon as speaking for the news group. 4. Attack Telamon for being unintelligent. Attacks on Telamon 4. Facts in support of your exceeding weak and untenable position 0. Lousy record. My point is this... I've used both radios. The R75 is better for DX'ing. In this case, spec sheets are useless. I'm not going to reduce this to the level of the statistician. The R75 in my experience is more sensitive, and even more importantly, more capable for dealing with DX. The twin PBT is unbeatable by the R8. In this case, comparing the vital statistics of both radios stated on speck sheets is worthless. And as far as attacks go, you've made a few of them on me too. Another shot to my mid section. Ohhhhh.... My Spleeeeen !!!! Oh grow up. I don't see how stating the obviousness of what you posted is an attack on your person. I'm not responsible for what you post. Nice of you to stop the personal attacks in favor of actually supporting your suppositions though. Spec sheet are useless? No way I'm buying that. So far you mention sensitivity and I don't much of a difference there. The twin PBT tuning well I think you made your first actual point. Congratulations. How about the fact that the R75 has selectable filters in two IF stages? Does that do anything for you? Maybe better image rejection? The radios specifications just do not support your suppositions. That's the way it is Michael. No, that isn't the way it is. I've used both radios. I don't need a person that is queer for Drake radios to tell me "how it is". I can understand how upsetting and embarrassing it is to have an $1,800.00 + radio outperformed for dx'ing and utility by a $500 radio. That is the way it is. That being said, I could care less how many radios Icom or Drake sell. I could care less if both companies switch to selling whole canned chickens. Give your brain a chance. You aren't gaining anything for yourself with your fallacious statements. Same old line of crapola espoused by several posters in the past riddled with inaccurate, unfounded statements. You are an odd person to say the least to use expressions like "queer for Drake radios." It just means you can't stand on the facts and have to change the argument. Example is I state about the amount of false and misleading statements about the R75 and Drake R8B in the news group and you go to reviews in Passport. Then you decide that "I'm queer for Drake radios" as an attack instead of sticking to the facts. You are just more of the same old voluminous BS by a few in-duh-vid-uals in the past. Imp criticizing you for passing fallacious opinions off as fact with brand loyalty as your motive and you call it an "attack". Try to keep in mind, there are many people that come to this newsgroup that know even less then you do. If that's possible. I hate the idea of one of them eating your BS up like sweat cream out of want for quality information. I'm not loyal to some band as you try to unsuccessfully portray me. The attacks on the messenger don't work. People will see through the fallacies you portray. I don't have to do anything other then point them out. You are stuck on Drake vs ICOM but I'm not. Your also stuck on something else I won't mention. This argument isn't about me either it's about the fallacious claims made about the R75. And I'm posting BS - SHOW ME WHERE. Just another attack on me. No factual information in support of your contentions on the R75. Again.... Pardon me for being crude... But in this case... For this comparison, you can wipe your ass with spec. sheets. Really..... Im talking practical hands on time with both radios. I know what the hell the specs are and it would be a useless exercise for me to post links to bench marks. This is completely unnecessary, makes you look childish, and does nothing to support your position. You are so concerned about what I pay for radios. What I spend on radios is a drop in the bucket for me, it's a non-issue, just more BS from you. Besides unlike yourself I look at specifications, reviews from people without an ax to grind and consequently make decision I don't regret. I could care less about what you pay for your radio's or any other products that you enjoy. Im pointing out that in the case of the R75 vs. the R8 series, the retail cost of each radio in comparison to each other isn't proportional to the respective performance of each radio. Quite the contrary. And please don't boast about your financial prowess. It makes you appear wanting. Excuse me and I quote: "I can understand how upsetting and embarrassing it is to have an $1,800.00 + radio outperformed for dx'ing and utility by a $500 radio. " I actually pay attention to what you post and answer your objections. Don't give me this crap about you could care less about what I pay for radios, I'm answering your argument not boasting about myself. Stop changing the subject. This is attack number 5 on me instead of supporting your position on the R75. You consider all my deserved contradictions of your baseless positions as "attacks". Let me be as simple as I can.... Once again... Im not going to be a bore and post bench maks. I would not remind you of what you already know so well. I've used both radios. The R75 is a better DX'ing rig. Get it through your head. The R75 is simply better for resolving very poor signals. Your deserved contradictions from the previous post are all attacks on my person as I listed them and no facts on supporting your contentions so what now? Are you going to argue that you did not post the previous reply? I got the fact you have used both radios. I read your replies. Now can you get it through your thick skull that your posting style does not inspire confidence in what you post. How am I supposed to respect the posts from someone that attacks me and wipes his butt with printed specifications. Remember, I don't know you from Adam and what you post is all I have to judge you on. A professional would not pick a Drake R8B or a ICOM 746 pro. He would pick an RX340, one of the Watkins Johnson radios, or another make of radio in that caliber. I think I stated above that a WJ would be the choice of a pro. Hypothetically speaking, if pro had to use a consumer radio, he'd take something like a 746Pro over an R8 series. No he wouldn't, he would pick a radio designed for the task and that is not a Drake R8B or a Ham transceiver. Look, when you make dumb statements and then you won't back down from them does not help your credibility, which already suffers due to the tired re-posting the same old crapola about the R75. Read above where I said a pro would take a "WJ". Then... read the word "hypothetically" as it relates to my statement regarding the 746Pro. Cognitive thinking doesn't seem to be your strong point. Yeah I read where you want to lead someone to yet another untenable position. You sound as dumb as another thread comparing cheap Chinese portables to much better and costly receivers. I'm not a fan of Chinese consumer electronics at this point, but I see nothing wrong with making comparisons. Making a comparison between radios is not an attempt to equate the performance of a lesser radio to a better one. Only a proven half wit could come up with that argument. Well, what can I say to that. Nothing. To sum up your reply 0 fact to support your position on the R75 6 attacks on Telamon 2 other diversive comments to muddy your posts points. How sad. Apparently you have no defense on what you post about the R75. It's all about me or some BS instead. You need to spend more time doing hands on work with both radios. Honestly... A little more hands on and a little less sophistry. No personal attack intended. So relying of published specifications is "sophistry". Well crap I do this all the time at work professionally. Guess I'm in big trouble there. You have me at a disadvantage as I don't have an R75 to get my hands on and I'm not likely to buy one given the state of the radio so by default I would usually defer to your experience but the stridency of your posts have put them in question I'm afraid. Let me put it to you another way, you have been your own worst enemy just like the other R75 supporters of the past. I'm not saying you are as bad as some of those people as they lied unabashedly but what you have done appears as part of a poor pattern of posts on the subject that certainly do not inspire confidence. You ask that I ignore specification sheets and instead fully rely on your experience when I don't know you and your posting style does not inspire confidence in your observations on the operation of the R75. I realize this is a contentious issue fomented by myself at this time by sarcastically posting the R75 makes a good door stop but I for one did not learn much in this thread. Oh well. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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On Dec 31, 8:42 pm, David wrote: On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:43:00 GMT, "David Eduardo" wrote: Back in the early 70's, I was using an adapted parametric equalizer to aid in DXing. I had it connected to the output of my R390 by Hammarlund and output it to a low noise amplifier that had a headphone out. This allowed me to do some very nice things on adjacent channels, like adjusting the audio to match the desired station and not the interfering one, or to narrow the bandwidth of the audio to make the weaker signal less covered by splatter... or to remove lower frequency hets that added to the interference. At that time, the only good parametrics were designed for broadcast and sound reinforcement use, so matching levels and impedances was a big issue, but I found that using this sort of device (the eq can amp cost more than the R390, which I had bought new) on MW and tropical band DX made all the difference in the world. - I believe only Collins made the R-390. David, The R-390 was designed and Made-by-Collins. http://www.penan.net/dx/r-390a.htm The original Contract Date was 1951 http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/bapix/R390.html NOTE - A cost-reduced Second Generation Receiver was also Designed-by-Collins and Designated as R-390A. Under this new Contract the R-390A was made by a number of Manufacturers including Collins. http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2480 What did "Helena Rubenstien" have to do with the Collins R-390A ? ? ? http://www.dxing.com/rx/r390a.htm Over 54,000 Collins designed R-390"A" models were made by Collins and many other manufacturers including: Motorola, Stewart-Warner, Capehart, Amelco, Teledyne, EAC, Fowler Ind., Dittmore-Freimuth and Helena Rubenstein (reportedly). http://www.fernblatt.net/390.html Check-Out the Collins R-390A "FAQs" Frequently Asked Questions WebPage http://www.r-390a.net/ ABOUT - Collins Radio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins_Radio "Collins Radio Quick Reference" by KK6HY http://www.wa3key.com/kk6hy.html yes more than you wanted to know ~ RHF |
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message . net... "Telamon" wrote in message news:telamon_spamshield- So relying of published specifications is "sophistry". Well crap I do this all the time at work professionally. Guess I'm in big trouble there. You have me at a disadvantage as I don't have an R75 to get my hands on and I'm not likely to buy one given the state of the radio so by default I would usually defer to your experience but the stridency of your posts have put them in question I'm afraid. I have an R8 and an R75, as well as a TenTec 350... the 75 is the worst of the lot for AM DX on Medium Wave and topical bands, even with the full gamut of mods. It is not a bad rig, but is an order of magnitude less effective in all aspects. I got it for a location where I do not spend much time, so it is OK... but would never be my choice for the more difficult DX. If you are a dedicated DXer, and one radio will give you an ID and another will not, how do you put a price on such a difference? No question... The R75 isnt a good MW rig. I wouldent choose it for MW DX either. But... I would take it over the R8 for SW DX any day of the week !!!! Michael |
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Telatubbie Wrote: Oh grow up. I don't see how stating the obviousness of what you posted is an attack on your person. I'm not responsible for what you post. Nice of you to stop the personal attacks in favor of actually supporting your suppositions though. Spec sheet are useless? No way I'm buying that. So far you mention sensitivity and I don't much of a difference there. The twin PBT tuning well I think you made your first actual point. Congratulations. How about the fact that the R75 has selectable filters in two IF stages? Does that do anything for you? Maybe better image rejection? OK, Einstein.... One more time for you. If you spent a day in your life with the R75, you'd have a fairly good idea of what makes the R75 perform well. Your commenting on the R75 and so am I, so I'm taking it as a matter of course that BOTH of us know more then just our ass from our elbow. Twin BPT and two filters in series have been stated to the point of being a criminal waste of bandwidth and time. You might as well state that an Subaru is usefull because it has four wheel drive. Two idiots that know what the hell a Suburu is dont need to say that out loud. The same applies here. I'm also going to take it for granted that we both know that the R75 and the R8 are shortwave radios and each has a power on switch. Your deserved contradictions from the previous post are all attacks on my person as I listed them and no facts on supporting your contentions so what now? Are you going to argue that you did not post the previous reply? I got the fact you have used both radios. I read your replies. Now can you get it through your thick skull that your posting style does not inspire confidence in what you post. How am I supposed to respect the posts from someone that attacks me and wipes his butt with printed specifications. Remember, I don't know you from Adam and what you post is all I have to judge you on. I did not.... I REPEAT... Did not make a blanket statement recommending the use of spec sheets as ass wipes. In the case of the R75 vs. the R8, I am recommending their use as ass wipes above their use as definitive articles for helping us with this particular comparison. The specs on both the radios are very close. Again.... Perhaps I gave you too much credit when I ASSumed you already had some idea of what both radios are. In this case... And let me say it again... This case meaning (the R75 vs. the R8 for DX'ing).... BOTH OF US UNDERSTANDING THE SPECS ARE VERY CLOSE.... BOTH OF US KNOWING THE R75 AND THE R8 HAVE "ON" BUTTONS.... BOTH OF US KNOWING A SUBARU IS USEFUL DUE TO 4WD.... In this case, my good man.... This SPECIFIC question is best resolved by us swinging-dicks putting the radios to use at length. In this case, my ear is worth more then the spec sheet. So relying of published specifications is "sophistry". Well crap I do this all the time at work professionally. Guess I'm in big trouble there. Previously you boasted about your financial prowess... Now you tell me you cant get by at work without instruction manuals. I never read one in my life. My first rule for technical manuals and instruction booklets. Throw them out before starting. If something blows up get first aid and write a strongly worded letter to the manufacturer. Michael |
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john wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john It seems that Michael in his zeal to defend the R75 forgot the original question. "drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75." The Drake R8 series is sensitive on "LONGWAVE" with no modifications. The R75 needs modifications to match the R8's performance on MW and LONGWAVE. That said, when it has been modified, the R75 performance is good. I have owned both and preferred the R8B. Michael............grow up and get a life, or at least learn to respond to the original posters question..... |
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"H. State" wrote in message oups.com... john wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john It seems that Michael in his zeal to defend the R75 forgot the original question. "drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75." The Drake R8 series is sensitive on "LONGWAVE" with no modifications. The R75 needs modifications to match the R8's performance on MW and LONGWAVE. That said, when it has been modified, the R75 performance is good. I have owned both and preferred the R8B. Michael............grow up and get a life, or at least learn to respond to the original posters question..... Try your best to avoid your obvious compulsion to be abusive and antagonistic without provocation and listen up. The original post leaves plenty of room for comment regarding the performance of both the R75 and the R8. My post was not in defense of the R75 nor was it a hatchet job on the R8. It doesn't take more then the sense that god gave a mule to understand that. I've also found that individuals who use the infantile and banal cliché "get a life" are to a man/woman, the ones lacking in accomplishments, education and relationships. Is it your unique understanding of those deficiencies that prompt you to use it also ??? Michael |
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Michael wrote: "H. State" wrote in message oups.com... john wrote: just wondering i don't own a drake r8, r8a or r8b, but i am thinking of purchasing an r8 or r8a. does anyone use this radio for dxing NDB's and how does it perform on longwave. i'm also reading alot about the r75 as a pure dx radio, especially with the mods, but it seems the drake never gets the heads up vs the r75 as a pure dxer. it also seems that the drake is the better BCB listening radio due to its better audio. i would love to hear from someone who owns both. and has compared them in this respect. thx, john It seems that Michael in his zeal to defend the R75 forgot the original question. "drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75." The Drake R8 series is sensitive on "LONGWAVE" with no modifications. The R75 needs modifications to match the R8's performance on MW and LONGWAVE. That said, when it has been modified, the R75 performance is good. I have owned both and preferred the R8B. Michael............grow up and get a life, or at least learn to respond to the original posters question..... Try your best to avoid your obvious compulsion to be abusive and antagonistic without provocation and listen up. The original post leaves plenty of room for comment regarding the performance of both the R75 and the R8. My post was not in defense of the R75 nor was it a hatchet job on the R8. It doesn't take more then the sense that god gave a mule to understand that. I've also found that individuals who use the infantile and banal cliché "get a life" are to a man/woman, the ones lacking in accomplishments, education and relationships. Is it your unique understanding of those deficiencies that prompt you to use it also ??? Michael You might want to take reading comprehension 101 over again. You must be an aspiring politician, you never addressed or answered the original question, but you danced all around it. Bottom line, the R75 has the LW and MW frequencies attentuated and the R8 series doesn't. See, that wasn't so hard was it? |
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Michael" wrote: My dilemma is that I don't have experience with the R75 Bingo Funny guy. How about the rest of the sentence. "My dilemma is that I don't have experience with the R75 and you claim that you do but your posts do not inspire any confidence in your comparative claims between the radios." You can discount anything that I offer by calling me a fraud. Given you don't have my experience with both radios coupled with the fact that you are arguing a fallacious point with respect to the R75 vs. the R8 for DX, decrying me as a fraud is a very convenient thing for you to do. And you hypocritically protest that I am the one attacking you. Not having experience with an R75 is not in itself a dilemma. This is just another blatant attempt to misconstrue what I posted, which shows that you are not serious about the subject and just a Troll. You've tried to nullify the fact that you are on the loosing side of this exchange by calling me a fraud and now you are going to write me off as a Troll. Once again... A convenient thing for you to do. I've stated several times that I felt your mistaken position regarding the R75 vs. the R8 was owed to the fact that you were lacking in real hands on experience with the R75 side by side with the R8. I see now that I was not in error. Just to remind you, here are a few of your own little tid-bits. * "The R75 makes an excellent door stop to the radio room." (your statement prior to ANY postings by myself in this thread) * "The R75 is a tar'ed and feathered radio." Both of those statements coming from one with admittedly little or no experience with the R75. All the world trembles before the siring logic of your fiery intellect. Michael |
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"Michael" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Michael" wrote: My dilemma is that I don't have experience with the R75 Bingo Funny guy. How about the rest of the sentence. "My dilemma is that I don't have experience with the R75 and you claim that you do but your posts do not inspire any confidence in your comparative claims between the radios." You can discount anything that I offer by calling me a fraud. Where did I call you a fraud? I quote myself here. "The name calling, digression to cars, crude language, mischaracterizing or misconstruing what I posted, and the like do not inspire confidence in your posted claims." You just can't get the point that your posting style does not convey confidence in what you post. Given you don't have my experience with both radios coupled with the fact that you are arguing a fallacious point with respect to the R75 vs. the R8 for DX, decrying me as a fraud is a very convenient thing for you to do. And you hypocritically protest that I am the one attacking you. What fallacious point with the R75 vs. the R8 for DX have I made? How is it convenient for me to do to decry you as a fraud instead of discussing radio. These are just distractions that I don't care for. I think they are convenient for you since you have no basis for your argument. How is pointing out that your posts were mostly attacks on me instead of information on the radios being hypocritical? Not having experience with an R75 is not in itself a dilemma. This is just another blatant attempt to misconstrue what I posted, which shows that you are not serious about the subject and just a Troll. You've tried to nullify the fact that you are on the loosing side of this exchange by calling me a fraud and now you are going to write me off as a Troll. Once again... A convenient thing for you to do. I've stated several times that I felt your mistaken position regarding the R75 vs. the R8 was owed to the fact that you were lacking in real hands on experience with the R75 side by side with the R8. I see now that I was not in error. Just to remind you, here are a few of your own little tid-bits. * "The R75 makes an excellent door stop to the radio room." (your statement prior to ANY postings by myself in this thread) Yep I admit to that. I already posted this myself so you are not reminding me of anything. Do you have a reading comprehension problem or something? * "The R75 is a tar'ed and feathered radio." This is factual. Both of those statements coming from one with admittedly little or no experience with the R75. All the world trembles before the siring logic of your fiery intellect. Yeah we been over this. This is a dilemma for me and a Troll for you apparently. You are waste of time. You won't talk radio and you won't answer my questions and all you do is twist the meaning of what I post. There is no excuse for this as I write in a straightforward manner. Your misunderstanding and misconstruing follows a deliberate pattern only displayed by one special person that posted here under another handle Mikey. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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You are waste of time. You won't talk radio and you won't answer my questions and all you do is twist the meaning of what I post. There is no excuse for this as I write in a straightforward manner. Your misunderstanding and misconstruing follows a deliberate pattern only displayed by one special person that posted here under another handle Mikey. Lets see... So far you have called me a fraud, a troll and now your accusing me of impersonating some odd poster that you had an exchange with. Your statement likening an R75 to a "door stop" should have been a clear indication to me that you have limited experience with the R75 and limited experience with the hobby in general. That absurd and inflammatory remark was your own indictment. Being that this is a discussion group, I expect and appreciate opposing views. Including, disparaging commentary regarding the R75 or other good radios from posters that are compelled to malign decent products with motives ranging from ignorance to xenophobia. When you make your "door stop" statements, know full well that you have an audience here for it, but part of that audience will take to task. I will speak no more of it. Michael |
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"Michael" wrote: You are waste of time. You won't talk radio and you won't answer my questions and all you do is twist the meaning of what I post. There is no excuse for this as I write in a straightforward manner. Your misunderstanding and misconstruing follows a deliberate pattern only displayed by one special person that posted here under another handle Mikey. Lets see... So far you have called me a fraud, a troll and now your accusing me of impersonating some odd poster that you had an exchange with. Your statement likening an R75 to a "door stop" should have been a clear indication to me that you have limited experience with the R75 and limited experience with the hobby in general. That absurd and inflammatory remark was your own indictment. Being that this is a discussion group, I expect and appreciate opposing views. Including, disparaging commentary regarding the R75 or other good radios from posters that are compelled to malign decent products with motives ranging from ignorance to xenophobia. When you make your "door stop" statements, know full well that you have an audience here for it, but part of that audience will take to task. I will speak no more of it. Sure thing Mikey. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
drake r8 line longwave dx performance and the r75.
"Michael" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message . net... "Telamon" wrote in message news:telamon_spamshield- So relying of published specifications is "sophistry". Well crap I do this all the time at work professionally. Guess I'm in big trouble there. You have me at a disadvantage as I don't have an R75 to get my hands on and I'm not likely to buy one given the state of the radio so by default I would usually defer to your experience but the stridency of your posts have put them in question I'm afraid. I have an R8 and an R75, as well as a TenTec 350... the 75 is the worst of the lot for AM DX on Medium Wave and topical bands, even with the full gamut of mods. It is not a bad rig, but is an order of magnitude less effective in all aspects. I got it for a location where I do not spend much time, so it is OK... but would never be my choice for the more difficult DX. If you are a dedicated DXer, and one radio will give you an ID and another will not, how do you put a price on such a difference? No question... The R75 isnt a good MW rig. I wouldent choose it for MW DX either. But... I would take it over the R8 for SW DX any day of the week !!!! Not for anything below 7 mHz, in any case. The R8 series is vastly better in that frequency range. |
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