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Chris J. Popp December 24th 06 04:01 AM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
Is there a working stream of the atomic clock available? Only one I
could find from the USNO does not work and the URL does not resolve.

If there is not, any idea what I could do to capture the audio and
stream it?

Thanks,
Chris


David December 24th 06 09:20 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
On 23 Dec 2006 20:01:19 -0800, "Chris J. Popp"
wrote:

Is there a working stream of the atomic clock available? Only one I
could find from the USNO does not work and the URL does not resolve.

If there is not, any idea what I could do to capture the audio and
stream it?

Thanks,
Chris

The audio portions of the WWV and WWVH broadcasts can also be heard by
telephone. The time announcements are normally delayed by less than 30
ms when using land lines from within the continental United States,
and the stability (delay variation) is generally 1 ms. When mobile
phones are used, the delays are often more than 100 ms due to the
multiple access methods used to share cell channels. In rare instances
when the telephone connection is made by satellite, the time is
delayed by 250 to 500 ms.

To hear these broadcasts, dial (303) 499-7111 for WWV (Colorado), and
(808) 335-4363 for WWVH (Hawaii). Callers are disconnected after 2
minutes. These are not toll-free numbers; callers outside the local
calling area are charged for the call at regular long-distance rates.

or

2.5, 5 10, 15 and 20 megaHertz...

Chris J. Popp December 26th 06 05:28 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
David,

Thanks for the reply. I know I can hear this by phone or on a ham set.

My grandfather was K9HKE, and when I was growing up he often just had
this going as background noise. I was thinking about him and thought I
would like to just have it as background noise again but I do not have
my ham license.

That's why I thought a stream of it would be nice.


David wrote:
On 23 Dec 2006 20:01:19 -0800, "Chris J. Popp"
wrote:

Is there a working stream of the atomic clock available? Only one I
could find from the USNO does not work and the URL does not resolve.

If there is not, any idea what I could do to capture the audio and
stream it?

Thanks,
Chris

The audio portions of the WWV and WWVH broadcasts can also be heard by
telephone. The time announcements are normally delayed by less than 30
ms when using land lines from within the continental United States,
and the stability (delay variation) is generally 1 ms. When mobile
phones are used, the delays are often more than 100 ms due to the
multiple access methods used to share cell channels. In rare instances
when the telephone connection is made by satellite, the time is
delayed by 250 to 500 ms.

To hear these broadcasts, dial (303) 499-7111 for WWV (Colorado), and
(808) 335-4363 for WWVH (Hawaii). Callers are disconnected after 2
minutes. These are not toll-free numbers; callers outside the local
calling area are charged for the call at regular long-distance rates.

or

2.5, 5 10, 15 and 20 megaHertz...



H. State December 26th 06 05:44 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

Chris J. Popp wrote:
David,

Thanks for the reply. I know I can hear this by phone or on a ham set.

My grandfather was K9HKE, and when I was growing up he often just had
this going as background noise. I was thinking about him and thought I
would like to just have it as background noise again but I do not have
my ham license.

That's why I thought a stream of it would be nice.


David wrote:
On 23 Dec 2006 20:01:19 -0800, "Chris J. Popp"
wrote:

Is there a working stream of the atomic clock available? Only one I
could find from the USNO does not work and the URL does not resolve.

If there is not, any idea what I could do to capture the audio and
stream it?

Thanks,
Chris

The audio portions of the WWV and WWVH broadcasts can also be heard by
telephone. The time announcements are normally delayed by less than 30
ms when using land lines from within the continental United States,
and the stability (delay variation) is generally 1 ms. When mobile
phones are used, the delays are often more than 100 ms due to the
multiple access methods used to share cell channels. In rare instances
when the telephone connection is made by satellite, the time is
delayed by 250 to 500 ms.

To hear these broadcasts, dial (303) 499-7111 for WWV (Colorado), and
(808) 335-4363 for WWVH (Hawaii). Callers are disconnected after 2
minutes. These are not toll-free numbers; callers outside the local
calling area are charged for the call at regular long-distance rates.

or

2.5, 5 10, 15 and 20 megaHertz...



The atomic clocks you buy receive their signal from WWV on 60 Khz. That
is a data signal or as you call it a stream.

They do not receive the signal from any other WWV source.

Harold


John Smith December 26th 06 05:59 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
Chris J. Popp wrote:
David,

Thanks for the reply. I know I can hear this by phone or on a ham set.

My grandfather was K9HKE, and when I was growing up he often just had
this going as background noise. I was thinking about him and thought I
would like to just have it as background noise again but I do not have
my ham license.

That's why I thought a stream of it would be nice.


David wrote:
On 23 Dec 2006 20:01:19 -0800, "Chris J. Popp"
wrote:

Is there a working stream of the atomic clock available? Only one I
could find from the USNO does not work and the URL does not resolve.

If there is not, any idea what I could do to capture the audio and
stream it?

Thanks,
Chris
The audio portions of the WWV and WWVH broadcasts can also be heard by
telephone. The time announcements are normally delayed by less than 30
ms when using land lines from within the continental United States,
and the stability (delay variation) is generally 1 ms. When mobile
phones are used, the delays are often more than 100 ms due to the
multiple access methods used to share cell channels. In rare instances
when the telephone connection is made by satellite, the time is
delayed by 250 to 500 ms.

To hear these broadcasts, dial (303) 499-7111 for WWV (Colorado), and
(808) 335-4363 for WWVH (Hawaii). Callers are disconnected after 2
minutes. These are not toll-free numbers; callers outside the local
calling area are charged for the call at regular long-distance rates.

or

2.5, 5 10, 15 and 20 megaHertz...



The atomic clocks you buy receive their signal from WWV on 60 Khz. That
is a data signal or as you call it a stream.

They do not receive the signal from any other WWV source.

Harold


Think again, my battery operated "atomic clock" has a built in antenna
and gets its update via shortwave!

JS

Michael Black December 26th 06 06:20 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
John Smith ) writes:


Think again, my battery operated "atomic clock" has a built in antenna
and gets its update via shortwave!

Not likely.

There was a time when there were clocks that got data from WWV, but
they tended to be expensive and were never a mass market item.

The recent wave of such clocks use WWVH at 60KHz, and of course
they'd have a built in antenna. But these are far more common
than the old clocks that used WWV.

Michael


John Smith December 26th 06 06:46 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
Michael Black wrote:
John Smith ) writes:


Think again, my battery operated "atomic clock" has a built in antenna
and gets its update via shortwave!

Not likely.
...
Michael


Interesting. So, these battery operated 60 hz atomic clocks just pull
that powerline frequency out of the air, huh?

While I can accept powerline operated clocks get their data stream from
the powerline--how are you proposing the battery operated ones do?

JS

H. State December 26th 06 06:46 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

John Smith wrote:
Michael Black wrote:
John Smith ) writes:


Think again, my battery operated "atomic clock" has a built in antenna
and gets its update via shortwave!

Not likely.
...
Michael


Interesting. So, these battery operated 60 hz atomic clocks just pull
that powerline frequency out of the air, huh?

While I can accept powerline operated clocks get their data stream from
the powerline--how are you proposing the battery operated ones do?

JS


A little thick are we?

They have a built in antenna and are typically updated in the middle of
the night. Usually 2-3 am in the central us.


H. State December 26th 06 06:47 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

John Smith wrote:
H. State wrote:
Chris J. Popp wrote:
David,

Thanks for the reply. I know I can hear this by phone or on a ham set.

My grandfather was K9HKE, and when I was growing up he often just had
this going as background noise. I was thinking about him and thought I
would like to just have it as background noise again but I do not have
my ham license.

That's why I thought a stream of it would be nice.


David wrote:
On 23 Dec 2006 20:01:19 -0800, "Chris J. Popp"
wrote:

Is there a working stream of the atomic clock available? Only one I
could find from the USNO does not work and the URL does not resolve.

If there is not, any idea what I could do to capture the audio and
stream it?

Thanks,
Chris
The audio portions of the WWV and WWVH broadcasts can also be heard by
telephone. The time announcements are normally delayed by less than 30
ms when using land lines from within the continental United States,
and the stability (delay variation) is generally 1 ms. When mobile
phones are used, the delays are often more than 100 ms due to the
multiple access methods used to share cell channels. In rare instances
when the telephone connection is made by satellite, the time is
delayed by 250 to 500 ms.

To hear these broadcasts, dial (303) 499-7111 for WWV (Colorado), and
(808) 335-4363 for WWVH (Hawaii). Callers are disconnected after 2
minutes. These are not toll-free numbers; callers outside the local
calling area are charged for the call at regular long-distance rates.

or

2.5, 5 10, 15 and 20 megaHertz...



The atomic clocks you buy receive their signal from WWV on 60 Khz. That
is a data signal or as you call it a stream.

They do not receive the signal from any other WWV source.

Harold


Think again, my battery operated "atomic clock" has a built in antenna
and gets its update via shortwave!

JS


Via "Longwave"

Check it out yourself, Mr. Wizard........LOL!!!!!


H. State December 26th 06 06:49 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

Michael Black wrote:
John Smith ) writes:


Think again, my battery operated "atomic clock" has a built in antenna
and gets its update via shortwave!

Not likely.

There was a time when there were clocks that got data from WWV, but
they tended to be expensive and were never a mass market item.

The recent wave of such clocks use WWVH at 60KHz, and of course
they'd have a built in antenna. But these are far more common
than the old clocks that used WWV.

Michael


I see there is at least one other person who "knows" the facts on here.

The last clocks that updated via shortwave, ie: 2.5, 5.0, 10.0,15.0 or
20.0 mhz were built years ago. Heathkit made one available.


H. State December 26th 06 07:07 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

John Smith wrote:
H. State wrote:
...


Talk about "thick", idiot ...

What has that to do with the question ...

JS


The question was answered, 60 khz. That is a data stream but if one has
a sufficient antenna, it can be heard.

Maybe if you wrapped enough around that malformed skull of yours, you
would have enough wire to pick up a longwave signal..........judging
from the shape of it, I would estimate 863 ft. of 22 ga. wire, that
should be sufficient. The oval shape of that wire would receive quite
good if your were to face approximately 10 degrees on a compass reading.


John Smith December 26th 06 07:11 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
...


Talk about "thick", idiot ...

What has that to do with the question ...

JS

John Smith December 26th 06 07:12 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
...


I think I may need to apologize, I didn't know you were autistic!

JS

H. State December 26th 06 07:13 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

John Smith wrote:
H. State wrote:
...


Gesus! You are a MAJOR idiot!

A battery operated atomic clock CANNOT get the data from a 60 hz powerline!

JS


Learning disabled indeed, I stated 60 KHZ Genius.

Goddamn retards!


H. State December 26th 06 07:17 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

John Smith wrote:
H. State wrote:
...


Gesus! You are a MAJOR idiot!

A battery operated atomic clock CANNOT get the data from a 60 hz powerline!

JS


60 Hertz?

Oh, I get it, you didn't take reading comprehension 101 either.

Read again, 60 KHZ or as they said in my day, 60 KC.

Jesus Christ you are one dumb SOB!


John Smith December 26th 06 07:21 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
...


Gesus! You are a MAJOR idiot!

A battery operated atomic clock CANNOT get the data from a 60 hz powerline!

JS

H. State December 26th 06 07:21 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

John Smith wrote:
H. State wrote:
...


Chit, you are correct.

Sorry about that. I will attempt better use of my glasses :(

Regards,
JS


Forgiven, this time.

Next time you attempt to engage in a battle of wits, try not to enter
the fray unarmed.


John Smith December 26th 06 07:26 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
...


Chit, you are correct.

Sorry about that. I will attempt better use of my glasses :(

Regards,
JS

H. State December 26th 06 07:35 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 

John Smith wrote:
H. State wrote:
...


Don't push it, while 60Khz may be good and well for powerline updates.
Shortwave is how my clock gets its updates ...

JS


You must work for a public utility company.

My clock is battery powered and receives the signal on 60 KHZ, as in
KILOHERTZ or KILOCYCLES, whichever you prefer. All the battery powered
clocks built in the past several years are battery powered.

Get a life, you friggin' dumbass!

Happy New Year.


John Smith December 26th 06 07:39 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
...
Forgiven, this time.

Next time you attempt to engage in a battle of wits, try not to enter
the fray unarmed.


Not at all, even idiots like you get lucky :)

JS

John Smith December 26th 06 07:40 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
...


Don't push it, while 60Khz may be good and well for powerline updates.
Shortwave is how my clock gets its updates ...

JS

John Smith December 26th 06 07:48 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
H. State wrote:
John Smith wrote:
H. State wrote:
...


Don't push it, while 60Khz may be good and well for powerline updates.
Shortwave is how my clock gets its updates ...

JS


You must work for a public utility company.

My clock is battery powered and receives the signal on 60 KHZ, as in
KILOHERTZ or KILOCYCLES, whichever you prefer. All the battery powered
clocks built in the past several years are battery powered.

Get a life, you friggin' dumbass!

Happy New Year.


Mine is a wrist watch ...

JS

Carter-k8vt December 26th 06 08:04 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
John Smith wrote:
Michael Black wrote:
John Smith ) writes:


Think again, my battery operated "atomic clock" has a built in
antenna and gets its update via shortwave!

Not likely. ... Michael


Interesting. So, these battery operated 60 hz atomic clocks just
pull that powerline frequency out of the air, huh?

While I can accept powerline operated clocks get their data stream
from the powerline--how are you proposing the battery operated ones
do?

JS



JS,
It appears you do indeed have a comprehension problem.
(I thought it was just a quirk in our go-around a day or two ago, but
you've gone and done it again). Please note that
the poster said 60 *KILO* hertz, NOT 60 Hz. And it's NOT from the
powerline but rather WWVB that transmits a radio signal on 60 *KILO* Hertz.

From NIST (those fine folks that bring you WWV, et al):

NIST radio station WWVB is located on the same site as WWV near Fort
Collins, Colorado. The WWVB broadcasts are used by millions of people
throughout North America to synchronize consumer electronic products
like wall clocks, clock radios, and wris****ches.


Please note the word "wris****ches".

A more detailed description is at:

http://tf.nist.gov/stations/wwvb.htm

Hope that explains it...

Happy New Year

John Smith December 26th 06 08:21 PM

atomic clock audio stream?
 
Carter-k8vt wrote:
...
It appears you do indeed have a comprehension problem.
(I thought it was just a quirk in our go-around a day or two ago, but
you've gone and done it again). Please note that
the poster said 60 *KILO* hertz, NOT 60 Hz. And it's NOT from the
powerline but rather WWVB that transmits a radio signal on 60 *KILO* Hertz.
...


An astute mind would have caught, quickly, I was ignorant to the 60 Khz
signal from WWV. I have only used the 2.5Mhz, 5Mhz, 10Mhz, etc. signals.

The rest you so minutely explain, that was obvious to me ...

JS


hhbell370 July 2nd 14 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Smith (Post 538045)
Carter-k8vt wrote:
...
It appears you do indeed have a comprehension problem.
(I thought it was just a quirk in our go-around a day or two ago, but
you've gone and done it again). Please note that
the poster said 60 *KILO* hertz, NOT 60 Hz. And it's NOT from the
powerline but rather WWVB that transmits a radio signal on 60 *KILO* Hertz.
...


An astute mind would have caught, quickly, I was ignorant to the 60 Khz
signal from WWV. I have only used the 2.5Mhz, 5Mhz, 10Mhz, etc. signals.

The rest you so minutely explain, that was obvious to me ...

JS

Back to the original question, the link http://vintagebbs.org/PSKWorld/wwv2.php has a receiver tuned to the best WWV frequency it can find by scanning every 20 minutes or so.

Buddy Bell


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