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BBC Reception in Los Angeles
Hi all I live up in the west hollywood hills -- if i get an eton e1, do
you think i'll be able to receive bbc broadcasts ? |
BBC Reception in Los Angeles
"tom k in L.A." wrote in message
oups.com... Hi all I live up in the west hollywood hills -- if i get an eton e1, do you think i'll be able to receive bbc broadcasts ? Possibly an Asia/Oceana broadcast. If BBC is all you are interested in, why not just listen online? http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/ Click on Open BBC Radio Player. Let it install the WMP active X control and listen static free 24 hours a day. Mike |
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In article , "Mike"
wrote: "tom k in L.A." wrote in message oups.com... Hi all I live up in the west hollywood hills -- if i get an eton e1, do you think i'll be able to receive bbc broadcasts ? Possibly an Asia/Oceana broadcast. If BBC is all you are interested in, why not just listen online? http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/ Click on Open BBC Radio Player. Let it install the WMP active X control and listen static free 24 hours a day. I don't think that will work on the Eton E1. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"Telamon" wrote in message
... I don't think that will work on the Eton E1. Wow. What a brilliant, incisive comment. The point being, if all he is interested in is BBC, there is little point in buying a $500 radio. His current computer is more than enough. Mike |
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In article , "Mike"
wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... I don't think that will work on the Eton E1. Wow. What a brilliant, incisive comment. The point being, if all he is interested in is BBC, there is little point in buying a $500 radio. His current computer is more than enough. My brilliant and incisive comment pertains to the fact that this is rec.radio.shortwave He has a computer and Internet connection or he could not post to the news group. Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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On 29 Dec 2006 14:13:23 -0800, "tom k in L.A."
wrote: Hi all I live up in the west hollywood hills -- if i get an eton e1, do you think i'll be able to receive bbc broadcasts ? 9740 in the morning is about it. (Unless you get an XM attachment for the E-1. The World Service is on 24/7. Fee required.) |
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Telamon wrote: Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7 |
BBC Reception in Los Angeles
"ve3..." wrote: Telamon wrote: Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7 But it sure as hell ain't shortwave! You may run along now. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message
... "ve3..." wrote: Telamon wrote: Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7 But it sure as hell ain't shortwave! No, it's better than shortwave! Look, I'm a long time shortwave listener. Been listening since the 60s, when America was referred too as "running dog capitalists" by Radio Moscow - and Radio Moscow didn't have commercials! I have dozens of radios here. Grundigs, Tecsuns, Drake, Scott and Zenith antique tube radios, Panasonics, Hallicrafters, Sears, etc. The OP was interested in BBC. I took this to mean he was *only* interested in BBC. If that is indeed the case, he does not need a $500 radio. His computer will work fine. BTW, BBC is not a "low bitrate" stream. 20K for voice is plenty. It sounds better than *any* shortwave radio, and is available 24/7, static, hiss and drift free. Just another option for the OP to consider. Mike |
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dxAce wrote: "ve3..." wrote: Telamon wrote: Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7 But it sure as hell ain't shortwave! You may run along now. dxAce Michigan _________________________________________________ Are you saying that shortwave radio is an obsolete method of program delivery? Get an internet radio, boy. |
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"ve3..." wrote in message
oups.com... Are you saying that shortwave radio is an obsolete method of program delivery? Of course it is. But most people in this group will never admit that. Get an internet radio, boy. Got several - my computers! Mike |
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Mike wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... "ve3..." wrote: Telamon wrote: Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7 But it sure as hell ain't shortwave! No, it's better than shortwave! Pay attention! It's not shortwave. Look, I'm a long time shortwave listener. So am I, and I know full well that listening via the internet is not shortwave Been listening since the 60s, when America was referred too as "running dog capitalists" by Radio Moscow - and Radio Moscow didn't have commercials! Those were the days! I have dozens of radios here. Grundigs, Tecsuns, Drake, Scott and Zenith antique tube radios, Panasonics, Hallicrafters, Sears, etc. That's nice. The OP was interested in BBC. Yes, and by golly he actually mentioned using a shortwave radio in his original post. I took this to mean he was *only* interested in BBC. If that is indeed the case, he does not need a $500 radio. His computer will work fine. Read the above... BTW, BBC is not a "low bitrate" stream. 20K for voice is plenty. It sounds better than *any* shortwave radio, and is available 24/7, static, hiss and drift free. Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave. Sheesh! dxAce Michigan USA |
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"ve3..." wrote: dxAce wrote: "ve3..." wrote: Telamon wrote: Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7 But it sure as hell ain't shortwave! You may run along now. dxAce Michigan _________________________________________________ Are you saying that shortwave radio is an obsolete method of program delivery? Get an internet radio, boy. Stuff that internet radio up your dumb Canucky ass, boy! dxAce Michigan USA |
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Mike wrote: "ve3..." wrote in message oups.com... Are you saying that shortwave radio is an obsolete method of program delivery? Of course it is. But most people in this group will never admit that. Even if it was, this is not rec.internet.listening! Please, try to pay attention. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message
... Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave. It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it. Sheesh! Back atcha. Mike |
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Mike wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave. It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on the net. Well you've told him, and now you both can run along! dxAce Michigan USA |
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In article , "Mike"
wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... "ve3..." wrote: Telamon wrote: Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''' '''''''' '''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7 But it sure as hell ain't shortwave! No, it's better than shortwave! Everybody with a computer and Internet connection knows about radio stations that stream. This technology just like radio has its drawbacks ranging from sound quality to availability so no way in hell are you going to convince a NORMAL THINKING INDIVIDUAL that Internet streaming technology is BETTER. Look, I'm a long time shortwave listener. Been listening since the 60s, when America was referred too as "running dog capitalists" by Radio Moscow - and Radio Moscow didn't have commercials! I have dozens of radios here. Grundigs, Tecsuns, Drake, Scott and Zenith antique tube radios, Panasonics, Hallicrafters, Sears, etc. The OP was interested in BBC. I took this to mean he was *only* interested in BBC. If that is indeed the case, he does not need a $500 radio. His computer will work fine. BTW, BBC is not a "low bitrate" stream. 20K for voice is plenty. It sounds better than *any* shortwave radio, and is available 24/7, static, hiss and drift free. I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears. You must like all your pictures in low resolution too. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Mike wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave. It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it. Sheesh! Back atcha. Mike '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''' The problem with shortwave listening is that there is not much left to listen to. Most of the big international broadcasters have shut down their tranmitters and moved program delivery to the internet or satellite. Radio Finland is this week's loss. There are a few still on the air, like Radio Canada International, producing good programs, but they are on tight budgets and restricted schedules. There are over a thousand people registered to this website, and many of them are new and want to actually listen to something on their new portable sw radios. They want to hear different points of view from foreign locales but all they get on their radios are preachers asking for support (money). By the time they can spell Walterboro, they are discouraged at their inability to hear on shortwave the programs that have moved to the internet. One type of shortwave hobbyist is not paticularly interested in programs but specializes in ferreting out weak and distant stations. The weak broadcast from Ulan Bator or the 50-watt rebel transmitter in deepest Africa are his targets. This specialty requires excellent receivers and big antennas. The fact that the programs are not in English is irrelevant, since the competition of the country count is the thing. Unfortunately, we are at the bottom of the sunspot 11-year cycle so short-wave reception is at its worst and it will be a few years before conditions improve. By then, at the current rate of loss of stations on shortwave, there will be nothing left except preachers and weak remotes that will need top-end equipment that most people will not want to buy. I think we are in a transitional phase. The rapid growth of internet-based radio plus the advances in cell technology will produce a portable cell phone radio that will combine many functions including streamed programs from foreign countries. In fact, you can do this now if you have a newer cell phone and are near a cell. You can listen to the bbc right now as if you had a portable radio...actually you do. When this happy day arrives, rec.radio.shortwave will revert to dx chasing only and the 10 denizens will no longer be bothered by people who want to listen to programs. |
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I can get bbc America on my DirecTV.I never tune in to that biassed
Stupid bbc tv channel though.Besides,that bbc woman on there is UGLY! cuhulin |
BBC Reception in Los Angeles
SHOVE your bbc!
cuhulin |
BBC Reception in Los Angeles
Telamon wrote: BTW, BBC is not a "low bitrate" stream. 20K for voice is plenty. It sounds better than *any* shortwave radio, and is available 24/7, static, hiss and drift free. I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears. You must like all your pictures in low resolution too. -- Telamon Ventura, California """"""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' I agree that 8k internet audio is poor quality but I find the 20k bbc feed much easier on the ears than any shortwave program I hear. Also, technology moves on; and there are lots of 100 k or better internet sites now that are fm quality and the audio quality of all sites will soon surpass that of any shortwave broadcst. For a look at the future, visit the Internet 2 site. |
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that's a dismal but unfortunately probably realistic portrayal.
On Dec 30, 9:38 am, "ve3..." wrote: Mike wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave. It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it. Sheesh! Back atcha. Mike'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''*'''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''' The problem with shortwave listening is that there is not much left to listen to. Most of the big international broadcasters have shut down their tranmitters and moved program delivery to the internet or satellite. Radio Finland is this week's loss. There are a few still on the air, like Radio Canada International, producing good programs, but they are on tight budgets and restricted schedules. There are over a thousand people registered to this website, and many of them are new and want to actually listen to something on their new portable sw radios. They want to hear different points of view from foreign locales but all they get on their radios are preachers asking for support (money). By the time they can spell Walterboro, they are discouraged at their inability to hear on shortwave the programs that have moved to the internet. One type of shortwave hobbyist is not paticularly interested in programs but specializes in ferreting out weak and distant stations. The weak broadcast from Ulan Bator or the 50-watt rebel transmitter in deepest Africa are his targets. This specialty requires excellent receivers and big antennas. The fact that the programs are not in English is irrelevant, since the competition of the country count is the thing. Unfortunately, we are at the bottom of the sunspot 11-year cycle so short-wave reception is at its worst and it will be a few years before conditions improve. By then, at the current rate of loss of stations on shortwave, there will be nothing left except preachers and weak remotes that will need top-end equipment that most people will not want to buy. I think we are in a transitional phase. The rapid growth of internet-based radio plus the advances in cell technology will produce a portable cell phone radio that will combine many functions including streamed programs from foreign countries. In fact, you can do this now if you have a newer cell phone and are near a cell. You can listen to the bbc right now as if you had a portable radio...actually you do. When this happy day arrives, rec.radio.shortwave will revert to dx chasing only and the 10 denizens will no longer be bothered by people who want to listen to programs. |
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In article .com,
"tom k in L.A." wrote: On Dec 30, 9:38 am, "ve3..." wrote: Mike wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave. It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it. Sheesh! Back atcha. Mike'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''*''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' The problem with shortwave listening is that there is not much left to listen to. Snip the usual crapola that's a dismal but unfortunately probably realistic portrayal. The guy a Trolling idiot. Ignore him. There are to many stations to keep track of. Some stations come and go on the air. You want to hear more buy the Eton E1. You need portability buy the Sony 7600GR. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote:
... You need portability buy the Sony 7600GR. How about this one, just to toss in your luggage and have stolen at the airport? http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-ICF-SW07-Sh...QQcmdZViewItem One long link, you make have to paste it together ... Regards, JS |
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"dxAce" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave. It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on the net. Well you've told him, and now you both can run along! And you have told us that "it's not shortwave", so you can run along! Mike |
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"Telamon" wrote in message
... I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears. It sounds better than any shortwave radio. 20K speech is not low bitrate audio. Fading, static and interference on shortwave is tiring on the ears. You must like all your pictures in low resolution too. Only if it's a picture of you. Mike |
BBC Reception in Los Angeles
In article , "Mike"
wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears. It sounds better than any shortwave radio. 20K speech is not low bitrate audio. Fading, static and interference on shortwave is tiring on the ears. Sounds like crap compared to what I get with shortwave radio. You must not know how to get decent reception or maybe you own a crappie radio like the R75. You must like all your pictures in low resolution too. Only if it's a picture of you. I have a picture of you in mind and it's not pretty. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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