Shortwave Log is no more
 

Looks like Mr. Sillett has given up on his Shortwave Log program. His
final post to his Yahoo group was that he couldn't reproduce the
problems people were having with V5 and that he didn't appreciate the
tone of some of the comments he was getting. The next day, the Yahoo
group was gone.

Too bad.

Shortwave Log is no more
 

You know, I never used his program but the same thing has happened with
other computer programs and I can sympathize with the people who
produce them. Invariably the author starts off producing the program as
a "labor of love" but, sooner or later, some - sometimes many - people
complain and annoy the program writer and they do it in a way that is
just mean.

How many of you who use a program that you have found useful have taken
the time to write to the author and thank him/her for it? We cannot
financially support each and every "free" program we use, but we can
ALL thank the writer!

It is a pity that many people - hopefully not any readers here - just
don't demonstrate good manners and show appreciation for something
someone else has done for them. Oftentimes we do notice a flaw or we
may have a suggestion for the author and making a constructive
suggestion (or even constructive criticism in a kind way) is beneficial
to the author and is most often welcomed by him/her. But no one
welcomes nasty comments and, frankly, there is just no call for them.

If all of us would live by the "Golden Rule," wouldn't this be a far
better world?

As always, just my thoughts.

Best,

Joe

wrote:
Looks like Mr. Sillett has given up on his Shortwave Log program. His
final post to his Yahoo group was that he couldn't reproduce the
problems people were having with V5 and that he didn't appreciate the
tone of some of the comments he was getting. The next day, the Yahoo
group was gone.

Too bad.

Shortwave Log is no more
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Looks like Mr. Sillett has given up on his Shortwave Log program. His
final post to his Yahoo group was that he couldn't reproduce the
problems people were having with V5 and that he didn't appreciate the
tone of some of the comments he was getting. The next day, the Yahoo
group was gone.

Too bad.


Well that sucks... I just got the program in time. I checked the webpage and
got a 403.

Rich

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Oftentimes,when I see a website I like and the owner of the website has
oviously done a lot of research and put in a lot of time and effort on
his or her website,I email them and tell them what a nice website they
have.Just last week,I emailed a guy about his M1 Garand Rifle website.
cuhulin

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Shortwave Log is no more
 

Jim Douglas wrote:
The reason seems to be a bunch of non-computer users who were having
problems and constantly bitching about them. I think he said screw it
after all he had worked for years on that program and didn't like the
tone of new users. I posted an email indicating that I would assist in
troubleshooting but never got a reply. Bob if you are reading this
thanks for the program and all the work you have done! Great job!

Jim Douglas

I emailed him just before he shut down the group and thanked him for
all his work. I'm sure I couldn't put up with all the flak either. I
was going to download the latest version and see if I could get it
going but I never got that far. I had tried an earlier version of V5
and had problems. I think it would have been worth working through the
problems. Unfortunately, I deleted the one I had before attempting to
download the new one.

Shortwave Log is no more
 

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:46:27 GMT, Jim Douglas
wrote:

wrote:
Looks like Mr. Sillett has given up on his Shortwave Log program. His
final post to his Yahoo group was that he couldn't reproduce the
problems people were having with V5 and that he didn't appreciate the
tone of some of the comments he was getting. The next day, the Yahoo
group was gone.

Too bad.

The reason seems to be a bunch of non-computer users who were having
problems and constantly bitching about them. I think he said screw it
after all he had worked for years on that program and didn't like the
tone of new users. I posted an email indicating that I would assist in
troubleshooting but never got a reply. Bob if you are reading this
thanks for the program and all the work you have done! Great job!

Agreed...there was a cadre of people on his Yahoo group who seemed
barely capable of installing the software, let alone understanding
that it was a work in progress (with inevitable bugs). It was tiresome
even as a bystander to read their ****ing and moaning, and I can see
how Robert finally got fed up with it.

I really hope he takes some time to decompress, recharge his
batteries, and brings SWLog back to life. I found it to be
indispensable once I got the hang of using it, and as I recall from
his website it had been around in one version or another since
1990(!). It was the only freeware program that I've ever found useful
enough that I made a donation to it anyway.

Shortwave Log is no more
 

I know that Bob sometimes reads the postings in this group. I can
understand his decision to withdraw the program, shut down the Website
and close the Yahoo support group. The grumbling in the Yahoo group
was getting out of control and even though he kept releasing new
maintenance versions and trying to help folks with problems, the
whining continued.

Bob, I want to thank you for a great program and adding the code to
support my Kenwood R-5000. I will continue using it until the external
database formats (HFCC, PTSW, Eibi etc.) change to the point that I
can't load them anymore. Wishing you good DX and hoping one day there
will be an announcement that SWLog is available once again.

Roger

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Shortwave Log is no more
 

Just be Thankfull I don't go to yahoo news groups.
cuhulin

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every time I take a crap,,, me little doggy,,, she walks in (and lays
down on the carpet) and takes a nap.
cuhulin

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Nick:

There is a new Yahoo group for SWLOG Users to facilitate their
discussions about the software program. Bob may have pulled the old
group and his software from his website but there is a need to exchange
info about the program. Go to SWLOG Users on the Yahoo Group page
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swlog_users/) and join.

Frank

Nick B. wrote:
wrote:
I know that Bob sometimes reads the postings in this group. I can
understand his decision to withdraw the program, shut down the Website
and close the Yahoo support group. The grumbling in the Yahoo group
was getting out of control and even though he kept releasing new
maintenance versions and trying to help folks with problems, the
whining continued.

In hindsight it might have helped if some kind of moderation were
introduced. The main shortwave.com website has been pulled but if you
look deep enough you will find the community feature is still there. So
are the online receivers if you check your remote radio client.

Bob, I want to thank you for a great program and adding the code to
support my Kenwood R-5000. I will continue using it until the external
database formats (HFCC, PTSW, Eibi etc.) change to the point that I
can't load them anymore. Wishing you good DX and hoping one day there
will be an announcement that SWLog is available once again.

I'll continue using it, I decided to not to be an "early adopter" of V5
so stuck with build 2411. Fortunately I still have a copy of the
installer, but I can't put it up on the web as Bob has requested that
all mirror sites be removed.

--
Nick B.

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Why moderator approval. I have writing an essay to join a group..



Frank M. Howell wrote:
Nick:

There is a new Yahoo group for SWLOG Users to facilitate their
discussions about the software program. Bob may have pulled the old
group and his software from his website but there is a need to exchange
info about the program. Go to SWLOG Users on the Yahoo Group page
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swlog_users/) and join.

Frank

Nick B. wrote:
wrote:
I know that Bob sometimes reads the postings in this group. I can
understand his decision to withdraw the program, shut down the Website
and close the Yahoo support group. The grumbling in the Yahoo group
was getting out of control and even though he kept releasing new
maintenance versions and trying to help folks with problems, the
whining continued.

In hindsight it might have helped if some kind of moderation were
introduced. The main shortwave.com website has been pulled but if you
look deep enough you will find the community feature is still there. So
are the online receivers if you check your remote radio client.

Bob, I want to thank you for a great program and adding the code to
support my Kenwood R-5000. I will continue using it until the external
database formats (HFCC, PTSW, Eibi etc.) change to the point that I
can't load them anymore. Wishing you good DX and hoping one day there
will be an announcement that SWLog is available once again.

I'll continue using it, I decided to not to be an "early adopter" of V5
so stuck with build 2411. Fortunately I still have a copy of the
installer, but I can't put it up on the web as Bob has requested that
all mirror sites be removed.

--
Nick B.

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My guess(es) would be 1)to discourage spammers & 2)to discourage boneheads,
which, given the reason for pulling this absolutely excellent software,
website & yahoo newsgroup that's been around since what, the 90's, I'd say
are damn good reasons to finally have a moderated group. Besides, have you
read the crap that gets posted to this NG? By far the majority of the
postings have absolutely nothing to do with SWL at all & are posted by
juvenile minded boneheads trying to create ripples so they feel important.

"NOYK" wrote in message
ups.com...
Why moderator approval. I have writing an essay to join a group..



Frank M. Howell wrote:
Nick:

There is a new Yahoo group for SWLOG Users to facilitate their
discussions about the software program. Bob may have pulled the old
group and his software from his website but there is a need to exchange
info about the program. Go to SWLOG Users on the Yahoo Group page
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swlog_users/) and join.

Frank

Nick B. wrote:
wrote:
I know that Bob sometimes reads the postings in this group. I can
understand his decision to withdraw the program, shut down the
Website
and close the Yahoo support group. The grumbling in the Yahoo group
was getting out of control and even though he kept releasing new
maintenance versions and trying to help folks with problems, the
whining continued.

In hindsight it might have helped if some kind of moderation were
introduced. The main shortwave.com website has been pulled but if you
look deep enough you will find the community feature is still there.
So
are the online receivers if you check your remote radio client.

Bob, I want to thank you for a great program and adding the code to
support my Kenwood R-5000. I will continue using it until the
external
database formats (HFCC, PTSW, Eibi etc.) change to the point that I
can't load them anymore. Wishing you good DX and hoping one day
there
will be an announcement that SWLog is available once again.

I'll continue using it, I decided to not to be an "early adopter" of
V5
so stuck with build 2411. Fortunately I still have a copy of the
installer, but I can't put it up on the web as Bob has requested that
all mirror sites be removed.

--
Nick B.

Shortwave Log is no more
 

Frank M. Howell wrote:
Nick:

There is a new Yahoo group for SWLOG Users to facilitate their
discussions about the software program. Bob may have pulled the old
group and his software from his website but there is a need to exchange
info about the program. Go to SWLOG Users on the Yahoo Group page
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swlog_users/) and join.

Frank

Frank,

I suggest that you start a new thread in rec.radio.shortwave about this
new Yahoo users group. You will get a lot more visibility and signups.

Roger

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Frank M. Howell wrote:

There is a new Yahoo group for SWLOG Users to facilitate their
discussions about the software program. Bob may have pulled the old
group and his software from his website but there is a need to exchange
info about the program. Go to SWLOG Users on the Yahoo Group page
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swlog_users/) and join.

Thanks for the tip, I've submitted my application. Worth mentioning in a
few other places as there are quite a few users out there!

--
Nick B.

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Bob Sillett and I always had a good relationship, I made donations
every year to him for SWLog. This time, he was gone so quickly that I
didnt even have time to say goodbye.

Bob, take that last donation I made to you and go get a nice dinner
and drink on me....thanks for a great program!


On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:46:27 GMT, Jim Douglas
wrote:

wrote:
Looks like Mr. Sillett has given up on his Shortwave Log program. His
final post to his Yahoo group was that he couldn't reproduce the
problems people were having with V5 and that he didn't appreciate the
tone of some of the comments he was getting. The next day, the Yahoo
group was gone.

Too bad.

The reason seems to be a bunch of non-computer users who were having
problems and constantly bitching about them. I think he said screw it
after all he had worked for years on that program and didn't like the
tone of new users. I posted an email indicating that I would assist in
troubleshooting but never got a reply. Bob if you are reading this
thanks for the program and all the work you have done! Great job!

Jim Douglas

Shortwave Log is no more
 

Sysyphus' Sister wrote:
Bob Sillett and I always had a good relationship, I made donations
every year to him for SWLog. This time, he was gone so quickly that I
didnt even have time to say goodbye.

Bob, take that last donation I made to you and go get a nice dinner
and drink on me....thanks for a great program!


On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:46:27 GMT, Jim Douglas
wrote:

wrote:
Looks like Mr. Sillett has given up on his Shortwave Log program. His
final post to his Yahoo group was that he couldn't reproduce the
problems people were having with V5 and that he didn't appreciate the
tone of some of the comments he was getting. The next day, the Yahoo
group was gone.

Too bad.

The reason seems to be a bunch of non-computer users who were having
problems and constantly bitching about them. I think he said screw it
after all he had worked for years on that program and didn't like the
tone of new users. I posted an email indicating that I would assist in
troubleshooting but never got a reply. Bob if you are reading this
thanks for the program and all the work you have done! Great job!

Jim Douglas

Sad to hear that. Bob has a right to be irrigated at all our kvetching.
I was one of them. but I went back to version three and I am happy as a
hog in slop and I said that on the list

Too many of us aren't GEEKS and have no patience with a computer's
innate idiosyncrasies (and I admit user-setup errors)and I think Bob
shouldnt feel overwhelmed at being unable to get into each of our heads
trying to solve problems

I think my problem is centered around certain MSC services not being IN
my computer making me unable to use some of the advanced software needed
to make version 5 work

I gave up and I guess Bob did too. I have been seeking a job for 3
months and I am over stressed. Bob had undergone a professional dry
spell that was satisfactorily resolved as well. I got a job. Maybe we
ALL need a break. . Perhaps that is a start over

Yodar