A few people have suggested the Wellborn 1530, but it looks a bit
cumbersome. I have 2 other options with a wire antenna. Check out the
diagrams I made and let me know if any of these are feasible and if so,
what my best bet would be for this type of application. I sincerely
appreciate all feedback. The 1530 is definitely still an option that is
available to me still... would it still be better than one of the below
setups?

Diagram 1:
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1...ngwire17ex.png

Diagram 2:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5...ngwire25hd.png

Chad

In article . com,
"chad556" wrote:

A few people have suggested the Wellborn 1530, but it looks a bit
cumbersome. I have 2 other options with a wire antenna. Check out the
diagrams I made and let me know if any of these are feasible and if so,
what my best bet would be for this type of application. I sincerely
appreciate all feedback. The 1530 is definitely still an option that is
available to me still... would it still be better than one of the below
setups?

Diagram 1:
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1...ngwire17ex.png

Diagram 2:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5...ngwire25hd.png

The 100 foot would be "better" from the more antenna standpoint but it
could pick up noise from all your neighbors on the top floor so the
shorter one on one end of the building may work better for you. There
are to many variables in a situation like this to know for sure which
will work better so you will just have try them.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

chad556 wrote:
A few people have suggested the Wellborn 1530, but it looks a bit
cumbersome. I have 2 other options with a wire antenna. Check out the
diagrams I made and let me know if any of these are feasible and if so,
what my best bet would be for this type of application. I sincerely
appreciate all feedback. The 1530 is definitely still an option that is
available to me still... would it still be better than one of the below
setups?

Diagram 1:
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1...ngwire17ex.png

Diagram 2:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5...ngwire25hd.png

Chad


Chad,

If those are the two options and you can't go out from the building
then I would go for the 100ft along the ridge depending on how that
relates to your mountains. In the main you will be picking up
signals broadside to the wire and not off the ends. Which ever you
go for your main problem will be electrical noise and harmonic hash
from the equipment in the building (TV, computers, modems, etc.), if
it has a metal roof all the better!

Get or make a decent ATU - cheap on eBay - and get the wire as high
above the ridge as you can. Use a balun designed for a wire antenna
and feed from one end with co-ax Create a decent RF ground. (There's
plenty of info around if you use Google.)

I live in a first floor flat in the south of England and using a
wire antenna and ATU I have heard amateur stations from Central & N.
America, Australia, N Africa, Asiatic Russia & Mauritius in recent
months.


Charlie

--
www.wymsey.co.uk

chad556 wrote:
My main interests are same as yours... utility, maritime, aeronautical
HF, and pirate. There is an AM radio station 3 miles away. On their
site it says it transmits 5,000 watts on 930 khz, but I see no towers
at the radio station. I also live a few miles from some microwave
towers, and (assuming) cell phone, VHF/UHF TV towers. I am not very
technically savy, and would prefer to buy an antenna that is already
built. I can assemble it fine and put it up. IN am however very good
with diagrams. Size is not much of an issue as long as its not a tower
or 10 foot or higher vertical antenna. I'm the manager of the apartment
community I live in, so I can bend the rules a bit in terms of roof
installation antennae. I'm hearing rave reviews and numerous
suggestions about the Wellbrook ALA-1530, but the cost is a big
downfall.

I tried to post this earlier but google ate it.

I had a chance to test a ALA-1530 for over a month.
I was very unimpressed.

The WL1030 worked at least as well and can be built for
much less green stuff. www.wl1030.com The only hard
part to find is the Litz wire. And in truth I couldn't tell
any difference between solid, stranded and litz wire
in this application.

I am not a fan of loops and continue to be impressed by
the loyalty of true believers.

If, as the manager, you could cheat a bit more, there is a 15'
relay switched antenna that works very well.
http://www.kongsfjord.no/ Look in "The Dallas Files";
"LW-MW-SW Relay Tuned 15' Noise Reducing Vertical Antenna",
It does require at least a 4' ground rod 6 to 8 work much better.
While I have always been a fan of coax feedlines, I have to admit
that for this antenna balanced feedline, either Radio Shack speaker
wire or AC zip cord, worked slightly better then coax.

Other good antennas could be any of Dallas Lankford's active
antennas. The new comp pair is very very good but rather
difficult to setup.

The next best is "Some of My Favorite Small Antennas for MW and LW",
set up is straight forward, but the Crystalonics FET is pricey.

The much less expensive antenna in "Low Noise Active Antenna AC/DC
Power
Supplies" is a very good active antenna. When configured as a active
dipole
it is a very good performer and only usuitable (IMHO) in very strong MW
signal locations.

To the best of me knowledge there are no commercial versions of
any if these antennas.

A friend built the 15' relay switched and used very inexpensive radio
shack
12V relays that he sealed with GE "silicon seal".

And if none of these look interesting be inventive. Do you have a wood
fence?
Run wire that blends in as high on the fence as possible.

Do you have access to the attic, if there is one, you might try to run
wire
along the peak, or form a quasi dipole.

Are there "tall" trees close to the building? If so then run some wire
up the side of the tree. Works best where there aren't kids, they tend
to find and pull stray wire off.

Terry

chad556 wrote:
A few people have suggested the Wellborn 1530, but it looks a bit
cumbersome. I have 2 other options with a wire antenna. Check out the
diagrams I made and let me know if any of these are feasible and if so,
what my best bet would be for this type of application. I sincerely
appreciate all feedback. The 1530 is definitely still an option that is
available to me still... would it still be better than one of the below
setups?

Diagram 1:
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1...ngwire17ex.png

Diagram 2:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5...ngwire25hd.png

Chad


Put this up there on your roof as diagram 1 suggets (Cost $35

http://www.bwantennas.com/ama/specials.ama.htm

yodar

= = = On Jan 21, 8:14Â*pm, "chad556" wrote:
A few people have suggested the Wellborn 1530, but it looks a bit
cumbersome. I have 2 other options with a wire antenna. Check out the
diagrams I made and let me know if any of these are feasible and if so,
what my best bet would be for this type of application. I sincerely
appreciate all feedback. The 1530 is definitely still an option that is
available to me still... would it still be better than one of the below
setups?

- Diagram 1:http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1...ngwire17ex.png
-
- Diagram 2:http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5...ngwire25hd.png
-
- Chad
-

Chad,

Question - Rigging the Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna
On-or-Under 'The Roof' - When Par may be the Answer !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw.../message/12080

IMHO - Better a simple Horizontal [Flat] Loop Antenna
that is Rigged around the perimeter of 'The Roof' :
* More Wire-in-the-Air
* Larger signal capture area
* Lower Noise
* More Omni-Directional signal pick-up

Consider putting your Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna
Up-There On-the-Roof for Everyone-to-See
READ - The Shortwave Listener's (SWL) "Random" Horizontal [Flat] Loop
Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...73213a11be0b83


Consider putting your Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna
Under-the-Roof {In-the-Attic} and Out-of-Sight !
READ - The In-the-Attic Horizontal [Flat] Loop Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f4e10e7df8249c

Just may be the better choice to fill the available space.

One-More-Option might be . . .
READ - Consider the In-the-Attic Shortwave Listeners (SWL) Loop Antenna

-over- Snake-in-the-Attic type of Shortwave Listeners (SWL) Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...b5d43ef142d0e8


Then again for about $100 you could have a very acceptable
and good performing Shortwave Listeners (SWL) Antenna.
READ - About using the Par Electronics End-Fed Shortwave
Listener EF-SWL Antenna : In-the-Attic ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f41e85486b0ed9

Reveals - The Three "Must" Links to Read -wrt- Low Noise SWL Antenna

when it comes to antennas - i am wired - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
..
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
GoTo = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
The SWL Antenna Discussion Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna HELP = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna NEWS = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna INFO = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
* * * All Are Welcome : Including ELMERS and 'Want-to-be-Elmers'
plus plain old "Mister-Know-It-Alls"; and even those Newbees with
"I Know This Is A Really Dumb Question - But _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "
.
The Shortwave Listener's Blessing :
SWL BLESSING = http://tinyurl.com/s2bjm
May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always
have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid}
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/9233
.
Tous Sont Bienvenus ! - - - Groupe par Radio
d'auditeur d'onde courte pour des Antennes de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Alle Sind Willkommen ! - - - Shortwave Radiozuhörer
Gruppe für SWL Antennen
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Tutti Sono Benvenuti ! - - - Gruppo Radiofonico
dell'ascoltatore di onda corta per le Antenne di SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Todos São Bem-vindos ! - - - Grupo de Rádio
do ouvinte do Shortwave para Antenas de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Ð’Ñ�е Ð*адушны ! - - - Группа оператора
на приеме коротковолнового диапазона
Radio дл� Aнтенн SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
¡Todos Son Agradables! - - - Grupo de Radio del oyente
de la onda corta para las Antenas de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
= = = = Plain Old American-English Translation = = = =
All are Welcome - - - To Join the Shortwave Listeners
(SWL) Antenna Group on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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