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"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
On Mar 4, 6:23�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 4, 5:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: You have no idea, who I talked with Nobody in management is in on a Sunday morning. That is about the lowest rung on the radio ladder. - he said, over 50 years, not just 50. He knew, what he was talking about. Compared to you, Clarabelle the Cow knows more about radio. At-any-rate, you let me know, when all the US and Canadian AMs go dark, because I will only be out of a hobby, and you will be out of a job, if you are even employed by Univision. I won´t be out of a job. AM is a tiny part of our mainland business, and has no relevence to my emplyment. AM is decreasing in audience share every year, and it is mostly made up of over-55 listeners no advertiser wants. It is dying. *Broadcast radio has not grown in six years and HD/IBOC is a joke and will not save radio. FM has grown every year in revenue and the sector I am in has been up an average of over 6% a year for over a decade. Consumers have no interest in radio, especially HD. Even your own peers, laugh at the mention of HD - you are a joke, and HD is a joke. The Internet is making broadcast radio obsolete, including yourself. The RIAA killed the internet as a source of music streaming last week. Even companies like Pandora will lose twice as much on every user as they can make in advertising at web-standard CPMs... HD is ahead of schedule on models, price points and usefulness. Everyone in management and programming I have talked to is happy with it. They can broadcast all they want in HD, and make all the HD radios they want, but consumers are not interested: "Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" "Finally, note the traffic for HDRadio.com which, although not a destination on the order of Sirius or XM, is the go-to site for further information about HD in many HD radio ads and promotions and is, thus, a good metric to gauge consumer interest. To the degree that these estimates are correct (Alexa isn't perfect) and to the degree that web traffic is a proxy for consumer interest, it looks like a long and slow race to the bottom. While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD shows no signs of a pulse." http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_xm_and_h.html Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in their coverage, but that is no given: "McDowell: Broadcasters Will Likely Be Pleased by FCC Action on FM Translators for AM Stations - But One AM Doesn't Wait" "At yesterday's NAB Leadership Conference in Washington, FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell stated that he thought that broadcasters would be pleased with the outcome of the Commission's action on the NAB proposal to allow AM stations to use FM translators to fill in holes in their coverage, or to provide nighttime coverage for daytime stations... While it is good news that the FCC seems to be moving on the NAB proposal, broadcasters should not think that relief for all AM stations is coming soon. Instead, the FCC will simply release a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, opening a formal comment window in which parties can state their support for the proposal. There may be others who oppose the proposal - particularly the supporters of Low Power FM stations. Given that the FCC already has an open proceeding dealing with the relationship between FM translators and LPFM stations, the proposal to give AM operators FM translators will have to be linked in some way to this other proceeding. And, were the FCC to decide that LPFM stations have a priority over FM translators, any victory for AM stations might be hollow, as LPFM stations could preclude the operation of many FM translators." http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/arch...esnt-wait.html Once again, you are a proven lier ! |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
On Mar 4, 6:23�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 4, 5:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: You have no idea, who I talked with Nobody in management is in on a Sunday morning. That is about the lowest rung on the radio ladder. - he said, over 50 years, not just 50. He knew, what he was talking about. Compared to you, Clarabelle the Cow knows more about radio. At-any-rate, you let me know, when all the US and Canadian AMs go dark, because I will only be out of a hobby, and you will be out of a job, if you are even employed by Univision. I won´t be out of a job. AM is a tiny part of our mainland business, and has no relevence to my emplyment. AM is decreasing in audience share every year, and it is mostly made up of over-55 listeners no advertiser wants. It is dying. *Broadcast radio has not grown in six years and HD/IBOC is a joke and will not save radio. FM has grown every year in revenue and the sector I am in has been up an average of over 6% a year for over a decade. Consumers have no interest in radio, especially HD. Even your own peers, laugh at the mention of HD - you are a joke, and HD is a joke. The Internet is making broadcast radio obsolete, including yourself. The RIAA killed the internet as a source of music streaming last week. Even companies like Pandora will lose twice as much on every user as they can make in advertising at web-standard CPMs... HD is ahead of schedule on models, price points and usefulness. Everyone in management and programming I have talked to is happy with it. HD Radio is on the RIAA's target list, too - if they got to Internet Radio, they will get to HD Radio, too ! |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
surfwatch wrote: On Mar 4, 12:05 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... No chasing required, they will come to your door, asking to mow your lawn, fertilize your garden or to ask your pre-pubescent daughter out for the night, It is then my patriotic friend, you must reach in the closet, place your hands upon the weapon, and blow the cock sucking, bean blower back into Mary's arms.... Stupid racist. Stupid little pussy faggot! I'm sorry, I should have said "racist bigot." But, then again, you have just said it for me. Sorry, I'm not a racist like you, Edweenie... I ain't white, but unlike you, I dislike no one... except for prancing poseurs... like you, boy. Get it, retard? Oh you're white all right. The amount of Miami Indian in you is so miniscule. Do your homework and stop stretching the truth. I have, and it's enough so that I'm not white.. I'm of mixed race, and damn proud of it! dxAce Michigan USA |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
On Mar 4, 6:23�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 4, 5:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: You have no idea, who I talked with Nobody in management is in on a Sunday morning. That is about the lowest rung on the radio ladder. - he said, over 50 years, not just 50. He knew, what he was talking about. Compared to you, Clarabelle the Cow knows more about radio. At-any-rate, you let me know, when all the US and Canadian AMs go dark, because I will only be out of a hobby, and you will be out of a job, if you are even employed by Univision. I won´t be out of a job. AM is a tiny part of our mainland business, and has no relevence to my emplyment. AM is decreasing in audience share every year, and it is mostly made up of over-55 listeners no advertiser wants. It is dying. *Broadcast radio has not grown in six years and HD/IBOC is a joke and will not save radio. FM has grown every year in revenue and the sector I am in has been up an average of over 6% a year for over a decade. Consumers have no interest in radio, especially HD. Even your own peers, laugh at the mention of HD - you are a joke, and HD is a joke. The Internet is making broadcast radio obsolete, including yourself. The RIAA killed the internet as a source of music streaming last week. Even companies like Pandora will lose twice as much on every user as they can make in advertising at web-standard CPMs... HD is ahead of schedule on models, price points and usefulness. Everyone in management and programming I have talked to is happy with it. "More on the Copyright Royalty Board Decision on Internet Radio Music Royalties" "There are many other issues that will arise once the decision is released and reviewed by the public. But this decision is sure to have impact far beyond the streaming world. In the recently proposed XM/Sirius merger, about which we wrote here, the satellite radio services were arguing that competition from Internet Radio lessened any anticompetitive threat from the anticipated combination of the companies. Similarly, broadcasters have argued that webcasters provided competition that justified a relaxation of the multiple ownership rules. If many Internet radio stations disappear after this decision, these two proceedings may well be affected. Also, if the Internet does not provide an outlet for new broadcast entrants, will there be a greater clamor for more Low Power FM stations? These issues and other ramifications of the decision are sure to follow." http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/arch...royalties.html Either way, you are screwed - digital HD Radio will be next, but it will fail, anyway. |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 6:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in their coverage, but that is no given: Nobody said AM was being dropped. But the only viable format on AM, news talk, is being moved from AM where it gets no salable audience, to FM, where it does. Once this happens, AM will have no magnet for listening in any age, and will die. |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 6:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: HD Radio is on the RIAA's target list, too - if they got to Internet Radio, they will get to HD Radio, too ! Yeah, but radio can observe the DRM legislation via hardware which streaming is much harder pressed to do... plus radio is profitable, and can afford the rights, while internet broadcasters can not. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... Edweenie is getting closer to retirement, then he'll be collecting that 'entitlement' too! I have about 10 years to go, so don't count the days. And radio is notorious for having no pensions... you save and invest or you are screwed. |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Edweenie is getting closer to retirement, then he'll be collecting that 'entitlement' too! I have about 10 years to go, so don't count the days. Well heck, you'll be 70 then. Retire, enjoy yourself! And radio is notorious for having no pensions... you save and invest or you are screwed. Well, I have my pension from my previous employment, and I saved and invested. It could be much worse. dxAce Michigan USA |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
On Mar 4, 7:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 6:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in their coverage, but that is no given: Nobody said AM was being dropped. But the only viable format on AM, news talk, is being moved from AM where it gets no salable audience, to FM, where it does. Once this happens, AM will have no magnet for listening in any age, and will die. Funny, KSL news/talk/sports is not dropping AM, plus as we saw, FM is over-allocated and tied up in the FCC, for quite some time. AM is not moving news/talk/sport to FM, just simulcasting, if that is even approved - too many listeners would be lost. |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
On Mar 4, 7:27?pm, dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Edweenie is getting closer to retirement, then he'll be collecting that 'entitlement' too! I have about 10 years to go, so don't count the days. Well heck, you'll be 70 then. Retire, enjoy yourself! And radio is notorious for having no pensions... you save and invest or you are screwed. Well, I have my pension from my previous employment, and I saved and invested. It could be much worse. dxAce Michigan USA The fat-ass will be dead, at 70. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: I have about 10 years to go, so don't count the days. Well heck, you'll be 70 then. I enjoy what I am doing. You obviously don't. Retire, enjoy yourself! And radio is notorious for having no pensions... you save and invest or you are screwed. Well, I have my pension from my previous employment, and I saved and invested. It could be much worse. Yeah, you could have not been a racist bigot. |
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I know her webtv address is active because when I email her webtv
address,I don't get a bounce back. cuhulin |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 7:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 6:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in their coverage, but that is no given: Nobody said AM was being dropped. But the only viable format on AM, news talk, is being moved from AM where it gets no salable audience, to FM, where it does. Once this happens, AM will have no magnet for listening in any age, and will die. Funny, KSL news/talk/sports is not dropping AM, plus as we saw, FM is over-allocated and tied up in the FCC, for quite some time. AM is not moving news/talk/sport to FM, just simulcasting, if that is even approved - too many listeners would be lost. You just don't get it. KSL is already on KSL-FM, in a simulcast, in preparation for an eventual total move of the format to FM when the demos on AM can no longer produce sales. Just as the same owner ALREADY did in Phoenix and Washington, DC., and is preparing to do in Seattle. WTOP, 50,000 watts in DC ceased its news and talk format on AM and took it to FM. The AM became specialty programming with no ratings. KTAR in Phoenix moved its n/t format to FM, and put sports on the old AM channel. KIRO, 50 kw in Seattle, is going to move to FM. Clear Channel in Pittsburgh and New Orleans has beaten KDKA and WWL with new FM news/talk stations in ratings and billing in 25-54. News/talkers in Orlando, Akron, Jersey, etc., on FM are winning. Stations owned by Cox and Clear in Jacksonville, Dayton, Tallahassee and several others are moving or have moved totally to FM only. These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos. |
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I am Scotch Irish by Ancestry.Double whammy on me.
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Some kind of old s..t kicker movie is on Radio tb now.I am too drunk to
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A woman took her five year old boy along to the bank with her.There was
a big fat woman standing in line in front of them.The kid said,Gee,she is fat! Two minutes later he spread his arms wide open,said,I bet her butt is this wide! A few minutes later,the fat woman's pager started beeping,,, BEEP BEEP BEEP,Run! She is backing up! cuhulin |
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On Mar 4, 9:05�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 7:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Mar 4, 6:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in their coverage, but that is no given: Nobody said AM was being dropped. But the only viable format on AM, news talk, is being moved from AM where it gets no salable audience, to FM, where it does. Once this happens, AM will have no magnet for listening in any age, and will die. Funny, KSL news/talk/sports is not dropping AM, plus as we saw, FM is over-allocated and tied up in the FCC, for quite some time. *AM is not moving news/talk/sport to FM, *just simulcasting, if that is even approved - too many listeners would be lost. You just don't get it. KSL is already on KSL-FM, in a simulcast, in preparation for an eventual total move of the format to FM when the demos on AM can no longer produce sales. Just as the same owner ALREADY did in Phoenix and Washington, DC., and is preparing to do in Seattle. WTOP, 50,000 watts in DC ceased its news and talk format on AM and took it to FM. The AM became specialty programming with no ratings. KTAR in Phoenix moved its n/t format to FM, and put sports on the old AM channel. KIRO, 50 kw in Seattle, is going to move to FM. Clear Channel in Pittsburgh and New Orleans has beaten KDKA and WWL with new FM news/talk stations in ratings and billing in 25-54. News/talkers in Orlando, Akron, Jersey, etc., on FM are winning. Stations owned by Cox and Clear in Jacksonville, Dayton, Tallahassee and several others are moving or have moved totally to FM only. These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - As I stated, KSL is NOT turning off its AM, just simulcasting on FM. WTOP will still broadcast on AM. There are hundreds of 50KW AM stations: http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html To your shagrin, I will be able to DX many of these for many years from Maryland, long after you are dead. I don't have to listen to news/ talk/sports, as long as, there is AM to DX. When, Coast-To-Coast-AM , the "Truckers Network", WWL, WLW, WHO, WCCO, WSB, WABC, WSM, WGN, WBBM, WOR, WJR, CHWO, WHAS, WGY, CJBC, WHAS, WLS, CKLW, WTAM, WBT, KMOX, WHAM and others all disappear off AM, I'll let you know. |
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On Mar 4, 9:05�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 7:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Mar 4, 6:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in their coverage, but that is no given: Nobody said AM was being dropped. But the only viable format on AM, news talk, is being moved from AM where it gets no salable audience, to FM, where it does. Once this happens, AM will have no magnet for listening in any age, and will die. Funny, KSL news/talk/sports is not dropping AM, plus as we saw, FM is over-allocated and tied up in the FCC, for quite some time. *AM is not moving news/talk/sport to FM, *just simulcasting, if that is even approved - too many listeners would be lost. You just don't get it. KSL is already on KSL-FM, in a simulcast, in preparation for an eventual total move of the format to FM when the demos on AM can no longer produce sales. Just as the same owner ALREADY did in Phoenix and Washington, DC., and is preparing to do in Seattle. WTOP, 50,000 watts in DC ceased its news and talk format on AM and took it to FM. The AM became specialty programming with no ratings. KTAR in Phoenix moved its n/t format to FM, and put sports on the old AM channel. KIRO, 50 kw in Seattle, is going to move to FM. Clear Channel in Pittsburgh and New Orleans has beaten KDKA and WWL with new FM news/talk stations in ratings and billing in 25-54. News/talkers in Orlando, Akron, Jersey, etc., on FM are winning. Stations owned by Cox and Clear in Jacksonville, Dayton, Tallahassee and several others are moving or have moved totally to FM only. These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, you just don't get it - the FM band is over-allocated, so there is just only so much room for new FMs - this is already tied up in the FCC. There will always be a use for AM, and since HD/IBOC has no consumer interest, and little interest on AM from stations owners, there will always be something to DX. |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 4, 9:05?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: As I stated, KSL is NOT turning off its AM, just simulcasting on FM. WTOP will still broadcast on AM. There are hundreds of 50KW AM stations: WTOP moved, format and calls, to FM 100%. The old 1500 frequency is being used fror a very niche in-depth news and commentary format in conjunction with the Washington Post. It gets less than a 1 share, with the calls WTWP while the FM, WTOP, gets nearly a 6 share and is in the top 3 stations in DC. KSL is sumulcasting now, in poreparation for eventually having the news talk format 100% on FM. Bonneville is very clear in what they are doing. They moved the news talk format in DC from AM to FM, and they did the same in Phoenix after a period of simulcating to get the listeners to understand the change. WTOP AM is no more... it is now WTWP, with a new, low rated niche format. They did not turn it off, but they sure took the good format to FM. Same in Phoenix. And soon in Seattle and Portland. Many of the 50 kw AMs you mention, such as KBLA in LA, have near the poorest coverage in their markets. There are plenty of 5 kw low-band stations like KOGO or KFYI or WDBO or WFLA or WIOD or WMT or WNAX or KLIF or KTSA or WCHS or WIP or KSFO and so on that have coverage that is enormously better than half the US 50 kw stations you list. Having 50 kw is meaningless unless you know the dial position and directionality. 1 kw on 540 is about the same as 50 kw on 1600 in coverage from the same location. But the worst enemy of most AMs is directionality. The LA and Pnoenix (Tempe) 50 kw stations on 1580 are totally useless signals, with limited coverage and extreme directionality. Your list fails to recognize that what matters on AM is local, groundwave coverage of the local metro as defined by the ratings company. Stations on AM that do not do this can not compete. There are less than 200 stations on AM in the top 100 markets that fully cover their market with day and night groundwave. To your shagrin (sic), I will be able to DX many of these for many years Afrom Maryland, long after you are dead. So what? That does not mean they are profitable or successful locally. Skywave, in 2007, is meaningless. I don't have to listen to news/ talk/sports, as long as, there is AM to DX. When, Coast-To-Coast-AM , the "Truckers Network", WWL, WLW, WHO, WCCO, WSB, WABC, WSM, WGN, WBBM, WOR, WJR, CHWO, WHAS, WGY, CJBC, WHAS, WLS, CKLW, WTAM, WBT, KMOX, WHAM and others all disappear off AM, I'll let you know. WGN was the principal cause why the Tribune is trying to sell its broadcast business. The revenue losses inthe las years due to the old-fart audience on AM have forced the entire company to go into a panich. WWL has an new FM competitor that is cleaning its clock. WSM is not a news talk station, nor is WBBM. WBT does not cover the western half of its market at night, and is rumored to be looking at going to FM. The truckers thing gets most of its listening from satellite, anyway. Finally, probably less than 10% of radio's billings are from ads in the 7 PM to 5 AM period of darkness.... so, except for you, just about nobody cares anyway.- |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 9:05?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, you just don't get it - the FM band is over-allocated, so there is just only so much room for new FMs - this is already tied up in the FCC. There will always be a use for AM, and since HD/IBOC has no consumer interest, and little interest on AM from stations owners, there will always be something to DX. I have told you multiple times that no new FMs are being created. In Phoenix, Bonnevile bought an FM from Emmis, and moved the AM n/t format to it. In DC, they killed classical on an FM they already owned and moved n/t to that station. In Seattle, they just bought multiple FM stations and one will get the AM KIRO format. In Salt Lake, they took a lower-rated FM they owned and started the transition to FM by simulcasting KSL for a while. Cox took existing AMs they owned in Jacksonville and Dayton and is simulcasting n/t and will eventually have the format on FM only. Clear Channel took two FMs, one each in Pittsburgh and New Orleans, and did new n/t formats on them... killing KDKA and WWL in the sales demos. In other words, operators are moving the format from AM to FM, from existing AM facilities, to existing FM ones, because only on FM can n/t survive. Expect to see more and morde of this over the next five years as AM audiences age even more and the spots become unsalable due to old demographics. The WTOP experience has proven that the same format, moved from AM to FM, will get much younger and salable audiences... yet in another post you say that WTOP is still on AM, despite the calls and format having moved 14 months ago to FM!!!! Read up a little on this. Your facts are worng, and you do not understand how easy it is to move a format from an AM to and FM.... many operators could do it on a few hours' notice! |
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On Mar 4, 3:54 pm, dxAce wrote:
surfwatch wrote: On Mar 4, 12:05 wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... No chasing required, they will come to your door, asking to mow your lawn, fertilize your garden or to ask your pre-pubescent daughter out for the night, It is then my patriotic friend, you must reach in the closet, place your hands upon the weapon, and blow the cock sucking, bean blower back into Mary's arms.... Stupid racist. Stupid little pussy faggot! I'm sorry, I should have said "racist bigot." But, then again, you have just said it for me. Sorry, I'm not a racist like you, Edweenie... I ain't white, but unlike you, I dislike no one... except for prancing poseurs... like you, boy. Get it, retard? Oh you're white all right. The amount of Miami Indian in you is so miniscule. Do your homework and stop stretching the truth. I have, and it's enough so that I'm not white.. I'm of mixed race, and damn proud of it! dxAce Michigan USA Sorry buddy, You're not "mix race." So tell me who in your family in non-white? |
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Brenda Ann wrote:
I have an idea... if the big boys don't seem to think AM is viable, why not give it back to the little local guys who CAN make it work? AM is still very viable. It's the likes of Clear Channel et. al. that are killing it by loading it down with the same **** all across the dial. Who the hell wants cookie cutter radio? Exactly! JS -- http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com |
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On Mar 4, 11:22�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 9:05?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, you just don't get it - the FM band is over-allocated, so there is just only so much room for new FMs - this is already tied up in the FCC. *There will always be a use for AM, and since HD/IBOC has no consumer interest, and little interest on AM from stations owners, there will always be something to DX. I have told you multiple times that no new FMs are being created. In Phoenix, Bonnevile bought an FM from Emmis, and moved the AM n/t format to it. In DC, they killed classical on an FM they already owned and moved n/t to that station. In Seattle, they just bought multiple FM stations and one will get the AM KIRO format. In Salt Lake, they took a lower-rated FM they owned and started the transition to FM by simulcasting KSL for a while. Cox took existing AMs they owned in Jacksonville and Dayton and is simulcasting n/t and will eventually have the format on FM only. Clear Channel took two FMs, one each in Pittsburgh and New Orleans, and did new n/t formats on them... killing KDKA and WWL in the sales demos. In other words, operators are moving the format from AM to FM, from existing AM facilities, to existing FM ones, because only on FM can n/t survive. Expect to see more and morde of this over the next five years as AM audiences age even more and the spots become unsalable due to old demographics. The WTOP experience has proven that the same format, moved from AM to FM, will get much younger and salable audiences... yet in another post you say that WTOP is still on AM, despite the calls and format having moved 14 months ago to FM!!!! Read up a little on this. Your facts are worng, and you do not understand how easy it is to move a format from an AM to and FM.... many operators could do it on a few hours' notice! When all of the US and Canadian AMs go dark, I will let you know. |
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On Mar 4, 11:22�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 9:05?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, you just don't get it - the FM band is over-allocated, so there is just only so much room for new FMs - this is already tied up in the FCC. *There will always be a use for AM, and since HD/IBOC has no consumer interest, and little interest on AM from stations owners, there will always be something to DX. I have told you multiple times that no new FMs are being created. In Phoenix, Bonnevile bought an FM from Emmis, and moved the AM n/t format to it. In DC, they killed classical on an FM they already owned and moved n/t to that station. In Seattle, they just bought multiple FM stations and one will get the AM KIRO format. In Salt Lake, they took a lower-rated FM they owned and started the transition to FM by simulcasting KSL for a while. Cox took existing AMs they owned in Jacksonville and Dayton and is simulcasting n/t and will eventually have the format on FM only. Clear Channel took two FMs, one each in Pittsburgh and New Orleans, and did new n/t formats on them... killing KDKA and WWL in the sales demos. In other words, operators are moving the format from AM to FM, from existing AM facilities, to existing FM ones, because only on FM can n/t survive. Expect to see more and morde of this over the next five years as AM audiences age even more and the spots become unsalable due to old demographics. The WTOP experience has proven that the same format, moved from AM to FM, will get much younger and salable audiences... yet in another post you say that WTOP is still on AM, despite the calls and format having moved 14 months ago to FM!!!! Read up a little on this. Your facts are worng, and you do not understand how easy it is to move a format from an AM to and FM.... many operators could do it on a few hours' notice! My favorite, WLW AM is ranked #1: "Radio Ratings Are In" "WLW-AM again was No. 1 for all listeners (ages 12 and older), as it has been since January 2000. It also was No. 1 in the 25-54 demo that advertisers want." http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs...ngs-are-in.asp |
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"David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 4, 9:05?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: As I stated, KSL is NOT turning off its AM, just simulcasting on FM. WTOP will still broadcast on AM. There are hundreds of 50KW AM stations: WTOP moved, format and calls, to FM 100%. The old 1500 frequency is being used fror a very niche in-depth news and commentary format in conjunction with the Washington Post. It gets less than a 1 share, with the calls WTWP while the FM, WTOP, gets nearly a 6 share and is in the top 3 stations in DC. KSL is sumulcasting now, in poreparation for eventually having the news talk format 100% on FM. Bonneville is very clear in what they are doing. They moved the news talk format in DC from AM to FM, and they did the same in Phoenix after a period of simulcating to get the listeners to understand the change. WTOP AM is no more... it is now WTWP, with a new, low rated niche format. They did not turn it off, but they sure took the good format to FM. Same in Phoenix. And soon in Seattle and Portland. Many of the 50 kw AMs you mention, such as KBLA in LA, have near the poorest coverage in their markets. There are plenty of 5 kw low-band stations like KOGO or KFYI or WDBO or WFLA or WIOD or WMT or WNAX or KLIF or KTSA or WCHS or WIP or KSFO and so on that have coverage that is enormously better than half the US 50 kw stations you list. Having 50 kw is meaningless unless you know the dial position and directionality. KFI is 50 KW but is temporally 25 KW on a backup antenna. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... am.html I have an idea... if the big boys don't seem to think AM is viable, why not give it back to the little local guys who CAN make it work? AM is still very viable. It's the likes of Clear Channel et. al. that are killing it by loading it down with the same **** all across the dial. Who the hell wants cookie cutter radio? Actually, when AM was called dead in the 80's, it was Clear Channel that invested in facilities and talent and gave the band further life... Since there are only, at most, one or two viable AMs in any market outside of a few majors, there can hardly be cookie cutter radio (unless you define syndicated talent as cookie cutter). The rest of AMs can only make money with religion, brokered shows or niche ethnic fare. |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 11:22?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 9:05?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, you just don't get it - the FM band is over-allocated, so there is just only so much room for new FMs - this is already tied up in the FCC. There will always be a use for AM, and since HD/IBOC has no consumer interest, and little interest on AM from stations owners, there will always be something to DX. I have told you multiple times that no new FMs are being created. In Phoenix, Bonnevile bought an FM from Emmis, and moved the AM n/t format to it. In DC, they killed classical on an FM they already owned and moved n/t to that station. In Seattle, they just bought multiple FM stations and one will get the AM KIRO format. In Salt Lake, they took a lower-rated FM they owned and started the transition to FM by simulcasting KSL for a while. Cox took existing AMs they owned in Jacksonville and Dayton and is simulcasting n/t and will eventually have the format on FM only. Clear Channel took two FMs, one each in Pittsburgh and New Orleans, and did new n/t formats on them... killing KDKA and WWL in the sales demos. In other words, operators are moving the format from AM to FM, from existing AM facilities, to existing FM ones, because only on FM can n/t survive. Expect to see more and morde of this over the next five years as AM audiences age even more and the spots become unsalable due to old demographics. The WTOP experience has proven that the same format, moved from AM to FM, will get much younger and salable audiences... yet in another post you say that WTOP is still on AM, despite the calls and format having moved 14 months ago to FM!!!! Read up a little on this. Your facts are worng, and you do not understand how easy it is to move a format from an AM to and FM.... many operators could do it on a few hours' notice! When all of the US and Canadian AMs go dark, I will let you know. Two-thirds of Canadian AMs already are dark or scheduled to go dark. Canada has a policy of getting AMs to move to FM and then shut down the AM side. More than half of the US's AMs are not profitable. There are nearly twice as many FMs as AMs now in the US. Among persons under 45, less than 10% of radio listening is to AM. At night, in the same age group, it is more like 5%. |
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"Brenda Ann" wrote: -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 4, 4:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 2:38?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... Shortwave is not only dead. It's buried! BwaHAHAHAHA!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't own a shortwave set anymore - I just AM DX, and that ain't dead ! No, AM is just in agony and about to die. AM talks/news/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well. That is about 30 stations out of 5000. And several have already begun their move to FM from AM, starting with KSL! - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 30 stations ? Try again: http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html I have an idea... if the big boys don't seem to think AM is viable, why not give it back to the little local guys who CAN make it work? AM is still very viable. It's the likes of Clear Channel et. al. that are killing it by loading it down with the same **** all across the dial. Who the hell wants cookie cutter radio? Hey, you go girl! -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 4, 11:22?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message Read up a little on this. Your facts are worng, and you do not understand how easy it is to move a format from an AM to and FM.... many operators could do it on a few hours' notice! My favorite, WLW AM is ranked #1: "Radio Ratings Are In" "WLW-AM again was No. 1 for all listeners (ages 12 and older), as it has been since January 2000. It also was No. 1 in the 25-54 demo that advertisers want." It is declining in 25-54, and when it gets an FM competitor, it will be as dead in that demo as KDKA in Pittsburg is. No advertiser uses 12+ ratings for ad buys... that is why those numbers are given away for free. Oh, tell me.... how far down the list in 25-54 do you have to go to find the next AM station? I'll tell you... it is after 13 FMs in a row! So, in that market, there is 1 AM in the top 10, 25-54, and one in the top 20. The next is at #20. AM is dead. |
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"surfwatch" wrote: On Mar 4, 3:54 pm, dxAce wrote: surfwatch wrote: On Mar 4, 12:05 wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... No chasing required, they will come to your door, asking to mow your lawn, fertilize your garden or to ask your pre-pubescent daughter out for the night, It is then my patriotic friend, you must reach in the closet, place your hands upon the weapon, and blow the cock sucking, bean blower back into Mary's arms.... Stupid racist. Stupid little pussy faggot! I'm sorry, I should have said "racist bigot." But, then again, you have just said it for me. Sorry, I'm not a racist like you, Edweenie... I ain't white, but unlike you, I dislike no one... except for prancing poseurs... like you, boy. Get it, retard? Oh you're white all right. The amount of Miami Indian in you is so miniscule. Do your homework and stop stretching the truth. I have, and it's enough so that I'm not white.. I'm of mixed race, and damn proud of it! dxAce Michigan USA Sorry buddy, You're not "mix race." So tell me who in your family in non-white? Get off the racial stuff. If you go back more than a few generations and you will find most people are of mixed race. We all came from Adam you know. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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... The rest of AMs can only make money with religion, brokered shows or niche ethnic fare. Rush and "rush wannabes" plague the dial. Religious programs line up like ducks across the bands. Sports stations "reliving" old plays fall in between the above mess. And, then there are the "financial guys" telling me how to invest the millions I don't have :( And, there is a least one lawyer giving out advice on how to sue someone, somewhere at sometime ... I think I hate rush the worst ... Kim Komando is a refreshing relief on the weekend and Art Bell is not bad when he has a credible guest (George Noory sucks with his witches/warlocks and vampires :( ) It is hard to find anything funny, worthwhile, really informative or entertaining. I swear, it has to be a plan, you just couldn't ruin something that badly unless you had a good plan on how to do it :( JS -- http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com |
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... David was on a roll and you had to go and spoil it. Actually I was saying the same thing all along... news/talk is a top format. Nearly all n/t stations are on Am, so nearly every market has one top rated (in the top 5 12+ and top 10 25-54). But as time moves on, the AM n/t audience is ageing because the under-55's do not listen to AM all that much. So the trend is to move the format to FM, where it does better. What we have is a major format on AM, not an attraction to the AM band. And the format is moving to FM, which will leave AM with nothing but tiny nice formats and religious broadcasters. |
"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... David was on a roll and you had to go and spoil it. Actually I was saying the same thing all along... news/talk is a top format. Nearly all n/t stations are on Am, so nearly every market has one top rated (in the top 5 12+ and top 10 25-54). But as time moves on, the AM n/t audience is ageing because the under-55's do not listen to AM all that much. So the trend is to move the format to FM, where it does better. What we have is a major format on AM, not an attraction to the AM band. And the format is moving to FM, which will leave AM with nothing but tiny nice formats and religious broadcasters. Michael Savage ... he is one of the few entertaining personalities left ... JS -- http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com |
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On Mar 4, 4:19 pm, wrote:
On Mar 4, 9:05?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 4, 7:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Mar 4, 6:23?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in their coverage, but that is no given: Nobody said AM was being dropped. But the only viable format on AM, news talk, is being moved from AM where it gets no salable audience, to FM, where it does. Once this happens, AM will have no magnet for listening in any age, and will die. Funny, KSL news/talk/sports is not dropping AM, plus as we saw, FM is over-allocated and tied up in the FCC, for quite some time. ?AM is not moving news/talk/sport to FM, ?just simulcasting, if that is even approved - too many listeners would be lost. You just don't get it. KSL is already on KSL-FM, in a simulcast, in preparation for an eventual total move of the format to FM when the demos on AM can no longer produce sales. Just as the same owner ALREADY did in Phoenix and Washington, DC., and is preparing to do in Seattle. WTOP, 50,000 watts in DC ceased its news and talk format on AM and took it to FM. The AM became specialty programming with no ratings. KTAR in Phoenix moved its n/t format to FM, and put sports on the old AM channel. KIRO, 50 kw in Seattle, is going to move to FM. Clear Channel in Pittsburgh and New Orleans has beaten KDKA and WWL with new FM news/talk stations in ratings and billing in 25-54. News/talkers in Orlando, Akron, Jersey, etc., on FM are winning. Stations owned by Cox and Clear in Jacksonville, Dayton, Tallahassee and several others are moving or have moved totally to FM only. These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual property to a band where such formats work in sales demos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - As I stated, KSL is NOT turning off its AM, just simulcasting on FM. WTOP will still broadcast on AM. There are hundreds of 50KW AM stations: http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html To your shagrin, I will be able to DX many of these for many years from Maryland, long after you are dead. I don't have to listen to news/ talk/sports, as long as, there is AM to DX. When, Coast-To-Coast-AM , the "Truckers Network", WWL, WLW, WHO, WCCO, WSB, WABC, WSM, WGN, WBBM, WOR, WJR, CHWO, WHAS, WGY, CJBC, WHAS, WLS, CKLW, WTAM, WBT, KMOX, WHAM and others all disappear off AM, I'll let you know.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually as more and more AM Radio Stations go to FM; and there is fewer and fewer AM Radio Stations. The fun of DXing AM may just pick-up as the AM Band Clears up and the Night-Time AM Reception becomes more like the 1930s with a few long range "Catches" out there each Night to be Heard. ~ RHF |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: I have about 10 years to go, so don't count the days. Well heck, you'll be 70 then. I enjoy what I am doing. You obviously don't. Sure I do! Retire, enjoy yourself! And radio is notorious for having no pensions... you save and invest or you are screwed. Well, I have my pension from my previous employment, and I saved and invested. It could be much worse. Yeah, you could have not been a racist bigot. But I'm not! LMFAO at the fake Hispanic. dxAce Michigan USA |
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