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Frank Dresser March 8th 07 02:53 PM

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Another noisemaker hits the airwaves.

Frank Dresser



john sumner[_2_] March 8th 07 02:55 PM

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and your point?
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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Another noisemaker hits the airwaves.

Frank Dresser





[email protected] March 8th 07 03:43 PM

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On Mar 8, 12:53?pm, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:
Another noisemaker hits the airwaves.

Frank Dresser


When, they start getting a bunch of listener complaints, hopefully
they will wake up - it not like anyone is listening with HD radios.


[email protected] March 8th 07 03:44 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 
On Mar 8, 12:53?pm, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:
Another noisemaker hits the airwaves.

Frank Dresser


When, they start getting a bunch of listener complaints, hopefully
they will wake up - it's not like anyone is listening with HD radios.


Frank Dresser March 8th 07 03:52 PM

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"john sumner" wrote in message
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and your point?


ABC radio hasn't shown the interest in IBOC that the other big networks
have.

I first heard the IBOC noise on WLS this morning and I'm sure it hasn't been
around long. Apparently ABC has decided IBOC is worth it.

Frank Dresser



D Peter Maus March 8th 07 04:25 PM

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Frank Dresser wrote:
"john sumner" wrote in message
...
and your point?


ABC radio hasn't shown the interest in IBOC that the other big networks
have.

I first heard the IBOC noise on WLS this morning and I'm sure it hasn't been
around long. Apparently ABC has decided IBOC is worth it.

Frank Dresser



Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high price.





David March 9th 07 05:07 AM

WLS IBOC-AM
 
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:53:08 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:

Another noisemaker hits the airwaves.

Frank Dresser

50,000 Watt clear channel stations do not need IBOC.

David Eduardo March 9th 07 05:25 AM

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"David" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:53:08 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:

Another noisemaker hits the airwaves.

Frank Dresser

50,000 Watt clear channel stations do not need IBOC.


They need it more than any other kind of station as they are commercially
viable as long as they find a way to lower the age of their listeners.

And those big 50 kw stations make all their money in the local metro, not on
the basis of extended coverage.



Frank Dresser March 9th 07 03:27 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high

price.





Ah. Maybe that explains why WLS continues to run their AM Stereo pilot at
night.

Frank Dresser



D Peter Maus March 9th 07 05:30 PM

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Frank Dresser wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high

price.




Ah. Maybe that explains why WLS continues to run their AM Stereo pilot at
night.

Frank Dresser




Yeah, I did notice that.

Being one of the first to implement and one of the best examples of
the potential of what AM Stereo could do (once platform motion was
resolved) it's a nice tip of the hat to the history of the station to
hang on to AM Stereo in whatever way it can.



David March 10th 07 01:27 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high

price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


David Eduardo March 10th 07 03:57 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high

price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.




dxAce March 10th 07 04:10 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Yeah, 'live cue RM' !

LMFAO at the prancing fake who's a few tostadas shy of a fiesta.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo March 10th 07 04:19 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they
do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Yeah, 'live cue RM' !


No, actually the issue is that digital introduces a delay, around 8 seconds,
and KGO used direct off air cues for news reporters rather than a separate
system. Other than the morning news block, KGO is HD in all permitted hours.



dxAce March 10th 07 04:23 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.

Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they
do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Yeah, 'live cue RM' !


No, actually the issue is that digital introduces a delay, around 8 seconds,
and KGO used direct off air cues for news reporters rather than a separate
system.


No, actually the issue is QRM... pay attention, dumbass.

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David March 10th 07 05:09 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:57:54 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Sorry, no matches were found for the KGO AM 810 Keyword "HD"...
Did you mean "Hot Topics"?

http://www.kgoam810.com/KeywordSearc...d=HD&x=12&y=19

David March 10th 07 05:11 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:57:54 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


http://www.ibiquity.com/hd_radio/hdr...CA#stationlist

dxAce March 10th 07 05:19 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 


David wrote:

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:57:54 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Sorry, no matches were found for the KGO AM 810 Keyword "HD"...
Did you mean "Hot Topics"?

http://www.kgoam810.com/KeywordSearc...d=HD&x=12&y=19


Nothing shown here either:

http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Telamon March 10th 07 08:12 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


I can confirm that they do have IBOC. It blocks reception of stations
for me.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo March 10th 07 10:49 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:57:54 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Sorry, no matches were found for the KGO AM 810 Keyword "HD"...
Did you mean "Hot Topics"?


KGO is on with HD, except for the morning news block. One of their back-up
engineers even posted pictures of the new transmitter (Nautel) with the HD
module.



David Eduardo March 10th 07 10:49 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:57:54 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


http://www.ibiquity.com/hd_radio/hdr...CA#stationlist


It's been on over a month now.



David Eduardo March 10th 07 10:51 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they
do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Sorry, no matches were found for the KGO AM 810 Keyword "HD"...
Did you mean "Hot Topics"?

http://www.kgoam810.com/KeywordSearc...d=HD&x=12&y=19


Nothing shown here either:

http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html


So? None of the stations that start broadcasting really have to notify
anyone when they start. An HD notification to the FCC is all that is
required, and then the facility can be built for HD at their convenience.
KGO decided to get a new transmitter and do some additional work prior to
commencing HD broadcasts, which they did last month.



David Eduardo March 10th 07 10:52 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.


Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they
do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


I can confirm that they do have IBOC. It blocks reception of stations
for me.


Of course, aceydeucy will say it is not so...



dxAce March 10th 07 11:53 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', who's a few tostadas shy of a fiesta, wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:57:54 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.

Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


http://www.ibiquity.com/hd_radio/hdr...CA#stationlist


It's been on over a month now.


Wow. A whole month of QRM.



dxAce March 10th 07 11:55 PM

WLS IBOC-AM
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.

Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they
do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


I can confirm that they do have IBOC. It blocks reception of stations
for me.


Of course, aceydeucy will say it is not so...


Got your panties in a knot, eh prancer?



dxAce March 11th 07 12:03 AM

WLS IBOC-AM
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:57:54 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.

Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


Sorry, no matches were found for the KGO AM 810 Keyword "HD"...
Did you mean "Hot Topics"?


KGO is on with HD, except for the morning news block. One of their back-up
engineers even posted pictures of the new transmitter (Nautel) with the HD
module.


Damn. I'll bet you're creaming your pantalunes just looking at all that
potential QRM.

LMFAO at the fake Hispanic.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Telamon March 11th 07 02:27 AM

WLS IBOC-AM
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:27:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Likely, the move is to facilitate the sale to Citadel, which has
not
yet closed. IBOC implementation is expensive. And a potential buyer
would want to see such an installation up and running on someone
else's
dime before closing on a property of questionable viability and high
price.

KGO has no bull**** IBOC.

Yes, it does. Untill they reslove a "live cue" system delay issue, they
do
not use it in the morning news block, however.


I can confirm that they do have IBOC. It blocks reception of stations
for me.


Of course, aceydeucy will say it is not so...


Oops! Sorry I can't confirm it. I was thinking of KOGO 600 not KGO 810.
I don't get KGO during the daytime, only nigh time. KOGO 600 does have
IBOC during the day.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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