On Apr 8, 4:38 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
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On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
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Those seem to all be the defaults. (Except I show 180 LQA Timeout,
and the 0 is half cut off.)
I also have lots of other options on that window. Do you have
something like "Current Group" "_A _B _C....." and
"Enable/Disable" "_Sounding _Polling _LQA _Allcalls _Anycalls....."?

Also, it doesn't have my receiver type, but I don't think
that should matter much, especially if I am not transmitting.

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I doubt that the "Current Group" area is the problem. Any frequency
you plug in is going to be placed in some group or other, and when the
receiver is scanning it will scan all of the groups.

I have the following "enabled":

Allcalls
Anycalls
Display Sounds
Listen Calls
Freq display
Voice detect

These may have been defaults...I can't recall now.

I'm surprised that there's no place where it says "Radio Type". On
mine, this appears in the upper right hand corner of the configuration/
options screen. When you click on it, there's a drop down menu that
includes a bunch of receivers.

Mine does have "Radio Type". But under that it doesn't
have TS-440. It has TS-850 but I think the protocol for
the TS-850 is different.

Mine didn't default to Allcalls, Anycalls, Listen Calls,
or Voice Detect. I clicked them. That didn't change
things. Then I turned everything on. It crashed.
I unclicked "Sounding". Then I got something.

[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]

[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]

Cool. But what does it mean?

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I think that this page is useful, as it says a few things about how to
interpret this info:

http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/ale.html

ALE is a world unto itself, though. Not sure it's my cup of tea, but
I'm trying to feel it out.

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On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
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On Apr 8, 12:15 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

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Cool. I've added the frequencies to my list.

I've installed PC-ALE but it hasn't demodulated
anything. Normally it says "SCANNING" and then
when I hear a signal it typically says "SYNCING" or
something like that but it has never printed a demodulated
message.
Do you know what the settings are to make it
demodulate signals?

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I'll have to check. If you look under configuration / options, you're
have to identify the receiver type. Then you're asked which features
you want to enable, and you should be able to pick and choose
liberally here. Then there are some parameters. The values I'm using
are as follows:

60 - Sounding Period
4 - Resound Period
3 - DCD Threshold
1 - Call Attempts
360 - TWA
30 - PTTD ms
25 - Sync Votes
25 - Frame Votes
0 - SCSC
18 - LQA Timeout
1 - Sync Errors
3 - Frame Errors
30 - Listen Time
50 - TX Audio Level
50 - RX Audio Level
1 - Radio Comm Port

I don't know what all of these values represent, but these are the
ones I use and everything seems to work okay.

Those seem to all be the defaults. (Except I show 180 LQA Timeout,
and the 0 is half cut off.)
I also have lots of other options on that window. Do you have
something like "Current Group" "_A _B _C....." and
"Enable/Disable" "_Sounding _Polling _LQA _Allcalls _Anycalls....."?

Also, it doesn't have my receiver type, but I don't think
that should matter much, especially if I am not transmitting.

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Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, here's a list of all the
frequencies I'm currently using:

ID RX FREQ MODE TX FREQ MODE T/R GRPS SND SELF
ANT PWR USE ATTN
-- --------------- --------------- --- -------- --- ---------------
--- --- --- ----
00 3617000 Hz USB 3617000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
01 3626000 Hz USB 3626000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
02 3791000 Hz USB 3791000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
03 3996000 Hz USB 3996000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
04 7165500 Hz USB 7165500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
05 10145500 Hz USB 10145500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
06 14342500 Hz USB 14342500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
07 5371500 Hz USB 5371500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
08 5403500 Hz USB 5403500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
09 7030500 Hz USB 7030500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
10 7040500 Hz USB 7040500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
11 7065000 Hz USB 7065000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
12 7102000 Hz USB 7102000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
13 10136500 Hz USB 10136500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
14 14100500 Hz USB 14100500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
15 14109500 Hz USB 14109500 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
16 11175000 Hz USB 11175000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
17 8992000 Hz USB 8992000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
18 13200000 Hz USB 13200000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
19 15016000 Hz USB 15016000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
20 4724000 Hz USB 4724000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
21 6739000 Hz USB 6739000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
22 3137000 Hz USB 3137000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
23 4721000 Hz USB 4721000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
24 5708000 Hz USB 5708000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
25 6721000 Hz USB 6721000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
26 9025000 Hz USB 9025000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
27 11226000 Hz USB 11226000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
28 13215000 Hz USB 13215000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
29 15043000 Hz USB 15043000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
30 18003000 Hz USB 18003000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
31 23337000 Hz USB 23337000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
32 5732000 Hz USB 5732000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
33 7527000 Hz USB 7527000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
34 8912000 Hz USB 8912000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
35 10242000 Hz USB 10242000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
36 11494000 Hz USB 11494000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
37 13907000 Hz USB 13907000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
38 15867000 Hz USB 15867000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
39 18594000 Hz USB 18594000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
40 20890000 Hz USB 20890000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
41 23214000 Hz USB 23214000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
42 25350000 Hz USB 25350000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
43 3053000 Hz USB 3053000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
44 4730000 Hz USB 4730000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
45 6709000 Hz USB 6709000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
46 8859000 Hz USB 8859000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
47 8980000 Hz USB 8980000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
48 9034000 Hz USB 9034000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
49 11196000 Hz USB 11196000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
50 13221000 Hz USB 13221000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
51 15082000 Hz USB 15082000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
52 17988000 Hz USB 17988000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
53 2805000 Hz USB 2805000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
54 5708000 Hz USB 5708000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
55 6715000 Hz USB 6715000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
56 6721000 Hz USB 6721000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
57 7632000 Hz USB 7632000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
58 8965000 Hz USB 8965000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
59 9057000 Hz USB 9057000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
60 2371000 Hz USB 2371000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
61 2374000 Hz USB 2374000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
62 4466000 Hz USB 4466000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
63 4469000 Hz USB 4469000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
64 4506000 Hz USB 4506000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
65 4509000 Hz USB 4509000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
66 4582000 Hz USB 4582000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
67 4585000 Hz USB 4585000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
68 4601000 Hz USB 4601000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
69 4604000 Hz USB 4604000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
70 4627000 Hz USB 4627000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
71 4630000 Hz USB 4630000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
72 7341000 Hz USB 7341000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
73 7635000 Hz USB 7635000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
74 7920000 Hz USB 7920000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
75 10162000 Hz USB 10162000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
76 13442000 Hz USB 13442000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
77 14902000 Hz USB 14902000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO
78 18205000 Hz USB 18205000 Hz USB BX A....... 0
000 100 B NO


Cool. I've added them to my list.
I noticed a large number of them are in ham bands.
Why is that I wonder.

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On Apr 8, 4:38 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

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Mine didn't default to Allcalls, Anycalls, Listen Calls,
or Voice Detect. I clicked them. That didn't change
things. Then I turned everything on. It crashed.
I unclicked "Sounding". Then I got something.

[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]

[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]

Cool. But what does it mean?

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I think that this page is useful, as it says a few things about how to
interpret this info:

http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/ale.html

ALE is a world unto itself, though. Not sure it's my cup of tea, but
I'm trying to feel it out.


That's a good link.
Looks interesting. But it also looks like it is pretty
important that the program control the frequency of
the receiver. That won't work for me but I surely
can eavsdrop on one frequency at a time now.

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On Apr 8, 6:02 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 4:38 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

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Mine didn't default to Allcalls, Anycalls, Listen Calls,
or Voice Detect. I clicked them. That didn't change
things. Then I turned everything on. It crashed.
I unclicked "Sounding". Then I got something.

[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]

[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][TWS 713][E]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]
[RX][CH 00][R]

Cool. But what does it mean?

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I think that this page is useful, as it says a few things about how to
interpret this info:

http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/ale.html

ALE is a world unto itself, though. Not sure it's my cup of tea, but
I'm trying to feel it out.

That's a good link.
Looks interesting. But it also looks like it is pretty
important that the program control the frequency of
the receiver. That won't work for me but I surely
can eavsdrop on one frequency at a time now.

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The link also refers to something I've not yet managed to do. The
author says that

"[w]hen the PC-ALE program detects a link being made...the program
will automatically stop scanning and will record the audio on the
channel to a .wav file if the record function is enabled. I have the
recorder set up to record 300 seconds, or five minutes, of audio when
two stations link up."

I have the record function enabled but PC-ALE has never recorded
a .wav file containing audio. I don't know if this is because I'm
never receiving anything to record or because some other software
setting is off. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me?

Steve

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On Apr 8, 6:02 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

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That's a good link.
Looks interesting. But it also looks like it is pretty
important that the program control the frequency of
the receiver. That won't work for me but I surely
can eavsdrop on one frequency at a time now.

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The link also refers to something I've not yet managed to do. The
author says that

"[w]hen the PC-ALE program detects a link being made...the program
will automatically stop scanning and will record the audio on the
channel to a .wav file if the record function is enabled. I have the
recorder set up to record 300 seconds, or five minutes, of audio when
two stations link up."

I have the record function enabled but PC-ALE has never recorded
a .wav file containing audio. I don't know if this is because I'm
never receiving anything to record or because some other software
setting is off. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me?

Steve

From what I have read so far it seems that ALE is used for
monitoring conditions on multiple frequencies and for data
transmission. And that it is used for voice as well as data.
I'm guessing that when the user wants to use a voice channel
it sets up the receiver and transmitter to use the frequency
that the monitoring function showed as having the best propagation
most recently.
So I imagine if you left it running and were listening eventually
you would hear some voice traffic. Then you could see
if the program recorded it.
But I get the impression that there really isn't a whole
lot of real traffic.
If the program was actually making your receiver scan
the different frequencies then I would think there would
be a better probability of you hearing some voice traffic.
Can it actually control your receiver? What kind of
receiver do you have?

I also noticed that PC-ALE is a real CPU hog. It
uses more than 90% of the CPU on my
2 GHz Pentium 4.

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On Apr 9, 12:07 am, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
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"Steve" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 6:02 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

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That's a good link.
Looks interesting. But it also looks like it is pretty
important that the program control the frequency of
the receiver. That won't work for me but I surely
can eavsdrop on one frequency at a time now.

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The link also refers to something I've not yet managed to do. The
author says that

"[w]hen the PC-ALE program detects a link being made...the program
will automatically stop scanning and will record the audio on the
channel to a .wav file if the record function is enabled. I have the
recorder set up to record 300 seconds, or five minutes, of audio when
two stations link up."

I have the record function enabled but PC-ALE has never recorded
a .wav file containing audio. I don't know if this is because I'm
never receiving anything to record or because some other software
setting is off. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me?

Steve

From what I have read so far it seems that ALE is used for
monitoring conditions on multiple frequencies and for data
transmission. And that it is used for voice as well as data.
I'm guessing that when the user wants to use a voice channel
it sets up the receiver and transmitter to use the frequency
that the monitoring function showed as having the best propagation
most recently.
So I imagine if you left it running and were listening eventually
you would hear some voice traffic. Then you could see
if the program recorded it.
But I get the impression that there really isn't a whole
lot of real traffic.
If the program was actually making your receiver scan
the different frequencies then I would think there would
be a better probability of you hearing some voice traffic.
Can it actually control your receiver? What kind of
receiver do you have?

I also noticed that PC-ALE is a real CPU hog. It
uses more than 90% of the CPU on my
2 GHz Pentium 4.

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PC-ALE is definitely a CPU hog. When I'm running it I make it a point
to close any programs running in the background. PC-ALE will control
the receiver, which in this case is a TenTec RX-320D.

Steve