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Cato April 23rd 07 03:41 AM

Lies and Distortion in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth
 

http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/pol/314920789.html

http://www.cei.org/pdf/ait/app.pdf

Al Gore...... quite an interesting guy! Made an interesting
little socialist propoganda film called "An Inconvenient Truth" as
most of us know.
He's been up here in Toronto, Canada a few times giving talks
to the "True Believers" of this new Global Warming, Climate Change,
"It's All Our Fault" religion. Signed a lot of autographs for left
wing Canadians that admire him. I guess he is one of the High Priests,
just like that Dr. David Suzuki guy. He is a real Prophet of Doom in
this new faith too. The web site URL's above show Lies & Distortions
in his film. Quite interesting.
Cato


David April 23rd 07 02:09 PM

Lies and Distortion in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth
 
On 22 Apr 2007 19:41:47 -0700, Cato wrote:


http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/pol/314920789.html

http://www.cei.org/pdf/ait/app.pdf

Al Gore...... quite an interesting guy! Made an interesting
little socialist propoganda film called "An Inconvenient Truth" as
most of us know.
He's been up here in Toronto, Canada a few times giving talks
to the "True Believers" of this new Global Warming, Climate Change,
"It's All Our Fault" religion. Signed a lot of autographs for left
wing Canadians that admire him. I guess he is one of the High Priests,
just like that Dr. David Suzuki guy. He is a real Prophet of Doom in
this new faith too. The web site URL's above show Lies & Distortions
in his film. Quite interesting.
Cato


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Iain_Murray

Cato April 23rd 07 06:53 PM

Lies and Distortion in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth
 
On Apr 23, 6:09 am, David wrote:
On 22 Apr 2007 19:41:47 -0700, Cato wrote:







http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/pol/314920789.html


http://www.cei.org/pdf/ait/app.pdf


Al Gore...... quite an interesting guy! Made an interesting
little socialist propoganda film called "An Inconvenient Truth" as
most of us know.
He's been up here in Toronto, Canada a few times giving talks
to the "True Believers" of this new Global Warming, Climate Change,
"It's All Our Fault" religion. Signed a lot of autographs for left
wing Canadians that admire him. I guess he is one of the High Priests,
just like that Dr. David Suzuki guy. He is a real Prophet of Doom in
this new faith too. The web site URL's above show Lies & Distortions
in his film. Quite interesting.
Cato


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Iain_Murray- Hide quoted text -

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SOURCEWATCH -- a Left - Socialist Organization that attacks
Conservatism and Libertarianism. They tend to strongly support Left-
Liberal-Socialist values.
So, sure, Ya, like I'm going to listen to them. Right.

Ya! Right... Well I guess if Socialist organizations lend support
to Stauber and Rampton then I know what side of the fence they are
sitting on, don't I?

Alan Caruba, a corporate public relations
campaigner and vocal global warming skeptic, writes "Source Watch is a
project of the Center of Media & Democracy, a left-wing organization
that devotes a lot of time to attacking the public relations
profession in general and conservative writers in particular."

Center for Media & Democracy
520 University Avenue, Suite 310, Madison, WI 53703
Phone 608-260-9713 | Fax 608-260-9714 | Email



The Center for Media & Democracy (CMD) is a counterculture public
relations effort disguised as an independent media organization. CMD
isn't really a center, it would be more accurate to call it a
partnership, since it is essentially a two-person operation.
Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber operate, as do most self-anointed
progressive watchdogs, from the presumption that any communication
issued from a corporate headquarters must be viewed with a jaundiced
eye. In their own quarterly PR Watch newsletter, they recently
referred to corporate PR as a propaganda industry, misleading citizens
and manipulating minds in the service of special interests.
Ironically, Rampton and Stauber have elected to dip into the deep
pockets of multi-million-dollar foundations with special interest
agendas of their own.

Their books Mad Cow U.S.A. and Toxic Sludge Is Good for You! were
produced and promoted using grant monies from the Foundation for Deep
Ecology ($25,000) and the Education Foundation of America ($20,000),
among others. Along with the more recent Trust Us: We're Experts,
these books are scare-mongering tales about a corporate culture out of
control, and each implies that the public needs rescuing. Guess who
the heroes in this fantasy are?

Despite his wild claims that federal agencies have covered up U.S. mad
cow disease cases, John Stauber has become a quotable celebrity on the
subject. In 1997, at the height of the initial mad-cow panic, a CMD
press release warned: Evidence suggests there may already be a mad-cow-
type of disease infecting both U.S. pigs and cattle. Rampton and
Stauber have never provided any documentation to back up this reckless
claim; no cases of mad-cow disease have ever been documented in U.S.
livestock. John Stauber was one of only four mad-cow experts offered
to reporters by Fenton Communications' media arm, Environmental Media
Services.


As the liberal Village Voice commented in April 2001, "These guys come
from the far side of liberal." Seen through this dynamic duo's
socialist lens, society's major problems are capitalism in general and
corporations in particular. If someone in a shirt and tie dares make a
profit (especially if food or chemicals are involved), Rampton and
Stauber are bound to have a problem with it. Unless, of course, that
food is vegetarian, organic, certified fair-trade, shade-grown,
biodynamic, or biotech-free - in which case, the sky's the limit!


Rampton and Stauber's latest book (Trust Us, We're Experts! ) was
delivered to the media with a slick press kit, citing favorable
reviews from media experts. The packet also included a prewritten list
of questions for reporters to ask when interviewing the authors. The
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel blew the whistle, though, noting that "a
somewhat sheepish Stauber" offered the following feeble excuse: "What
you see is a true PR campaign around our book. This is how book
publishing is done. I think it's bad. I hate it."
http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/12

Cato



Chas.Chan April 23rd 07 07:10 PM

Global Warming is Corporation's Biggest Government Trough Yet
 
"David" wrote in message
...
On 22 Apr 2007 19:41:47 -0700, Cato wrote:


http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/pol/314920789.html

http://www.cei.org/pdf/ait/app.pdf

Al Gore...... quite an interesting guy! Made an interesting
little socialist propoganda film called "An Inconvenient Truth" as
most of us know.
He's been up here in Toronto, Canada a few times giving talks
to the "True Believers" of this new Global Warming, Climate Change,
"It's All Our Fault" religion. Signed a lot of autographs for left
wing Canadians that admire him. I guess he is one of the High Priests,
just like that Dr. David Suzuki guy. He is a real Prophet of Doom in
this new faith too. The web site URL's above show Lies & Distortions
in his film. Quite interesting.
Cato


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Iain_Murray


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"Dominant media" editors and others frequently accuse climate disaster
skeptics of working for organizations that received funding from
corporations. The accusation is intended to squelch debate on the merits -
by implying that any such writer or organization should not be trusted, as
they have a financial stake in the issue - which believers in climate
catastrophe scenarios supposedly do not have.
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Global Warming is Corporation's Biggest Government Trough Yet

Washington this week officially welcomed the newest industry on the hunt for
financial and regulatory favors. Big CarbonCap may have the same dollar-sign
agenda as Big Oil or Big Pharma, but don't expect Nancy Pelosi to admit to
it. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1248

Democrats want to flog the global warming theme through 2008 and they'll
take what help they can get, even if it means cozying up to executives whose
goal is to enrich their firms. Right now, the corporate giants calling for a
mandatory carbon cap serve too useful a political purpose for anyone to
delve into their baser motives.

The Climate Action Partnership, a group of 10 major companies that made
headlines this week with its call for a national limit on carbon dioxide
emissions, would surely feign shock at such an accusation. After all, their
plea was carefully timed to coincide with President Bush's State of the
Union capitulation on global warming, and it had the desired PR effect. The
media dutifully declared that "even" business now recognized the climate
threat. Sen. Barbara Boxer,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2084
lauded the corporate angels for thinking of the "common good."

There was a time when the financial press understood that companies exist to
make money. And it happens that the cap-and-trade climate program these 10
jolly green giants are now calling for is a regulatory device designed to
financially reward companies that reduce CO2 emissions, and punish those
that don't.

Four of the affiliates--Duke, PG&E, FPL and PNM Resources--are utilities
that have made big bets on wind, hydroelectric and nuclear power. So a Kyoto
program would reward them for simply enacting their business plan, and
simultaneously sock it to their competitors. Duke also owns Cinergy, which
relies heavily on dirty, CO2-emitting coal plants. But Cinergy will soon
have to replace those plants with cleaner equipment. Under a Kyoto, it'll
get paid for its trouble.

DuPont has been plunging into biofuels, the use of which would soar under a
cap. Somebody has to cobble together all these complex trading deals, so say
hello to Lehman Brothers. Caterpillar has invested heavily in new engines
that generate "clean energy." British Petroleum is mostly doing public
penance for its dirty oil habit, but also gets a plug for its own biofuels
venture.

Finally, there's General Electric, whose CEO Jeffrey Immelt these days
spends as much time in Washington as Connecticut. GE makes all the solar
equipment and wind turbines (at $2 million a pop) that utilities would have
to buy under a climate regime. GE's revenue from environmental products long
ago passed the $10 billion mark, and it doesn't take much "ecomagination" to
see why Mr. Immelt is leading the pack of climate profiteers.

CEOs are quick learners, and even those who would get smacked by a carbon
cap are now devising ways to make warming work to their political advantage.
The "most creative" prize goes to steel giant Nucor. Steven Rowlan, the
company's environmental director, doesn't want carbon caps in the U.S.--oh,
no. The smarter answer, he explains, would be for the U.S. to impose trade
restrictions on foreign firms that aren't environmentally clean. Global
warming as foil for trade protectionism: Chuck Schumer's dream.

What makes this lobby worse than the usual K-Street crowd is that it offers
no upside. At least when Big Pharma self-interestedly asks for fewer
regulations, the economy benefits. There's nothing capitalist about lobbying
for a program that foists its debilitating costs on taxpayers and consumers
while redistributing the wealth to a few corporate players.

This is what comes from Washington steadily backstepping energy policy into
the interventionist 1970s, picking winners and losers. In ethanol, in
biodiesel, in wind farms, success isn't a function of supply or demand. The
champs are the ones that coax out of Washington the best subsidies and
regulations. Global warming is simply the biggest trough yet.

Both Republicans and Democrats understand this debate is increasingly about
home-state economics, even as they publicly joust about environmental rights
or wrongs. The softening Republican stance on a mandatory program is one
result. New Mexico's Pete Domenici appeared to undergo an epiphany about
global warming in 2005, voting for a Senate resolution supporting caps. The
switch might have more to do with remembering that his state is
nuclear-power central, and will win big under a new program. Just ask his
fellow New Mexican, Jeff Bingaman, who introduced the resolution.

Economic interests also motivate those Democrats who won't play nice. The
senators who have voted against previous bills represent those industries
that will suffer most under Mr. Immelt's agenda. Louisiana's Mary Landrieu
(oil); Montana's Max Baucus (coal); West Virginia's Robert Byrd (ditto).
House Energy & Commerce Chair John Dingell remains a skeptic, since the last
thing his Michigan auto makers need is yet another reason for people to not
buy their cars.

Which is fine with Ms. Pelosi. The Democratic leadership ran out of the
winner's circle last November promising to tackle climate. And much was made
this week of Madam Speaker's decision to wrest control of the debate away
from Mr. Dingell's purview, handing it instead to a new "select" committee
on climate change.

But read the fine print. The new vaunted committee will have no legislative
authority, but exists solely to hold hearings and to "communicate with the
American people." Ms. Pelosi and Harry Reid want to talk about this issue .
.. . and talk, and talk and talk. But not necessarily anything more.

That's because Democrats want global warming as an issue through 2008. With
Al Gore
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2140
getting his Oscar nod, they've got a "problem" that captures the
public imagination, as well as an endless supply of cash from thrilled
environmental groups. No need to spoil it with a solution. And a Democratic
president in 2009 would be more open to any ultimate legislation.

Best yet, they've got the "support" of the business community, or at least
the savvier elements of it. Welcome, Big CarbonCap; we're likely to be
hearing a lot from you.

Global warming alarmism generates political and financial incentives

The ink has barely dried on its new code of conduct, and already Congress is
redefining ethics and pork to fit a global warming agenda. As Will Rogers
observed, "with Congress, every time they make a joke, it's a law. And every
time they make a law, it's a joke."

However, life-altering, economy-wrecking climate bills are no laughing
matter. That's why we need to recognize that the Kyoto Protocol and proposed
"climate protection" laws will not stabilize the climate, even if CO2 is to
blame. It's why we must acknowledge that money to be made, and power to be
gained, from climate alarmism and symbolism is a major reason so many are
getting on the climate "consensus" bandwagon.

In accusing ExxonMobil of giving "more than $19 million since the late
1990s" to public policy institutes that promote climate holocaust "denial,"
Senate Inquisitors Olympia Snowe and Jay Rockefeller slandered both the
donor and recipients. Moreover, this is less than half of what Pew
Charitable Trusts and allied foundations contributed to the Pew Center on
Climate Change alone over the same period.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/f...asp?fndid=5213

It's a pittance compared to what
US environmental groups spent propagating climate chaos scare stories.

It amounts to 30 cents for every $1,000 that the US, EU and UN spent since
1993 (some $80 billion all together) on global warming catastrophe research.
And it ignores the fact that the Exxon grants also supported malaria
control, Third World economic development and many other efforts.

Aside from honest, if unfounded, fears of climate disasters, why might
others support climate alarmism?

Scientists who use climate change to explain environmental changes improve
their chances of getting research grants from foundations, corporations -
and US government programs that budget a whopping $6.5 billion for global
warming in 2007. They also increase the likelihood of getting headlines and
quotes in news stories: "Climate change threatens extinction of rare frogs,
scientist says." Climate disaster skeptics face an uphill battle on grants,
headlines and quotes.

Politicians get to grandstand green credentials, cement relationships with
activists who can support reelection campaigns and higher aspirations,
magically transform $14-billion in alternative energy pork into ethical
planetary protection, and promote policies that otherwise would raise
serious eyebrows.

Corporate actions that cause even one death are dealt with severely; but
praise is heaped on federal mileage standards that cause hundreds of deaths,
as cars are downsized and plasticized to save fuel and reduce emissions.
High energy prices are denounced at congressional hearings, if due to market
forces - but praised if imposed by government "to prevent climate change."
Drilling in the Arctic or off our coasts is condemned, even to create jobs,
tax revenues and enhanced security; but subsidizing wind power to generate
2% of our electricity is lauded, even if giant turbines despoil millions of
acres and kill millions of birds.

Alarmist rhetoric has also redefined corporate social responsibility,
created the Climate Action Partnership and launched the emerging
Enviro-Industrial Complex.

Environmental activists have turned climate fears into successful
fund-raising tools - and a brilliant strategy for achieving their dream of
controlling global resource use, technological change and economic
development, through laws, treaties, regulations and pressure campaigns.
Recent developments promise to supercharge these efforts.

Environmental Defense
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6940
is collaborating with Morgan Stanley, to promote
emission trading systems and other climate change initiatives - giving ED
direct monetary and policy stakes in the banking, investment and political
arenas, and in any carbon allowance or cap-and-trade programs Congress might
enact. Other environmental groups, companies and Wall Street firms will no
doubt follow their lead.

ED designed and led the disingenuous campaign that persuaded many healthcare
agencies to ban DDT, resulting in millions of deaths from malaria.
Greenpeace,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=7222
Sierra Club,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6930
Union of Concerned Scientists,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6631
ED and other groups
still post deceitful claims about DDT on their websites, further delaying
progress against this killer disease. By blaming climate change for malaria,
they deflect criticism for their vile actions.

Climate catastrophe claims enable activists to gain official advisory status
with companies and governments on environmental issues. They also make it
"ethical" for Rainforest Action Network
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6904
and other pressure groups to oppose
power generation in Third World countries, where few have access to
electricity - and thereby keep communities perpetually impoverished.

Meanwhile, Prince Charles gets lionized for appropriating 62 first class
jetliner seats for his entourage of 20, on a trans-Atlantic trip to receive
an environmental prize and lecture Americans on saving the Earth - because
at least he didn't use his private jet.

Companies in the CAP and EIC can develop and promote new product lines,
using tax breaks, subsidies, legal mandates and regulatory provisions to
gain competitive advantages. They get favorable coverage from the media, and
kid-glove treatment from members of Congress who routinely pillory climate
chaos skeptics.

Some worry that this could become a license to further redefine corporate
ethics, present self-interest as planet-saving altruism, and profit from
questionable arrangements with environmental groups and Congress. Certainly,
cap-and-trade rules will create valuable property rights and reward
companies that reduce CO2 emissions, often by replacing old, inefficient,
high-polluting plants that they want to retire anyway.

DuPont and BP will get money for biofuels, GE for its portfolio of climate
protection equipment, ADM for ethanol, Lehman Brothers for emission trading
and other deals. Environmental activists will be able to influence
corporate, state and federal policy, and rake in still more cash. Insurance
companies can blame global warming for rate increases and coverage denials.

Lobbying and deal-brokering will enter a new era. As Thenardier the
innkeeper observed in Les Miserables, "When it comes to fixing prices, there
are lots of tricks he knows. Jees, it's just amazing how it grows." Indeed,
the opportunities to "game the system" will be limited only by one's
"eco-magination."

To determine the losers, look in the mirror. Activists and politicians are
creating a Frankenstein climate monster on steroids. Were it real, we'd need
to dismantle our economy and living standards to slay the beast. How else
could we eliminate 80-90% of US and EU fossil fuel emissions by 2050, to
stabilize carbon dioxide emissions and (theoretically) a climate that has
always been anything but stable?

Think lifestyles circa 1900, or earlier. Ponder the British environment
minister's latest prescription: World War II rationing, no meat or cheese,
restrictions on air travel, no veggies that aren't grown locally. France
wants a new government agency that would single out, police and penalize
countries that "abuse the Earth." Others want to put little solar panels on
African huts, while kleptocratic dictators get millions of dollars for
trading away their people's right to generate electricity and emit CO2.

We should improve energy efficiency, reduce pollution, and develop new
energy technologies. But when we demand immediate action to prevent
exaggerated or imaginary crises, we stifle debate, railroad through programs
that don't work, create enough pork to fill 50 Chicago stockyards, and
impose horrendous unintended consequences on countless families. That is
shortsighted and immoral.

http://www.webcommentary.com/asp/Sho...np&date=070206

"Our understanding of the climate is very primitive, simply because the
climate is so complex. Climate is an immense, multi-stable, driven, chaotic,
optimally turbulent, constructally organized tera-watt scale heat engine,
with dozens of forcings and feedbacks, both internal and external, and both
known and unknown. It is composed of five major subsystems (ocean,
atmosphere, lithosphere, cryosphere, and biosphere), none of which are well
understood. Each of these subsystems has its own forcings and feedbacks,
again both known and unknown, which affect both itself and the system as a
whole.

"In addition, because of the sheer size of the system, our measurements of
the various phenomena have large error margins. Even with satellites, we don
't have good figures for such basic things as total upwelling radiation at
different frequencies, the albedo, or the temperature of the upper
atmosphere. Our scientific knowledge of the whole is so poor, and our
measurements are so uncertain, that we can not predict the next month's
weather or the next decade's climate in anything more than the most general
terms.

"Despite (or perhaps because of) this lack of knowledge, the rude truth is
that many climate scientists seem extremely reluctant to say "we don't
know". As a result, people like yourself and others expect or request that
we explain extremely short-term (25 year) fluctuations in the climate.
Unfortunately, given our current state of knowledge, this is not necessarily
possible.

"Take for example the effects of the solar magnetic field on climate. This
effect is known, but is very poorly understood. Is it responsible for the
recent warming? We don't know.

"And this is separate from the effect of coronal mass ejections and the
solar wind on climate, which is even less understood.

"Or how about the effect of land use changes? NOAA has said publicly that
they may have a greater effect than CO2 changes. Are they responsible for
the recent warming? We don't know.

"It is well known that there are a variety of short-term (multi-decadal)
oscillations or shifts in the climate system, such as the Pacific Decadal
Oscillation, the Arctic Oscillation, the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation,
and others. These have significant effects on the global temperature. Could
one of these, or a combination of these, or other unknown oscillations have
caused the recent warming? We don't know.

"Methane is not a well-mixed gas. Levels vary all over the world. It has
recently been discovered that plants emit methane, perhaps a quarter of the
global totals. This methane is concentrated in the lowest levels of the
atmosphere. Worldwide, the planet is greening. What effect has this had on
the registered temperatures, which are measured in the lowest layers of the
atmosphere? We don't know.

"It has recently been discovered that plankton emit gases that cause the
formation of clouds above them. What effect does this have on the climate?
We don't know.

"How much has the sun's irradiance changed since 1975? There is much
scientific dispute about that question as well, because of the lack of
overlap between satellites that have given different answers.

"Finally, how do these (and a host of other forcings and feedbacks) affect
each other? What happens if a swing in the PDO occurs at the same time as a
swing in the cosmic ray intensity, or any of hundreds of other possible
interactions? This we really, really don't know.

"In fact, of the 12 forcings listed by the IPCC in the Third Annual Report,
the "Level of Scientific Understanding" (LOSU) of nine of them is rated as
"Low", or "Very Low" . that's the majority of the forcings (and doesn't even
include some known forcings), yet despite that, people like yourself say
"explain the historical record". Sorry, but . we don't know.

"Now, faced with this lack of knowledge, the standard response from the AGW
crowd is "it must be CO2? . but why must it be CO2? Not knowing is certainly
not proof of anything. In addition, the change doesn't fit the theoretical
model of CO2 effects. Why would CO2 cause very little effect until 1975 (as
evidenced by the close correlation between solar and temperature up to that
point) and then suddenly cause a large effect? Why would the sun's suddenly
stop affecting the temperature in 1975? Saying "we can't explain it, so it
must be CO2? is nonsense.

"So, despite the existence of a wide variety of possible explanations, I
regret that I cannot offer you anything that is "resistant to criticism"
about what caused the divergence. We don't even have any evidence "resistant
to criticism" regarding whether the divergence is of the claimed size. It is
one of the many, many unsolved mysteries of the climate. All it proves is
one thing .

"WE DON'T KNOW"



Telamon April 24th 07 02:25 AM

Lies and Distortion in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth
 
In article .com,
Cato wrote:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/pol/314920789.html

http://www.cei.org/pdf/ait/app.pdf

Al Gore...... quite an interesting guy! Made an interesting
little socialist propoganda film called "An Inconvenient Truth" as
most of us know.
He's been up here in Toronto, Canada a few times giving talks
to the "True Believers" of this new Global Warming, Climate Change,
"It's All Our Fault" religion. Signed a lot of autographs for left
wing Canadians that admire him. I guess he is one of the High Priests,
just like that Dr. David Suzuki guy. He is a real Prophet of Doom in
this new faith too. The web site URL's above show Lies & Distortions
in his film. Quite interesting.


Yeah, the biggest energy consumer and polluter in the northern
hemisphere telling the masses that they have to cut back. What a hoot.

Be sure to buy those carbon credits from his sham company when you drive
your car to work or the grocery store.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF April 24th 07 07:17 PM

Lies and Distortion in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth
 
On Apr 23, 6:09 am, David wrote:
On 22 Apr 2007 19:41:47 -0700, Cato wrote:







http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/pol/314920789.html


http://www.cei.org/pdf/ait/app.pdf


Al Gore...... quite an interesting guy! Made an interesting
little socialist propoganda film called "An Inconvenient Truth" as
most of us know.
He's been up here in Toronto, Canada a few times giving talks
to the "True Believers" of this new Global Warming, Climate Change,
"It's All Our Fault" religion. Signed a lot of autographs for left
wing Canadians that admire him. I guess he is one of the High Priests,
just like that Dr. David Suzuki guy. He is a real Prophet of Doom in
this new faith too. The web site URL's above show Lies & Distortions
in his film. Quite interesting.
Cato


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DaviD - So your 'authoritative source is the
Source Watch = http://www.sourcewatch.org/

A Front for the Center for Media and Democracy Orgs
Supported by the Tides Foundation; a Front for the
Heinz Endowments, headed by Teresa Heinz Kerry
http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...ew.cfm/oid/225
Tides Foundation and the Tides Center, creating a new model
for Liberal {Left Wing} Grant-Making - one that Strains the
Legal Boundaries of U.S. Tax Law {Tax Evasion ?} in the
pursuit of Liberal {Leftist} Socialist Activist Goals.

keep pushing the liberal 'bs' up the hill ~ RHF

Chas.Chan April 24th 07 07:54 PM

Lies and Distortion in Dr.David's Decoder Ring
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On 23 Apr 2007 10:53:35 -0700, Cato wrote:
SOURCEWATCH -- a Left - Socialist Organization that attacks
Conservatism and Libertarianism. They tend to strongly support Left-
Liberal-Socialist values.
So, sure, Ya, like I'm going to listen to them. Right.

Why not? I listen to your CEI and AEI people. You must listen to all
sides of an argument then use your truth decoder ring.


Your decoder ring is Made in China!



[email protected] April 24th 07 08:28 PM

Lies and Distortion in Dr.David's Decoder Ring
 
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www.madcowprod.com/index.html

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Cocaine they stold from somebody? I saw it on the internet five or six
years ago.U.S.fed govt are the Biggest drug dealers in the World.Those
Poppys in Afghanistan are still growing too.bush once said he would have
all of those Poppy (Opium) fields in Afghanistan shut down.Go LQQK it
up.
cuhulin


RHF April 24th 07 10:01 PM

Lies and Distortion in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth
 
On Apr 23, 6:09 am, David wrote:
On 22 Apr 2007 19:41:47 -0700, Cato wrote:







http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/pol/314920789.html


http://www.cei.org/pdf/ait/app.pdf


Al Gore...... quite an interesting guy! Made an interesting
little socialist propoganda film called "An Inconvenient Truth" as
most of us know.
He's been up here in Toronto, Canada a few times giving talks
to the "True Believers" of this new Global Warming, Climate Change,
"It's All Our Fault" religion. Signed a lot of autographs for left
wing Canadians that admire him. I guess he is one of the High Priests,
just like that Dr. David Suzuki guy. He is a real Prophet of Doom in
this new faith too. The web site URL's above show Lies & Distortions
in his film. Quite interesting.
Cato


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DaviD - So your 'authoritative source is the
Source Watch = http://www.sourcewatch.org/

A Front for the Center for Media and Democracy Orgs
Supported by the Tides Foundation; a Front for the
Heinz Endowments, headed by Teresa Heinz Kerry
http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...ew.cfm/oid/225
Tides Foundation and the Tides Center, creating a new model
for Liberal {Left Wing} Grant-Making - one that Strains the
Legal Boundaries of U.S. Tax Law {Tax Evasion ?} in the
pursuit of Liberal {Leftist} Socialist Activist Goals.

keep pushing the liberal 'bs' up the hill ~ RHF

RHF April 24th 07 10:12 PM

Lies and Distortion in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth
 
On Apr 24, 6:05 am, David wrote:
On 23 Apr 2007 10:53:35 -0700, Cato wrote:

SOURCEWATCH -- a Left - Socialist Organization that attacks
Conservatism and Libertarianism. They tend to strongly support Left-
Liberal-Socialist values.
So, sure, Ya, like I'm going to listen to them. Right.


Why not? I listen to your CEI and AEI people. You must listen to all
sides of an argument then use your truth decoder ring.



David - Good here is the 'other' side of the Facts
{No Al Gore Hype Exaggeration of the Facts to
Create Fear and Hysteria Required} - Just a realistic
'alternative view' of the known Scientific Evidence to
Consider by Those would Think-for-Themselves. ~ RHF


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