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RF Caused By SDR-IQ June 2nd 07 03:39 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
There is a new Yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.



RHF June 2nd 07 07:12 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
On Jun 1, 7:39 pm, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


The obvious solution is . . .
not to buy one. ~ RHF

Ian Jackson June 2nd 07 08:24 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
In message .com, RHF
writes
On Jun 1, 7:39 pm, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


The obvious solution is . . .
not to buy one. ~ RHF
.
.
. .

OK. What's 'SDR-IQ'?
Ian.
--


[email protected] June 2nd 07 11:46 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
On Jun 1, 10:39 pm, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.



Even with the link; it still makes little sense;

http://www.rfspace.com/sdriq.html


Why the hell don;t these guys tell us SDR stands for Software Defined
Receiver..

receiving Sonar and Sound ? Listening to Bats ?

- Why post here..

Who are these guys selling this thing to ?











bm June 2nd 07 12:58 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 


- Why post here..

Who are these guys selling this thing to ?


DX-ers.



Ian Jackson June 2nd 07 01:04 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
In message . com,
writes
On Jun 1, 10:39 pm, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.



Even with the link; it still makes little sense;

http://www.rfspace.com/sdriq.html


Why the hell don;t these guys tell us SDR stands for Software Defined
Receiver..

receiving Sonar and Sound ? Listening to Bats ?

- Why post here..

Who are these guys selling this thing to ?


Thanks for the 'Software Defined Receiver'. I suppose it's obvious to
those in the know.

Being an analogue sort of person, I'm a bit of a dinosaur when it comes
to these newfangled devices, but it certainly looks interesting.
Unfortunately, all things digital tend to generate radio frequency
interference, and it takes a lot of design skill to make them usable.
Undoubtedly, the designers of the RDF-IQ will have taken this into
account.

As this is the rec.radio.shortwave NG, it makes perfect sense to
publicise this 500Hz to 30MHz receiver here. Free samples to all our
readers?

Ian.
--


Steve June 2nd 07 02:58 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
On Jun 2, 8:04 am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message . com,
writes





On Jun 1, 10:39 pm, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


Even with the link; it still makes little sense;


http://www.rfspace.com/sdriq.html


Why the hell don;t these guys tell us SDR stands for Software Defined
Receiver..


receiving Sonar and Sound ? Listening to Bats ?


- Why post here..


Who are these guys selling this thing to ?


Thanks for the 'Software Defined Receiver'. I suppose it's obvious to
those in the know.

Being an analogue sort of person, I'm a bit of a dinosaur when it comes
to these newfangled devices, but it certainly looks interesting.
Unfortunately, all things digital tend to generate radio frequency
interference, and it takes a lot of design skill to make them usable.
Undoubtedly, the designers of the RDF-IQ will have taken this into
account.

As this is the rec.radio.shortwave NG, it makes perfect sense to
publicise this 500Hz to 30MHz receiver here. Free samples to all our
readers?

Ian.
--- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well the humble little TenTec RX320D on my desk doesn't seem to
generate any irritating noise. It just does its job reliably and
without complaint.


Ian Jackson June 2nd 07 03:24 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
In message . com, Steve
writes
On Jun 2, 8:04 am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message . com,
writes





On Jun 1, 10:39 pm, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


Even with the link; it still makes little sense;


http://www.rfspace.com/sdriq.html


Why the hell don;t these guys tell us SDR stands for Software Defined
Receiver..


receiving Sonar and Sound ? Listening to Bats ?


- Why post here..


Who are these guys selling this thing to ?


Thanks for the 'Software Defined Receiver'. I suppose it's obvious to
those in the know.

Being an analogue sort of person, I'm a bit of a dinosaur when it comes
to these newfangled devices, but it certainly looks interesting.
Unfortunately, all things digital tend to generate radio frequency
interference, and it takes a lot of design skill to make them usable.
Undoubtedly, the designers of the RDF-IQ will have taken this into
account.

As this is the rec.radio.shortwave NG, it makes perfect sense to
publicise this 500Hz to 30MHz receiver here. Free samples to all our
readers?

Ian.
--- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well the humble little TenTec RX320D on my desk doesn't seem to
generate any irritating noise. It just does its job reliably and
without complaint.


Yes, I see that it gets very good reviews. Lots of 5 out of 5 in Eham.
Ian.
--


Ron Baker, Pluralitas![_2_] June 2nd 07 03:26 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 

"RF Caused By SDR-IQ" wrote in message
. ..
There is a new Yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


Is it interfering with itself or other devices.

If it is interfering with itself it is perhaps not surprising.
It is an interesting looking gadget but it is not a radio.
It has no front end. It is open to the whole 500 Hz
to 30 MHz all the time. If you have a strong AM broadcast
station near by or a ham or CBer in the neighborhood
their signal will override everything else. The SDR-IQ would
make a good IF/back end. Better results would be
obtained by connecting the SDR-IQ to the IF of another
receiver. Or by putting an RF preselector in front of it.

The TenTec RX-320D is about the same price but has a
real radio front end. Unfortunately the TenTec has
an RS232 rather than USB interface and the TenTec only
has a 12 kHz bandwidth.

--
rb



bm June 2nd 07 07:01 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
Baker, you are obviously judging from assumptions and not facts. Of
course it is a radio. Make an internet search on the different SDRs
available and user reviews. You may be surprised.


Is it interfering with itself or other devices.

If it is interfering with itself it is perhaps not surprising.
It is an interesting looking gadget but it is not a radio.
It has no front end. It is open to the whole 500 Hz
to 30 MHz all the time. If you have a strong AM broadcast
station near by or a ham or CBer in the neighborhood
their signal will override everything else. The SDR-IQ would
make a good IF/back end. Better results would be
obtained by connecting the SDR-IQ to the IF of another
receiver. Or by putting an RF preselector in front of it.

The TenTec RX-320D is about the same price but has a
real radio front end. Unfortunately the TenTec has
an RS232 rather than USB interface and the TenTec only
has a 12 kHz bandwidth.

--
rb



Ron Baker, Pluralitas![_2_] June 3rd 07 12:03 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 

"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in message
...

"RF Caused By SDR-IQ" wrote in message
. ..
There is a new Yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/ which may be of interest
to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The purpose of the group is
to exchange information about RFI caused by the SDR-IQ and how to reduce
or eliminate the RFI.


Is it interfering with itself or other devices.

If it is interfering with itself it is perhaps not surprising.
It is an interesting looking gadget but it is not a radio.
It has no front end. It is open to the whole 500 Hz
to 30 MHz all the time.


I take that back. The SDR-14 is known to have that
problem. The SDR-IQ block diagram shows some
front end filters.

If you have a strong AM broadcast
station near by or a ham or CBer in the neighborhood
their signal will override everything else. The SDR-IQ would
make a good IF/back end. Better results would be
obtained by connecting the SDR-IQ to the IF of another
receiver. Or by putting an RF preselector in front of it.

The TenTec RX-320D is about the same price but has a
real radio front end. Unfortunately the TenTec has
an RS232 rather than USB interface and the TenTec only
has a 12 kHz bandwidth.

--
rb




Steve June 3rd 07 12:42 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
On Jun 2, 7:03 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in m...



"RF Caused By SDR-IQ" wrote in message
...
There is a new Yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/which may be of interest
to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The purpose of the group is
to exchange information about RFI caused by the SDR-IQ and how to reduce
or eliminate the RFI.


Is it interfering with itself or other devices.


If it is interfering with itself it is perhaps not surprising.
It is an interesting looking gadget but it is not a radio.
It has no front end. It is open to the whole 500 Hz
to 30 MHz all the time.


I take that back. The SDR-14 is known to have that
problem. The SDR-IQ block diagram shows some
front end filters.



If you have a strong AM broadcast
station near by or a ham or CBer in the neighborhood
their signal will override everything else. The SDR-IQ would
make a good IF/back end. Better results would be
obtained by connecting the SDR-IQ to the IF of another
receiver. Or by putting an RF preselector in front of it.


The TenTec RX-320D is about the same price but has a
real radio front end. Unfortunately the TenTec has
an RS232 rather than USB interface and the TenTec only
has a 12 kHz bandwidth.


--
rb- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


To me, the most striking thing about this little box is that it's
actually USB powered. So, it wouldn't require an independent power
supply or wall wart. That means you could run it off a battery powered
laptop after you lost power in a storm or something. I guess that's
kind of neat, but if it generates so much RFI that a new Yahoo group
has appeared just to discuss that fact, I wouldn't let this thing
anywhere near my house.

Steve


RHF June 3rd 07 12:51 AM

QUESTION - Does the RF-Space SDR-IQ "Software Defined Receiver" process Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) Shortwave Radio Signals ?
 
On Jun 2, 3:46 am, wrote:
On Jun 1, 10:39 pm, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:

There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


Even with the link; it still makes little sense;

http://www.rfspace.com/sdriq.html

Why the hell don;t these guys tell us SDR stands for Software Defined
Receiver..

receiving Sonar and Sound ? Listening to Bats ?

- Why post here..

Who are these guys selling this thing to ?


The SDR-IQ :Software Defined Receiver" and Panoramic Adapter
http://www.rfspace.com/products.html
Coverage : 500 Hertz to 30 MHz
Modes : AM, WFM, USB, LSB, N-FM, DSB, CW & More
* All Digital - All Mode - "Plug & Play" Receiver
* Fully Adjustable DSP Filter Bandwidths
* Requires a PC for Power and Audio Output Processing
* Uses SpectraVue Software with a PC
http://www.rfspace.com/gallery.html
Offfered by RF Space .Com = http://www.rfspace.com/

Check-Out the SDR-IQ "Software Defined Receiver"
YAHOO GROUP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDR-IQ/

QUESTION - Does the RF-Space SDR-IQ "Software Defined Receiver"
process Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) Shortwave Radio Signals ?
DRM = http://www.drm.org/index.php
DRM RECEIVERS = http://www.drm.org/receiversequip/receiversequip.php

i want to know ~ RHF

Telamon June 3rd 07 04:56 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
In article .com,
Steve wrote:

On Jun 2, 7:03 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in
m...



"RF Caused By SDR-IQ" wrote in message
...
There is a new Yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/which may be of interest
to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The purpose of the group is
to exchange information about RFI caused by the SDR-IQ and how to reduce
or eliminate the RFI.


Is it interfering with itself or other devices.


If it is interfering with itself it is perhaps not surprising.
It is an interesting looking gadget but it is not a radio.
It has no front end. It is open to the whole 500 Hz
to 30 MHz all the time.


I take that back. The SDR-14 is known to have that
problem. The SDR-IQ block diagram shows some
front end filters.



If you have a strong AM broadcast
station near by or a ham or CBer in the neighborhood
their signal will override everything else. The SDR-IQ would
make a good IF/back end. Better results would be
obtained by connecting the SDR-IQ to the IF of another
receiver. Or by putting an RF preselector in front of it.


The TenTec RX-320D is about the same price but has a
real radio front end. Unfortunately the TenTec has
an RS232 rather than USB interface and the TenTec only
has a 12 kHz bandwidth.


--
rb- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


To me, the most striking thing about this little box is that it's
actually USB powered. So, it wouldn't require an independent power
supply or wall wart. That means you could run it off a battery powered
laptop after you lost power in a storm or something. I guess that's
kind of neat, but if it generates so much RFI that a new Yahoo group
has appeared just to discuss that fact, I wouldn't let this thing
anywhere near my house.


The purpose in life for this unit appears to be as a spectrum analyzer
not a radio receiver.

I'm sure if you put it in a good metal box with ferrite chokes on the
cables it would tame the RFI.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Steve June 3rd 07 05:53 AM

QUESTION - Does the RF-Space SDR-IQ "Software Defined Receiver" process Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) Shortwave Radio Signals ?
 
On Jun 2, 7:51 pm, RHF wrote:

QUESTION - Does the RF-Space SDR-IQ "Software Defined Receiver"
process Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) Shortwave Radio Signals ?
DRM =http://www.drm.org/index.php
DRM RECEIVERS =http://www.drm.org/receiversequip/receiversequip.php

i want to know ~ RHF



If it does process DRM, there might be some way to disable this
function. Or perhaps it's possible to control the radio using third
party software that is not encumbered by DRM.

Steve


Ron Baker, Pluralitas![_2_] June 3rd 07 06:59 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jun 2, 7:03 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in
m...



"RF Caused By SDR-IQ" wrote in message
...
There is a new Yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/which may be of interest


snipola


To me, the most striking thing about this little box is that it's
actually USB powered.


Yeah, USB is pretty cool.

So, it wouldn't require an independent power
supply or wall wart. That means you could run it off a battery powered
laptop after you lost power in a storm or something. I guess that's
kind of neat, but if it generates so much RFI that a new Yahoo group
has appeared just to discuss that fact, I wouldn't let this thing
anywhere near my house.


I'm skeptical about the OP. He never responded to any other
posts. I checked out that yahoo group when he first posted and
it had one member. Checking now, yahoo says the group
doesn't exist.

It is still probably healthy to maintain a little skepticism about
the SDR-IQ too. It reportedly has switchable lowpass
and highpass filters at 5 MHz and 15 MHz. It seems they
would cover most desensitization issues. The 5 MHz
highpass filter should prevent desense due to nearby lower
frequency broadcast band stations. But if you've got a ham
in the neighborhood who keys up on either 40 or 20 meters it
seems to me that could desense the SDR-IQ to
everything from 5 MHz to 15 MHz.

It's interesting.
I'll be watching the reviews and this group.

--
rb




Brenda Ann June 3rd 07 09:09 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 

"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in message
...

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jun 2, 7:03 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in
m...



"RF Caused By SDR-IQ" wrote in message
...
There is a new Yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/which may be of
interest


snipola


To me, the most striking thing about this little box is that it's
actually USB powered.


Yeah, USB is pretty cool.

So, it wouldn't require an independent power
supply or wall wart. That means you could run it off a battery powered
laptop after you lost power in a storm or something. I guess that's
kind of neat, but if it generates so much RFI that a new Yahoo group
has appeared just to discuss that fact, I wouldn't let this thing
anywhere near my house.


I'm skeptical about the OP. He never responded to any other
posts. I checked out that yahoo group when he first posted and
it had one member. Checking now, yahoo says the group
doesn't exist.

It is still probably healthy to maintain a little skepticism about
the SDR-IQ too. It reportedly has switchable lowpass
and highpass filters at 5 MHz and 15 MHz. It seems they
would cover most desensitization issues. The 5 MHz
highpass filter should prevent desense due to nearby lower
frequency broadcast band stations. But if you've got a ham
in the neighborhood who keys up on either 40 or 20 meters it
seems to me that could desense the SDR-IQ to
everything from 5 MHz to 15 MHz.

It's interesting.
I'll be watching the reviews and this group


Sounds very much like the front ends of most HF receivers. Both my Yaesu
FRG-7700 and my Kenwood HF transceiver have this type of rough bandpass
front end. I guess the days of tuned RF front ends have passed. I'm glad my
Grundig 600 has a preselector.



bm June 3rd 07 11:06 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
There are many SDRs available today; the Winradio G-series is possibly
the best known. The Flexradio SDR-1000 (now replaced) and the RF Space
SDR-14 and SDR-IQ have properties most other SDRs do not have; the
ability to record a large (up to 190 kHz) portion of the spectrum to a
PC hard drive. The recording can later be analyzed using different
demodulators, bandwidth settings etc.

Ordinary front end filtering is difficult to match with a 190 kHz
spectrum, hence one might need extra high-/lowpass filter or even
notch filters to avoid very strong signals.

The SDR-IQ does emit RFI on higher shortwave, masking very weak but
audible signals. I didn't know until I was informed about it but I
only use higher SW for listening to strong international stations.
There is no RFI on lower SW and MW. I don't know if this is also the
case with the SDR-14 and the Flexradio systems. For me the RFI is a
non-issue; for others it may be very important.

For me, the ability to record 19 MW channels into a file for later
analysis far outweighs the RFI and front end issues with the SDR-IQ.
Others may judge otherwise or have a more hostile RF environment.


Ron Baker, Pluralitas![_2_] June 3rd 07 08:22 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 

"bm" wrote in message
ups.com...
There are many SDRs available today; the Winradio G-series is possibly
the best known. The Flexradio SDR-1000 (now replaced) and the RF Space
SDR-14 and SDR-IQ have properties most other SDRs do not have; the
ability to record a large (up to 190 kHz) portion of the spectrum to a
PC hard drive. The recording can later be analyzed using different
demodulators, bandwidth settings etc.

Ordinary front end filtering is difficult to match with a 190 kHz
spectrum, hence one might need extra high-/lowpass filter or even
notch filters to avoid very strong signals.

The SDR-IQ does emit RFI on higher shortwave, masking very weak but
audible signals. I didn't know until I was informed about it but I
only use higher SW for listening to strong international stations.


So you have one. Interesting.

There is no RFI on lower SW and MW. I don't know if this is also the
case with the SDR-14 and the Flexradio systems. For me the RFI is a
non-issue; for others it may be very important.


Every radio has its birdies. My TS-440 probably has about 20.
And I always have my CRT computer monitor on which
puts out spurs spaced 63 kHz through half of the HF band.

I wonder how strong and wide the interference from the
SDR-IQ is. Maybe it is normal. Maybe it will be reduced
once they go through FCC certification and the boxed version
is available.


For me, the ability to record 19 MW channels into a file for later
analysis far outweighs the RFI and front end issues with the SDR-IQ.
Others may judge otherwise or have a more hostile RF environment.


Yeah, the SDR-IQ has a lot of good applications.

Checking the TS-440, it covers HF with 10 filters of
varying width. One filter selects 0.5 to 1.5 MHz.
So when tuned to MW the whole
band is coming through the front end filter at one time.
A serious MW DXer might consider a preselector even
with an old style receiver.

I looked at the digital receivers a while back and pretty
much decided that I would go with the RX-320D when
I could afford to lose a week playing with a new toy.
But the SDR-IQ looks like it could go to the top of
the list.

--
rb




Ron Baker, Pluralitas![_2_] June 3rd 07 09:17 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

snip


It is still probably healthy to maintain a little skepticism about
the SDR-IQ too. It reportedly has switchable lowpass
and highpass filters at 5 MHz and 15 MHz. It seems they
would cover most desensitization issues. The 5 MHz
highpass filter should prevent desense due to nearby lower
frequency broadcast band stations. But if you've got a ham
in the neighborhood who keys up on either 40 or 20 meters it
seems to me that could desense the SDR-IQ to
everything from 5 MHz to 15 MHz.

It's interesting.
I'll be watching the reviews and this group


Sounds very much like the front ends of most HF receivers. Both my Yaesu
FRG-7700 and my Kenwood HF transceiver have this type of rough bandpass
front end. I guess the days of tuned RF front ends have passed. I'm glad
my Grundig 600 has a preselector.


What kind of Kenwood do you have? I have
the TS-440. Hadn't thought about it before but
just read in the manual that it uses 10 filters to
cover HF. That is certainly better than the
SDR-IQ but it is conceivable that a
preselector would be advantagous with the
TS-440 is some situations.

There is a ham about a mile away that runs
25 W, PSK31, on 20 meters occasionally. When he
keys up everything else on my 3 kHz wide waterfall display
disappears. 20 meter falls in the range of the TS-440
10.5 to 14.5 MHz front end filter. I wonder if his
signal is desensing my receiver to everything in that
range. I'll have to check next time.

--
rb



Steve June 3rd 07 10:10 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
On Jun 3, 3:22 pm, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:
"bm" wrote in message

ups.com...

There are many SDRs available today; the Winradio G-series is possibly
the best known. The Flexradio SDR-1000 (now replaced) and the RF Space
SDR-14 and SDR-IQ have properties most other SDRs do not have; the
ability to record a large (up to 190 kHz) portion of the spectrum to a
PC hard drive. The recording can later be analyzed using different
demodulators, bandwidth settings etc.


Ordinary front end filtering is difficult to match with a 190 kHz
spectrum, hence one might need extra high-/lowpass filter or even
notch filters to avoid very strong signals.


The SDR-IQ does emit RFI on higher shortwave, masking very weak but
audible signals. I didn't know until I was informed about it but I
only use higher SW for listening to strong international stations.


So you have one. Interesting.

There is no RFI on lower SW and MW. I don't know if this is also the
case with the SDR-14 and the Flexradio systems. For me the RFI is a
non-issue; for others it may be very important.


Every radio has its birdies. My TS-440 probably has about 20.
And I always have my CRT computer monitor on which
puts out spurs spaced 63 kHz through half of the HF band.

I wonder how strong and wide the interference from the
SDR-IQ is. Maybe it is normal. Maybe it will be reduced
once they go through FCC certification and the boxed version
is available.



For me, the ability to record 19 MW channels into a file for later
analysis far outweighs the RFI and front end issues with the SDR-IQ.
Others may judge otherwise or have a more hostile RF environment.


Yeah, the SDR-IQ has a lot of good applications.

Checking the TS-440, it covers HF with 10 filters of
varying width. One filter selects 0.5 to 1.5 MHz.
So when tuned to MW the whole
band is coming through the front end filter at one time.
A serious MW DXer might consider a preselector even
with an old style receiver.

I looked at the digital receivers a while back and pretty
much decided that I would go with the RX-320D when
I could afford to lose a week playing with a new toy.
But the SDR-IQ looks like it could go to the top of
the list.

--
rb


The thing I'd be curious about is the software. I can't find anything
very descriptive of the software on the website. I suppose I could
download it, install it and play around with it, but I don't like to
install software on my system unless I really need it. Perhaps someone
who has used it can comment? I'd also like to know how many
commercial, third party control softwares could be used with this
receiver.

Steve


bm June 3rd 07 10:48 PM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
There's no problem downloading and installing Spectravue. Easy to
uninstall. There is a "Winrad" software too but no AM demod on it yet.
Don't think other programs can run the SDR-IQ or -14. DRM: Use 3rd
party software like Dream. Spectravue has a learning curve and is not
always intuitive.

The thing I'd be curious about is the software. I can't find anything
very descriptive of the software on the website. I suppose I could
download it, install it and play around with it, but I don't like to
install software on my system unless I really need it. Perhaps someone
who has used it can comment? I'd also like to know how many
commercial, third party control softwares could be used with this
receiver.

Steve




RHF June 4th 07 04:31 PM

? WHAT IS : A Software Defined Radio (SDR) ?
 
On Jun 4, 1:43 am, bm wrote:

- - Looks like they now have SDR Transceivers too ! ~ RHF

- Old news.
- SDR-1000 is discontinued,
- replaced with Flex-5000A
- at USD 2500.

BM - Yes it may be 'old news' but hey at least it was
"On Topic" -and- for me that's a plus :o) ~ RHF
-

BM - That would be the FlexRadio FLEX-5000A
High Performance Software Defined Radio and Transmitter
http://www.flex-radio.com/Products.a...c=F5Ka_details

* The FlexRadio FLEX-5000 Radio Features
http://www.flex-radio.com/Products.a...c=f5k_features

* Flex-Radio Support Knowledge Base
http://kb.flex-radio.com/?cNode=4N1V6W&pNodes=2O1N8M

* FLEX-5000 Transceiver Family FAQ
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10374

? WHAT IS : A Software Defined Radio (SDR) ?
? What are Software Defined Radios (SDRs) ?
FlexRadio Systems delivers the only truly 'open source'
SDR = http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=whatissdr
Software Defined Radio (SDR) Transceivers for Amateur Radio [Ham]

ABOUT - FlexRadio Systems - The Leader in
Software Defined Radios (SDRs) for Amateur Radio [Hams]
http://web.flex-radio.com/default.aspx

* The History of FlexRadio Systems
http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=history


just trying to be flexable in what i post ~ RHF

SWL-Radio June 7th 07 08:58 AM

"The SDR-1000 Blog Spot" - Mediumwave and Tropical Bands DXing with the FlexRadio SDR-1000 Radio
 
On Jun 4, 8:31 am, RHF wrote:
On Jun 4, 1:43 am, bm wrote:

- - Looks like they now have SDR Transceivers too ! ~ RHF

- Old news.
- SDR-1000 is discontinued,
- replaced with Flex-5000A
- at USD 2500.

BM - Yes it may be 'old news' but hey at least it was
"On Topic" -and- for me that's a plus :o) ~ RHF
-

BM - That would be the FlexRadio FLEX-5000A
High Performance Software Defined Radio and Transmitterhttp://www.flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=F5Ka_details

* The FlexRadio FLEX-5000 Radio Featureshttp://www.flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=f5k_features

* Flex-Radio Support Knowledge Basehttp://kb.flex-radio.com/?cNode=4N1V6W&pNodes=2O1N8M

* FLEX-5000 Transceiver Family FAQhttp://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10374

- ? WHAT IS : A Software Defined Radio (SDR) ?
- ? What are Software Defined Radios (SDRs) ?
- FlexRadio Systems delivers the only truly 'open source'
- SDR =http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=whatissdr
- Software Defined Radio (SDR) Transceivers for Amateur Radio [Ham]
-
- ABOUT - FlexRadio Systems - The Leader in
- Software Defined Radios (SDRs) for Amateur Radio [Hams]
- http://web.flex-radio.com/default.aspx
-
- * The History of Flex Radio Systems
- http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=history
-
- just trying to be flexable in what i post ~ RHF
- .
- .
- . .
-

Mediumwave and Tropical Bands DXing with the SDR-1000 Radio
from FlexRadio Systems - "The SDR-1000 Blog Spot"
SDR*1000 = www.sdr-1000.blogspot.com
-by- Guy Atkins - Puyallup, WA

* Software Defined Radio (SDR)

for those who are interested in a 'sdr' ~ RHF

RHF June 7th 07 09:04 AM

"The SDR-1000 Blog Spot" - Mediumwave (AM/MW) and Tropical Bands DXing with the FlexRadio SDR-1000 Radio
 
On Jun 4, 8:31 am, RHF wrote:
On Jun 4, 1:43 am, bm wrote:

- - Looks like they now have SDR Transceivers too ! ~ RHF

- Old news.
- SDR-1000 is discontinued,
- replaced with Flex-5000A
- at USD 2500.

BM - Yes it may be 'old news' but hey at least it was
"On Topic" -and- for me that's a plus :o) ~ RHF
-

BM - That would be the FlexRadio FLEX-5000A
High Performance Software Defined Radio and Transmitterhttp://www.flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=F5Ka_details

* The FlexRadio FLEX-5000 Radio Featureshttp://www.flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=f5k_features

* Flex-Radio Support Knowledge Basehttp://kb.flex-radio.com/?cNode=4N1V6W&pNodes=2O1N8M

* FLEX-5000 Transceiver Family FAQhttp://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10374


-
- ? WHAT IS : A Software Defined Radio (SDR) ?
- ? What are Software Defined Radios (SDRs) ?
- FlexRadio Systems delivers the only truly 'open source'
- SDR =http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=whatissdr
- Software Defined Radio (SDR) Transceivers for Amateur Radio [Ham]
-
- ABOUT - FlexRadio Systems - The Leader in
- Software Defined Radios (SDRs) for Amateur Radio [Hams]
- http://web.flex-radio.com/default.aspx
-
- * The History of Flex Radio Systems
- http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=history
-
- just trying to be flexable in what i post ~ RHF
- .
- .
- . .
-

READ - Mediumwave (AM/MW) and Tropical Bands DXing
with the SDR-1000 Radio from FlexRadio Systems

"The SDR-1000 Blog Spot"
SDR*1000 = www.sdr-1000.blogspot.com
-by- Guy Atkins - Puyallup, WA


* Software Defined Radio (SDR)


for those who are interested in a 'sdr' ~ RHF

RHF June 7th 07 09:40 AM

"The SDR-1000 Blog Spot" - Mediumwave (AM/MW) and Tropical Bands DXing with the FlexRadio SDR-1000 Radio
 
On Jun 7, 1:04 am, RHF wrote:
On Jun 4, 8:31 am, RHF wrote:





On Jun 4, 1:43 am, bm wrote:


- - Looks like they now have SDR Transceivers too ! ~ RHF


- Old news.
- SDR-1000 is discontinued,
- replaced with Flex-5000A
- at USD 2500.


BM - Yes it may be 'old news' but hey at least it was
"On Topic" -and- for me that's a plus :o) ~ RHF
-


BM - That would be the FlexRadio FLEX-5000A
High Performance Software Defined Radio and Transmitterhttp://www.flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=F5Ka_details


* The FlexRadio FLEX-5000 Radio Featureshttp://www.flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=f5k_features


* Flex-Radio Support Knowledge Basehttp://kb.flex-radio.com/?cNode=4N1V6W&pNodes=2O1N8M


* FLEX-5000 Transceiver Family FAQhttp://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10374


-
- ? WHAT IS : A Software Defined Radio (SDR) ?
- ? What are Software Defined Radios (SDRs) ?
- FlexRadio Systems delivers the only truly 'open source'
- SDR =http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=whatissdr
- Software Defined Radio (SDR) Transceivers for Amateur Radio [Ham]
-
- ABOUT - FlexRadio Systems - The Leader in
- Software Defined Radios (SDRs) for Amateur Radio [Hams]
-http://web.flex-radio.com/default.aspx
-
- * The History of Flex Radio Systems
-http://web.flex-radio.com/About.aspx?topic=history
-
- just trying to be flexable in what i post ~ RHF
- .
- .
- . .
-

READ - Mediumwave (AM/MW) and Tropical Bands DXing
with the SDR-1000 Radio from FlexRadio Systems

"The SDR-1000 Blog Spot"
SDR*1000 =www.sdr-1000.blogspot.com
-by- Guy Atkins - Puyallup, WA

* Software Defined Radio (SDR)

for those who are interested in a 'sdr' ~ RHF
.
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- Show quoted text -


More-to-Read - Related to the FlexRadio SDR-1000 Radio :

Winradio g313e and Flex-Radio SDR-1000 Compared
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...77a96a9ede154e

Flex-Radio SDR-1000 Update
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...71f4ec7c68344b

New Blog on TP MW and Tropical Band DXing with the Flex-Radio
SDR-1000
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f90affc99f786b
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...da46fc5c5fa13c

Posts about DXing with the Flex-Radio SDR-1000 -by- Guy Atkins
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...009fec44d499c8
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...635a5a8b6a4a1d
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f90affc99f786b
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...50cc7a43dad3b2
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...051b9b12c67995

flex it and relax with your radio ~ RHF

Pieter July 1st 07 06:42 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
On Jun 2, 3:24 am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message .com, RHF
writesOn Jun 1, 7:39 pm, "RF Caused BySDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase anSDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQand how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


The obvious solution is . . .
not to buy one. ~ RHF
.
.
. .


OK. What's 'SDR-IQ'?
Ian.
--


If anyone needs any information on the SDR-IQ or SDR-14 let me know. I
have both of them running here side by side with an IC-R9000, TS2000
and an IC-R8500. Not sure about what birdies people are talking about.
All of the birdies are in the range of -90 to -100 dBm. My TS-2000
has birdies that show up S9 on the meter. I guess a lot of people are
jumping to the conclusion that because it is simple on the front end,
it has to perform poorly. The analog to digital converters used in
these radios have equivalent IP3s of greater than 45 dBm. Also, there
is not one signal that I cannot hear on the SDR-14 or SDR-IQ that I
can hear on any of my other radios.

Pieter


[email protected] July 2nd 07 02:23 AM

RF Caused By SDR-IQ
 
On Jun 2, 3:39 am, "RF Caused By SDR-IQ"
wrote:
There is a new Yahoo grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/RFICausedBySDRIQ/
which may be of interest to those who own or may purchase an SDR-IQ. The
purpose of the group is to exchange information about RFI caused by the
SDR-IQ and how to reduce or eliminate the RFI.


The use of ferrites can be a big help to contain the RFI. Check out
W1HIS's break through
work on common mode chokes.
www.yccc.org/Articles/W1HIS/CommonModeChokesW1HIS2006Apr06.pdf
Like most USB accesories, the noise from the PC tends to migrate out
the
cables.

Dallas Lankford found that 6 turns of USB wound on 2 FT-42-83 reduced
the RFI to
acceptable levels. He is planning to add 6 (or more ) FT-240-43 which
should eliminate
RFI.

Dallas didn't mention it. but I suspect similar treatment will be
needed on the antenna
port.

From initial reports, the SDR-IQ is a winner and will become a

classic.

Terry





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