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Brenda Ann August 12th 07 01:11 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
From the Radio World trade publication:

http://www.rwonline.com/leslie_report/
Issue: Aug. 08, 2007

Mexico Says Hang on a Minute!

Mexico wants U.S. radio regulators to re-think their decision to allow
AMs to go IBOC at night and FMs to operate on the extended hybrid
digital carriers.

Our neighbors to the south say they are not happy the FCC authorized its
recent "final" IBOC rules governing broadcast transmissions without
first coordinating those through international treaties.

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in
Mexico, states that "until technical criteria" have been established
between the agencies to allow "optimal and efficient development of
analog and digital radio broadcasting along our common border," the
commission should hold off on the two points made earlier.

Sources tell me they believe Mexico filed the letter so it would have
standing in any proceeding on IBOC and to have a way to adjudicate
interference claims for the border area. Indeed, the group also refers
to possible interference from U.S. IBOC stations to Mexican stations as
a reason to have the coordination completed according to treaties first.

The FCC handles coordination with the State Department, so perhaps the
timing isn't all up to the FCC.

Interesting development. As we recently reported, Mexico has agreed in
principle to allow border stations to use FM IBOC, and that decision
needs to be finalized and printed in Mexico's version of the Federal
Register.



--
Say no to institutionalized interference.
Just say NO to HD/IBOC!



David Eduardo[_4_] August 12th 07 06:07 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in
Mexico,


In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should
know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation
regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico.



dxAce August 12th 07 09:43 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 


David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form,
I must be Hispanic", wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in
Mexico,


In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should
know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation
regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico.


Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce August 12th 07 03:15 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 


dxAce wrote:

David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form,
I must be Hispanic", wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in
Mexico,


In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should
know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation
regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico.


Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap.


I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm
calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for
HD/IBOC.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] August 12th 07 03:26 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
Mexico can take a Flying Jump too, for all I care.Mexico City is Sinking
and the sooner the better.There is an old underground drainage system
under Mexico City that might soon let go and swamp the City with about
thirty feet deep of nasty filthy dirty water.
cuhulin


m II August 12th 07 06:06 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
 
dxAcehole wrote:

I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm
calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for
HD/IBOC.



Couldn't resist the insult, could you, Bozo? Your first reply to him was
actually civil in tone. Did the alcohol kick in or is the non existent
Miami genes acting up?


Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada...







mike

dxAce August 12th 07 06:16 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
 


!'m a little Girl Guide II wrote:

dxAcehole wrote:

I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm
calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for
HD/IBOC.


Couldn't resist the insult, could you, Bozo? Your first reply to him was
actually civil in tone. Did the alcohol kick in or is the non existent
Miami genes acting up?

Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada...


That's right, 'tard boy, you're a dumbass Canuck.



m II August 12th 07 06:41 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
 
dxAcehole wrote:

Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada...


That's right, 'tard boy, you're a dumbass Canuck.



Sorry to hear about your incontinence. Are there any Native herbs and
medicines you could gather in your back yard?






mike

dxAce August 12th 07 06:51 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
 


!'m a shameless Canucky slut II wrote:

dxAcehole wrote:

Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada...


That's right, 'tard boy, you're a dumbass Canuck.



Sorry to hear about your incontinence.


Besides being a dumbass Canuck, you're hearing ain't so good.




David Eduardo[_4_] August 12th 07 07:14 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the
Census Form,
I must be Hispanic", wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications
in
Mexico,

In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you
should
know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation
regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico.


Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap.


I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed
technology"... I'm
calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision
shill for
HD/IBOC.


The fact is that more an more stations are adding HD, and it has actually
been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air.



David Eduardo[_4_] August 12th 07 07:16 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census
Form,
I must be Hispanic", wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications
in
Mexico,


In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should
know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation
regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico.


Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap.


The fact that the information is attributed to the entity that does not
(exist) and issue licenses makes the whole thing suspect; Mexico is
authorizing HD broadcasting and XHTY put it on the air two weeks ago.



David Eduardo[_4_] August 12th 07 07:22 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...

"in Mexico" those are the key words
If they don't care what transnational effects result from their policies
as long as the money flows, why should we care any more about the
reverse?
When Mexico darkens that international jamming station XLNC and allows
KPFK to disseminate an alternative to right wing corporate controlled
propaganda, then and only then will I regain any concern for Mexico.


KPFK is protected only to the extent of a conforming class B radio station.
Grandfathered "over power" or "over height" operations are not protected to
the extent of the actual contours, but to the extent of the contours of a
conforming station of the same class.

KPFK has no right to any coverage in the San Diego metro, and XHLNC is a
legally licensed station in conformance with the treaty matters concerning
border area broadcasting.

As an example, another grandfathered "Super B's" is KLVE 107.5 in LA, 29,000
watts on Mt. Wilson... it was a top 10 station in Santa Barbara's ratings.
But because all the coverage in that area was beyond that of a conforming
Class B, the FCC licensed a new station on the adjacent channel, 107.7, and
KLVE became unlistenable in Santa Barbara. This is because KLVE had no legal
right to that extended coverage.



dxAce August 12th 07 07:46 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 


a total dumbass wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the
Census Form,
I must be Hispanic", wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications
in
Mexico,

In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you
should
know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation
regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico.

Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap.


I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed
technology"... I'm
calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision
shill for
HD/IBOC.


The fact is that more an more stations are adding HD, and it has actually
been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air.


I'm not surprised that Mexico is exhibiting all the characteristics of
"Frackeltonian Thinking".



[email protected] August 12th 07 08:04 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
Come on doggy lets get off of this 7 by 14 concrete front porch, and get
back on your couch where it's hairconditioned.Les Stroud
(Survivorduddte) was on tv.If he was a girl, I might learn her a thangy
or tree)
cuhulin


[email protected] August 12th 07 08:42 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
Canadian Chicken **** COWARDS!!!!!!!
cuhulin, in MISSISSIPPI
www.devilfinder.com Mississippi Song

Crank your puter bolume up!


Telamon August 13th 07 02:26 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the
Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the
Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates
communications in Mexico,

In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you
should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and
Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure
issues in Mexico.


Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap.


I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed
technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of
'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC.


You are being to kind. He is way beyond that. Eduardo spouts pure BS.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon August 13th 07 02:28 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

a total dumbass wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the
Census Form,
I must be Hispanic", wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican
Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications
in
Mexico,

In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you
should
know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation
regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico.

Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap.

I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed
technology"... I'm
calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision
shill for
HD/IBOC.


The fact is that more an more stations are adding HD, and it has actually
been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air.


I'm not surprised that Mexico is exhibiting all the characteristics of
"Frackeltonian Thinking".


Troll thinking.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Stephanie Weil August 14th 07 04:16 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
but Mexico allows
international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory.
so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference.



I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is
licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it
blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is
irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego.

Besides, I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their
coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq.
They're supposedly shifting to 104.9 FM later this year and boosting
power, which will be a good thing as far as I'm concerned, since
XLNC-1 (the station's on-air name) is one of my favorite FM stations
out that way.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA


Stephanie Weil August 14th 07 04:19 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
On Aug 12, 2:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
[IBOC] has actually
been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air.


That's what I was wondering. But then again, can you imagine the mess
that would happen should a super-powered station like XERF/Ciudad
Acuña or XETRA/Rosarito were running IBOC? Yikes!

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA


John Smith I August 14th 07 04:29 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
Stephanie Weil wrote:

...
irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego.
...


Let's see XHLNC jam this:

http://www.kpfk.org/index.php?option...60&Item id=82

JS

[email protected] August 14th 07 07:07 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
I prefer to imagine if we NUKED Mexico!
cuhulin


John Smith I August 14th 07 07:39 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
wrote:
I prefer to imagine if we NUKED Mexico!
cuhulin


What? You've never enjoyed those ladies of the night south of the border?

Why in the heck would you waste that?

Regards,
JS

Stephanie Weil August 14th 07 08:49 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
On Aug 14, 2:03 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:

KPFK was there first, has been for many years.
XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado.


Even so, KPFK was not licenced to serve San Diego. If the yuk-yuks at
Pacifica Los Angeles want to be heard in San Diego, let them buy a
local channel and turn it into a relay for their 90.7 FM signal.

Stephanie (stuck in WBAI land) Weil
New York City, USA


[email protected] August 14th 07 08:50 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
I was in a U.S.Army Nike Nuclear Missiles outit in 1963.
cuhulin


Brenda Ann August 14th 07 11:44 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
but Mexico allows
international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory.
so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference.



I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is
licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it
blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is
irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego.


100,000 watt FM signals are not meant to cover only a single city, but a
very wide area. Most of the 100KW plants in Portland easily cover a 75 mile
radius (easily listenable on even the crappiest of Chinese Junk radios. One
thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit
whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping
coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).

The distance from the Mt. Wilson tower site to S.D. is only about 100 miles.
Given terrain and tower height, that's EASILY a listenable signal in S.D.




dxAce August 14th 07 11:51 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 


Brenda Ann wrote:

"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
but Mexico allows
international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory.
so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference.



I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is
licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it
blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is
irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego.


100,000 watt FM signals are not meant to cover only a single city, but a
very wide area. Most of the 100KW plants in Portland easily cover a 75 mile
radius (easily listenable on even the crappiest of Chinese Junk radios. One
thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit
whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping
coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).

The distance from the Mt. Wilson tower site to S.D. is only about 100 miles.
Given terrain and tower height, that's EASILY a listenable signal in S.D.


Good morning Brenda,

Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids,
Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM station in
the country.

Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock.

Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land) quite
easily.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Brenda Ann August 15th 07 12:02 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Good morning Brenda,

Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids,
Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM
station in
the country.

Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock.

Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land)
quite
easily.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


HO-LY JESUS!!! Where and how did they get an authorization for 320,000
WEIRP???? Last I saw, the limit was 100K!!

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...BCT&service=FM



dxAce August 15th 07 12:07 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 


Brenda Ann wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Good morning Brenda,

Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids,
Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM
station in
the country.

Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock.

Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land)
quite
easily.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


HO-LY JESUS!!! Where and how did they get an authorization for 320,000
WEIRP???? Last I saw, the limit was 100K!!

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...BCT&service=FM


No idea I guess.. their predecessors that played rock, even perhaps in the late
60's advertised that they were the most powerful station in the US of A.



[email protected] August 15th 07 12:52 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
www.devilfinder.com FM Radio Stations Jackson Mississippi

All of the Jackson metro area FM Radio stations around here come in loud
and clear.
cuhulin


David Eduardo[_4_] August 15th 07 12:56 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids,
Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM
station in
the country.

Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock.

Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land)
quite
easily.


Actually, there are two grandfathered stations in Grand Rapids. WOOD has
265,000 watts ERP and WBCT has 320,000 watts ERP. WOOD-FM is on 105.7 and
the other on 93.7. WBCT was originally put on by Fetzer, combining the aural
sections of two high band VHF TV transmitters, modified, to give nearly 500
kw ERP... but, at the time, only horizontal polarization.

Unfortunately, both have had their useful coverage reduced as they are only
protected to the contour of a conforming 50 kw at 500 foot class B FM. More
recent allocations limit the listenership area considerably.



David Eduardo[_4_] August 15th 07 12:59 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
but Mexico allows
international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory.
so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference.



I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is
licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it
blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is
irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego.


100,000 watt FM signals are not meant to cover only a single city, but a
very wide area. Most of the 100KW plants in Portland easily cover a 75
mile radius (easily listenable on even the crappiest of Chinese Junk
radios. One thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY
credit whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with
overlapping coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).

The distance from the Mt. Wilson tower site to S.D. is only about 100
miles. Given terrain and tower height, that's EASILY a listenable signal
in S.D.


But it is only protected to the 54 dbu contour of a conforming class B, the
equivalent of 50 kw at 500 feet. So, signal or not, it is not licensed to
serve San Diego at all.

Most of the LA stations have had cochannel or adjacents put on the "real but
not protected" countours in the last several decades.






David Eduardo[_4_] August 15th 07 01:04 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In ups.com
posted on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:16:57 -0700, Stephanie Weil wrote: Begin

I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their
coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq.


KPFK was there first, has been for many years.
XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado.


XHLNC (XLNC is not the call letter assignment) was licensed to Victor Diaz
Romo, who had a life long love of classical and wanted to offer the format
to SD and Tijuana. Diaz Romo (RIP) was the son of the founder of Radios
Comerciales, SA of Guadalajara, and his family goes back about 70 years in
radio in Mexico. At one point, they owned about 40 stations.

The Diaz family was associated with the liberal PRI party, by the way.



dxAce August 15th 07 01:09 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 


David "I pose as 'Eduardo' because I'm retarded, and couldn't come up with any
other shtick" wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In ups.com
posted on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:16:57 -0700, Stephanie Weil wrote: Begin

I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their
coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq.


KPFK was there first, has been for many years.
XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado.


XHLNC (XLNC is not the call letter assignment) was licensed to Victor Diaz
Romo, who had a life long love of classical and wanted to offer the format
to SD and Tijuana. Diaz Romo (RIP) was the son of the founder of Radios
Comerciales, SA of Guadalajara, and his family goes back about 70 years in
radio in Mexico. At one point, they owned about 40 stations.


Which would be 40 more than you ever owned!

I'm LMFAO, boy... you'd best have Hose-A or Hose-B get you some paperwork.



David Eduardo[_4_] August 15th 07 03:15 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand
Rapids,
Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM
station in
the country.

Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock.

Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land)
quite
easily.


Actually, there are two grandfathered stations in Grand Rapids. WOOD has
265,000 watts ERP and WBCT has 320,000 watts ERP. WOOD-FM is on 105.7 and
the other on 93.7. WBCT was originally put on by Fetzer, combining the
aural sections of two high band VHF TV transmitters, modified, to give
nearly 500 kw ERP... but, at the time, only horizontal polarization.

Unfortunately, both have had their useful coverage reduced as they are
only protected to the contour of a conforming 50 kw at 500 foot class B
FM. More recent allocations limit the listenership area considerably.


Amazingly, this evening I was driving around Brookfield, WI, listening to
WBCT on a pretty average car radio with a perfectly listenable signal. 105.7
was, however, not listenable due to other station interference.



David Eduardo[_4_] August 15th 07 07:09 AM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In posted on Tue, 14
Aug 2007 17:04:05 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


The Diaz family was associated with the liberal PRI party, by the way.


Was that back in the day of Jose Lopez Portillo, that saint?


No, that was back in the days of Miguel Aleman, López Mateos, Díaz Ordaz,
Ruíz Cortines and Manuel Avila... from the 40's into the 60's.

López was president in 1976.



Stephanie Weil August 15th 07 02:47 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
On Aug 14, 6:44 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
. One
thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit
whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping
coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).


Try 101.1 FM in New York vs. 101.1 FM in Philadelphia. If one is off
the air and you slightly adjust your antenna, you can pick up the
other. In certain areas of central New Jersey, they jam each other.

Same with 98.3 in New Brunswick, NJ and 98.3 in Hempstead, NY. I
remember as a kid slightly adjusting the power cord on what passed for
my "hi fi" (a Yorx all-in one record changer thing from the 1980s) and
being able to switch between either station.

So yeah, the FCC is very guilty of shortspacing frequencies,
especially in crowded areas like the North East.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA


Stephanie Weil August 15th 07 03:49 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
On Aug 15, 10:26 am, Bart Bailey wrote:

You were a kid in the 80s?


I was born in 1975. The scenario I just narrated took place in the
early 1990s (around 1992 or 93), so I was in my mid teens. The Yorx
stereo in question was someting I had found on the curb a couple
minutes after some lady brought it out of her apartment. I kind of
miss it -- it had everything I could want. Three-speed record
changer, 8-track player and cassette recorder and AM/FM radio.

That's an encouraging thought,
that today's youth, and you can't be otherwise,
are still interested in SW.


Well, I'm 31 now, so I wouldn't say I'm part of "today's youth". :)

--Stephanie


David Eduardo[_4_] August 15th 07 11:14 PM

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 14, 6:44 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
. One
thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit
whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping
coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).


Try 101.1 FM in New York vs. 101.1 FM in Philadelphia. If one is off
the air and you slightly adjust your antenna, you can pick up the
other. In certain areas of central New Jersey, they jam each other.

Same with 98.3 in New Brunswick, NJ and 98.3 in Hempstead, NY. I
remember as a kid slightly adjusting the power cord on what passed for
my "hi fi" (a Yorx all-in one record changer thing from the 1980s) and
being able to switch between either station.

So yeah, the FCC is very guilty of shortspacing frequencies,
especially in crowded areas like the North East.


Further, the coverage of grandfathered stations is not protected... just the
contour of a conforming station of that class.



Mark Zenier August 16th 07 12:40 AM

(OT) Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 
In article .com,
VK0DX wrote:

:))) very funny . Last free elections in USA it was Kennedy elections,
murdered later by regime security forces.


Yow, what have you been smoking?

Between the Daley Machine in Chicago, and the various fun and
games in Texas for favorite son LBJ, 1960 is in the top three for
the least likely example of an honest presidental election in
the 20th century.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)



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