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Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
From the Radio World trade publication:
http://www.rwonline.com/leslie_report/ Issue: Aug. 08, 2007 Mexico Says Hang on a Minute! Mexico wants U.S. radio regulators to re-think their decision to allow AMs to go IBOC at night and FMs to operate on the extended hybrid digital carriers. Our neighbors to the south say they are not happy the FCC authorized its recent "final" IBOC rules governing broadcast transmissions without first coordinating those through international treaties. In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, states that "until technical criteria" have been established between the agencies to allow "optimal and efficient development of analog and digital radio broadcasting along our common border," the commission should hold off on the two points made earlier. Sources tell me they believe Mexico filed the letter so it would have standing in any proceeding on IBOC and to have a way to adjudicate interference claims for the border area. Indeed, the group also refers to possible interference from U.S. IBOC stations to Mexican stations as a reason to have the coordination completed according to treaties first. The FCC handles coordination with the State Department, so perhaps the timing isn't all up to the FCC. Interesting development. As we recently reported, Mexico has agreed in principle to allow border stations to use FM IBOC, and that decision needs to be finalized and printed in Mexico's version of the Federal Register. -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap. dxAce Michigan USA |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
dxAce wrote: David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap. I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC. dxAce Michigan USA |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
Mexico can take a Flying Jump too, for all I care.Mexico City is Sinking
and the sooner the better.There is an old underground drainage system under Mexico City that might soon let go and swamp the City with about thirty feet deep of nasty filthy dirty water. cuhulin |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
dxAcehole wrote:
I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC. Couldn't resist the insult, could you, Bozo? Your first reply to him was actually civil in tone. Did the alcohol kick in or is the non existent Miami genes acting up? Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada... mike |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
!'m a little Girl Guide II wrote: dxAcehole wrote: I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC. Couldn't resist the insult, could you, Bozo? Your first reply to him was actually civil in tone. Did the alcohol kick in or is the non existent Miami genes acting up? Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada... That's right, 'tard boy, you're a dumbass Canuck. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
dxAcehole wrote:
Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada... That's right, 'tard boy, you're a dumbass Canuck. Sorry to hear about your incontinence. Are there any Native herbs and medicines you could gather in your back yard? mike |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to Aceholism
!'m a shameless Canucky slut II wrote: dxAcehole wrote: Awaiting your very predictable insult towards Canada... That's right, 'tard boy, you're a dumbass Canuck. Sorry to hear about your incontinence. Besides being a dumbass Canuck, you're hearing ain't so good. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"dxAce" wrote in message ... dxAce wrote: David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap. I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC. The fact is that more an more stations are adding HD, and it has actually been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap. The fact that the information is attributed to the entity that does not (exist) and issue licenses makes the whole thing suspect; Mexico is authorizing HD broadcasting and XHTY put it on the air two weeks ago. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... "in Mexico" those are the key words If they don't care what transnational effects result from their policies as long as the money flows, why should we care any more about the reverse? When Mexico darkens that international jamming station XLNC and allows KPFK to disseminate an alternative to right wing corporate controlled propaganda, then and only then will I regain any concern for Mexico. KPFK is protected only to the extent of a conforming class B radio station. Grandfathered "over power" or "over height" operations are not protected to the extent of the actual contours, but to the extent of the contours of a conforming station of the same class. KPFK has no right to any coverage in the San Diego metro, and XHLNC is a legally licensed station in conformance with the treaty matters concerning border area broadcasting. As an example, another grandfathered "Super B's" is KLVE 107.5 in LA, 29,000 watts on Mt. Wilson... it was a top 10 station in Santa Barbara's ratings. But because all the coverage in that area was beyond that of a conforming Class B, the FCC licensed a new station on the adjacent channel, 107.7, and KLVE became unlistenable in Santa Barbara. This is because KLVE had no legal right to that extended coverage. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
a total dumbass wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... dxAce wrote: David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap. I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC. The fact is that more an more stations are adding HD, and it has actually been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air. I'm not surprised that Mexico is exhibiting all the characteristics of "Frackeltonian Thinking". |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
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Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
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Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
In article ,
dxAce wrote: dxAce wrote: David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap. I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC. You are being to kind. He is way beyond that. Eduardo spouts pure BS. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
In article ,
dxAce wrote: a total dumbass wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... dxAce wrote: David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, "Hey, I checked that box on the Census Form, I must be Hispanic", wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... In a letter to Chairman Martin filed in the IBOC docket, the Mexican Federal Telecommunications Commission, which regulates communications in Mexico, In case this is any indication of the accuracy of the report, you should know that the SCT, Secretariat of Communications and Transportation regulates communications and many infrastructure issues in Mexico. Doesn't matter! Whoever is in charge knows that HD/IBOC is crap. I've decided to coin a new term describing a "belief in failed technology"... I'm calling it "Frackeltonian Thinking" in honour of 'Eduardo', head Univision shill for HD/IBOC. The fact is that more an more stations are adding HD, and it has actually been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air. I'm not surprised that Mexico is exhibiting all the characteristics of "Frackeltonian Thinking". Troll thinking. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
but Mexico allows international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory. so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference. I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego. Besides, I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq. They're supposedly shifting to 104.9 FM later this year and boosting power, which will be a good thing as far as I'm concerned, since XLNC-1 (the station's on-air name) is one of my favorite FM stations out that way. Stephanie Weil New York City, USA |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
On Aug 12, 2:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
[IBOC] has actually been authorized for use in Mexico, where multiple stations are on the air. That's what I was wondering. But then again, can you imagine the mess that would happen should a super-powered station like XERF/Ciudad Acuña or XETRA/Rosarito were running IBOC? Yikes! Stephanie Weil New York City, USA |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
Stephanie Weil wrote:
... irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego. ... Let's see XHLNC jam this: http://www.kpfk.org/index.php?option...60&Item id=82 JS |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
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Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
On Aug 14, 2:03 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
KPFK was there first, has been for many years. XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado. Even so, KPFK was not licenced to serve San Diego. If the yuk-yuks at Pacifica Los Angeles want to be heard in San Diego, let them buy a local channel and turn it into a relay for their 90.7 FM signal. Stephanie (stuck in WBAI land) Weil New York City, USA |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
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Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote: but Mexico allows international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory. so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference. I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego. 100,000 watt FM signals are not meant to cover only a single city, but a very wide area. Most of the 100KW plants in Portland easily cover a 75 mile radius (easily listenable on even the crappiest of Chinese Junk radios. One thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding). The distance from the Mt. Wilson tower site to S.D. is only about 100 miles. Given terrain and tower height, that's EASILY a listenable signal in S.D. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
Brenda Ann wrote: "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote: but Mexico allows international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory. so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference. I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego. 100,000 watt FM signals are not meant to cover only a single city, but a very wide area. Most of the 100KW plants in Portland easily cover a 75 mile radius (easily listenable on even the crappiest of Chinese Junk radios. One thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding). The distance from the Mt. Wilson tower site to S.D. is only about 100 miles. Given terrain and tower height, that's EASILY a listenable signal in S.D. Good morning Brenda, Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids, Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM station in the country. Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock. Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land) quite easily. dxAce Michigan USA |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Good morning Brenda, Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids, Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM station in the country. Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock. Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land) quite easily. dxAce Michigan USA HO-LY JESUS!!! Where and how did they get an authorization for 320,000 WEIRP???? Last I saw, the limit was 100K!! http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...BCT&service=FM |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
Brenda Ann wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Good morning Brenda, Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids, Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM station in the country. Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock. Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land) quite easily. dxAce Michigan USA HO-LY JESUS!!! Where and how did they get an authorization for 320,000 WEIRP???? Last I saw, the limit was 100K!! http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...BCT&service=FM No idea I guess.. their predecessors that played rock, even perhaps in the late 60's advertised that they were the most powerful station in the US of A. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
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Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids, Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM station in the country. Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock. Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land) quite easily. Actually, there are two grandfathered stations in Grand Rapids. WOOD has 265,000 watts ERP and WBCT has 320,000 watts ERP. WOOD-FM is on 105.7 and the other on 93.7. WBCT was originally put on by Fetzer, combining the aural sections of two high band VHF TV transmitters, modified, to give nearly 500 kw ERP... but, at the time, only horizontal polarization. Unfortunately, both have had their useful coverage reduced as they are only protected to the contour of a conforming 50 kw at 500 foot class B FM. More recent allocations limit the listenership area considerably. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote: but Mexico allows international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory. so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference. I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego. 100,000 watt FM signals are not meant to cover only a single city, but a very wide area. Most of the 100KW plants in Portland easily cover a 75 mile radius (easily listenable on even the crappiest of Chinese Junk radios. One thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding). The distance from the Mt. Wilson tower site to S.D. is only about 100 miles. Given terrain and tower height, that's EASILY a listenable signal in S.D. But it is only protected to the 54 dbu contour of a conforming class B, the equivalent of 50 kw at 500 feet. So, signal or not, it is not licensed to serve San Diego at all. Most of the LA stations have had cochannel or adjacents put on the "real but not protected" countours in the last several decades. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... In ups.com posted on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:16:57 -0700, Stephanie Weil wrote: Begin I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq. KPFK was there first, has been for many years. XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado. XHLNC (XLNC is not the call letter assignment) was licensed to Victor Diaz Romo, who had a life long love of classical and wanted to offer the format to SD and Tijuana. Diaz Romo (RIP) was the son of the founder of Radios Comerciales, SA of Guadalajara, and his family goes back about 70 years in radio in Mexico. At one point, they owned about 40 stations. The Diaz family was associated with the liberal PRI party, by the way. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
David "I pose as 'Eduardo' because I'm retarded, and couldn't come up with any other shtick" wrote: "Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... In ups.com posted on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:16:57 -0700, Stephanie Weil wrote: Begin I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq. KPFK was there first, has been for many years. XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado. XHLNC (XLNC is not the call letter assignment) was licensed to Victor Diaz Romo, who had a life long love of classical and wanted to offer the format to SD and Tijuana. Diaz Romo (RIP) was the son of the founder of Radios Comerciales, SA of Guadalajara, and his family goes back about 70 years in radio in Mexico. At one point, they owned about 40 stations. Which would be 40 more than you ever owned! I'm LMFAO, boy... you'd best have Hose-A or Hose-B get you some paperwork. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand Rapids, Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM station in the country. Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock. Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land) quite easily. Actually, there are two grandfathered stations in Grand Rapids. WOOD has 265,000 watts ERP and WBCT has 320,000 watts ERP. WOOD-FM is on 105.7 and the other on 93.7. WBCT was originally put on by Fetzer, combining the aural sections of two high band VHF TV transmitters, modified, to give nearly 500 kw ERP... but, at the time, only horizontal polarization. Unfortunately, both have had their useful coverage reduced as they are only protected to the contour of a conforming 50 kw at 500 foot class B FM. More recent allocations limit the listenership area considerably. Amazingly, this evening I was driving around Brookfield, WI, listening to WBCT on a pretty average car radio with a perfectly listenable signal. 105.7 was, however, not listenable due to other station interference. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... In posted on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:04:05 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin The Diaz family was associated with the liberal PRI party, by the way. Was that back in the day of Jose Lopez Portillo, that saint? No, that was back in the days of Miguel Aleman, López Mateos, Díaz Ordaz, Ruíz Cortines and Manuel Avila... from the 40's into the 60's. López was president in 1976. |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
On Aug 14, 6:44 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
. One thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding). Try 101.1 FM in New York vs. 101.1 FM in Philadelphia. If one is off the air and you slightly adjust your antenna, you can pick up the other. In certain areas of central New Jersey, they jam each other. Same with 98.3 in New Brunswick, NJ and 98.3 in Hempstead, NY. I remember as a kid slightly adjusting the power cord on what passed for my "hi fi" (a Yorx all-in one record changer thing from the 1980s) and being able to switch between either station. So yeah, the FCC is very guilty of shortspacing frequencies, especially in crowded areas like the North East. Stephanie Weil New York City, USA |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
On Aug 15, 10:26 am, Bart Bailey wrote:
You were a kid in the 80s? I was born in 1975. The scenario I just narrated took place in the early 1990s (around 1992 or 93), so I was in my mid teens. The Yorx stereo in question was someting I had found on the curb a couple minutes after some lady brought it out of her apartment. I kind of miss it -- it had everything I could want. Three-speed record changer, 8-track player and cassette recorder and AM/FM radio. That's an encouraging thought, that today's youth, and you can't be otherwise, are still interested in SW. Well, I'm 31 now, so I wouldn't say I'm part of "today's youth". :) --Stephanie |
Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 14, 6:44 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote: . One thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding). Try 101.1 FM in New York vs. 101.1 FM in Philadelphia. If one is off the air and you slightly adjust your antenna, you can pick up the other. In certain areas of central New Jersey, they jam each other. Same with 98.3 in New Brunswick, NJ and 98.3 in Hempstead, NY. I remember as a kid slightly adjusting the power cord on what passed for my "hi fi" (a Yorx all-in one record changer thing from the 1980s) and being able to switch between either station. So yeah, the FCC is very guilty of shortspacing frequencies, especially in crowded areas like the North East. Further, the coverage of grandfathered stations is not protected... just the contour of a conforming station of that class. |
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