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IBOCcrock September 14th 07 11:29 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

Boycott HD Radio!


Brenda Ann September 14th 07 12:20 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

Boycott HD Radio!


Couple good strong signals that should make it into CA on 1520. Both are
50KW. One is in Portland, OR, the other in OKC, OK. (there are places in
Portland where the local (actually licensed to Oregon City, with towers in
Clackamas) can be nulled and the OKC station can be heard.)




RHF September 14th 07 12:54 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 14, 3:29 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

Boycott HD Radio!


1520 kHz could have been KVTA-AM out of Ventura, CA

David Eduardo[_4_] September 14th 07 07:48 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:29:20 -0700, IBOCcrock
wrote:

WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

Boycott HD Radio!


1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.


You mean KOMA in its CHR days?



[email protected] September 15th 07 06:05 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 14, 4:20 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...





WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:


Narkspud wrote:


"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379


Boycott HD Radio!


Couple good strong signals that should make it into CA on 1520. Both are
50KW. One is in Portland, OR, the other in OKC, OK. (there are places in
Portland where the local (actually licensed to Oregon City, with towers in
Clackamas) can be nulled and the OKC station can be heard.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



I usually get 1520 from Portland Or. without any problem at my
location on Vancouver Island. Tonight the noise bands from KFBK are
obliterating 1520 and 1540. KFBK is coming in strongly as it usually
does.

This is the first time I have heard the digital hash and it sounds
like holding an electric shaver against my ear.

Bob


David September 15th 07 06:04 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.


CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

David Eduardo[_4_] September 15th 07 06:51 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.


CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.


CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.

CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.



David September 15th 07 09:19 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?

David Eduardo[_4_] September 15th 07 09:52 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It
has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?


Since Top 40 was invented (August of 1952) to today, the format has
reflected mass tastes... principally 18 to about 34 year olds (the format
was "invented" by watching a 30-something waitress playing the same songs
over and over on a jukebox). Other than crossovers, there have been few
country or jazz Top 40 hits. And, while Top 40 was AOR in the early 50's
(Gogi Grant, Perry Como, etc..) it dropped the MOR tunes almost entirely by
the late 50's to early 60's... and MOR itself morphed into AC, and today
there are many, many AC and CHR crossovers.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 16th 07 06:56 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:52:40 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It
has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?


Since Top 40 was invented (August of 1952) to today, the format has
reflected mass tastes... principally 18 to about 34 year olds (the format
was "invented" by watching a 30-something waitress playing the same songs
over and over on a jukebox). Other than crossovers, there have been few
country or jazz Top 40 hits. And, while Top 40 was AOR in the early 50's
(Gogi Grant, Perry Como, etc..) it dropped the MOR tunes almost entirely
by
the late 50's to early 60's... and MOR itself morphed into AC, and today
there are many, many AC and CHR crossovers.

And every one of them sucks. Music radio is good when intelligent DJs
pick their own music. Otherwise your pushing crap on **** eaters.


DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful, like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very rare.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 16th 07 07:57 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful, like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very
rare.

That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.


How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?



Steve September 16th 07 08:47 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 16, 2:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful, like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very
rare.


That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.


How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?


Very soon you will be in a position to answer your own question.


David September 16th 07 08:48 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful, like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very rare.

That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.

IBOCcrock September 16th 07 09:09 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 15, 1:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...





On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!


1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.


You mean KOMA in its CHR days?


No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.


CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.


Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.


CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.

CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Jesus - that crap on clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio makes me vomit - I
listen to my own "personalized" music on slacker.com. Most of the ****
on the HD channels is just vomit that stations don't want to run on
their main analog channels:

"HD Hypocrisy"

"Here's a few more reasons why only iBiquity and a few clueless radio
group heads could make a big thing out of HD radio tagging... The very
damn radio stations that broadcast in HD offer no programming worth
listening to. HD Radio is a virtual sewer of formats owners don't want
on their terrestrial frequencies and other assorted garbage that no
one sane would listen to -- let alone spend money for new radios --
tagging or not."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...hypocrisy.html

"And the good ideas keep on coming..."

"So let me understand this... HD radio has been reduced to being a
storefront for iTunes? So I listen to my HD radio, tag the songs I
like, download them to my iPod, and listen to my iPod rather than my
HD radio, right?"

http://www.hear2.com/2007/09/and-the....html#comments


Steve September 16th 07 09:57 PM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 16, 4:09 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 15, 1:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"David" wrote in message


.. .


On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!


1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.


You mean KOMA in its CHR days?


No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.


CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.


Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.


CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.


CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Jesus - that crap on clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio makes me vomit - I
listen to my own "personalized" music on slacker.com. Most of the ****
on the HD channels is just vomit that stations don't want to run on
their main analog channels:



That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".


IBOCcrock September 17th 07 12:05 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 16, 4:57?pm, Steve wrote:
On Sep 16, 4:09 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:





On Sep 15, 1:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


"David" wrote in message


.. .


On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!


1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.


You mean KOMA in its CHR days?


No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.


CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.


Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.


CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.


CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Jesus - that crap on clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio makes me vomit - I
listen to my own "personalized" music on slacker.com. Most of the ****
on the HD channels is just vomit that stations don't want to run on
their main analog channels:


That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Is HD Radio Worth It?"

"HD radio is nothing more than polishing a turd. Any fidelity gain is
crushed by the fact that they'll still compress the **** out of
already over-compressed music to make it louder than the next station
on the dial."

http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007853.html

No ****! Hey look, Eduardo!


David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 12:13 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 16, 2:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful,
like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the
same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very
rare.


That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.


How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?


Very soon you will be in a position to answer your own question.


Hardly. Our audiences are growing.



Steve September 17th 07 12:17 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 14, 6:29 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

Boycott HD Radio!


I had to laugh when I read this comment:

"WABC 770 HD is on tonight..but fading in and out just 1 mile outside
Queens on long Island."


David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 12:21 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
oups.com...
. The very
damn radio stations that broadcast in HD offer no programming worth
listening to. HD Radio is a virtual sewer of formats owners don't want
on their terrestrial frequencies and other assorted garbage that no
one sane would listen to -- let alone spend money for new radios --
tagging or not."


In the markets where stations provide digital versions of their main analog
signal as well as multicasting in some instances, radio reaches in excess of
95% of all persons.

You may not find anything you like, but most people do.

Going back to the Pulse and Hooper and Trendex surveys of the 50's, there
has always been a percentage of folks who do not use radio... about 5% in
the last 40 years on average, and another 6% to 7% that are very light
users. So nothing, really, has changed at all.



dxAce September 17th 07 12:21 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 16, 2:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful,
like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the
same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very
rare.

That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.

How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?


Very soon you will be in a position to answer your own question.


Hardly. Our audiences are growing.


Illegals?



David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 12:22 AM

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"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".


Sorry, you are lying.

I used that term, and I used it in reference to the entire future of AM,
with or without HD.



dxAce September 17th 07 12:25 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".


Sorry, you are lying.


You'd certainly know about lying!


David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 12:27 AM

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"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...


I had to laugh when I read this comment:

"WABC 770 HD is on tonight..but fading in and out just 1 mile outside
Queens on long Island."


September is the month when it is very common for AM anomalies to occur. I
can recall... at about 20 miles from its transmitter... WTAM being
obliterated by a 10 kw Venezuelan about 2000 miles away... and having
Colombians and Venezuelans near-dominating many of the clears and even
channels like 1370 bringing in low-power Venezuelans... plus the ABC island
split frequencies, like Kelkboom on 1435, hetting the US adjacents.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 12:28 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 16, 2:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not
go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat
successful,
like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the
same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very,
very
rare.

That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.

How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?

Very soon you will be in a position to answer your own question.


Hardly. Our audiences are growing.


Illegals?


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors. Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should make
apparent..



Steve September 17th 07 12:30 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 16, 7:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ups.com...





On Sep 16, 2:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message


. ..


On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful,
like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the
same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very
rare.


That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.


How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?


Very soon you will be in a position to answer your own question.


Hardly. Our audiences are growing.- Hide quoted text -

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It's smaller by 5% in just the last year.


David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 12:31 AM

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"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 7:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Hardly. Our audiences are growing.- Hide quoted text -

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It's smaller by 5% in just the last year.


That is not true, at all.



dxAce September 17th 07 12:38 AM

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 2:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not
go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat
successful,
like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the
same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very,
very
rare.

That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.

How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?

Very soon you will be in a position to answer your own question.


Hardly. Our audiences are growing.


Illegals?


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors. Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should make
apparent..


Generally? Hell, they seem to participate in every other damn thing in the good
ol' USofA.

They have fake documents for this, fake documents for that, and I even hear that
the little rascals vote!

I say toss 'em, and YOU as well.

Back to Ecuador with your sorry Chifako ass.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 12:45 AM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors.
Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should
make
apparent..


Generally? Hell, they seem to participate in every other damn thing in the
good
ol' USofA.

They have fake documents for this, fake documents for that, and I even
hear that
the little rascals vote!

I say toss 'em, and YOU as well.


Illegal immigrants don't participate in ratings and other research precisely
because of this... ratings require revealing address, family size, ages,
income, etc. Someone who is illegal will not do this in most cases.



dxAce September 17th 07 12:50 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors.
Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should
make
apparent..


Generally? Hell, they seem to participate in every other damn thing in the
good
ol' USofA.

They have fake documents for this, fake documents for that, and I even
hear that
the little rascals vote!

I say toss 'em, and YOU as well.


Illegal immigrants don't participate in ratings and other research precisely
because of this... ratings require revealing address, family size, ages,
income, etc. Someone who is illegal will not do this in most cases.


Hell, they even come out and march in demonstrations, right in the open.

Who the hell are you trying to bull****, Mr. Bull****?



David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 01:00 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors.
Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should
make
apparent..

Generally? Hell, they seem to participate in every other damn thing in
the
good
ol' USofA.

They have fake documents for this, fake documents for that, and I even
hear that
the little rascals vote!

I say toss 'em, and YOU as well.


Illegal immigrants don't participate in ratings and other research
precisely
because of this... ratings require revealing address, family size, ages,
income, etc. Someone who is illegal will not do this in most cases.


Hell, they even come out and march in demonstrations, right in the open.

Who the hell are you trying to bull****, Mr. Bull****?


This has been proven by Arbitron and Nielsen; you do not have ot show ID to
march. And the "authorities" like ICE are not going to start checking IDs in
a march with thousands of persons; it could be interpreted on constitutional
grounds (right of free assembly) and could cause violence.





dxAce September 17th 07 01:06 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors.
Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should
make
apparent..

Generally? Hell, they seem to participate in every other damn thing in
the
good
ol' USofA.

They have fake documents for this, fake documents for that, and I even
hear that
the little rascals vote!

I say toss 'em, and YOU as well.

Illegal immigrants don't participate in ratings and other research
precisely
because of this... ratings require revealing address, family size, ages,
income, etc. Someone who is illegal will not do this in most cases.


Hell, they even come out and march in demonstrations, right in the open.

Who the hell are you trying to bull****, Mr. Bull****?


This has been proven by Arbitron and Nielsen; you do not have ot show ID to
march. And the "authorities" like ICE are not going to start checking IDs in
a march with thousands of persons; it could be interpreted on constitutional
grounds (right of free assembly) and could cause violence.


Awwww... a bunch of your illegal listeners getting their heads cracked.

Cry me a rio!

You make less sense than a dumbass Canuck.



RHF September 17th 07 01:17 AM

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On Sep 16, 4:28 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...







David Eduardo wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Sep 16, 2:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message


. ..


On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:15 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not
go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat
successful,
like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the
same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very,
very
rare.


That's when the magic happens. Otherwise it's just trained monkeys
reading blue cards.


How "magic" is it if nobody shows up?


Very soon you will be in a position to answer your own question.


Hardly. Our audiences are growing.


Illegals?


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors. Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should make
apparent..- Hide quoted text -

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Point-of-Fact - d'Eduardo 'logic makes it apparent'
that you are Counting Illegal Aliens from Mexico;
the vast majority of only Speak Spanish; as a
Captive Group of Listeners for your Radio Stations.

d'Eduardo in your World of Sellable Numbers :
Illegal Aliens from Mexico count more than
American Citizens who are DXers. ~ RHF

RHF September 17th 07 01:19 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 16, 4:45 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...







No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors.
Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should
make
apparent..


Generally? Hell, they seem to participate in every other damn thing in the
good
ol' USofA.


They have fake documents for this, fake documents for that, and I even
hear that
the little rascals vote!


I say toss 'em, and YOU as well.


Illegal immigrants don't participate in ratings and other research precisely
because of this... ratings require revealing address, family size, ages,
income, etc. Someone who is illegal will not do this in most cases.


d'Eduardo - DOH !
So just may be they LIE :
After all they Broke the Law
to Get Here ~ RHF

RHF September 17th 07 01:24 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 16, 5:00 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...







David Eduardo wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, good programming that reduces the audience of our competitors.
Illegals
generally don't participate in radio ratings, a fact that logic should
make
apparent..


Generally? Hell, they seem to participate in every other damn thing in
the
good
ol' USofA.


They have fake documents for this, fake documents for that, and I even
hear that
the little rascals vote!


I say toss 'em, and YOU as well.


Illegal immigrants don't participate in ratings and other research
precisely
because of this... ratings require revealing address, family size, ages,
income, etc. Someone who is illegal will not do this in most cases.


Hell, they even come out and march in demonstrations, right in the open.


Who the hell are you trying to bull****, Mr. Bull****?


This has been proven by Arbitron and Nielsen; you do not have ot show ID to
march.


- And the "authorities" like ICE are not going to start checking IDs
- in a march with thousands of persons; it could be interpreted on
- constitutional grounds (right of free assembly) and could cause
- violence.

The Are Illegal Aliens - NOT US CITIZENS
- They Have No Rights [.]

They Can Freely Assembe and Start Walking Back To Mexico.

Plus - We Need To Change Our US Constitution
Like Canada Did - ASAP ~ RHF

RHF September 17th 07 01:34 AM

IBOC Crock - Are You Shilling For "Slacker.Com" ?
 
On Sep 16, 1:09 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 15, 1:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"David" wrote in message


.. .


On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!


1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.


You mean KOMA in its CHR days?


No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.


CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.


Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.


CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.


CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.- Hide quoted text -


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Jesus - that crap on clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio makes me vomit - I
listen to my own "personalized" music on slacker.com. Most of the ****
on the HD channels is just vomit that stations don't want to run on
their main analog channels:

"HD Hypocrisy"

"Here's a few more reasons why only iBiquity and a few clueless radio
group heads could make a big thing out of HD radio tagging... The very
damn radio stations that broadcast in HD offer no programming worth
listening to. HD Radio is a virtual sewer of formats owners don't want
on their terrestrial frequencies and other assorted garbage that no
one sane would listen to -- let alone spend money for new radios --
tagging or not."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...hypocrisy.html

"And the good ideas keep on coming..."

"So let me understand this... HD radio has been reduced to being a
storefront for iTunes? So I listen to my HD radio, tag the songs I
like, download them to my iPod, and listen to my iPod rather than my
HD radio, right?"

http://www.hear2.com/2007/09/and-the...html#comments- Hide quoted text -

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IBOC Crock,

There you go again promoting "Slacker.Com" !

NOTE - "Slacker.Com" is an Internet Alternative
Sound Source to Free-Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio,

ITIOFD - "In The Interest Of Full Disclosure" - IBOC Crock :
Do You Own An Stock, Options, or Interests in "Slacker.Com" ?

IBOC Crock - Are You Shilling For "Slacker.Com" ?

IBOC Crock - Are you Spamming the Rec.Radio.Shortwave
Newsgroup for "Slacker.Com" ?

we (i) have the right to know ~ RHF

RHF September 17th 07 01:40 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
On Sep 16, 4:17 pm, Steve wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:29 am, IBOCcrock wrote:





WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:


Narkspud wrote:


"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379


Boycott HD Radio!


I had to laugh when I read this comment:

"WABC 770 HD is on tonight..but fading in and out just 1 mile outside
Queens on long Island."- Hide quoted text -

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IBOC should not Fade - It should Drop-Out

There It Is {Digital Sound} - Oops No It Ain't {Silence}

There It Is Again {Digital Sound} - Oops No It Ain't Again {Silence}

Except where there is both the Analog and Digital Signal
There It Is {Digital Sound} - Oops No It's Fading Analog Again . . .

David Eduardo[_4_] September 17th 07 02:04 AM

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"RHF" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 5:00 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

The Are Illegal Aliens - NOT US CITIZENS
- They Have No Rights [.]


Actually, everyone inside our borders has rights.



D Peter Maus September 17th 07 06:02 AM

AM is dead thanks to iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance!
 
David Eduardo wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 5:00 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

The Are Illegal Aliens - NOT US CITIZENS
- They Have No Rights [.]


Actually, everyone inside our borders has rights.




Not true on it's face, David.


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