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[email protected] October 7th 07 12:34 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
On Oct 6, 5:22?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
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wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


That was your hope. Stop projecting your absurd ideas and feelings on
other people.


I am telling you the radio broadcast industry opinion, the opinion of the
major broadcasters who invested in iBiquity, the NAB, the FCC and many
others. All of us are concerned with the approaching obsolescence of AM...
even investors, as each AM decline will force potential write-downs of the
asset values of the goodwill of each AM.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


AM news/talk/sports is alive and well, it is the music FMs that are
screwwed because of other music media, such as iPods - IBNOC will not
help either band.


RHF October 7th 07 12:38 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
On Oct 6, 8:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

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Smokey wrote:


From QRZ.COM:


As of October 2, Citadel Broadcasting, the parent company of ABC Radio
network, has instructed all 10 of its AM affiliates who had already
converted to IBOC, to cease night time use of the digitial modulation
scheme, citing many complaints from listeners. Some complaints came from
listeners OF the IBOC-modulated stations, while others came from
listeners
of adjacent channel stations, that were being interferred with due to the
IBOC bandwidth. Citadel Director of Engineering Marty Stabbert, in a
memo
to his staff said, ""In response to the lackluster performance, the
limited
benefit and various reports of significant interference, Citadel is
suspending nighttime AM HD operations at this time. Please reinstate your
previous procedures for daytime-only HD operation as soon as possible."
Stabbert says he will attempt to work with Ibiquity, the company that
developed the wide-band digital AM modulation scheme to see if there is a
way to overcome the many problems encountered. Daytime IBOC for the
ABC
network affiliates is not affected at this time.


ABC & Citadel are much more intelligent broadcasters than are the folks at
Univision Radio.


There is no ABC radio; Citadel bought the ABC stations and operates the
network with rights to the name.


d'Eduardo - Where are you Numbers to Prove this Statement ? ~ RHF

[email protected] October 7th 07 12:41 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
On Oct 6, 5:33?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...





On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message


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wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


"Because of lackluster performance, limited benefit, and reports of
significant interference to other stations, please reinstitute daytime-
only procedures for IBOC-AM...."


You forgot something, dirtbag!


No, nothing is forgotten. Without a technology advance, AM is on its way
out. When AM listening is now below 10% in many smaller markets, and does
not exceed 20% anywhere (SF, where the market definition is based on the
coverage of three AMs), the issue is that any inability to get HD going,
technically, via marketing, etc., has doomed the AM band in the US:- Hide quoted text -

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Your whole industry will be obsolete in 15 years:

"AM, FM Radio Predicted to End in 15 Years"

"The next 15 years will be the demise of terrestrial radio as we know
it and the rise of the extraterrestrial," he said. Just as Vaudeville
gave way to movies and horses to the automobile, he said, radio will
be overtaken by gadgets that serve people's needs more efficiently."

http://tinyurl.com/345lck




Telamon October 7th 07 12:53 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


wrote:

Is that bad news for Eduardo?

Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.

It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


That was your hope. Stop projecting your absurd ideas and feelings on
other people.


I am telling you the radio broadcast industry opinion, the opinion of the
major broadcasters who invested in iBiquity, the NAB, the FCC and many
others. All of us are concerned with the approaching obsolescence of AM...
even investors, as each AM decline will force potential write-downs of the
asset values of the goodwill of each AM.


You do not speak for the industry. You speak for yourself. This is your
opinion Mr. Pretender.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon October 7th 07 12:56 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:

Is that bad news for Eduardo?

Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.

It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


You know Goddamn well this is bad news, because others surely will
follow - there is NOTHING iNiquity can do to change the laws of
physics - if ther ewas, something would have been done before Sept.
14th.


Then the bad news is for AM... its obsolescence is now assured. I'll bet, if
the night issue is either real or is not reparable, that a decent LA AM, for
example, has probably lost $8 to $10 million in stick value because of the
fact that there may be no future at all for them.


Nope, it's bad news for you. The AM stations affected by this last bad
night time experiment probably cost many money though.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon October 7th 07 12:56 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
In article .com,
Steve wrote:

On Oct 6, 5:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...





On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message


...


wrote:


Is that bad news for Eduardo?


Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.


It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


You know Goddamn well this is bad news, because others surely will
follow - there is NOTHING iNiquity can do to change the laws of
physics - if ther ewas, something would have been done before Sept.
14th.


Then the bad news is for AM... its obsolescence is now assured. I'll bet, if
the night issue is either real or is not reparable, that a decent LA AM, for
example, has probably lost $8 to $10 million in stick value because of the
fact that there may be no future at all for them.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'd rather listen to static than to your idiotic babble.


You noticed a difference?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon October 7th 07 12:57 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 6, 1:56?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



wrote:

Is that bad news for Eduardo?

Just getting up in the morning and having to fake it through another
day
is bad
news for 'Eduardo'.

It's not good or bad news. It is one company which wants to further study
and maybe request modifications of night HD. What the bad news is has to
do
with the declining and ageing listenership of AM... HD was a hope that
had a
slim chance of reversing this.


"Because of lackluster performance, limited benefit, and reports of
significant interference to other stations, please reinstitute daytime-
only procedures for IBOC-AM...."

You forgot something, dirtbag!


No, nothing is forgotten. Without a technology advance, AM is on its way
out.


Snip

I think you are on your way out.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] October 7th 07 02:48 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 6, 5:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message


If its obsolescence is assured, it's people like you who assured it.
You wasted valuable time giving AM a digital facelift when what it
needed was programming angioplasty.


There is no mass appeal programming other than talk that works on AM
because the quality sucks so badly for the ear of the last two generations
of Americans who came of age when FM was the dominant band. Any "solution"
that does not fix the audio problem is going to fail... and the US will go
the way of Canada, Austria, South Africa and many other nations where AM is
being reduced, phased out or eliminated. Even nations like Ecuador and Chile
and Panama have severely reduced the number of AMs over the last decade or
so, because they are irrelevant to anyone under 45 or 50.



David Eduardo[_4_] October 7th 07 02:56 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Edtardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Awwww... poor little fake boy with the fake amateur license!


You are a jingoist xenophobe, who does not realize that in many places in
the world, particularly 40 to 50 years ago, a test was not a requirement
for
a ham license.


Absolutely pathological... there is no record of you ever having a valid
amateur
radio license!


There is no record of lots of things in less developed countries. So what?

When I was offered a general manager's job in Mexico City in the 70's, I
pointed out that I was not a born Mexican citizen, as the law required. The
owner said that this was not even a minor issue, and explained that many
equivalents of the county courthouse had burnt down, been destroyed, etc.,
since my date of birth, and he would find one; sworn statements by residents
of the locality would be accepted as proof of birth and, thus, citizenship.
Voila! Instant citizen.

Of course, you think that Ecuador had a test for ham licenses in the 60's.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha h. That's funny.



RHF October 7th 07 03:05 AM

ABC pulls plug on nightime IBOC
 
On Oct 6, 6:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Oct 6, 5:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message


If its obsolescence is assured, it's people like you who assured it.
You wasted valuable time giving AM a digital facelift when what it
needed was programming angioplasty.


There is no mass appeal programming other than talk that works on AM
because the quality sucks so badly for the ear of the last two generations
of Americans who came of age when FM was the dominant band. Any "solution"
that does not fix the audio problem is going to fail... and the US will go
the way of Canada, Austria, South Africa and many other nations where AM is
being reduced, phased out or eliminated. Even nations like Ecuador and Chile
and Panama have severely reduced the number of AMs over the last decade or
so, because they are irrelevant to anyone under 45 or 50.


d'Eduardo, and what-you-say is Irrelevant to anyone in
this Newsgroup over Age 50 to 55 and beyond. ~ RHF


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