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[email protected][_2_] October 21st 07 12:07 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 

Have an Icom R-75;

- wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000

whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000

any lists out there ?


?


[email protected][_2_] October 21st 07 12:25 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
On Oct 20, 8:18 pm, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:07:08 -0700, "

wrote:

Have an Icom R-75;


- wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000


whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000


any lists out there ?


?


2-way radios, remote control toys, cheezy wireless devices in general,
and a TV channel.


- So why the hell they put it in there ?

( Sounds like a total waste of time . . )



The Shadow[_2_] October 21st 07 12:44 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 

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Have an Icom R-75;

- wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000

whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000

any lists out there ?


?

See FCC Spectrum chart URL:
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/Chp04Chart.pdf

Since it is a VHF range, generally it is line of sight.
Coupla of services come to mind

1. Amateur band -- 50 to 54 Mhz sometimes Hams experience Sporadic E
propagation for long range skip contacts. But most often it is line of sight
either simplex or repeaters. Modes for Hams are CW, SSB, AM, FM, Data

Channel 2 of the USA TV band is here -- 54- 60 MHz

Since it is a VHF band, can't imagine any "broadcasting" there except
Channel 2 TV
Other services here - cordless phones around 43 to 49 Mhz, Fast food Freq,
For others see URL's:
http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/genfreq.html

http://www.dxing.com/scanfreq.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/scanner/frequency.html
Lamont


John Kasupski October 21st 07 12:54 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:07:08 -0700, "
wrote:


Have an Icom R-75;

- wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000

whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000

any lists out there ?


These frequencies are VHF (as opposed to shortwave) and what you're
going to hear there usually depends primarily on where you live. I say
"usually" because low VHF signals do tend to skip around when
conditions are right.

This slice of spectrum will primarily yield two-way communications in
the FM mode, rather than broadcasting - the exception being TV channel
2 (54-60 MHz). The territory from 30-60 MHz also includes the six
meter ham band (50-54 MHz),

While most folks would probably use a scanner to listen down here,
typically scanners operate in FM and maybe AM mode. Hams and others
wanting to listen to SSB, CW, and digital signals in the 6m ham band
would need a receiver such as the R-75 or a ham transceiver for that.

Also, as I mentioned above, low VHF signals often tend to skip around
a lot, and a good communications receiver such as the R-75 can be a
better tool for catching low-VHF DX than a typical scanner.

As for frequency lists, this again depends on where you live - you
might try RadioReference.com or Google up some other scanner frequency
list for wherever you are.

Hope this helps,

John Kasupski, KC2HMZ
Contributing Editor (Utility Communications)
Popular Communications Magazine


John Kasupski October 21st 07 12:58 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:25:04 -0700, "
wrote:

On Oct 20, 8:18 pm, David wrote:
wrote:
whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000


any lists out there ?


?


2-way radios, remote control toys, cheezy wireless devices in general,
and a TV channel.


- So why the hell they put it in there ?

( Sounds like a total waste of time . . )


There's also a ham band from 50-54 MHz where CW, SSB, and digital
modes are regularly used. Typical consumer-grade scanners, which
operate mainly in FM and maybe AM modes, are pretty much useless for
monitoring those signals. You need either a ham transceiver, or a good
communications receiver such as the R-75, for that.

JK


David October 21st 07 01:18 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:07:08 -0700, "
wrote:


Have an Icom R-75;

- wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000

whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000

any lists out there ?


?

2-way radios, remote control toys, cheezy wireless devices in general,
and a TV channel.

dxAce October 21st 07 10:03 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 


" wrote:

Have an Icom R-75;

- wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000

whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000

any lists out there ?

?


At times when propagation is good you just might find some interesting harmonics
of SWBC stations above 30 MHZ.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



RHF October 21st 07 10:19 AM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
On Oct 20, 4:07 pm, " wrote:
- Have an Icom R-75;
-
- - wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000
-
- whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000
-
- any lists out there ?
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- ?

BarnegatDX,

Allocation of Radio Spectrum in the United States
http://www.jneuhaus.com/fccindex/spectrum.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_waves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum

Shortwave Radio Bands 3 MHz to 30 MHz are consider
the High Frequency (HF) Radio Bands.
http://www.jneuhaus.com/fccindex/10_khz.html#3_MHz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave

Above that is the 30 MHz to 328.6 MHz Very High Frequency Bands
http://www.jneuhaus.com/fccindex/30_mhz.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_high_frequency

USA {North American} Six Metre (6m) Band Plan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_meter...n_6m_Band_Plan
* 50 MHz - 54 MHz - Amateur Radio - Six Metre (6m) Band
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_meters

AC6V's Guide to Ham Radio Frequencies
and General Frequency Listening
http://www.ac6v.com/frequencies.htm

iane ~ RHF

Eric Ferguson October 21st 07 02:14 PM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
dxAce...The California Highway Patrol (CHP) is very active between 42 & 43
Mhz, as well as some freqs in the 39 Mhz range, and some in the 46 Mhz
range. Also activities in the higher VHF ranges. 154.905 is a great freq as
it is the car to portable repeater. If you hear that, you're within 5 miles
of a cruiser g. Keep the CHP freqs going when I drive on the freeways.
Hasn't kept me from getting a ticket one time (oh well....), but it makes
for informative and interesting listening while driving. Hope this helps
everyone.....Eric



dxAce October 21st 07 02:53 PM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 


Bob Miller wrote:

At the bottom of the sunspot cycle, you won't hear much in the way of
international broadcasts of anything in this range.

During the summertime you may occasionally hear ham band openings in
the low 50 mhz range. I've heard the California Highway Patrol is
still around 42 mhz, but that may be rumor; that'd take a pretty big
whip antenna. Around 56 mhz and up you'll hear TV stations, channel 2
and up.


Here are a few apparently still in use:

California Highway Patrol
{CHP}
("56" = West Valley Office)
-base teal 42.3600 WPAE678 CTCSS 192.8
-mobile teal 42.7800 WPAE678 CTCSS 192.8

("78" = Newhall Office)
("130" = Castaic Inspection Facility)
-repeater lime-4 39.9200 42.2800 WNFY237 CTCSS 136.5
-base (old) tan 42.4200 WNFY237 CTCSS 192.8
-mobile (old) tan 42.8400 WNFY237 CTCSS 192.8

("98" = Altadena Office)
-base brown 42.5000 KJP457 CTCSS 192.8
-mobile brown 42.8200 KJP457 CTCSS 192.8

Info from : http://www.n6lhv.net/valleyscan.html#federal

A pretty lengthy listing there, for the Greater San Fernando Valley.




Telamon October 21st 07 08:06 PM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

" wrote:

Have an Icom R-75;

- wondered why it tunes all the way up to 60,000

whats broadcast in the frequencies between 30,000 & 60,000

any lists out there ?

?


At times when propagation is good you just might find some
interesting harmonics of SWBC stations above 30 MHZ.


And I also recall hearing the California Highway Patrol up in that
region as well when the 'skip' is in. I've hooked up my scanner to
the 200' W-E wire and had excellent reception. I'm not certain if
they use the low band anymore or not, but it was always interesting
listening.


Oh yeah, they still use those frequencies. There is a number of
frequencies used in the 40 - 60MHz range every day. You can still see
the long whips on the patrol cars.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] October 21st 07 09:50 PM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 
200 W-E wire? What is that? I own two Radio Shack hand held scanners.One
of them is a Pro-91.I don't remember what the other one is, it is a 16
channer scanner though.
cuhulin


dxAce October 21st 07 11:17 PM

Whats between 30 000 & 60.000 on SW ?
 


wrote:

200 W-E wire? What is that?


A wire that is fed at its west end and runs 200' to the east.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



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