Grundig G5's clock
 

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

Grundig G5's clock
 

On Jan 1, 10:00*pm, Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF

Grundig G5's clock
 

Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

Quartz clocks suck. They wander all over the place.

Grundig G5's clock
 

My Kaito 1103 (the same circuitry as the G5) also has an unreliable clock,
and others have complained about the Degen 1103 as well--the manufacturer
might have spent a few more cents on the clock chip.

"Greg" wrote in message
...
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

Grundig G5's clock
 

RHF wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
.

But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael

Grundig G5's clock
 

On Jan 1, 11:00*pm, Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

I have a G5, and I like it very much, but yes I have been having
problems qwith the clock as, it seems to gain time on my radio as
well. But I really like the SSB and fine tuning, which works similar
to a BFO. Have you had any problems with images? As the radio is
only dual conversion.
Fred Burgess

Grundig G5's clock
 

On Jan 2, 1:00*am, Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

As with yours, the clock in my Degen gains a minute in slightly over
a week. That's abysmal performance for a quartz timed clock although
it would be spot on for a Rolex chronometer.

Grundig G5's clock
 

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Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

You can't expect a quartz controlled computer clock to maintain atomic
time accuracy.

Every time you startup or restart you can have the computer query an
Internet time server. If you keep the computer on all the time open the
date and time control panel and un-check then check the "set date and
time automatically" to get the computer to update from the server.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Grundig G5's clock
 

msg wrote:
RHF wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
.

But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael

I don't know of any clocks that synchronize automatically to WWV or CHU.
As far as I know there's WWVB and a station in Germany.

The cheapest most accurate clocks are the ones that use the AC mains for
a timebase.

Grundig G5's clock
 

On Jan 2, 8:43*am, msg wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
*.

But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael

MSG,

My Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radios default to WWV
on 10.000 MHz when they lose Power. -but- They Do Not
have an Automatic 'Atomic' Clock Setting or Reseting Function.
Nice if that were so... But It Ain't.

That being said, I would agree with you that at a certain "Price
Point"; all Shortwave Radios should; as you suggest have an
Automated 'Atomic' Clock Setting and Re-setting Feature.

some day may be -but- not today ~ RHF

Every Day Accurate-to-the-Minute Clocks in our Lives
 

On Jan 3, 6:14*am, David wrote:
msg wrote:
RHF wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
*.

But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael

- I don't know of any clocks that synchronize automatically
- to WWV or CHU.
-* As far as I know there's WWVB and a station in Germany.
-
- The cheapest most accurate clocks are the ones that use
- the AC mains for a timebase.


David,

Yes - Once the 'common' Home Clock that is Powered by the
AC Mains is Manually Set : They are Accurate-to-the-Minute :
Day-in and Day-out [.]

And . . . IMHO for Day-to-Day Living - Accurate-to-the-Minute
Is Good Enough !

More Every Day Accurate-to-the-Minute Clocks in our Lives :

* Home Computer Clocks - Self-Setting

* Telephone and Celphone Clocks - Self-Setting

* Cable TV "Set-Top-Box" Clocks - Self-Setting

* The Clock you "See" on the TV - Self-Setting

* The Top-of-the-Hour (TOH) "'Tone" you Hear on the Radio
be it AM -or- FM -or- even a Shortwave Radio Broadcast.

CLOCKS - We Take them for Granted -but- They Are There
Day-after-Day : Accurate-to-the-Minute


i am sure there are a few more to add to the list ~ RHF

Grundig G5's clock
 

On Jan 3, 9:14*am, David wrote:
msg wrote:
RHF wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?

Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
*.

But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.

Regards,

Michael

I don't know of any clocks that synchronize automatically to WWV or CHU.

There are lots of clocks and watches that synch to the local time
standard. In the USA it would be the 60khz signal from the NIST. I
believe it is WWVB that sends the signal and not WWV but the
difference is not relevant.


* As far as I know there's WWVB and a station in Germany.

The cheapest most accurate clocks are the ones that use the AC mains for
a timebase.

Actually the clocks with the most accurate display would be those that
synchronize daily with a time standard. That would include Atomic
(radio) Clocks and PC Clocks.

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Grundig G5's clock
 

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David wrote:

msg wrote:
RHF wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:

I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.

I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?


Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
.

But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.


I don't know of any clocks that synchronize automatically to WWV or CHU.
As far as I know there's WWVB and a station in Germany.

The cheapest most accurate clocks are the ones that use the AC mains for
a timebase.

Oh yeah. Missed the obvious here. You should be able to find software
utilities that connect to web sites with atomic clocks. That would be
best. There might even be some free utilities that query time servers.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Grundig G5's clock
 

RHF wrote:
On Jan 2, 8:43 am, msg wrote:

My Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radios default to WWV
on 10.000 MHz when they lose Power.

My Drake SW2 does that, too.

Every Day Accurate-to-the-Minute Clocks in our Lives
 

RHF wrote:
On Jan 3, 6:14 am, David wrote:
msg wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:00 pm, Greg wrote:
I must be incredibly nerdy, because I spent 10 minutes the other day
getting my new G5's clock to click over at the exact moment the minute
tone on the WWV station began.
I've noticed, however, that after a few hours the minute clicks over
before the tone, and in fact after a day, up to 4 or 5 seconds. Has
anyone else noticed the G5's clock not being very accurate?
Greg - It's a 'portable' AM-FM Shortwave Radio
-not- a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. ~ RHF
.
But it should be; I feel that _any_ clock in a SW rcvr that is also
used for controlling the rig should be radio controlled. The chipsets
are so cheap now that cost is really not an excuse. Since the clock
is embedded in a rcvr, the mcu could select the source WWVB, WWV, CHU,
etc. as propagation dictates.
Regards,
Michael
- I don't know of any clocks that synchronize automatically
- to WWV or CHU.
- As far as I know there's WWVB and a station in Germany.
-
- The cheapest most accurate clocks are the ones that use
- the AC mains for a timebase.


David,

Yes - Once the 'common' Home Clock that is Powered by the
AC Mains is Manually Set : They are Accurate-to-the-Minute :
Day-in and Day-out [.]

And . . . IMHO for Day-to-Day Living - Accurate-to-the-Minute
Is Good Enough !


.

They are accurate to the second,on average. They might speed up for a
while, but then they slow down to compensate (and vice versa).

The Drake R8B clock synchronizes to the power lines, as do many alarm
clocks.

Grundig G5's clock
 

Radioguy wrote:

There are lots of clocks and watches that synch to the local time
standard. In the USA it would be the 60khz signal from the NIST. I
believe it is WWVB that sends the signal and not WWV but the
difference is not relevant.

Not relevant? How so? The FCC would fine them if they misidentified so
there is at least some relevance on some level.

As far as I know there's WWVB and a station in Germany.

The cheapest most accurate clocks are the ones that use the AC mains for
a timebase.

Actually the clocks with the most accurate display would be those that
synchronize daily with a time standard. That would include Atomic
(radio) Clocks and PC Clocks.

Find me a PC for under $10. Same for an atomic watch. And there are
many PCs that wander 10 seconds or more between NTP updates. The
traditional synchronous clock is the champion for staying on the correct
time the best over an extended period of time, without a reset of some kind.

Try to pay attention sparky. The thread is about quartz clocks being sucky.