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David Mills January 3rd 08 04:03 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!

David



Art Harris January 3rd 08 04:15 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
David Mills wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!


Well, the best external shortwave antennas are pretty simple and made
of ordinary wire. Try a 50 to 100 foot length of 14 gauge stranded
wire. Home Depot might be a better option.

http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Antennas/Shortwave/

Art Harris N2AH


Radioguy January 3rd 08 07:42 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
On Jan 3, 11:03*am, "David Mills" wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas?



Possibly because their shortwave radios come with antennas already
built in.


perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!

David


Unless you want to continue getting the same answer over and over it
is not a good idea to continue asking the same question over the next
several years. Have you browsed the paper catalog or their website?

Their portable antennna-on-a-reel was a pretty good deal. Beyond that
their offerings of HF antennas was pretty limited as I remember.

But as Art notes, a perfectly good shortwave antenna can be made for
next to nothing.

[email protected][_2_] January 3rd 08 08:56 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
On Jan 3, 11:03 am, "David Mills" wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!

David


Try Universal radio

http://www.universal-radio.com/


Scott Nelson January 4th 08 02:59 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
Shortwave is dying. Why would any store want to carry what's dead?
Only the occasional pocket protector guy is looking for shortwave antennas.

Streaming audio from the international broadcasters is where it's at.
Come on get into the 21st century -- computers, wi-fi, gps. You are
looking for Dixie cups and string.

Phoon Hencman wrote:
On 2008-01-03 11:03:13 -0500, "David Mills" said:

I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one
might
hope!

David



Radio Shack hires idiots. Go elsewhere, the net has lots of shortwave
stuff.


RHF January 4th 08 03:17 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
On Jan 3, 8:03*am, "David Mills" wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!

David


DM - You Win Todays "Light Bulb Award" for this Bright-Idea :
There is No Longer any 'Radio' in _ _ _ _ _Shack} ~ RHF

RHF January 4th 08 03:36 AM

Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) Antennas and RadioShack.Com - WhatAbout It ?
 
On Jan 3, 12:56*pm, " wrote:
On Jan 3, 11:03 am, "David Mills" wrote:

I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!


David

-
- Try Universal radio
-
- http://www.universal-radio.com/
-

Yes - Universal-Radio.Com is a good plase to start your Quest
for a Good Ready-Made Shortwave Listening (SWL Antenna.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant.html

Check-Out these three Shortwave Listening (SWL Antennas :

Alpha Delta DX-SWL Sloper Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/0799.html

Antenna Supermarket Eavesdropper Sloper Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/0013.html

Par Electronics End-Fed Dipole Shortwave Listener (EF-SWL) Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2205.html
Rig it as an Inverted "L" Antenna 15 Feet Vertical-Up-Leg
with a 30 Feet Horizontal-Out-Arm

Remember - Besides an Antenna you also need a RadioShack
Ground and that is usually best done with an 8 Foot Ground
Rod driven directly into the earthen ground soil; with a ground
wire to your radio shack.


enjoy listening to your shortwave radio -and- remember to . . .
keep your antenna-up - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}

Scott Nelson January 4th 08 01:11 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
It always amuses me when someone can't come up with anything intelligent
to say they always use the old "go post someplace else" routine. Are
you the kid who always said, "I'm taking my toys and going home"?



Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

No, I just know a dead horse when I see it.

Technology evolves. Radio was a great technology. WAS. 8-track tapes
were better than sliced bread back in the 60s and 70s. Time marches on.

I love listening to international broadcasters. I have a Wi-Fi system
setup and it streams to my stereo. The BBC never sounded so good. I
can easily record the shows digitally if I like and transfer them to an
Ipod or other MP3 player.

Look at the progress that's been made in the last 5 years with computer
technology. It won't be long and handheld wifi devices will be every
where and cars will be equipped with internet radios.

You can string out all the longwire you want. More power to you. The
only problem is that there won't be anything to listen to.


How wonderful. Go post someplace else.


Scott Nelson January 4th 08 01:13 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
Wow. Judging by your, and I use the term lightly, "intelligent" remarks
I must have hit a nerve. When people have no argument, they attack the
person instead of the issue. You just proved my point.

Chill out and go listen to the static.

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

Phoon Hencman wrote:
On 2008-01-03 11:03:13 -0500, "David Mills" said:

I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one
might
hope!

Radio Shack hires idiots. Go elsewhere, the net has lots of shortwave
stuff.

Shortwave is dying. Why would any store want to carry what's dead?


Same reason a moron would post this drivel to rec.radio.shortwave

Only the occasional pocket protector guy is looking for shortwave antennas.


And you are a highly paid supermarket stock boy.

Streaming audio from the international broadcasters is where it's at.
Come on get into the 21st century -- computers, wi-fi, gps. You are
looking for Dixie cups and string.


Yeah, you go key-clown. Why not get together with David and take a few a
few hits off the pipe. It will all be better then.


Barry in Wyoming January 4th 08 01:20 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
I have been using a Par EF-SWL for about two years for my "bedroom
listening post." It is not as good as my roof top G5RV, especially in
the lower MW area, but it is just about as good on 1.7 to 30 MHz. It
is easy to string up and rugged. And Dale Parfitt gives great
customer service!

I've even used it for a little bit of low power transmitting.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2205.html

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3707?page=2

Barry
WT7T




David[_5_] January 4th 08 02:46 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
Art Harris wrote:
David Mills wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!


Well, the best external shortwave antennas are pretty simple and made
of ordinary wire. Try a 50 to 100 foot length of 14 gauge stranded
wire. Home Depot might be a better option.

http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Antennas/Shortwave/

Art Harris N2AH


14 g is pretty thick for a wire antenna. I use ca. 20 g.

Radioguy January 4th 08 03:12 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
On Jan 3, 10:54*pm, Scott Nelson
wrote:
No, I just know a dead horse when I see it.

Technology evolves. *Radio was a great technology. *WAS. *8-track tapes
were better than sliced bread back in the 60s and 70s. *Time marches on.

I love listening to international broadcasters. *I have a Wi-Fi system
setup and it streams to my stereo. *The BBC never sounded so good. *I
can easily record the shows digitally if I like and transfer them to an
Ipod or other MP3 player.

Look at the progress that's been made in the last 5 years with computer
technology. *It won't be long and handheld wifi devices will be every
where and cars will be equipped with internet radios.

You can string out all the longwire you want. *More power to you. *The
only problem is that there won't be anything to listen to.


Now that is unusual. With a 30 inch whip antenna I was able to hear
lots of stations on shortwave last night. You need to do less writing
on the internet and more real listening.

Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.

dxAce January 4th 08 05:19 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 


David wrote:

Art Harris wrote:
David Mills wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!


Well, the best external shortwave antennas are pretty simple and made
of ordinary wire. Try a 50 to 100 foot length of 14 gauge stranded
wire. Home Depot might be a better option.

http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Antennas/Shortwave/

Art Harris N2AH


14 g is pretty thick for a wire antenna. I use ca. 20 g.


Be a man! I use 10 g.



David[_5_] January 4th 08 06:14 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
Radioguy wrote:


Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.


Especially if you're a George Noory/Ian Punit [sic] fan.

David[_5_] January 4th 08 06:16 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
dxAce wrote:

David wrote:

Art Harris wrote:
David Mills wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one might
hope!
Well, the best external shortwave antennas are pretty simple and made
of ordinary wire. Try a 50 to 100 foot length of 14 gauge stranded
wire. Home Depot might be a better option.

http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Antennas/Shortwave/

Art Harris N2AH

14 g is pretty thick for a wire antenna. I use ca. 20 g.


Be a man! I use 10 g.



I'd rather be a retard, if a man be you.

Radioguy January 4th 08 10:47 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
On Jan 4, 1:14*pm, David wrote:
Radioguy wrote:

Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. *DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.


Especially if you're a George Noory/Ian Punit [sic] fan.


Have no idea who those people are. The Canadian MW stations are a
nice catch.

Telamon January 5th 08 03:19 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:


Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

No, I just know a dead horse when I see it.

Technology evolves. Radio was a great technology. WAS. 8-track tapes
were better than sliced bread back in the 60s and 70s. Time marches on.

I love listening to international broadcasters. I have a Wi-Fi system
setup and it streams to my stereo. The BBC never sounded so good. I
can easily record the shows digitally if I like and transfer them to an
Ipod or other MP3 player.

Look at the progress that's been made in the last 5 years with computer
technology. It won't be long and handheld wifi devices will be every
where and cars will be equipped with internet radios.

You can string out all the longwire you want. More power to you. The
only problem is that there won't be anything to listen to.


How wonderful. Go post someplace else.

It always amuses me when someone can't come up with anything intelligent
to say they always use the old "go post someplace else" routine. Are
you the kid who always said, "I'm taking my toys and going home"?


When someone can't think at all they come up with off topic drivel.

Go post someplace else if shortwave radio does not interest you idiot.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 5th 08 03:23 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

Phoon Hencman wrote:
On 2008-01-03 11:03:13 -0500, "David Mills" said:

I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one
might
hope!

Radio Shack hires idiots. Go elsewhere, the net has lots of shortwave
stuff.
Shortwave is dying. Why would any store want to carry what's dead?


Same reason a moron would post this drivel to rec.radio.shortwave

Only the occasional pocket protector guy is looking for shortwave antennas.


And you are a highly paid supermarket stock boy.

Streaming audio from the international broadcasters is where it's at.
Come on get into the 21st century -- computers, wi-fi, gps. You are
looking for Dixie cups and string.


Yeah, you go key-clown. Why not get together with David and take a few a
few hits off the pipe. It will all be better then.

Wow. Judging by your, and I use the term lightly, "intelligent" remarks
I must have hit a nerve. When people have no argument, they attack the
person instead of the issue. You just proved my point.

Chill out and go listen to the static.

Judging by your worthless remarks you have no interest in the newsgroup
and you are just a Trolling moron. Go find a news group that matches
your interests. I'm sure such a novel concept never occurred to you
before before but go with it anyway.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 5th 08 03:25 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article , David
wrote:

dxAce wrote:

David wrote:

Art Harris wrote:
David Mills wrote:
I have been to radio shack several times over the years inquiring about
antennas for short wave radios. I always get a rather blank response and
they never seem to have anything. They sell shortwave radios...so why
not
sell good external antennas? perhaps Radio Shack isn't as good as one
might
hope!
Well, the best external shortwave antennas are pretty simple and made
of ordinary wire. Try a 50 to 100 foot length of 14 gauge stranded
wire. Home Depot might be a better option.

http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Antennas/Shortwave/

Art Harris N2AH

14 g is pretty thick for a wire antenna. I use ca. 20 g.


Be a man! I use 10 g.



I'd rather be a retard, if a man be you.


It looks to most people that you got your wish.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Scott Nelson January 5th 08 04:37 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
I couldn't agree more.

David wrote:
Radioguy wrote:


Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.


Especially if you're a George Noory/Ian Punit [sic] fan.


Scott Nelson January 5th 08 04:39 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
Then maybe YOU should listen more to the radio than typing on the internet.

Radioguy wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:14 pm, David wrote:
Radioguy wrote:

Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.

Especially if you're a George Noory/Ian Punit [sic] fan.


Have no idea who those people are. The Canadian MW stations are a
nice catch.


Scott Nelson January 5th 08 04:40 AM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
Can't you afford a laptop?

Rusty Nutsack wrote:
On 2008-01-04 10:12:04 -0500, Radioguy said:

On Jan 3, 10:54 pm, Scott Nelson
wrote:
No, I just know a dead horse when I see it.

Technology evolves. Radio was a great technology. WAS. 8-track ta

pes
were better than sliced bread back in the 60s and 70s. Time marches on.



I love listening to international broadcasters. I have a Wi-Fi system
setup and it streams to my stereo. The BBC never sounded so good. I
can easily record the shows digitally if I like and transfer them to an
Ipod or other MP3 player.

Look at the progress that's been made in the last 5 years with computer
technology. It won't be long and handheld wifi devices will be every
where and cars will be equipped with internet radios.

You can string out all the longwire you want. More power to you. The


only problem is that there won't be anything to listen to.


Now that is unusual. With a 30 inch whip antenna I was able to hear
lots of stations on shortwave last night. You need to do less writing
on the internet and more real listening.

Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.



When his power goes out he'll go masturbate while we still listen....


dxAce January 5th 08 01:35 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 


Scott Nelson wrote:

Are you in denial or what? Don't believe everything your mother tells
you. If you have listened to SW for any length of time you will notice
that stations are going off SW. If they haven't left yet, they have cut
their schedules down and probably will do so soon.


So, beat the rush and get the hell off of RRS, you f00kin retard.



Scott Nelson January 5th 08 01:49 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
Great argument. I can tell you were on the debate team in school.

I think you have proven why brothers and sisters shouldn't have kids.

Phoon Hencman wrote:
On 2008-01-05 00:08:51 -0500, Scott Nelson
said:

Are you in denial or what? Don't believe everything your mother tells
you. If you have listened to SW for any length of time you will
notice that stations are going off SW. If they haven't left yet, they
have cut their schedules down and probably will do so soon.

Look at the radio selections. Back in the eighties every one of the
major radio companies offered numerous models. Now what's available?
People are buying the old stuff because one, it worked great, and two,
the selection of new SW radios is dwindling.

Art Bell and the like have ruined AM for DX listening. I like Coast
to Coast and all that but it is on every other station on the dial.
It used to be fun to tune into those distant stations and listen to
their unique programming. That isn't the case anymore.

Ask your mom if you can get rid of the WebTV and get a real computer
with broadband access. Your shortwave radio will collect dust when
you hear how good it can really sound. BPL might be available in your
area or your trailer park may have wi-fi access. Maybe the wi-fi will
be free and that will leave you with more money for other cool ****.
Go ahead, ask your mom. I bet she'll do it.



Blah blah blah, I got chunks of guys like you in my stool. Have a seat,
you're clueless.



Phoon Hencman wrote:

Blah blah blah, "shortwave is dying". We've heard that for MANY
YEARS. Go sit down.




dxAce January 5th 08 01:53 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 


Scott Nelson wrote:

Great argument. I can tell you were on the debate team in school.

I think you have proven why brothers and sisters shouldn't have kids.


As if your mother and father didn't prove it already!



Phoon Hencman wrote:
On 2008-01-05 00:08:51 -0500, Scott Nelson
said:

Are you in denial or what? Don't believe everything your mother tells
you. If you have listened to SW for any length of time you will
notice that stations are going off SW. If they haven't left yet, they
have cut their schedules down and probably will do so soon.

Look at the radio selections. Back in the eighties every one of the
major radio companies offered numerous models. Now what's available?
People are buying the old stuff because one, it worked great, and two,
the selection of new SW radios is dwindling.

Art Bell and the like have ruined AM for DX listening. I like Coast
to Coast and all that but it is on every other station on the dial.
It used to be fun to tune into those distant stations and listen to
their unique programming. That isn't the case anymore.

Ask your mom if you can get rid of the WebTV and get a real computer
with broadband access. Your shortwave radio will collect dust when
you hear how good it can really sound. BPL might be available in your
area or your trailer park may have wi-fi access. Maybe the wi-fi will
be free and that will leave you with more money for other cool ****.
Go ahead, ask your mom. I bet she'll do it.



Blah blah blah, I got chunks of guys like you in my stool. Have a seat,
you're clueless.



Phoon Hencman wrote:

Blah blah blah, "shortwave is dying". We've heard that for MANY
YEARS. Go sit down.





Billy Burpelson January 5th 08 03:27 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
David wrote:

14 g is pretty thick for a wire antenna. I use ca. 20 g.


Well, whatever works for you.

However, the 14 ga has much more mechanical strength than 20 ga and is
therefore more likely to survive whatever Mother Nature throws at
it--ice, snow, wind. Please appreciate the fact that the OP is in New
York state and may have more severe weather than you do in California
(this weekend's California storms excepted).

How lucky do you feel with that 20 gauge?

Telamon January 5th 08 10:35 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

I couldn't agree more.

David wrote:
Radioguy wrote:


Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.


Especially if you're a George Noory/Ian Punit [sic] fan.


I find you pretty disagreeable.

I think most people would find you disagreeable.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 5th 08 10:36 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:


Radioguy wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:14 pm, David wrote:
Radioguy wrote:

Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and FM
dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000 miles
away is still a lot of fun.
Especially if you're a George Noory/Ian Punit [sic] fan.


Have no idea who those people are. The Canadian MW stations are a
nice catch.


Then maybe YOU should listen more to the radio than typing on the
internet.


Find a newsgroup that meets your interests bozo.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 5th 08 10:39 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

Rusty Nutsack wrote:
On 2008-01-04 10:12:04 -0500, Radioguy said:

On Jan 3, 10:54 pm, Scott Nelson
wrote:
No, I just know a dead horse when I see it.

Technology evolves. Radio was a great technology. WAS. 8-track
tapes were better than sliced bread back in the 60s and 70s.
Time marches on.


I love listening to international broadcasters. I have a Wi-Fi
system setup and it streams to my stereo. The BBC never sounded
so good. I can easily record the shows digitally if I like and
transfer them to an Ipod or other MP3 player.

Look at the progress that's been made in the last 5 years with
computer technology. It won't be long and handheld wifi devices
will be every where and cars will be equipped with internet
radios.

You can string out all the longwire you want. More power to you.
The

only problem is that there won't be anything to listen to.


Now that is unusual. With a 30 inch whip antenna I was able to
hear lots of stations on shortwave last night. You need to do
less writing on the internet and more real listening.

Regarding whether "Radio Was a Great Technology" I find the AM and
FM dial full of stations. DXing the AM dial for stations 1,000
miles away is still a lot of fun.



When his power goes out he'll go masturbate while we still
listen....

Can't you afford a laptop?

What good is a laptop to you? You can't even figure out where to go to
meet people with your interests at heart.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 5th 08 10:41 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

Are you in denial or what?


Snip

Are you a retard or what?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 5th 08 10:42 PM

shortwave radio attenas and radio shack
 
In article ,
Scott Nelson wrote:

Great argument. I can tell you were on the debate team in school.

Snip

This is where you realize you have been posting to the wrong news group
bright boy.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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