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Default Antenna Pre-amps MFJ 1020C

Do a lot of travelling and like to cruise the SW bands etc. Anyone use or
have any comments on the MFJ-1020C indoor active antenna preamp?

Performance? Bands etc.?

Thanks

Using an ICOM R-20 Communications Reciever

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Default Antenna Pre-amps MFJ 1020C

Dear Mr. Green,

I own the original MFJ-1020 and the later MFJ-1020B. Both are adequate
- no more - when used indoors with the short whip antenna. If you are
able to attach 20 feet - any more and you'll overload it - of
insulated wire to the back via the RCA jack and can run that wire
outside, the performance will improve greatly. The trouble, of course,
when traveling, is that you have to open a window (not always possibly
in a hotel) to run the wire outside.

It might be worth a try, however, as it is not too expensive.
Personally, however, I would recommend trying a Sony AN-LP1 Active
Antenna for about the same price. Unfortunately that antenna is
available only from a Japanese eBay dealer called Buy From Japan. I do
understand, however, that he is extremely reliable and ships very
quickly. (I personally have never dealt with him.)

Best,

Joe

On Jan 26, 7:55 pm, "sdgreen" wrote:
Do a lot of traveling and like to cruise the SW bands etc. Anyone use or
have any comments on the MFJ-1020C indoor active antenna preamp?

Performance? Bands etc.?

Thanks

Using an ICOM R-20 Communications Receiver


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On Jan 26, 4:55 pm, "sdgreen" wrote:
-
- Do a lot of travelling and like to cruise the SW bands etc.
- Anyone use or have any comments on the MFJ-1020C
- indoor active antenna preamp?
-
- Performance? Bands etc.?
-
- Thanks
-
- Using an ICOM R-20 Communications Reciever
-
- =-=
-

What About Scanner Reciever Antennas for Shortwave Radio Listening
(SWL)
- [Was : Antenna Pre-amps MFJ 1020C]
- "sdgreen"

Icom R-20 Communications Receiver {Handheld Scanner}
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/produc...0/default.aspx

Icom R-20 Communications Scanning Receiver {Handheld}
eHAM REVIEWS - http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4317

The Icom IC-R20 Scanner is Shortwave to Microwave
http://www.strongsignals.net/access/...rr_ic-r20.html
Wideband Coverage : LW + AM/MW + SW/HF + VFH + UHF/FM +++
Modes : AM + SSB + CW + FM + WFM
Receiver System : Triple Conversion SuperHeterodyne
Antenna Impedance : 50 Ohms
Antenna Connection : BNC Jack
Standard Antenna : 23 Inch Whip Antenna with BNC Base

Icom IC-R20 Wideband "Scanner" Receiver
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0020.html

REPORT - ICOM IC-R20 Wideband Scanner Receiver
http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/mtscan1104.pdf
-by- Bob Parnass [AJ9S] - Monitoring Times

FIRST - IMHO - You Do Not Need a MFJ-1020 Active Antenna
for the Icom IC-R20 Wideband Scanner Receiver.

WHAT YOU DO NEED IS : A Better-Bigger-Longer Antenna
Passive Antennas that will Capture and Deliver more Signal
without Overloading your Scanning Receiver.

READ - Many Scanner Radio Problems Can Be "Fixed"
With A Better Scanner Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5613952dbf2d65
* "Snoop" Scanner Antenna
* 24" Big Daddy "Snoop" Scanner Antenna
* Scanner Window Mount Antenna
* 48 Inch Grove "Flex-Tenna" Model VU # ANT46
* Car Magnet Mount Mini-Mobile Wide-Band Scanner Antenna
with a BNC Connector.

READ - Simple Snake Antenna for the Shortwave (HF) Band
for Scanners made from a single piece of Coax Cable should
work with out overloading the Scanning Receiver.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...0c9dfd1a8b21a2
Snake Antenna - Antenna Construction Steps
Or simply 'modify' the Workman SCAN4 Wire Scanner Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ants/1820.html
into a smaller Snake Antenna by Removing a total of 3 Feet of
the Outer Insulation and Coax Shield and Exposing the Inner
Insulator and Center Conductor. Compact (6 Ft) and Portable.

READ - Antennas for a WideBand {Scanner} Receiver
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...92cd087ae7b7e1

Check-Out these Scanner Antennas :
* WPN-97 Nomad Portable Antenna
http://www.scannermaster.com/Nomad_A.../25-541079.htm
* WAN-97A Active Nomad Base Antenna
http://www.scannermaster.com/WAN_97A.../28-541171.htm
* Workman SCAN4 Window Wire Scanner Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ants/1820.html
* RadioMaster P-30 Passive WideBand Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/1331.html

DO-It-Yourself - Build a "T" Antenna for your Scanner using
an FM Folded Dipole Antenna and a BNC Connector.
* Basic FM Folded Dipole "T" Antenna {300 Ohm Twin Lead}
http://www.kyes.com/antenna/antennatypes/twinlead.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/misc/1268.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mwant/3239.html
* BNC Coax Cable type Connector
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...s/bncconn.html
-Note- The Top is about 60 Inches Tip-to-Tip with a 72 Inch
feed-in-line.
-Tip- Can be Mounted Horizontal, Vertically or on a Diagonal
usually across or near a Window.
-Three Alternatives- Buy It Ready-Made :
* "Super Dipole Scanner Antenna"
SDSA - http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ150209493857
* "Reflex Snooper" Folded Dipole Scanner Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ270204016912
* "Big Reflex Snooper" Folded Dipole Scanner Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ280192691192

READ - The Simplest Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas
That I Know Of..." It Is The FM Folded Dipole Antenna.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...bed3e059ec70a3


hope this helps - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
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Default What About Scanner Reciever Antennas for Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL)

Thanks RHF! Excuse the top posting, but your information is utterly
magnificent...kudos.

My thought on the MFJ 1020C active pre-amp is that such is self contained,
easy to pack, has the appropriate controls, comes with a vertical
telescoping mast 50+ inches and looks like it would be easy to setup and
use.

Wires are nice, but messy on luggage and sometimes airport security get
curious.

So the question is does the MFJ 1020C do the job.

=======================


"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Jan 26, 4:55 pm, "sdgreen" wrote:
-
- Do a lot of travelling and like to cruise the SW bands etc.
- Anyone use or have any comments on the MFJ-1020C
- indoor active antenna preamp?
-
- Performance? Bands etc.?
-
- Thanks
-
- Using an ICOM R-20 Communications Reciever
-
- =-=
-

What About Scanner Reciever Antennas for Shortwave Radio Listening
(SWL)
- [Was : Antenna Pre-amps MFJ 1020C]
- "sdgreen"

Icom R-20 Communications Receiver {Handheld Scanner}
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/produc...0/default.aspx

Icom R-20 Communications Scanning Receiver {Handheld}
eHAM REVIEWS - http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4317

The Icom IC-R20 Scanner is Shortwave to Microwave
http://www.strongsignals.net/access/...rr_ic-r20.html
Wideband Coverage : LW + AM/MW + SW/HF + VFH + UHF/FM +++
Modes : AM + SSB + CW + FM + WFM
Receiver System : Triple Conversion SuperHeterodyne
Antenna Impedance : 50 Ohms
Antenna Connection : BNC Jack
Standard Antenna : 23 Inch Whip Antenna with BNC Base

Icom IC-R20 Wideband "Scanner" Receiver
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0020.html

REPORT - ICOM IC-R20 Wideband Scanner Receiver
http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/mtscan1104.pdf
-by- Bob Parnass [AJ9S] - Monitoring Times

FIRST - IMHO - You Do Not Need a MFJ-1020 Active Antenna
for the Icom IC-R20 Wideband Scanner Receiver.

WHAT YOU DO NEED IS : A Better-Bigger-Longer Antenna
Passive Antennas that will Capture and Deliver more Signal
without Overloading your Scanning Receiver.

READ - Many Scanner Radio Problems Can Be "Fixed"
With A Better Scanner Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5613952dbf2d65
* "Snoop" Scanner Antenna
* 24" Big Daddy "Snoop" Scanner Antenna
* Scanner Window Mount Antenna
* 48 Inch Grove "Flex-Tenna" Model VU # ANT46
* Car Magnet Mount Mini-Mobile Wide-Band Scanner Antenna
with a BNC Connector.

READ - Simple Snake Antenna for the Shortwave (HF) Band
for Scanners made from a single piece of Coax Cable should
work with out overloading the Scanning Receiver.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...0c9dfd1a8b21a2
Snake Antenna - Antenna Construction Steps
Or simply 'modify' the Workman SCAN4 Wire Scanner Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ants/1820.html
into a smaller Snake Antenna by Removing a total of 3 Feet of
the Outer Insulation and Coax Shield and Exposing the Inner
Insulator and Center Conductor. Compact (6 Ft) and Portable.

READ - Antennas for a WideBand {Scanner} Receiver
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...92cd087ae7b7e1

Check-Out these Scanner Antennas :
* WPN-97 Nomad Portable Antenna
http://www.scannermaster.com/Nomad_A.../25-541079.htm
* WAN-97A Active Nomad Base Antenna
http://www.scannermaster.com/WAN_97A.../28-541171.htm
* Workman SCAN4 Window Wire Scanner Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ants/1820.html
* RadioMaster P-30 Passive WideBand Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/1331.html

DO-It-Yourself - Build a "T" Antenna for your Scanner using
an FM Folded Dipole Antenna and a BNC Connector.
* Basic FM Folded Dipole "T" Antenna {300 Ohm Twin Lead}
http://www.kyes.com/antenna/antennatypes/twinlead.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/misc/1268.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mwant/3239.html
* BNC Coax Cable type Connector
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...s/bncconn.html
-Note- The Top is about 60 Inches Tip-to-Tip with a 72 Inch
feed-in-line.
-Tip- Can be Mounted Horizontal, Vertically or on a Diagonal
usually across or near a Window.
-Three Alternatives- Buy It Ready-Made :
* "Super Dipole Scanner Antenna"
SDSA - http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ150209493857
* "Reflex Snooper" Folded Dipole Scanner Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ270204016912
* "Big Reflex Snooper" Folded Dipole Scanner Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ280192691192

READ - The Simplest Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas
That I Know Of..." It Is The FM Folded Dipole Antenna.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...bed3e059ec70a3


hope this helps - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
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Default Wide-Band Scanner Receivers -and- Wide-Band Active Antennas = Synergy& Utility

On Jan 27, 11:30*pm, "sdgreen" wrote:
-
- Thanks RHF! *Excuse the top posting, but your information
- is utterly magnificent...kudos.
-
- My thought on the MFJ 1020C active pre-amp is that such
- is self contained, easy to pack, has the appropriate controls,
- comes with a vertical telescoping mast 50+ inches and looks
- like it would be easy to setup and use.
-
- Wires are nice, but messy on luggage and sometimes
- airport security get curious.
-
- So the question is does the MFJ 1020C do the job.
-
- =======================

SD GREEN,

Yes the MFJ-1020C could "Do The Job" as you have defined it.

You have an RF Gain Control and Attenuator built into the
Icom IC-R20 and a Gain Control built into the MFJ-1020C.

Active Antenna Signal Overload - Back-Off on them to reduce
and prevent any Signal Overload of the Radio.

Remember - That you have to Tune both the Radio and the
Active Antenna to the same Frequency to use them properly.

Wide-Band Scanner Receivers -and- Wide-Band Active Antennas
- = Synergy & Utility = -

TIP - With a Scanning Wideband Radio you may find a Wideband
Active Antenna the better 'choice' versus an Active Antenna that
you will be Required to Re-Tune with each Frequency change.

Two Wide-Band Active Antennas :

You may want to consider the MFJ-1022 Wideband Active
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3109.html
Indoor Receiving Antenna : Coverage 300 kHz to 200 MHz
* Small Compact and Designed to be used Indoors
* "No" Tuning Required
* Adjust the Radio's RF Gain Control and Attenuator
to reduce and prevent Signal Overload

Another 'alternative' is the Kaito KA35 Active MW/SW Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/4835.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ250194482431
* Small Compact and Designed to be used Indoors
* "No" Tuning Required
* Adjust the Radio's RF Gain Control and Attenuator
to reduce and prevent Signal Overload
+ Two Antenna Elements Coverage : 100 kHz to 30 MHz
+ + AM/MW Ferrite Rod {Directional} LW+MW+SW3MHz
+ + Shortwave Whip {Non-Directional} SW 3MHz~ 30 MHz

-ps- Telamon be sure to count this as another one of my
'clueless posts' with plenty of : cut, copy, and paste variety


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"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Jan 27, 11:30 pm, "sdgreen" wrote:
-
- Thanks RHF! Excuse the top posting, but your information
- is utterly magnificent...kudos.
-
- My thought on the MFJ 1020C active pre-amp is that such
- is self contained, easy to pack, has the appropriate controls,
- comes with a vertical telescoping mast 50+ inches and looks
- like it would be easy to setup and use.
-
- Wires are nice, but messy on luggage and sometimes
- airport security get curious.
-
- So the question is does the MFJ 1020C do the job.
-
- =======================

SD GREEN,

Yes the MFJ-1020C could "Do The Job" as you have defined it.

You have an RF Gain Control and Attenuator built into the
Icom IC-R20 and a Gain Control built into the MFJ-1020C.

Active Antenna Signal Overload - Back-Off on them to reduce
and prevent any Signal Overload of the Radio.

Remember - That you have to Tune both the Radio and the
Active Antenna to the same Frequency to use them properly.

Wide-Band Scanner Receivers -and- Wide-Band Active Antennas
- = Synergy & Utility = -

TIP - With a Scanning Wideband Radio you may find a Wideband
Active Antenna the better 'choice' versus an Active Antenna that
you will be Required to Re-Tune with each Frequency change.

Two Wide-Band Active Antennas :

You may want to consider the MFJ-1022 Wideband Active
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3109.html
Indoor Receiving Antenna : Coverage 300 kHz to 200 MHz
* Small Compact and Designed to be used Indoors
* "No" Tuning Required
* Adjust the Radio's RF Gain Control and Attenuator
to reduce and prevent Signal Overload

Another 'alternative' is the Kaito KA35 Active MW/SW Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/4835.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ250194482431
* Small Compact and Designed to be used Indoors
* "No" Tuning Required
* Adjust the Radio's RF Gain Control and Attenuator
to reduce and prevent Signal Overload
+ Two Antenna Elements Coverage : 100 kHz to 30 MHz
+ + AM/MW Ferrite Rod {Directional} LW+MW+SW3MHz
+ + Shortwave Whip {Non-Directional} SW 3MHz~ 30 MHz

===================================

Thanks RHF. I looked at the options you suggested, but I rather fancy using
the various adjustments to fine tune the signal. The IC-20 does have
satisfactory controls to tailor the signal. For my purpose, the IC-20
performs quite adequately and much, much better than either my Eton 10 /100
or my Grundig 400. SSB is especially outstanding.

It was a toss up between the IC-20 or the AOR 8300. In the end, battery life
was the deciding factor.


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On Jan 28, 12:22*am, RHF wrote:
On Jan 27, 11:30*pm, "sdgreen" wrote:
-
- Thanks RHF! *Excuse the top posting, but your information
- is utterly magnificent...kudos.
-
- My thought on the MFJ 1020C active pre-amp is that such
- is self contained, easy to pack, has the appropriate controls,
- comes with a vertical telescoping mast 50+ inches and looks
- like it would be easy to setup and use.
-
- Wires are nice, but messy on luggage and sometimes
- airport security get curious.
-
- So the question is does the MFJ 1020C do the job.
-
- =======================

SD GREEN,

Yes the MFJ-1020C could "Do The Job" as you have defined it.

You have an RF Gain Control and Attenuator built into the
Icom IC-R20 and a Gain Control built into the MFJ-1020C.

Active Antenna Signal Overload - Back-Off on them to reduce
and prevent any Signal Overload of the Radio.

Remember - That you have to Tune both the Radio and the
Active Antenna to the same Frequency to use them properly.

Wide-Band Scanner Receivers -and- Wide-Band Active Antennas
- = Synergy & Utility = -

TIP - With a Scanning Wideband Radio you may find a Wideband
Active Antenna the better 'choice' versus an Active Antenna that
you will be Required to Re-Tune with each Frequency change.

Two Wide-Band Active Antennas :

You may want to consider the MFJ-1022 Wideband Activehttp://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3109.html
Indoor Receiving Antenna : Coverage 300 kHz to 200 MHz
* Small Compact and Designed to be used Indoors
* "No" Tuning Required
* Adjust the Radio's RF Gain Control and Attenuator
to reduce and prevent Signal Overload

Another 'alternative' is the Kaito KA35 Active MW/SW Antennahttp://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/4835.htmlhttp://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ250194482431
* Small Compact and Designed to be used Indoors
* "No" Tuning Required
* Adjust the Radio's RF Gain Control and Attenuator
to reduce and prevent Signal Overload
+ Two Antenna Elements Coverage : 100 kHz to 30 MHz
+ + AM/MW Ferrite Rod {Directional} LW+MW+SW3MHz
+ + Shortwave Whip {Non-Directional} SW 3MHz~ 30 MHz

-ps- Telamon be sure to count this as another one of my
'clueless posts' with plenty of : cut, copy, and paste variety
*.
*.
again hope this helps - iane ~ RHF *{pomkia}
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Telamon,

This Message and Thread Needed both
Your Vast Knowledge and Great Expertise.


but alas you were once again 'mia' ~ RHF


-ps- that's 11 for me and 0 for you
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Default Antenna Pre-amps MFJ 1020C

On Jan 26, 7:55*pm, "sdgreen" wrote:
Do a lot of travelling and like to cruise the SW bands etc. Anyone use or
have any comments on the MFJ-1020C indoor active antenna preamp?

Performance? Bands etc.?

Thanks

Using an ICOM R-20 Communications Reciever

=-=


the r20 isn't going to be able to take much of an antenna w/out
overloading badly on hf. it simply wasn't designed for that sorta
thing. i've had my r20 overload before on the hf bands with only a
sangean an-60 reel-out wire

on the upside, you can back off the gain with the mfj unit.

much better off taking that money & putting it toward a Kaito/Degen
1103 for your hf listening, or spending more & getting an icf-sw7600GR
for hf.



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