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Rfburns March 1st 08 03:29 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
Lets see now - 400 Million spent on HD Radio ads and 300,000 radios
sold so far - and that's probably inflated.

Ok, that amounts to....... $1333.33 spent for each listener - roughly
speaking of course. Did I get the math right? Is that a valid way
of looking at it?.

Now its possible that there are two people listening to the same
radio. OK......That amounts to.....$666.66 per listener.

Help me out here. Doesn't seem too successful to me.

J.R. Stocks. Could you help me on this?

jw

Rfburns March 1st 08 03:49 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
On Mar 1, 10:29 am, Rfburns wrote:
Lets see now - 400 Million spent on HD Radio ads and 300,000 radios
sold so far - and that's probably inflated.

Ok, that amounts to....... $1333.33 spent for each listener - roughly
speaking of course. Did I get the math right? Is that a valid way
of looking at it?.

Now its possible that there are two people listening to the same
radio. OK......That amounts to.....$666.66 per listener.

Help me out here. Doesn't seem too successful to me.

J.R. Stocks. Could you help me on this?

jw


OK. Radiosophy is extending their sale of HD radios through March.
You can buy this fine plastic radio for $89.00 This might help.

jw

IBOCcrock March 1st 08 03:57 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
On Mar 1, 10:29�am, Rfburns wrote:
Lets see now - 400 Million spent on HD Radio ads and 300,000 radios
sold so far �- and that's probably inflated.

Ok, that amounts to....... $1333.33 spent for each listener - roughly
speaking of course. � Did I get the math right? � Is that a valid way
of looking at it?.

Now its possible that there are two people listening to the same
radio. �OK......That amounts to.....$666.66 per listener.

Help me out here. �Doesn't seem too successful to me.

J.R. Stocks. �Could you help me on this?

jw


According to Hipporadio on Radio-Info, who is in the broadcast
industry annd electonic sales, only 130,000 HD radios sold, minus
returns, "trade" purchases, and giveaways - maybe, the true number is
around 50,000 in the hands of radio-geeks and consumers.

IBOCcrock March 1st 08 03:59 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
On Mar 1, 10:29�am, Rfburns wrote:
Lets see now - 400 Million spent on HD Radio ads and 300,000 radios
sold so far �- and that's probably inflated.

Ok, that amounts to....... $1333.33 spent for each listener - roughly
speaking of course. � Did I get the math right? � Is that a valid way
of looking at it?.

Now its possible that there are two people listening to the same
radio. �OK......That amounts to.....$666.66 per listener.

Help me out here. �Doesn't seem too successful to me.

J.R. Stocks. �Could you help me on this?

jw


Jr is too much of a loser to help - perhaps, Stocks could help?

IBOCcrock March 1st 08 04:03 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
On Mar 1, 10:49 am, Rfburns wrote:
On Mar 1, 10:29 am, Rfburns wrote:

Lets see now - 400 Million spent on HD Radio ads and 300,000 radios
sold so far - and that's probably inflated.


Ok, that amounts to....... $1333.33 spent for each listener - roughly
speaking of course. Did I get the math right? Is that a valid way
of looking at it?.


Now its possible that there are two people listening to the same
radio. OK......That amounts to.....$666.66 per listener.


Help me out here. Doesn't seem too successful to me.


J.R. Stocks. Could you help me on this?


jw


OK. Radiosophy is extending their sale of HD radios through March.
You can buy this fine plastic radio for $89.00 This might help.

jw


Having to be put on "sale" means no sale. Here is a review from Wired
on that piece-of-crap:

"Remember those crappy $15 AM/FM/cassette radios from the 80s? The
HD100 looks just like one and has the sound to match. Basically a
glorified clock radio, it has a chintzy, careless interface with
speakers that spew a tinny unrefined sound. Frankly we'd be happier
keeping our money and sitting in silence."

If you look at my blog down the right hand side, you will quickly
figure out why HD radios are so expensive, yet cheaply made:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/


IBOCcrock March 1st 08 04:09 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
On Mar 1, 10:29�am, Rfburns wrote:
Lets see now - 400 Million spent on HD Radio ads and 300,000 radios
sold so far �- and that's probably inflated.

Ok, that amounts to....... $1333.33 spent for each listener - roughly
speaking of course. � Did I get the math right? � Is that a valid way
of looking at it?.

Now its possible that there are two people listening to the same
radio. �OK......That amounts to.....$666.66 per listener.

Help me out here. �Doesn't seem too successful to me.

J.R. Stocks. �Could you help me on this?

jw


I'll be generous and give iBiquity 100,000 HD radios. So, there are
about 270,000,000 people, and dropping, that listen to radio. So,
wouldn't that leave $2,700 spent on each listener per HD radio?

RHF March 1st 08 07:01 PM

IBOC : "HD" Radio Sales - Getting The Math Right ! - [Was : Hd RadioSales - Did I Get The Math Right?]
 
RF Burns,

Good Post as long as you put IBOC or HD Radio at the Start of
the Subject-Line of these IBOC / HD Radio Posts : You will not
see me posting to them; except to actually make a Comment.

-wrt- Did I Get The Math Right? : Fuzzy Logic =equals= Fuzzy Math

IBOC : "HD" Radio Sales - Getting The Math Right !
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...be3984e6b529e1

The $400M was spent to Try-and-Influence the 300M present
day Analog "Only" AM/FM Radio Listeners in the USA.

Doing-the-Math - For These Listeners would come out to be
about $1.33 for every 'potential' Radio Listener; that could be
"Sold-on-the-Idea" of "HD" Radio -as- Being Something They
Both "Want" {It's New ! :o} and Have-to-Have. {It's Digital ! :o}

$NOTE$ - A $1.33 per Radio Listener per Year with Hourly
and Daily Radio ADZs {PSAs} is : cheap, Cheap. CHEAP !
-note- As soon as Congress / The FCC Mandates All Digital
Mode AM/FM/DS Radios : All the former "HD" Radios ADZs
will be Income-Off-Setting "PSAs" for the Radio Stations.
This is a $-}} = I See Money Big Smile Happy Face $-}}

RF Burns - You are Focused on short-term 'results'.

While the "HD" Radio 'Alliance' is Interested in Long-Term
[Bottom-Line] "Results" over the next Decade for AM/FM Radio.
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/rec..._id=1001614953

The "HD" Radio 'Alliance' has the Money and Commitment for
a 5~10 Year Program to Transition the USA to "HD" AM/FM
Radio; plus the Political Resources to Make-It-Happen by an
Act-of-Congress and/or Rulling by the FCC; which I suspect
is coming in the next 3 Years to require that all 'new' Radios
being Built or Imported in to the USA will be All Digital-Mode
AM/FM/DS "HD" Radios with Dual Mode IBOC and a Built-in
Direct-Satellite Interface.

NOTE - The Price Point of these All Digital-Mode AM/FM/DS
"HD" Radios will Drop Annually over a Period of several Years :
[ Using a 1/3 (-33%) Price Reduction per Year ]
$500 for Year # 1 $335 for Year # 2 $225 for Year # 3
$150 for Year # 4 $100 for Year # 5
SO - At the End of Five (5) Years the Price of the 'new' All
Digital-Mode AM/FM/DS "HD" Radios will be back at the
present day Price to US Consumers for the old Analog "Only'
AM/FM Radio that has been around for 40 Years.

Read - A Revolution in Audio Content Delivery May Be in the
Making . . . The All Digital Mode AM/FM+DS Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...a8d6de046fe486

Read - IBOC - The Birth of the All Digital Mode AM/FM/DS Radio . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...2b1c92d4609c30

Read - Will Audio Consumers Want the All Digital Mode
AM/FM/DS Radio ?
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...92ac1646c73155

Remember - Just Wishing and Hoping Will Not Stop IBOC
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...182542b2ab763a
"HD" Radio will require an Active effort by those who love
traditional Analog AM Radio to Stop It . . .
and Honestly I Do Not See That Happening.

it's about iboc 'hd' radio ~ RHF
Hello and Welcome to the "HD Radio" NewsGroup*
* http://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/
HD RADIO GROUP = http://tinyurl.com/27kwyt

Telamon March 1st 08 07:47 PM

IBOC : "HD" Radio Sales - Getting The Math Right ! - [Was : Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?]
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

RF Burns,

Good Post as long as you put IBOC or HD Radio at the Start of
the Subject-Line of these IBOC / HD Radio Posts : You will not
see me posting to them; except to actually make a Comment.

-wrt- Did I Get The Math Right? : Fuzzy Logic =equals= Fuzzy Math

IBOC : "HD" Radio Sales - Getting The Math Right !
http://groups.google.com/group


SNIP

Get lost google group spammer.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce March 1st 08 10:39 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 


dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
No, I will leave the plagiarism to you. Somebody else already did the
"fair
usage" post from the article.

If you can't defend what you post don't bother.

I told you where a very full article is to be found.

So, just where can those 2200 'veries' be found?

In my sister's basement storage room in a suburb of Cleveland, except for
two state's worth that I have in Glendale, CA.


Sure... Well then, perhaps I can meet your sister in Omena?


Or maybe I just drive to Cleveland? I can show her mine, and she can show me
yours?

Such a deal!



dxAce March 1st 08 10:48 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 


dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
No, I will leave the plagiarism to you. Somebody else already did the
"fair
usage" post from the article.

If you can't defend what you post don't bother.

I told you where a very full article is to be found.

So, just where can those 2200 'veries' be found?

In my sister's basement storage room in a suburb of Cleveland, except for
two state's worth that I have in Glendale, CA.


Sure... Well then, perhaps I can meet your sister in Omena?


Or maybe I just drive to Cleveland? I can show her mine, and she can show me
yours?

Such a deal!


And if anyone thinks 'Eduardo' is going to take that deal they are confused!



dxAce March 1st 08 11:06 PM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 


dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
No, I will leave the plagiarism to you. Somebody else already did the
"fair
usage" post from the article.

If you can't defend what you post don't bother.

I told you where a very full article is to be found.

So, just where can those 2200 'veries' be found?

In my sister's basement storage room in a suburb of Cleveland, except for
two state's worth that I have in Glendale, CA.

Sure... Well then, perhaps I can meet your sister in Omena?


Or maybe I just drive to Cleveland? I can show her mine, and she can show me
yours?

Such a deal!


And if anyone thinks 'Eduardo' is going to take that deal they are confused!


And now, ladies and gentlemen, 'Eduardo' will make another round of excuses...


David Eduardo[_4_] March 2nd 08 01:07 AM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
No, I will leave the plagiarism to you. Somebody else already did
the
"fair
usage" post from the article.

If you can't defend what you post don't bother.

I told you where a very full article is to be found.

So, just where can those 2200 'veries' be found?

In my sister's basement storage room in a suburb of Cleveland, except for
two state's worth that I have in Glendale, CA.


Sure... Well then, perhaps I can meet your sister in Omena?


Yeah, drive up in July and August; Fire Lane 8, third house.

Not considering of course your statements in the past that they no longer
existed...


I too thought that. But all the stuff from my Mother's basement next door
ended up at my sisters. I have no idea if they are complete, but am told the
entire 2-drawer file is there. Why don't you run down and check? You are
much closer than I am.



David[_6_] March 2nd 08 02:02 AM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
On Mar 1, 10:57 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Mar 1, 10:29�am, Rfburns wrote:

Lets see now - 400 Million spent on HD Radio ads and 300,000 radios
sold so far �- and that's probably inflated.


Ok, that amounts to....... $1333.33 spent for each listener - roughly
speaking of course. � Did I get the math right? � Is that a valid way
of looking at it?.


Now its possible that there are two people listening to the same
radio. �OK......That amounts to.....$666.66 per listener.


Help me out here. �Doesn't seem too successful to me.


J.R. Stocks. �Could you help me on this?


jw


According to Hipporadio on Radio-Info, who is in the broadcast
industry annd electonic sales, only 130,000 HD radios sold, minus
returns, "trade" purchases, and giveaways - maybe, the true number is
around 50,000 in the hands of radio-geeks and consumers.



The only people I've read about buying them are station managers &
technophiles.

& check this one out . .

http://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio?hl=en&lnk=srg

Fifteen People as members . . .




Telamon March 2nd 08 02:18 AM

IBOC : "HD" Radio Sales - Getting The Math Right !
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 1, 11:47*am, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*RHF wrote:
RF Burns,


Good Post as long as you put IBOC or HD Radio at the Start of
the Subject-Line of these IBOC / HD Radio Posts : You will not
see me posting to them; except to actually make a Comment.


-wrt- Did I Get The Math Right? : Fuzzy Logic =equals= Fuzzy Math


IBOC : "HD" Radio Sales - Getting The Math Right !
http://groups.google.com/group

-
- SNIP
-
- Get lost google group spammer.
-

PONG : Telamon - Poluting another On-Topic Thread
with Your Personal Attacks on Me {RHF}

Telamon - In the Name of Google...
I Denouce The Demon Within You !
Get Thee Out Old "Ping-Pong" - Be Gone - Amen ~ RHF


Time for you to wise up google spammer.

Stop changing the subject line of the thread you moron.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 2nd 08 02:24 AM

Hd Radio Sales - Did I Get The Math Right?
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Doesn't look third generation to me. It's first generation going on 2nd
when it happens. It has not happened yet. Now get a clue as there are no
radios with new optimized chip sets because there are no optimized chip
sets to put in them yet. What could your next argument be? That they are
keeping the new radios a secret?


The chips are shipping. Production samples were given manufacturers at CES
per the Radio World article and per iBiquity updates.


Those are promotional "promises." There are no "chips" shipping.


I don't expect marketers to keep details straight. I expect them to
promote ignoring details that do not fit in their outlook.


You are just upset that the chips are not going to you for approval.


I don't work for them and I'm not buying them so naturally they are not
looking for my approval so why would i be upset.

I want to borrow some money from you to fabricate a new chip design. I
promise to pay you back when they sell.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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