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IBOCcrock March 1st 08 04:31 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:

******,

Glad to peruse your blog. Thanks for the technical lesson. I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.

It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.

Doug

dxAce March 1st 08 04:37 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 


IBOCcrock wrote:

Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:

******,

Glad to peruse your blog. Thanks for the technical lesson. I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.

It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.


Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the bull****
from the tequila.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce March 1st 08 05:19 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 


m II wrote:

dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:

Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the
bull**** from the tequila.


That is easily achieved, Bozo.

DxAcehole and bull**** are inseparable, as are dxacehole and racism,
dxacehole and stupidity, dxacehole and vulgarity. The list goes on.

You also lie a lot


Well, at least I'm not a drunken dumbass Canuck!



m II March 1st 08 05:30 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


Well, at least I'm not a drunken dumbass Canuck



It would be a vast improvement over the pile of manure that you are now.



================================
From: - Sat Feb 16 00:52:22 2008

I really don't want to say this, my many shortwave friends, but
I find that I am giving up far to much of my increasingly valuable
time here on RRS trying to educate the faux, the debutantes, and
those who tote..

Therefore, I've simply decided to give up RRS.

Goodbye, I sincerely hope that you all find your niche in the
world of SW.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

========================================


dxAce March 1st 08 05:33 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 


m II wrote:

dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:

Well, at least I'm not a drunken dumbass Canuck


It would be a vast improvement over the pile of manure that you are now.


Even a pile of manure is better than a drunken dumbass Canuck!



[email protected] March 1st 08 05:40 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:33:48 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:

Well, at least I'm not a drunken dumbass Canuck


It would be a vast improvement over the pile of manure that you are now.


Even a pile of manure is better than a drunken dumbass Canuck!

Glad to see that this ng is back on track; after a couple weeks of
the RHF vs Telamon threads I was wondering if we'd ever recover.
Seeing you two exchange barbs is like coming home to an old friend.

dxAce March 1st 08 05:42 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 


wrote:

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:33:48 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:

Well, at least I'm not a drunken dumbass Canuck

It would be a vast improvement over the pile of manure that you are now.


Even a pile of manure is better than a drunken dumbass Canuck!

Glad to see that this ng is back on track; after a couple weeks of
the RHF vs Telamon threads I was wondering if we'd ever recover.
Seeing you two exchange barbs is like coming home to an old friend.


Welcome Home!



dxAce March 1st 08 05:50 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 


m II wrote:

dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:

Even a pile of manure is better than a drunken dumbass Canuck!


Original thinking doesn't come easily to you, does it?

I've been meaning to correct one of your racist invectives. You said:

"Go blow some IBO Cock, and leave the real radio hobbyists alone, OK?"

You should be aware that, despite your own experiences, the IBO are not
known for homosexual activity. Did you force them at gunpoint?


No, but you probably got them drunk, you dumbass Canuck!



m II March 1st 08 06:02 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:

I've been meaning to correct one of your racist invectives. You said:
"Go blow some IBO Cock, and leave the real radio hobbyists alone,
OK?"

You should be aware that, despite your own experiences, the IBO are
not known for homosexual activity. Did you force them at gunpoint?


http://tinyurl.com/37bbx7




No, but you probably got them drunk, you dumbass Canuck!



You have homosexual sex with drunken IBOs? Were they passed out when you
found them? Taking advantage of drunks is very, very low, you pervert.

...now having realized what I'm doing to you, I'll take my leave of this
thread.

The last word, as always, is yours.





mike



================================
From: - Sat Feb 16 00:52:22 2008

I really don't want to say this, my many shortwave friends, but
I find that I am giving up far to much of my increasingly valuable
time here on RRS trying to educate the faux, the debutantes, and
those who tote..

Therefore, I've simply decided to give up RRS.

Goodbye, I sincerely hope that you all find your niche in the
world of SW.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

========================================


dxAce March 1st 08 06:13 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 


m II wrote:

dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:

I've been meaning to correct one of your racist invectives. You said:
"Go blow some IBO Cock, and leave the real radio hobbyists alone,
OK?"

You should be aware that, despite your own experiences, the IBO are
not known for homosexual activity. Did you force them at gunpoint?


http://tinyurl.com/37bbx7


No, but you probably got them drunk, you dumbass Canuck!


You have homosexual sex with drunken IBOs? Were they passed out when you
found them? Taking advantage of drunks is very, very low, you pervert.

..now having realized what I'm doing to you, I'll take my leave of this
thread.


Quitter! Typical drunken dumbass Canuck.



RHF March 1st 08 07:59 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
On Mar 1, 9:40*am, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:33:48 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



m II wrote:


dxAcehole, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


Well, at least I'm not a drunken dumbass Canuck


It would be a vast improvement over the pile of manure that you are now..


Even a pile of manure is better than a drunken dumbass Canuck!

-
- Glad to see that this ng is back on track;
-*after a couple weeks of the RHF vs Telamon threads
- I was wondering if we'd ever recover.
- Seeing you two exchange barbs is
- like coming home to an old friend.
-

GH - It Sure Do ! :o) ~ RHF

RHF March 1st 08 08:04 PM

NP2G : What a Waste-of-Bandwidth
 
On Mar 1, 9:46*am, m II wrote:

D Peter Maus March 5th 08 10:51 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
dxAce wrote:

IBOCcrock wrote:

Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:

******,

Glad to peruse your blog. Thanks for the technical lesson. I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.

It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.


Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the bull****
from the tequila.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I've never been convinced that what he posts here is actually a
bone-deep belief. Lately, I've been more aware of the sense that he's as
much trying to convince himself of the veracity of his positions as he
is trying to convince us.

As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement I've
worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune HD
until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it finally
becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's not going
to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has been
invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate.

Till then, the shills will continue to hawk, demean, and argue.

And contrary to their own assertions, they neither hear, nor will
listen to anything that conflicts their chosen stance.




D Peter Maus March 5th 08 10:52 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
m II wrote:


The last word, as always, is yours.



If that were true, you would have shut up weeks ago.

RHF March 5th 08 11:21 PM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
On Mar 5, 2:51*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
dxAce wrote:

IBOCcrock wrote:


Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:


******,


Glad to peruse your blog. *Thanks for the technical lesson. *I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. *I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.


It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. *Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. *My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.


Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the bull****
from the tequila.


dxAce
Michigan
USA


* *I've never been convinced that what he posts here is actually a
bone-deep belief. Lately, I've been more aware of the sense that he's as
much trying to convince himself of the veracity of his positions as he
is trying to convince us.

* *As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement I've
worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune HD
until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it finally
becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's not going
to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has been
invested.

- Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate.

* *Till then, the shills will continue to hawk, demean, and argue.

* *And contrary to their own assertions, they neither hear, nor will
listen to anything that conflicts their chosen stance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now those are Words to Remember :
"Spectacular Failures usually take a Decade to Gestate."
- - - D Peter Maus 2008

IBOCcrock March 6th 08 01:06 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
On Mar 5, 5:51�pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
dxAce wrote:

IBOCcrock wrote:


Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:


******,


Glad to peruse your blog. �Thanks for the technical lesson. �I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. �I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.


It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. �Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. �My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.


Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the bull****
from the tequila.


dxAce
Michigan
USA


� �I've never been convinced that what he posts here is actually a
bone-deep belief. Lately, I've been more aware of the sense that he's as
much trying to convince himself of the veracity of his positions as he
is trying to convince us.

� �As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement I've
worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune HD
until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it finally
becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's not going
to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has been
invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate.

� �Till then, the shills will continue to hawk, demean, and argue.

� �And contrary to their own assertions, they neither hear, nor will
listen to anything that conflicts their chosen stance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement
I've worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune
HD until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it
finally becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's
not going to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has
been invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate."

Yup, we've heard this before - iBiquity will continue to demand fees
and percentages. The new 10db increase in FM-HD, if approved, will
require the replacement of all hardware, and won't happen:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...-hd-radio.html

Major broadcaster stocks are down 90%, and Clear Channel is down 2/3
and up for sale. CC is stopping all investments in the future and
pulled the plug on 294 HD Format Lab channels:

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations, due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...-some-hd..html

"Clear Channel's murky future"

"Sad because eliminating new hires (including sellers), failing to
replace those who leave, stopping all investment in the future, and
halting all advertising and research is the equivalent of saying that
necessity requires us to strangle the goose that lays the golden eggs,
even as the goose is up for sale."

http://www.hear2.com/2008/01/clear-channels.html

Stations will get tired of paying fees and associated costs with
running HD, with no chance of ever generating an ROI.

D Peter Maus March 6th 08 02:08 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
IBOCcrock wrote:
On Mar 5, 5:51�pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
dxAce wrote:

IBOCcrock wrote:
Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:
******,
Glad to peruse your blog. �Thanks for the technical lesson. �I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. �I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.
It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. �Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. �My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.
Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the bull****
from the tequila.
dxAce
Michigan
USA

� �I've never been convinced that what he posts here is actually a
bone-deep belief. Lately, I've been more aware of the sense that he's as
much trying to convince himself of the veracity of his positions as he
is trying to convince us.

� �As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement I've
worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune HD
until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it finally
becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's not going
to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has been
invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate.

� �Till then, the shills will continue to hawk, demean, and argue.

� �And contrary to their own assertions, they neither hear, nor will
listen to anything that conflicts their chosen stance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement
I've worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune
HD until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it
finally becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's
not going to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has
been invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate."

Yup, we've heard this before - iBiquity will continue to demand fees
and percentages. The new 10db increase in FM-HD, if approved, will
require the replacement of all hardware, and won't happen:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...-hd-radio.html

Major broadcaster stocks are down 90%, and Clear Channel is down 2/3
and up for sale. CC is stopping all investments in the future and
pulled the plug on 294 HD Format Lab channels:

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations, due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...n-some-hd.html

"Clear Channel's murky future"

"Sad because eliminating new hires (including sellers), failing to
replace those who leave, stopping all investment in the future, and
halting all advertising and research is the equivalent of saying that
necessity requires us to strangle the goose that lays the golden eggs,
even as the goose is up for sale."

http://www.hear2.com/2008/01/clear-channels.html

Stations will get tired of paying fees and associated costs with
running HD, with no chance of ever generating an ROI.




And it's not going to happen overnight. It will take time.

Telamon March 6th 08 02:27 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

IBOCcrock wrote:

Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:

******,

Glad to peruse your blog. Thanks for the technical lesson. I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.

It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.


Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the
bull****
from the tequila.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I've never been convinced that what he posts here is actually a
bone-deep belief. Lately, I've been more aware of the sense that he's as
much trying to convince himself of the veracity of his positions as he
is trying to convince us.

As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement I've
worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune HD
until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it finally
becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's not going
to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has been
invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate.

Till then, the shills will continue to hawk, demean, and argue.

And contrary to their own assertions, they neither hear, nor will
listen to anything that conflicts their chosen stance.


David has been to busy eating crow these days to do much of that. I just
picked up the March Monitoring times and the word from Ken Reitz who was
there at the CES show shares my opinion of the state HD semiconductor
development. He things Samsung will have next generation HD chips next
fall at the earliest so any new radio set developments are moved into
2009. In ant event the outlook for portable HD radios is poor due to
power and antenna requirements.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 6th 08 02:36 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

Snip


Now those are Words to Remember :
"Spectacular Failures usually take a Decade to Gestate."
- - - D Peter Maus 2008


We got that the first time. None needs you to repeat it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 7th 08 02:42 AM

IBOC : Snippets from an HD-Radio Reporter...
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 5, 6:27*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,
*D Peter Maus wrote:





dxAce wrote:


IBOCcrock wrote:


Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:


******,


Glad to peruse your blog. *Thanks for the technical lesson. *I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. *I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.


It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. *Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. *My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.


Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the
bull****
from the tequila.



* *I've never been convinced that what he posts here is actually a
bone-deep belief. Lately, I've been more aware of the sense that he's as
much trying to convince himself of the veracity of his positions as he
is trying to convince us.


* *As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement I've
worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune HD
until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it finally
becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's not going
to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has been
invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate.


* *Till then, the shills will continue to hawk, demean, and argue.


* *And contrary to their own assertions, they neither hear, nor will
listen to anything that conflicts their chosen stance.


David has been to busy eating crow these days to do much of that. I just
picked up the March Monitoring times and the word from Ken Reitz who was
there at the CES show shares my opinion of the state HD semiconductor
development. He things Samsung will have next generation HD chips next
fall at the earliest so any new radio set developments are moved into
2009. In ant event the outlook for portable HD radios is poor due to
power and antenna requirements.


Telamon,

In reality the 'portable' HD-Radio will be part of the Third Wave
of HD-Radio deployment and adoption.

The First Wave - Presently there are first and second
generation HD-Radios for the Home; and these Home
HD-Radios do not have Power as an identifiable issue :
Because they run-off of the House's AC Power {Mains}.

The Second Wave - The "Big Advancement" toward the
Earliy Adoption of HD-Radio will come in the placement
of HD-Radios in Cars and Trucks. Again like in the Home
Power is not and identifiable issue with HD-Radio in the
Car since the HD-Radio runs-off the Car's self-charging
12 Volt Systems.


SNIP

I would like to address this "2 wave" if you don't mind. Another
individual tried to pass this off as second generation but I don't see
it that way. Here you make the argument that the same radio in placed in
cars and trucks constitutes a second wave.

I don't see it that way. For me the change would have to be much larger
than sticking the same thing in a mobile unit. This kind of change looks
like 1.0 to 1.1 instead of 1.0 to 2.0 and is minor at best. The change
is too small to warrant a 1 to 2. For a 1 to 2 change it would have to
have a real impact on how people use it or how its use would affects the
user. That would be looking at it from the user perspective.

From the generational perspective an example would be tube to discrete
solid state to integrated circuits would be 2 generations. Here HD has
not changed either so where does the "2nd wave" or "2nd generation" come
from? Beats me.

No real impact on the user or change in implementation means wave or
generation 1.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF March 7th 08 12:29 PM

NP2G : What a Waste-of-Bandwidth
 
On Mar 1, 12:50*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*RHF wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:46*am, m II wrote:
*.
NP2G : What a Waste-of-Bandwidth
*.
Mike - What a Waste-of-Bandwidth ~ RHF
*.

- - NP2G = Newsgroup Ping-Pong Game
- - .
-
- So what do you call it when a Trolling moron like you
- uses up bandwidth?
-
- You are a waste of time.
-
- If you lived around me I would just shun you as everyone
- around you does now.
-
- It's pretty clear none has anything to do with you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Telamon,

That is why I had to "Thank You" for the 33% increase
in my Newsgroup Readership during the-Height-of your
Clueless Campaign against me. It was exciting :o)

as clueless as ever ~ RHF

RHF March 7th 08 12:44 PM

IBOC : Snippets from an HD-Radio Reporter...
 
On Mar 6, 6:42*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





*RHF wrote:
On Mar 5, 6:27*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,
*D Peter Maus wrote:


dxAce wrote:


IBOCcrock wrote:


Got these responses yesterday from a newpaper reporter in Florida, for
an article they just ran on HD Radio:


******,


Glad to peruse your blog. *Thanks for the technical lesson. *I
appreciate it. HD Radio smelled of smoke and mirrors when I first
began researching the article, and I didn't change my mind when I
finished writing it. *I have XM satellite and it is more than I need,
AND I enjoy the choices. Perhaps HD stands for Humpty-Dumpty; who
knows? In the long run, market always has a way of "rewarding" such
chicanery.


It seems as though the FCC is turning a deaf ear to the interference
problem. *Of course, that's not so rare for Cabinet-level agencies. Be
well, and keep up the valuable service you've been doing, and thank
you for the feedback. *My editor was very happy with the article for
helping her sort out the bull**** from the bourbon.


Or, in the case of 'Eduardo', it would be a question of separating the
bull****
from the tequila.


* *I've never been convinced that what he posts here is actually a
bone-deep belief. Lately, I've been more aware of the sense that he's as
much trying to convince himself of the veracity of his positions as he
is trying to convince us.


* *As much as I'd like to believe IBOCCrock's position that HD is DOA,
it's guys like David, and the general level of executive/manglement I've
worked with at Radio, who will continue to milk/morph/tweak/tune HD
until it either dies a staggering and ignominious death, or it finally
becomes viable, though in a form likely not yet realized. It's not going
to simply vanish. Not only two years out with as much as has been
invested. Spectacular failures usually take a decade to gestate.


* *Till then, the shills will continue to hawk, demean, and argue.


* *And contrary to their own assertions, they neither hear, nor will
listen to anything that conflicts their chosen stance.


David has been to busy eating crow these days to do much of that. I just
picked up the March Monitoring times and the word from Ken Reitz who was
there at the CES show shares my opinion of the state HD semiconductor
development. He things Samsung will have next generation HD chips next
fall at the earliest so any new radio set developments are moved into
2009. In ant event the outlook for portable HD radios is poor due to
power and antenna requirements.


Telamon,


In reality the 'portable' HD-Radio will be part of the Third Wave
of HD-Radio deployment and adoption.


The First Wave - Presently there are first and second
generation HD-Radios for the Home; and these Home
HD-Radios do not have Power as an identifiable issue :
Because they run-off of the House's AC Power {Mains}.


The Second Wave - The "Big Advancement" toward the
Earliy Adoption of HD-Radio will come in the placement
of HD-Radios in Cars and Trucks. *Again like in the Home
Power is not and identifiable issue with HD-Radio in the
Car since the HD-Radio runs-off the Car's self-charging
12 Volt Systems.


SNIP

I would like to address this "2 wave" if you don't mind. Another
individual tried to pass this off as second generation but I don't see
it that way. Here you make the argument that the same radio in placed in
cars and trucks constitutes a second wave.

I don't see it that way. For me the change would have to be much larger
than sticking the same thing in a mobile unit. This kind of change looks
like 1.0 to 1.1 instead of 1.0 to 2.0 and is minor at best. The change
is too small to warrant a 1 to 2. For a 1 to 2 change it would have to
have a real impact on how people use it or how its use would affects the
user. That would be looking at it from the user perspective.

From the generational perspective an example would be tube to discrete
solid state to integrated circuits would be 2 generations. Here HD has
not changed either so where does the "2nd wave" or "2nd generation" come
from? Beats me.

No real impact on the user or change in implementation means wave or
generation 1.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Telamon,

You are clearly Thinking along Technology Change Lines
and that is well and good.

While I am simply Thinking along The Line of Social Change :
Experiance to Knowledge to Acceptance to Adaptation plus
Acquisition and Intergration of a Technology by an Individual
as a Member of a Society : Reflecting That Society.

Micro and Macro Social Change in the Use of a Technology
Old-to-New by a Society.

managing change the continuous process
of individual and societal growth ~ RHF

Telamon March 9th 08 06:58 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 1, 12:50*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*RHF wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:46*am, m II wrote:
*.
NP2G : What a Waste-of-Bandwidth
*.
Mike - What a Waste-of-Bandwidth ~ RHF
*.

- - NP2G = Newsgroup Ping-Pong Game
- - .
-
- So what do you call it when a Trolling moron like you
- uses up bandwidth?
-
- You are a waste of time.
-
- If you lived around me I would just shun you as everyone
- around you does now.
-
- It's pretty clear none has anything to do with you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Telamon,

That is why I had to "Thank You" for the 33% increase
in my Newsgroup Readership during the-Height-of your
Clueless Campaign against me. It was exciting :o)

as clueless as ever ~ RHF
.


Yes you are a retard. You should have answered this 7 days ago.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 11th 08 01:34 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote [about RHF]:

Yes you are a retard. You should have answered this 7 days ago.


He "should" have answered this 7 days ago?

Is that an order?

Says who?

YOU? The Supreme Commander of the news group?

He can answer if (or when) he pleases.

(I guess it's that danged ego of yours is acting up again...) :-(


Well, Billy boy my post was from a week ago and retard posts here every
day. Now get lost bozo.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 11th 08 01:39 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 8, 10:58*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





*RHF wrote:
On Mar 1, 12:50*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,


*RHF wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:46*am, m II wrote:
*.
NP2G : What a Waste-of-Bandwidth
*.
Mike - What a Waste-of-Bandwidth ~ RHF
*.
- - NP2G = Newsgroup Ping-Pong Game
- - .
-
- So what do you call it when a Trolling moron like you
- uses up bandwidth?
-
- You are a waste of time.
-
- If you lived around me I would just shun you as everyone
- around you does now.
-
- It's pretty clear none has anything to do with you.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California


- - Telamon,
- -
- - That is why I had to "Thank You" for the 33% increase
- - in my Newsgroup Readership during the-Height-of your
- - Clueless Campaign against me. *It was exciting :o)
- -
- - as clueless as ever ~ RHF
- - *.
-
- Yes you are a retard. You should have answered this 7 days ago.
-

Telamon,

If as you say I am a 'retard' and you "Choose"
to play a Newsgroup Ping-Pong Game with me.
.


No. I say you are a retard and I would prefer you harass some other news
group.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF March 11th 08 10:56 AM

PONG : NPPG : What a Waste-of-Bandwidth
 
On Mar 10, 6:34*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote [about RHF]:


Yes you are a retard. You should have answered this 7 days ago.


He "should" have answered this 7 days ago?


Is that an order?


Says who?


YOU? The Supreme Commander of the news group?


He can answer if (or when) he pleases.


(I guess it's that danged ego of yours is acting up again...) * :-(

-
- Well, Billy boy my post was from a week ago
- and retard posts here every day.
-
- Now get lost bozo.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Hello Everone,

For any Bozo's out here who are having trouble "Getting Lost".

Please follow the trail of Bread Crumbs that Telamon leaves
behind him as he Takes-a-Hike through the Bird Sanctuary :o)

the devil made me do it ~ RHF
http://rev-ed.blogspot.com/2005/04/f...ade-me-do.html

Telamon March 12th 08 01:14 AM

Snippets from an HD Radio reporter...
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 10, 6:34*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote [about RHF]:


Yes you are a retard. You should have answered this 7 days ago.


He "should" have answered this 7 days ago?


Is that an order?


Says who?


YOU? The Supreme Commander of the news group?


He can answer if (or when) he pleases.


(I guess it's that danged ego of yours is acting up again...) * :-(

-
- Well, Billy boy my post was from a week ago
- and retard posts here every day.
-
- Now get lost bozo.
-

Hello Everone,


Hi retard.

For any Bozo's out here who are having trouble "Getting Lost".

Please follow the trail of Bread Crumbs that Telamon leaves
behind him as he Takes-a-Hike through the Bird Sanctuary :o)


Oh, I see what happened here. I used the word bozo and naturally you
thought I was speaking of you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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