I think I have found the one I like!
 

Greetings Hacienda de Ville..

As perceived, the Satellit 750 is considered more of a tabletop
model than a portable. Consider that many of the portables have
become sophisticated enough now days to include many all the
features of the tabletop models. However, in the end, it will be
up to you to decide which of those features are important to you.
Another source to consider for a review is Passport to Worldband
Radio. Check out your local library first to see if they've got a
recent copy before purchasing. They have a section where they
critically review most major lines of shortwave radios, tabletop
and portables.

While this is a Chinese design imported by Eton for the American
market, DO be aware that detailed schematics or especially a
service manual will not be made available to the public for this
radio. In order to get any service you will have to send this
radio in to Eton for repair. After your warranty period, that
could be rather expensive for a relatively simple item.

Why mention this? Other larger manufacturers, especially out of
Japan such as ICOM, Kenwood, Yaesu compose service manuals that
have schematics, alignment procedures and parts listings. This
allows the owner to simply call and order the exact OEM part in
the event that anything becomes defective, especially over time.
While this is usually not needed initially, if the radio is kept
for a long period of time, it's a very nice piece of
documentation to have.

Examples of what I'm referring to are available at such sites as
http://www.mods.dk/ . This site not only has owner's manuals but
the actual service manuals for those technically enough inclined
to maintain their radios over the years. Of course, going though
the manufacturers listed above, will provide the actual printed
(or CD ROMs) service manual that includes the latest
information - at a nominal fee. Much easier to chase the highways
and bi-ways of the electrons with a schematic than not having one
AND not even having the option to get one.

Something at least to be aware of and consider..

Cheers,
Mr. Mentor



"Hacienda de Ville" wrote
in message ...
|I think I have found a radio I could love. Apparently, it is not
going
| to be released until June of this year. It costs $300 and my
IRA
| Stimulus check will pay for it. Please check out the
information
| provided and let me know what you think. Also, check out the
| dimensions as it appears to really be portable. Here are a
number of
| links to it and I look forward to your input:
|
| http://www.etoncorp.com/upload/conte...tellite750.pdf
|
| http://www.etoncorp.com/pressrelease/?p_NewsId=381436
|
|
http://www.amazon.com/Grundig-Satell.../dp/B0014T7W8Y
|
|
http://gizmodo.com/341112/grundig-et...-yes-shortwave
|
| http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/7256
|
| The size is slightly bigger than I thought. Do you still think
this
| will be easy enough to take to parks or where ever and listen
to or is
| it more of a tabletop?
|
| Thank you,
| Haci
|

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In article ,
"dBc" wrote:

Greetings Hacienda de Ville..

As perceived, the Satellit 750 is considered more of a tabletop
model than a portable. Consider that many of the portables have
become sophisticated enough now days to include many all the
features of the tabletop models. However, in the end, it will be
up to you to decide which of those features are important to you.
Another source to consider for a review is Passport to Worldband
Radio. Check out your local library first to see if they've got a
recent copy before purchasing. They have a section where they
critically review most major lines of shortwave radios, tabletop
and portables.

While this is a Chinese design imported by Eton for the American
market, DO be aware that detailed schematics or especially a
service manual will not be made available to the public for this
radio. In order to get any service you will have to send this
radio in to Eton for repair. After your warranty period, that
could be rather expensive for a relatively simple item.

Why mention this? Other larger manufacturers, especially out of
Japan such as ICOM, Kenwood, Yaesu compose service manuals that
have schematics, alignment procedures and parts listings. This
allows the owner to simply call and order the exact OEM part in
the event that anything becomes defective, especially over time.
While this is usually not needed initially, if the radio is kept
for a long period of time, it's a very nice piece of
documentation to have.

SNIP

You are referring to manufactures of HAM equipment not a consumer radio.
Hammies are supposed to be a technical sort that can fix their equipment
and the general public is not expected to do that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I think I have found the one I like!
 

Greetings Telamon..

Regarding:
"You are referring to manufactures of HAM equipment not a
consumer radio. Hammies are supposed to be a technical sort that
can fix their equipment and the general public is not expected to
do that."

Negative, I'm not referring to amateur transceivers as you
probably meant. Those manufactures also put out shortwave
receivers. Consider looking at the lines both in the past and
current offerings..

I have no idea what you mean as "Hammies." The service is the
amateur radio service. Once licensed, one becomes a radio
amateur. "Ham Radio" is a term used to identify the radio
amateurs operation as 'hamming it up' on the air. Regardless, you
won't see it defined as such at the federal level. In fact, this
is the first time I've come across the term "Hammies" in over 33
years of being licensed. I'm laughing at that as I write this..

The point was to consider a receiver where schematics are made
available to the public at large. Instead of potentially, at a
later time, having no reference resources to affect repair,
consider this up front. Would you purchase a new car where you
could not buy parts over the counter now or ever in the future?
Effectively, your only resource was to take it to the dealer for
repair. While some may sure, others would like to know such
things up front prior to making a decision - simple as that.

Cheers,
Mr. Mentor



"Telamon" wrote in
message
...
| In article ,
| "dBc" wrote:
|
| Greetings Hacienda de Ville..
|
| As perceived, the Satellit 750 is considered more of a
tabletop
| model than a portable. Consider that many of the portables
have
| become sophisticated enough now days to include many all the
| features of the tabletop models. However, in the end, it will
be
| up to you to decide which of those features are important to
you.
| Another source to consider for a review is Passport to
Worldband
| Radio. Check out your local library first to see if they've
got a
| recent copy before purchasing. They have a section where they
| critically review most major lines of shortwave radios,
tabletop
| and portables.
|
| While this is a Chinese design imported by Eton for the
American
| market, DO be aware that detailed schematics or especially a
| service manual will not be made available to the public for
this
| radio. In order to get any service you will have to send this
| radio in to Eton for repair. After your warranty period, that
| could be rather expensive for a relatively simple item.
|
| Why mention this? Other larger manufacturers, especially out
of
| Japan such as ICOM, Kenwood, Yaesu compose service manuals
that
| have schematics, alignment procedures and parts listings.
This
| allows the owner to simply call and order the exact OEM part
in
| the event that anything becomes defective, especially over
time.
| While this is usually not needed initially, if the radio is
kept
| for a long period of time, it's a very nice piece of
| documentation to have.
|
| SNIP
|
| You are referring to manufactures of HAM equipment not a
consumer radio.
| Hammies are supposed to be a technical sort that can fix their
equipment
| and the general public is not expected to do that.
|
| --
| Telamon
| Ventura, California

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dBc wrote:

snip
I have no idea what you mean as "Hammies." The service is the
amateur radio service. Once licensed, one becomes a radio
amateur. "Ham Radio" is a term used to identify the radio
amateurs operation as 'hamming it up' on the air.

Nota Bene:

Theories on origin of term 'HAM':
http://www.ac6v.com/73.htm#hamlid
http://www.arrl.org/whyham.html

Michael

I think I have found the one I like!
 

I had never heard of hammies either, untill Telamon said hammies.Makes
me think of pork chops running around.
cuhulin

Speaking of Hams and Hammies . . . ? Where Did The Word "Ham" ComeFrom -wrt- Amateur Radio Operators ?
 

On Apr 29, 7:20*am, wrote:
-
- I had never heard of hammies either,
- untill Telamon said hammies.
- Makes me think of pork chops running around.
- cuhulin

Cuhulin,

Speaking of Hams and Hammies . . .
? Where Did The Word "Ham" Come From
-wrt- Amateur Radio Operators ?

Hammies with Scrammies
The $2.99 Breakfast Special
now being served at Denny's ;-}

~ RHF

Speaking of Hams and Hammies . . . ? Where Did The Word"Ham" C...
 

My Grandpappy always called me Hambone.I received a scam spam scammie
email today from,,,
Kaboom.Never scrub your toilet again!

Sheesh, as if those Billy Mays tv commercials aren't bad enough, now I
am getting them via emails too.
cuhulin

I think I have found the one I like!
 

Greetings Telamon..

Regarding:
"It was meant as a divisive description of amateurs. Most
amateurs I have come across are not much more than equipment
operators. Some appear to be good operators but do not seem to
exhibit any depth beyond that."

I believe this may be called appliance operator syndrome. With a
move away from concentrating on understand fundamental
electronics and circuits at the component level and their
operation, and not testing for such on the current amateur exams,
this results in the above syndrome. Result, is it any wonder that
a tsunami of technical design work is now being done overseas, OR
is moving overseas, where the science is considered/taught more
intensely at a younger age and school level.

"If you like to fix your own electronics it makes sense but if
you do not it doesn't make any difference. I would suspect for
most people it makes no difference."

I would like to at least believe that the regular newsgroup crowd
here are of a more technical nature. Perhaps, they are
[primarily] nothing more than appliance operators - but I would
like to believe otherwise. As mentioned in another thread here,
the gentleman in South Africa has recently purchased a IC-7700
that sits along side his IC-756 PRO III. Apparently, he primarily
listens (ONLY) to LF and MW. No transmitting - amazing!

One thing is for certain, there is little doubt, that some of the
folks here have more of a budget than I do with my modest set up.

Cheers,
Mr. Mentor



"Telamon" wrote in
message
...
| In article ,
| "dBc" wrote:
|
| Greetings Telamon..
|
| Regarding:
| "You are referring to manufactures of HAM equipment not a
| consumer radio. Hammies are supposed to be a technical sort
that
| can fix their equipment and the general public is not
expected to
| do that."
|
| Negative, I'm not referring to amateur transceivers as you
| probably meant. Those manufactures also put out shortwave
| receivers. Consider looking at the lines both in the past and
| current offerings..
|
| Yes, but as you pointed out they do make amateur equipment so
they are
| predisposed to also make their SW radios more serviceable.
|
| I have no idea what you mean as "Hammies." The service is the
| amateur radio service. Once licensed, one becomes a radio
| amateur. "Ham Radio" is a term used to identify the radio
| amateurs operation as 'hamming it up' on the air. Regardless,
you
| won't see it defined as such at the federal level. In fact,
this
| is the first time I've come across the term "Hammies" in over
33
| years of being licensed. I'm laughing at that as I write
this..
|
| It was meant as a divisive description of amateurs. Most
amateurs I have
| come across are not much more than equipment operators. Some
appear to
| be good operators but do not seem to exhibit any depth beyond
that.
|
| The point was to consider a receiver where schematics are
made
| available to the public at large. Instead of potentially, at
a
| later time, having no reference resources to affect repair,
| consider this up front. Would you purchase a new car where
you
| could not buy parts over the counter now or ever in the
future?
| Effectively, your only resource was to take it to the dealer
for
| repair. While some may sure, others would like to know such
| things up front prior to making a decision - simple as that.
|
| If you like to fix your own electronics it makes sense but if
you do not
| it doesn't make any difference. I would suspect for most people
it makes
| no difference.
|
| --
| Telamon
| Ventura, California

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Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two
links do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site, I wouldn't
take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers,
Mr. Mentor



"msg" wrote in message
news:V9ydndy-pICUgorVnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@cpinternet...
| dBc wrote:
|
| snip
| I have no idea what you mean as "Hammies." The service is the
| amateur radio service. Once licensed, one becomes a radio
| amateur. "Ham Radio" is a term used to identify the radio
| amateurs operation as 'hamming it up' on the air.
|
| Nota Bene:
|
| Theories on origin of term 'HAM':
| http://www.ac6v.com/73.htm#hamlid
| http://www.arrl.org/whyham.html
|
| Michael

I think I have found the one I like!
 

dBc wrote:
Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two links
do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

The 'good reason' may be that the OP doesn't seem to have a very good
grasp of the English language -- and sometimes he gets a little, shall
we say, creative; "raw" Amtor, "hammies" and a perpetual
misunderstanding of "to" vs. "too".

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site,

This should be past tense, as AC6V has gone to the Big Hamfest
In the Sky. (I believe that a relative is currently maintaining the web
site).

I wouldn't take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

True...because although there are -many- theories as to the origin of
the term 'ham', nothing has been proven to be definitive.

I think I have found the one I like!
 

In article ,
"dBc" wrote:

Greetings Telamon..

Regarding:
"It was meant as a divisive description of amateurs. Most
amateurs I have come across are not much more than equipment
operators. Some appear to be good operators but do not seem to
exhibit any depth beyond that."

I believe this may be called appliance operator syndrome. With a
move away from concentrating on understand fundamental
electronics and circuits at the component level and their
operation, and not testing for such on the current amateur exams,
this results in the above syndrome. Result, is it any wonder that
a tsunami of technical design work is now being done overseas, OR
is moving overseas, where the science is considered/taught more
intensely at a younger age and school level.

This is exactly my thoughts on the subject. Amateur radio started out
with very little equipment made for it and the amateur had to build it
himself. The amateur service will only improve if the government
requires more technical understanding of the hobby since you can just go
out and buy everything you need to get on the air.

"If you like to fix your own electronics it makes sense but if
you do not it doesn't make any difference. I would suspect for
most people it makes no difference."

I would like to at least believe that the regular newsgroup crowd
here are of a more technical nature. Perhaps, they are
[primarily] nothing more than appliance operators - but I would
like to believe otherwise.

I'm sure they are no more technical that the people in the ham news
groups. At least that is the way it looked to me when I used to read
groups such as rec.radio.amateur.antenna. If you ever fell the need to
go insane go read that news group. I guarantee you will be muttering at
the monitor. You can read threads hundreds of posts long about electrons
sloshing back and forth in a coax due to some amount of VSWR on one end.

As mentioned in another thread here, the gentleman in South Africa
has recently purchased a IC-7700 that sits along side his IC-756 PRO
III. Apparently, he primarily listens (ONLY) to LF and MW. No
transmitting - amazing!

Yeah, he wants to use the digitally sharp and narrow filters to listen
to AM broadcasts in SSB mode so he can DX the AMBCB band. I'll stick
with SW receivers.

One thing is for certain, there is little doubt, that some of the
folks here have more of a budget than I do with my modest set up.

Most of the people I read in this news group appear to have portables
that cost $100 to $500. Others own boatanchors and a few have spent many
thousands of dollars on high end receivers and there are a few
individuals that hang around for no apparent reason generating
continuous streams of garbage posts.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I think I have found the one I like!
 

In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

dBc wrote:
Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two links
do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

The 'good reason' may be that the OP doesn't seem to have a very good
grasp of the English language -- and sometimes he gets a little, shall
we say, creative; "raw" Amtor, "hammies" and a perpetual
misunderstanding of "to" vs. "too".

You are just an idiot. Your posting are proof of that. The government
should pull your license for your demonstrated ignorance.

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site,

This should be past tense, as AC6V has gone to the Big Hamfest
In the Sky. (I believe that a relative is currently maintaining the web
site).

I would not worry about this as you will be going the other way when you
die.

I wouldn't take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

True...because although there are -many- theories as to the origin of
the term 'ham', nothing has been proven to be definitive.

I have empirical evidence that you are an idiot, which seems pretty
definitive.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

PONG : Telamon - I Have Empirical Evidence That You Are An Idiot,Which Seems Pretty Definitive.
 

On May 1, 7:38*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Billy Burpelson wrote:

dBc wrote:
Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two links
do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

The 'good reason' may be that the OP doesn't seem to have a very good
grasp of the English language -- and sometimes he gets a little, shall
we say, creative; "raw" Amtor, "hammies" and a perpetual
misunderstanding of "to" vs. "too".

You are just an idiot. Your posting are proof of that. The government
should pull your license for your demonstrated ignorance.

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site,

This should be past tense, as AC6V has gone to the Big Hamfest
In the Sky. (I believe that a relative is currently maintaining the web
site).

I would not worry about this as you will be going the other way when you
die.

I wouldn't take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

True...because although there are -many- theories as to the origin of
the term 'ham', nothing has been proven to be definitive.

- I have empirical evidence that you are an idiot,
- which seems pretty definitive.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

PONG : Telamon - I Have Empirical Evidence That You Are An Idiot,
Which Seems Pretty Definitive.

teli - what you post says a lot about you ~ RHF

I think I have found the one I like!
 

In article
,
RHF wrote:

On May 1, 7:38*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Billy Burpelson wrote:

dBc wrote:
Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two links
do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

The 'good reason' may be that the OP doesn't seem to have a very good
grasp of the English language -- and sometimes he gets a little, shall
we say, creative; "raw" Amtor, "hammies" and a perpetual
misunderstanding of "to" vs. "too".

You are just an idiot. Your posting are proof of that. The government
should pull your license for your demonstrated ignorance.

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site,

This should be past tense, as AC6V has gone to the Big Hamfest
In the Sky. (I believe that a relative is currently maintaining the web
site).

I would not worry about this as you will be going the other way when you
die.

I wouldn't take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

True...because although there are -many- theories as to the origin of
the term 'ham', nothing has been proven to be definitive.

- I have empirical evidence that you are an idiot,
- which seems pretty definitive.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

PONG : Telamon - I Have Empirical Evidence That You Are An Idiot,
Which Seems Pretty Definitive.

teli - what you post says a lot about you ~ RHF
SNIP

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard
like you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I think I have found the one I like!
 

Telamon wrote:

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard
like you.

If you aren't a retard like him, are you a retard like this guy?


Steve Lare's LATEST:
===============
Hey, Chink Boy, I got a real Rolex, still ticking after 33 years.. shove
it up your slant eyed ass.
===============



Why do you like and approve of that attitude? You attack RHF for his
antenna posts, yet racist crap is just fine with you. Wake up.




mike



And how is our news group retard doing this fine evening?

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In article xGGSj.6$KB3.5@edtnps91, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard
like you.

If you aren't a retard like him, are you a retard like this guy?

No, I'm a program listener and DxAce is a DX'er.

Steve Lare's LATEST:
===============
Hey, Chink Boy, I got a real Rolex, still ticking after 33 years.. shove
it up your slant eyed ass.
===============

My issue is not a racial one. My issue is about a disruptive asshole.

Why do you like and approve of that attitude? You attack RHF for his
antenna posts, yet racist crap is just fine with you. Wake up.

1. Because the news group retard posts incorrect information.

2. Because even after I correct the news group retard he still continues
to repost the same incorrect information.

3. Because the news group retard can not defend his incorrect
information.

4. The information news group retard posts that is good is other peoples
work, which sometimes I and others have some problems with and because
the news group retard provides links to it those people (the authors)
are not posting here to defend their information on their web pages.
Generally that is a discussion ender.

5. In the rare event that news group retard actually tries to post
technical information in his own words the news group retard generally
get the ideas of the original author wrong.

6. The news group retard posts are nearly indecipherable as a
consequence of his unique predilections. Any post the news group retard
generates factually correct or not looks like a retard wrote it.

7. The news group retard posts crap (incorrect information) in nearly
any antenna or radio related thread. Another discussion ender occurs
should people in that thread respond to him causing thread along with
his posts to be a confusing mishmash.

8. The news group retard is an asshole.

If you want more reasons let me know.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I think I have found the one I like!
 

Telamon wrote:

If you want more reasons let me know.


Do you approve of the racial slurs made by Steve Lare?





mike

I think I have found the one I like!
 

In article ABTSj.113$Yp.20@edtnps92, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:

If you want more reasons let me know.


Do you approve of the racial slurs made by Steve Lare?

What do you think?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I think I have found the one I like!
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article
,
RHF wrote:

PONG : Telamon - I Have Empirical Evidence That You Are An Idiot,
Which Seems Pretty Definitive.

teli - what you post says a lot about you ~ RHF

SNIP

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard...

Then why are you posting to alt.idiots?